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Dienekes
03-25-17, 22:45
Saw this earlier today. I am probably out of line, as I frequently tend to be, but WTF is wrong with us for putting little kids in the "care" of "stone-faced" people like this?

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/03/23/il-preschooler-suspended-bringing-spent-shell-casing-school

If you ever wondered what kind of people would cheerfully snuff deplorables in pursuit of power, you will find them in the ranks of "educators". Baby steps. Worked for Uncle Ho, Pol Pot, and God knows how many other mediocrities aspiring to reshape their charges.

26 Inf
03-25-17, 22:49
Shoot you can use a shell case as a whistle, any kid knows that, right?

Idiots. Looking for a scene to make.

Arik
03-25-17, 23:05
And they notified child services

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Jellybean
03-25-17, 23:12
I mean, kids have gotten suspended for bubble guns and biting a toaster pastry vaguely into the shape of a gun (and they'll probably try to ban the letter "L" next cuz' it kind of looks like a gun... :laugh: ), and then there were the derps that called the bomb squad because they found some old shotgun shells under their house, so... yeah, color me not even remotely surprised.
Been going on for a long time now....


And they notified child services

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Of course!
People like the caring educational specialists in the article will call those ****ers over literally anything they can twist into "endangering the child".... :rolleyes:

usmcvet
03-25-17, 23:27
Freaking Fools!

Firefly
03-25-17, 23:55
And I would have said they can cram their paper and not get a dime from me anymore.

This is why someone needs to be able to stay home with young kids.

I am no parent but the idea of dropping my kid off with a bunch of other weirdoes' kids to be tended to by some minimum wage woman doesn't appeal to me.

If you flip your shit over an inert, hollow piece of brass then you are automatically disqualified from teaching anyone anything.

This is why I detest the idea of kindergarten. Most of it is teaching kids to follow orders. Screw all that.

Every year of public school was same shit, different assholes. I beheld the wonder of teen pregnancy, STD, gang activity, drugs everywhere, and teachers who hid out. You were rewarded only if you played sports and any scholastic pursuits dashed. I recall trying to start a chess club and a book club at a 95% black school as a teen. I was soundly laughed out of the office.

Meh If I knew then what I know now I would have dropped out of school, got my GED, and tried to get a jumpstart on college.

People forget how free they are. I don't have to socialize with anybody.

Teenybopper shows pf the 90s painted these uppity images of kids dressing well and interacting on a civil and comitable level.

NEWP.

tl;dr to quote Rick Sanchez "School is not a place for smart people"

Bulletdog
03-25-17, 23:59
Time for the parents to suspend those administrators for stupidity. 7 days without pay for over reacting to a harmless object should get the point across.

AKDoug
03-26-17, 00:37
Time for the parents to suspend those administrators for stupidity. 7 days without pay for over reacting to a harmless object should get the point across.

It was a private pre-school. Vote with your money and leave.

OH58D
03-26-17, 00:41
I guess I grew up in a violent period in history? Possessing a little piece of empty cylindrical brass was no big deal. When I was around 6 or 7, we used to throw rocks on the play ground at school. This part of the southwest has more rocks than grass on the school yards. When I was 15 I got into a fight with another kid a year older than me. I took off my leather belt with my rodeo buckle on it and proceeded to hit this older and larger kid numerous times with the buckle end as I used the belt like a whip. Then there was electronics class and a Cholo looking dude named Raoul. He put his hand on me one too many times and I stabbed him in the top of his hand with a Bic ball point pen. I got suspended for 1 day and Raoul went to the hospital.... it was kind of bloody....:smile:

Society these days reminds me of H.G. Well's "The Time Machine" and this futuristic group of humans called Eloi. They had the ability to fight bred out of them. I tend to think a certain level of violence in all of us makes us more equipped to survive the real world, and the real world isn't getting any friendlier, even in the US where the radial Left is resorting to aggressive acts more frequently.

SteyrAUG
03-26-17, 01:58
I was eight years old when I got my first REAL GUN, a WWI 9mm German Luger. I was in the 4th grade, it happened because I attended a friends birthday party and he had his grandfathers Luger and showed it off to the kids in the class who came to his party. Made enough of an impression on me that I wouldn't shut up about it so my father bought me one for Christmas that year.

The following year I would get my second handgun, a Ruger Security Six .357 magnum. I was 10 years old before I actually got my first BB gun, and the only reason I got that was so I could practice shooting in the yard.

But as a 8 and 9 year old kid I had both handguns in my possession, in my room along with ammo all under my control. I spent a lot of time around adult shooters and they kept a close eye on me and wouldn't hesitate to stop me or correct me if I was about to do something wrong or potentially dangerous with respect to gun safety.

I am so thankful I grew up when I did and how I did. When I was a kid you could deliberately take a spent .22 casing to school for "show and tell" and explain to everyone what it was and how you went shooting with your grandfather the weekend before. I remember taking some interesting things to 8th grade history class when we got to WWII including a Japanese sword (which I brought to school on the bus), a "training" pineapple grenade which was probably more 1970s vintage than WWII vintage and some similar items. This was at the request of my teacher when I told him "Hey, I've got a bunch of WWII stuff."

His only caveats were "no guns" since he knew I owned a few and I had to leave everything with him during the day. He even asked my permission to show the items to his other classes if he promised to make sure nobody was allowed to pick things up and I said no problem, they could even handle anything except the sword.

I'm kind of glad I don't have kids, just because I would constantly be telling teachers, schools and child protective services to F off and keep their bullshit away from my kid.

SteyrAUG
03-26-17, 02:03
It was a private pre-school. Vote with your money and leave.


Even the parents are part of the problem, they buy in to the notion that "had they know" they would never have let their kid bring a spent .22 casing to school. They buy into bullshit like a tiny brass tube is inherently dangerous because it is associated with a gun and once housed gunpowder and a bullet even if it is now just an empty brass tube.

The "teaching moment' here would have been explaining to the morons at the school that a empty brass tube is that and nothing more. It's not a shotgun shell, it's not ammunition, it's not dangerous. But that seems lost on even the parents so I say they should suck up the suspension if they are going to buy into the notion that an empty brass tube is somehow dangerous.

Moose-Knuckle
03-26-17, 05:55
They go full retard over an empty rimfire case when in the real world . . .



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2sANH-A-8U

Mjolnir
03-26-17, 09:57
Desperation and little true concern for that child. Of course, the adults are cerebral abbreviates who are true believers of a crazy concept so.... Here we are.

Poor child...


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MegademiC
03-26-17, 10:36
I'm waiting for girls wearing nylon stocking to be expelled, because glocKS are nylon.

As steyr said, parents are the problem. What rule did the child violate? Press the issue, don't back down. Don't give in to the premise that weapons are bad and don't belong in schools. They belong EVERYWHERE and anyone who doest get that lacks basic reasoning skills and is not fit to teach.

GH41
03-26-17, 13:26
This one happened close to me 16 freaking years ago! http://lawandliberty.org/eagle.htm

Firefly
03-26-17, 13:43
While not as interesting as Steyr's Show and Tell; I recall the day in grade school we got to see some Civil War re-enactors.

It was quite interesting. I was maybe 9 and these guys were maybe mid 20s but to me they were ancient.

They showed up in full Confederate guard and kit. One with a guidon of the Stainless banner and the other as a private.

And the guidon guy had a cavalry pistol on his left side and the other guy had his cap, a knife, powder, wadding, etc and a musket.

They told the historical relevance of the conflict, the hard life of an infantryman of the day, and everyone got to hold the rifle. Heavy, oiled, wood and iron.

Everybody was in awe because it went from words in a book and old drawn pictures to real life people.

It would be like someone showing up to school today in a WWI doughboy with a Krag and a 1917 revolver. In 50 more years, a guy showing up to school with a green sateen fatigues, SP1, 1911, Mitchell camo cover steel pot, and jungle boots.

And....people lose their shit over empty brass.

How far we have come.

SteyrAUG
03-26-17, 15:23
While not as interesting as Steyr's Show and Tell; I recall the day in grade school we got to see some Civil War re-enactors.

It was quite interesting. I was maybe 9 and these guys were maybe mid 20s but to me they were ancient.

They showed up in full Confederate guard and kit. One with a guidon of the Stainless banner and the other as a private.

And the guidon guy had a cavalry pistol on his left side and the other guy had his cap, a knife, powder, wadding, etc and a musket.

They told the historical relevance of the conflict, the hard life of an infantryman of the day, and everyone got to hold the rifle. Heavy, oiled, wood and iron.

Everybody was in awe because it went from words in a book and old drawn pictures to real life people.

It would be like someone showing up to school today in a WWI doughboy with a Krag and a 1917 revolver. In 50 more years, a guy showing up to school with a green sateen fatigues, SP1, 1911, Mitchell camo cover steel pot, and jungle boots.

And....people lose their shit over empty brass.

How far we have come.

We actually had some revolutionary reenactors come to our class one year. A female in period dress and a male with a flintlock. And they actually fired the flintlock (now powder in the pan) just so we could see the sparks to explain how the system worked.

When my brother was in high school he regularly went duck hunting after school with his friends so he had all his gear and a Remington 1100 in the trunk in the parking lot. The school principal heard him and his friends talking and asked to see the shotgun, so there is was in 1981, the principal of the school holding a shotgun in the parking lot because he was thinking of buying the same shotgun and wanted to see one in person.

When I went back to Iowa to finish high school I frequently had a couple ammo cans of .223 and a CAR-15 and HK-93 in the back of my Blazer because the school was half way to the range and was typically empty right after school. This would be 1983.

Another funny thing, people have always stolen stuff, but somehow cased rifle and even pickup rifle racks seemed to be somehow "off limits." There were always two or three pickup in the parking lot with visible shotguns or lever rifles in the rack and to the best of my knowledge nobody messed with them. Not sure you could do that anywhere today.

26 Inf
03-26-17, 16:17
As steyr said, parents are the problem. What rule did the child violate? Press the issue, don't back down.

As a parent not backing down caused my son to get expelled and me to home school him the second semester of his 7th grade year. It was delish. I'd do it again.

Buckaroo
03-26-17, 16:30
As a parent not backing down caused my son to get expelled and me to home school him the second semester of his 7th grade year. It was delish. I'd do it again.
Good for you! I assume a class in "gun safety" was part of the curriculum.

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Firefly
03-26-17, 16:38
As a parent not backing down caused my son to get expelled and me to home school him the second semester of his 7th grade year. It was delish. I'd do it again.

I would have flashed gang signs on my way out the door after knocking some shit off princies desk.

Dist. Expert 26
03-26-17, 16:45
Stupid BS like this is why I dread/can't wait for my son to start school. Granted, we live in a small mountain town but there's still bound to be a bleeding heart or two in the school system.

When I was in elementary school I was suspended twice for "weapons offenses". The first one involved a 1" long, plastic, GI Joe fighting knife. In the hand of said GI Joe. The second was talking about guns on the playground. I guess things haven't changed all that much in the last 10-15 years.

Moose-Knuckle
03-27-17, 04:00
While not as interesting as Steyr's Show and Tell; I recall the day in grade school we got to see some Civil War re-enactors.

My 7th grade year we had a history teacher who as a Civil War reenactor and kept a working canon in his class room.

It was one hell of a conversation piece!

Once a year he and some of his cohorts would put on a demonstration for the entire school.

Averageman
03-27-17, 13:04
So if you go to the range with Dad or Grandpa on Saturday and you pick up some brass you're now a criminal?
My Mother was more upset when it got loose in the washer or dryer and rattled while She did laundry.

Ned Christiansen
03-27-17, 16:59
A local school had a lockdown a couple years ago because a spent .22 was found in the hallway.

Pretty sure I know what happened.

It's Monday. Everybody drop what you're doing and look at the bottoms of your shoes / boots. How many have a spent case caught in the treads? (And if you find one, lock down the house and call 911!)