I want a T-shirt, are they available???

[Seth Harness]

Can "M4carbine.net" T-shirts be bought anywhere??? That is if there is such a thing.
Please excuse if this is a redundent question or request, but I dont think I've seen anything around on this topic.

...But hey, sometimes I miss things that are in front of my face too.

Thanks,
Seth H.

[Jay Cunningham]

There are hats...

http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=HAT-M4&reference=/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi%3Fsearch%3Daction%26keywords%3Dhat%26searchstart%3D0%26template%3DPDGCommTemplates/FullNav/SearchResult.html

[Seth Harness]

There are hats...

http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=HAT-M4&reference=/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi%3Fsearch%3Daction%26keywords%3Dhat%26searchstart%3D0%26template%3DPDGCommTemplates/FullNav/SearchResult.html


Are you guys thinking of getting shirts or is that a negative.

[twodollarbill]

Are you guys thinking of getting shirts or is that a negative.
The M4Carbine hats that Grant did...one size fits all
I think Grant would have a hard time keeping 3X , 4X, and 5X sizes in stock :D

[ToddG]

It's a simple matter of setting up the logo (free of charge) and doing it through cafepress.com. You don't make nearly as much profit but you can score a couple dollars every time someone makes a purchase and there is zero cost: no overhead, no setup charges, no inventory to maintain.

[5POINT56]

It's a simple matter of setting up the logo (free of charge) and doing it through cafepress.com. You don't make nearly as much profit but you can score a couple dollars every time someone makes a purchase and there is zero cost: no overhead, no setup charges, no inventory to maintain.

www.zazzle.com

I like Zazzle a lot better than Cafe Press. Same kind of deal.

[C4IGrant]

There are no T-shirts at the moment.

If anyone wants to put a logo together, I would be happy to look at it.


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[sl4mdaddy]

There are hats...

http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=HAT-M4&reference=/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi%3Fsearch%3Daction%26keywords%3Dhat%26searchstart%3D0%26template%3DPDGCommTemplates/FullNav/SearchResult.html

Damn...no yellow visors?

:D

[Seth Harness]

There are no T-shirts at the moment.

If anyone wants to put a logo together, I would be happy to look at it.


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Anybody know how to create a logo. Cuz I really want a T-shirt. :D

[RogerinTPA]

It's a great idea that's long over due. It's been kicked around a few times. We should have an online store to buy hats, shirts (T's and Polos), stickers, shooting bags, coffee mugs, etc... Maybe a design contest to develop logos and vote on them, is in order.

[RogerinTPA]

Anybody know how to create a logo. Cuz I really want a T-shirt. :D

Create your own or several, then post them so we can vote on it. I was thinking a OD Green T-shirt or Polo, with a yellow M4C as a breast patch and a gold M4Carbine.net on the back.

[Jay Cunningham]

https://www.m4carbine.net/picture.php?albumid=30&pictureid=128

[Seth Harness]

Create your own or several, then post them so we can vote on it. I was thinking a OD Green T-shirt or Polo, with a yellow M4C as a breast patch and a gold M4Carbine.net on the back.

Im down for whatever, I just want a T-shirt. I think a bunch of ideas to vote on would be a good idea. The shirts would surely sell, I know I'll buy a couple. Id love to get involved but I dont have any of the stuff it takes to come up with a logo.

[markm]

I did AR15.com shirts years back when the site was pretty good. I inadvertantly ripped of Ken Elmore's M4 carbine drawing. :eek: Oops!

I ripped it off of someone who ripped it off of S.A.W. They weren't too bent out of shape when I explained and gave credit to Ken for the artwork.

[m.adams]

Profile courtesy of Stickman

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/Whisper_44/Stickman/m4c_logo.gif

[RogerinTPA]

Now I like that. Very cool decal.:cool:


https://www.m4carbine.net/picture.php?albumid=30&pictureid=128

[Jay Cunningham]

Now I like that. Very cool decal.:cool:

I didn't make it, but I can't remember where I found it either.

[Joe_Friday]

Profile courtesy of Stickman

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/Whisper_44/Stickman/m4c_logo.gif

I'm in! OD or sand with black graphics and that would kick a.. well you know.:D

[28_days]

I'm in! OD or sand with black graphics and that would kick a.. well you know.:D

Its a great image, but won't look too good (most likely won't come out well) when applied on a shirt.

I do printing on the side. I've done a lot of small batches for firearms/automotive enthusiasts over the past year, and have seen what "generally" works the best. Long story short, always KISS.

[Joe_Friday]

Its a great image, but won't look too good (most likely won't come out well) when applied on a shirt.

I do printing on the side. I've done a lot of small batches for firearms/automotive enthusiasts over the past year, and have seen what "generally" works the best. Long story short, always KISS.

Not to question your experience at all, but how can you make an M4 silhouette and name any more KISS? :confused:

[tjcoker]

I'm in on buying some too, looking forward to what the creatives dudes come up with.

[randyman_ar]

Now I like that. Very cool decal.:cool:

Maybe not the best T-shirt design, but one hell of a bumper-sticker!!!

[5pins]

How about something like this.


http://generalcartridge.net/images/m4c1.jpg
http://generalcartridge.net/images/m4c2.jpg

[Robb Jensen]

How about something like this.

http://generalcartridge.net/images/m4c2.jpg

That's funny!

[sl4mdaddy]

Profile courtesy of Stickman

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v33/Whisper_44/Stickman/m4c_logo.gif

Me likey...


If you can get this image in something like vector art format instead of jpeg or the other standard image formats I might be able to convince the wife to make a few trial stickers.

[m.adams]

Let me contact Stickman to approve the use of his image first, he's not had issue in the past, but I'd prefer he signed off, even though the image has been posted in the public domain, once I get that, I have a .eps that I can send over. Please PM email address

[RogerinTPA]

How about something like this.


http://generalcartridge.net/images/m4c1.jpg
http://generalcartridge.net/images/m4c2.jpg


Excellent! Or how bout "The Chart has struck fear into the hearts of many"

[Jay Cunningham]

MultiCam or it's just not cool.

;)

[28_days]

Not to question your experience at all, but how can you make an M4 silhouette and name any more KISS? :confused:

You may or may not have issues with the fine detail. Most of it is just fine, but it would definitely need to be cleaned up in Adobe Illustrator. Areas that might have issues: the magpul, flash hider, and the rear of the LMT sight. Super small holes such as the QD point should be filled in as well--if the design is quite small. Depending on the process some designs will expand when applied.

[Spade]

I would be up to kicking around a few logo ideas. Would it be possible to make it some sort of contest? Also some sort of dead line would be nice other wise the whole shirt idea might just fall to the side. I have done some logo work before. Some digital but most were done by hand, scanned & then cleaned up. I'll keep checking in to see how this moves.

[GLP Standard]

I would kind of like to see a black t shirt with a white logo, similar to Glocks colors.

Why not keep it simple with a black shirt, with white letter over the left breast that says M4Carbine.net and then some type of larger (not too large) logo on the back?

[Seth Harness]

How about something like this.


http://generalcartridge.net/images/m4c1.jpg
http://generalcartridge.net/images/m4c2.jpg


Cool, but probably to controversial. I like it though.

[RogerinTPA]

Cool, but probably to controversial. I like it though.

You might be mistaken for a God fearing, heterosexual, patriotic, gun loving conservative...besides, it needs a rail and VFG. :)

[Spade]

trying to bump this back to the top as I still wouldl like to see an M4 shirt.

[RogerinTPA]

I think we need NickB from Magpul to churn out some M4C designs....

[SeriousStudent]

Sorry for the necropost, but this is a great idea. And I really do like all the designs offered so far.

I'll buy three shirts, they would make great gifts.

[Littlelebowski]

There are hats...

http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=HAT-M4&reference=/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi%3Fsearch%3Daction%26keywords%3Dhat%26searchstart%3D0%26template%3DPDGCommTemplates/FullNav/SearchResult.html

That looks a lot like the BCM hat I have. High quality hat.

[Seth Harness]

Any head-way made on the T-shirts or designs???
I want one.

[Joe_Friday]

Deifinitely not saying to use this (played around a little and I found that I suck at making things like this) but what about something like this on the back, with the rifle completely black, and a simple M4C on the breast.

http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm62/Joe_Friday1997/m4c.jpg

[Seth Harness]

bump.

[1ManArmy]

Hey guys,
What do you think about either of these?

[Palmguy]

Hey guys,
What do you think about either of these?

I like them both, particularly the second one with the circle logo on the back.

[Seth Harness]

Hey guys,
What do you think about either of these?

I like the second one, something tells me Im not the final approval though.

[1ManArmy]

If/when a design gets finalized, let me know where to send the vector art and you guys should be good to go.

[Detective_D]

I like the second one as well.

I will be watching this thread for ordering info. I know of at least 2 I would get.
~D

[Joe_Friday]

Yep. I am in for #2 also.

[Iraqgunz]

I like the 2nd design as well. I think that grey/ black, OD/ black and black/white would be good. Also, if people are going to commit maybe they could get their screen names on the shirts as well?

[JasonCz]

Hey guys,
What do you think about either of these?

I do some graphic design, and I really like the idea you have of the barrel and front site. Very nice and simple! Also I think that its just obscure enough so that people without any gun knowledge at all may not get offended. A full rifle outline may be asking for some attention that you dont want.

I can wear this shirt half the week and my M14 TFL shirt the other half!

[SeriousStudent]

1ManArmy, those both look very nice. I like the first design, although both are quite good.

I think the FDE and black design looks great as well. I would need to wash it less. ;)

[1ManArmy]

I do some graphic design, and I really like the idea you have of the barrel and front site. Very nice and simple! Also I think that its just obscure enough so that people without any gun knowledge at all may not get offended. A full rifle outline may be asking for some attention that you dont want.

I can wear this shirt half the week and my M14 TFL shirt the other half!

Thanks! I tried to do something that only people "in the know" would recognize on that one.

[C-Fish]

Hey guys,
What do you think about either of these?


I'm in for either as well.

[ToddG]

Not to be contrarian, but I'd wear the first design ... the second would be limited, at best, to range time. Just a function of where I live, I'm sure, but while many of my neighbors would never understand "M4" or the FSB image they would all immediately ping on full gun.

In the end, though, until the powers-which-be decide they want to make this happen, it's all just idle speculation.

[selbsttatig]

I like the second one. But I'd like to see it in white on black.

[Robb Jensen]

I'd prefer the 1st one. Non-gun people would likely not even know what it was on the back of the shirt.

[RogerinTPA]

I like the first one too. Maybe something more cryptic in the logo like M4C.NET wouldn't be a bad idea.

[Palmguy]

Just a function of where I live, I'm sure,

Yeah, it is :p

(I love living in a completely and totally red county :) )

[Spade]

Hey guys,
What do you think about either of these?


I dig the first one. Well done.

[HwyKnight]

I like the first one the best. Any room for a US Flag in the design?

[5POINT56]

Not to be contrarian, but I'd wear the first design.


Ditto. Just because I like the slightly more subtle design.

[decodeddiesel]

I'd prefer the 1st one. Non-gun people would likely not even know what it was on the back of the shirt.

For this reason the 1st one appeals to me more as well.

ETA: should be a 14.5" barrel...

[Buckeye67]

1ManArmy, those both look very nice. I like the first design, although both are quite good.

Ditto that.


I think the FDE and black design looks great as well. It would match my rifle. ;)

Fixed that for me. :D

[1ManArmy]

For this reason the 1st one appeals to me more as well.

ETA: should be a 14.5" barrel...

I knew somebody was going to call me on that! I tried it with the 14.5, the 16 works better for the design...

[decodeddiesel]

I knew somebody was going to call me on that! I tried it with the 14.5, the 16 works better for the design...

Don't take it too hard, it still looks great with a 16" ;)

[Palmguy]

I knew somebody was going to call me on that! I tried it with the 14.5, the 16 works better for the design...

Could always change it to a suppressed SBR :)

[1ManArmy]

Throw out some more suggestions and when I get a chance this weekend I'll do some revisions/different color combos and post 'em up for you guys to look at and we'll go from there. Maybe after we get a few favorites we can do a poll.

[Seth Harness]

Could always change it to a suppressed SBR :)

Good idea, I like it!

[nighthawk756]

1manarmy....great designs man. I like both and would probably buy one in both designs. And I also like the American flag idea to be on there somewhere.

C'mon guys....I can't believe some of you are letting the gun ban libs sensor what you wear. It's your personal right to wear what you want. We've been too silent and we're on the verge of another assault on our rights. We need to speak up and this shirt is a brilliant way to do just that.

What's the worst that could happen?? Maybe spark a conversation? It would be the perfect time to debate them on the topic that most of them are highly uneducated about.

I guess I'm just lucky to live in a red state. But I still have to deal with my share of gun ban libs.

[parishioner]

debate them on the topic that most of them are highly uneducated about.

Therein lies the problem. Everytime I try to present knowledgeable information in a conversation about guns I wind up wanting to beat my head into wall. Its like there is no getting across to them. If anyone can change their minds, I give you major props and would love to hear your tactics.

By the way, I like both of the shirts.

[SpartanArms]

1ManArmy,

I like both the designs you came up with. I would buy either one of them, or maybe both.:)

[Seth Harness]

If anyone can change their minds, I give you major props and would love to hear your tactics.


Ive changed a few peoples view points. I dont know for sure what does it, but Im sure its alot more exposure to any part of firearms, sights, sounds and just talking about it. Sharing my affinity for guns with people has been a good tool. Showing people that its OK to wear it on a T-shirt and talk about it, I would think would be great. Showing people that its not taboo and kind of part of the main stream has to work, I think thats what has worked for me.
... And this shirt would help in these efforts.

Okay, back to topic.

[parishioner]

Ive changed a few peoples view points. I dont know for sure what does it, but Im sure its alot more exposure to any part of firearms, sights, sounds and just talking about it. Sharing my affinity for guns with people has been a good tool. Showing people that its OK to wear it on a T-shirt and talk about it, I would think would be great. Showing people that its not taboo and kind of part of the main stream has to work, I think thats what has worked for me.
... And this shirt would help in these efforts.

Okay, back to topic.

I wasn't really trying to say that the shirts would be negative in any way because I agree with you. Talking about it and exposing it to them is better than not saying anything at all. I guess I was just recalling the many arguments that I have had with people that havent gotten anywhere thats all. Im sorry if I came across wrong.
Anyway, the shirts.....:)

[m4fun]

Design #1 - subtle and sweet.

[1ManArmy]

New design, different color schemes...

[R1pper]

New design, different color schemes...

Best design yet, I would buy all three colors

-DM-

[Detective_D]

Even better design. Lets make em.
~D

[randyman_ar]

New design, different color schemes...

I'll take one of each in XL. PM me when they're ready.

[1ManArmy]

I'm not actually making them, just offering up the design work...

[FirstSpear]

Great work, 1ManArmy.

[decodeddiesel]

I like the new shirts as well. Great job!

[nighthawk756]

Now if we could just get 'em made.

1manarmy....can you also do the other "circle" design with the full rifle? And maybe put the flag inside the circle behind the rifle? I still really like that design also.

[1ManArmy]

Something like this, Nighthawk?

[Palmguy]

Something like this, Nighthawk?

That looks fantastic. I do like them both...but still prefer the non-PC version :)

[Iraqgunz]

Ok, so what do we need to do to get the ball rolling on these shirts? I think we should have a poll and choose two different designs and color choices.

[ToddG]

Since the forum (and its name) is owned by someone, the first thing that has to happen is he needs to OK all of this. Until then, it's all just academic discussion.

[Iraqgunz]

Todd,

Who is that "someone" and how do we contact them and get permission?

[ToddG]

The forum owner is aware of the discussion and if he chooses to move forward with logo'd items, he'll let us all know.

[HwyKnight]

The designs look great. I would like to see a little full color Red/White/Blue. But not too loud. What do you guys think?

[zippygaloo]

delete

[HK2000]

you will eventually be able to buy them.

[SeriousStudent]

Very nice work, 1ManArmy. I appreciate your efforts and time.

I would definitely get a couple.

[nighthawk756]

Something like this, Nighthawk?

Yep, looks good! I'd by some of both designs. ;)

[zippygaloo]

Any chance of getting one without the huge graphic on the back? I like the subtle front.

[RogerinTPA]

Very nice designs. How about patches, stickers, coffee mugs, shooting bags, tactical briefcases, etc....We need an M4C online store!;)

[SeriousStudent]

Very nice designs. How about patches, stickers, coffee mugs, shooting bags, tactical briefcases, etc....We need an M4C online store!;)


Agreed. In my economics classes 30 years ago, I think we called that "pent up consumer demand." :p

[FirstSpear]

Those designs are good enough that I'd be happy to wear one with some other text (should the forum owner not approve of the name use).

[RogerinTPA]

Bumped so this doesn't get lost in the sauce...

[Seth Harness]

Bumped so this doesn't get lost in the sauce...

It would be cool if grant would dive in here a throw a comment or two around, I know hes a busy guy and theres probably 20 other things that would take presidence over this at any given time, but it would still be cool. :cool:

Even if this thread never produces anything, at least the high-ups here at m4c know that we members would buy it and wear it.

[C4IGrant]

It would be cool if grant would dive in here a throw a comment or two around, I know hes a busy guy and theres probably 20 other things that would take presidence over this at any given time, but it would still be cool. :cool:

Even if this thread never produces anything, at least the high-ups here at m4c know that we members would buy it and wear it.

I have been watchin this thread.

T-shirts are cool and I like the idea of doing them.


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[Medicine Calf]

This is a winner. Good work 1ManArmy.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/485/m4c2flqv5.jpg

[Seth Harness]

I have been watchin this thread.

T-shirts are cool and I like the idea of doing them.


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Good to hear...
Thanks for the reply Grant.

[1ManArmy]

This is a winner. Good work 1ManArmy.

http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/485/m4c2flqv5.jpg

Thanks. Just let me know when/where I need to send the vector art file.

[R1pper]

New design, different color schemes...

This is the best design, as I stated before, I will buy one in each color

-DM-

[kbrdann]

If these shirts become available please PM me with ordering info.

[HwyKnight]

Any update on t-shirts?

[Joe_Friday]

Thought I would throw this back up again :D. Any news????

[TOM1911]

I'm in for 5 of these if thet ever get to the production phase:D

[HwyKnight]

Just thought I would post a reply to get this back up top. Any news on these or other designs? What about hats, etc?

[tinman44]

i'm in for 2

[RogerinTPA]

Bumped to see if any more ideas have surfaced.

[glockeyed]

not trying to steal 1ManArmy's thunder, but his logo on the front of the shirt inspired these.

https://www.m4carbine.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3217&stc=1&d=1253128564

https://www.m4carbine.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3218&stc=1&d=1253128564

[heijutsu]

Man, that logo is hot. I'm in.

[Outlander Systems]

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/681/tshirth.jpg

[Iraqgunz]

We really need to make these things happen.

[decodeddiesel]

https://www.m4carbine.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3218&stc=1&d=1253128564

This is awesome!

[RogerinTPA]

not trying to steal 1ManArmy's thunder, but his logo on the front of the shirt inspired these.

https://www.m4carbine.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3217&stc=1&d=1253128564

https://www.m4carbine.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=3218&stc=1&d=1253128564

Nice logo glockeye. Now if we can get the powers at be to bring these ideas to fruition....

[SeriousStudent]

Those are all excellent! Very good work, gents! :D

[Naxet1959]

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/681/tshirth.jpg

That is the classic inside joke! The Chart LIVES!!

[Rider79]

I like this one, but with this saying on the back and a small logo on the front.


http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/681/tshirth.jpg

[beren74]

[QUOTE=glockeyed;454641]not trying to steal 1ManArmy's thunder, but his logo on the front of the shirt inspired these.

(snipped the excellent logos to save bandwidth)QUOTE]

TOS has the bolt face, it just makes sense for M4C to use the front sight. Good job, I think it would be great for stickers and patches too.

[tinman44]

That is the classic inside joke! The Chart LIVES!!

I'm in for 2 of these if you can dial down the logo

[MichaelD]

I like this one, but with this saying on the back and a small logo on the front.

Agreed. I'd definitely get a couple.

[28_days]

1ManArmy and I were working on some M4C shirts, but the idea kinda fell through on the management side.

So I ended up printing them and selling them through my site http://www.1791apparel.com

http://static.shopify.com/s/files/1/0022/9902/products/m4_flag_220.jpg?1252281634

and this...

http://static.shopify.com/s/files/1/0022/9902/products/gadsden_220.jpg?1252281634

If the idea gets brought up again, and management gets on board, we'll have a go at it. ;)

[Rider79]

1ManArmy and I were working on some M4C shirts, but the idea kinda fell through on the management side.

So I ended up printing them and selling them through my site http://www.1791apparel.com


I like them, but I'm fat, can we get a 3X? :)

[Outlander Systems]

http://static.shopify.com/s/files/1/0022/9902/products/gadsden_220.jpg?1252281634

Awesomeness. Whatever the shirt is, I want to see this on it.

[28_days]

I like them, but I'm fat, can we get a 3X? :)

Yes, you sure can! :)


http://static.shopify.com/s/files/1/0022/9902/products/gadsden_220.jpg?1252281634

Awesomeness. Whatever the shirt is, I want to see this on it.

Give me a week to see what I can cook up. I'll get a hold of the artist, and a few others and see what we can do. ;)

[HMFIC]

1ManArmy and I were working on some M4C shirts, but the idea kinda fell through on the management side.

So I ended up printing them and selling them through my site http://www.1791apparel.com

http://static.shopify.com/s/files/1/0022/9902/products/m4_flag_220.jpg?1252281634

and this...

http://static.shopify.com/s/files/1/0022/9902/products/gadsden_220.jpg?1252281634

If the idea gets brought up again, and management gets on board, we'll have a go at it. ;)


Ordered 3.....

[bigshooter]

1ManArmy and I were working on some M4C shirts, but the idea kinda fell through on the management side.

So I ended up printing them and selling them through my site http://www.1791apparel.com

http://static.shopify.com/s/files/1/0022/9902/products/m4_flag_220.jpg?1252281634

and this...

http://static.shopify.com/s/files/1/0022/9902/products/gadsden_220.jpg?1252281634

If the idea gets brought up again, and management gets on board, we'll have a go at it. ;)

Ordered 2

[28_days]

Just a quick update.

I'm looking to have a few different design selections up for voting sometime Sunday. If anyone has any last minute suggestions please feel free to email me.

Thanks! ;)

[Outlander Systems]

Gadsden flags + Patriot-themed + American Flag + Colonial Flag + etc.

It's hard to go wrong with national roots, amigo.

Anything related to "The Chart", as well.

[Seth Harness]

http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/681/tshirth.jpg




We really need to make these things happen.

AGREED

[theblackknight]

Just in time for Xmas. . . .

[jmp45]

I made an M4Carbine.net persona theme for firefox a few months ago if anyone is interested..

http://www.getpersonas.com/en-US/persona/128424

[LonghunterCO]

1ManArmy and I were working on some M4C shirts, but the idea kinda fell through on the management side.

So I ended up printing them and selling them through my site http://www.1791apparel.com

http://static.shopify.com/s/files/1/0022/9902/products/m4_flag_220.jpg?1252281634

and this...

http://static.shopify.com/s/files/1/0022/9902/products/gadsden_220.jpg?1252281634

If the idea gets brought up again, and management gets on board, we'll have a go at it. ;)

It says I need a password and to contact you?!?

[jwfuhrman]

It says I need a password and to contact you?!?

same here

[28_days]

My site has been down for quite a while now (as I've been finished my new house). It'll will be reopening in November--as it says :)

We never ended up going forward with M4C shirts.

[Army Chief]

There seem to be a number of site logo ideas In circulation. Here is one I did a while back in response to a request from site Staff ...

http://www.weaponevolution.com/images/ac/M4C_v2c1.png

AC

[Paulinski]

I'm in for at least two t-thirts in XL.

[glockeyed]

There seem to be a number of site logo ideas In circulation. Here is one I did a while back in response to a request from site Staff ...

http://www.weaponevolution.com/images/ac/M4C_v2c1.png

AC

WINNER!

[RogerinTPA]

Awesome design AC.:cool:


There seem to be a number of site logo ideas In circulation. Here is one I did a while back in response to a request from site Staff ...

http://www.weaponevolution.com/images/ac/M4C_v2c1.png

AC

[HES]

There seem to be a number of site logo ideas In circulation. Here is one I did a while back in response to a request from site Staff ...

http://www.weaponevolution.com/images/ac/M4C_v2c1.png

AC

Awesome. My thought, drop the "m4" text and just leave the carbine.net" text in place.

[Army Chief]

Working on the revision now.

AC

[BrianS]

I like the M4 part, the 4 is creating an FSB/bayonet lug shape for the barrel.

[Army Chief]

I'm working with various attempts to strip the "m4" text from the lower reference, but to be honest, it leads to a very confusing impression that the name of the site is "carbine.net," since not everyone is going to automatically pick up on the stylized handguards/FSB m4 component.

The next best thing seems to be to relocate things a bit for a more balanced effect, and then offset the m4 part of the text reference. It is easily omitted altogether, but if we go that route, the design will lose effectiveness as a clear URL reference to M4CN.

Gradient effects seem to work better when they are cut down a bit ...

http://www.weaponevolution.com/images/ac/M4C_test.png

... and a solid tone (i.e. full black) version works fairly well, too. I always try to test monotone variations because they are inherently more compatible with simple output applications like embroidery, two-color stickers, single-screen shirts and yes -- even receiver rollmarks.

http://www.weaponevolution.com/images/ac/M4C_test2.png

AC

[C4IGrant]

Smooth AC!



C4

[Army Chief]

A preliminary shirt concept, albeit a very simple one.

http://www.weaponevolution.com/images/ac/tan.png
http://www.weaponevolution.com/images/ac/white.png
http://www.weaponevolution.com/images/ac/black.png

AC

[Stickman]

Good looking shirt, I can imagine how many people will be wearing them at SHOT.

[murphy j]

I like them AC. Awesome work Sir.

[Safetyhit]

I'm in for a couple at least.

[HwyKnight]

How about a Gadsden flag on the opposite sleeve?

[SeriousStudent]

Tell me how much to make the check out for, and where to send it.

Very nice, sir.

[HwyKnight]

How much, and how do I get it?

[thopkins22]

Let me know who I need to bribe to make this happen. Army Chief has a real winner of a design there.

I like Gadsden and all that, but too much clutter can kill a good shirt. We like quality rifles and America. Enough said.

[Army Chief]

Oddly enough, I did do a version with the Gadsen flag, and liked that quite a bit.

The "problem" is that it does look a bit cluttered to have both, it raises the per-shirt cost to screen it, and I wasn't sure about the underlying message this might send, given that the Gadsen seems to have been co-opted of late by certain political factions. We may agree with many of these groups, of course, but I still thought it wise to strike a more apolitical chord with the basic design.

I've no burning desire to muscle my way into any of this as the self-appointed M4CN T-Shirt Czar, though I am certainly willing to continue to develop and refine it, should that be the intent of management. My purposes were just to respond to an inquiry and offer some new ideas.

AC

[Heartland Hawk]

Lets do this. I'd be in for at least two as well.

[HwyKnight]

How about a smaller identical design in the left front area with the full size graphic on the back?

[cop1211]

In for two.;)

[5pins]

We have been talking about this for two years now, why hasn’t this happened already?

[28_days]

We have been talking about this for two years now, why hasn’t this happened already?

Because last time we tried to get this off the ground it got stalled.

You have to be careful if you start doing designs on the sleeves. A) it's not nearly as consistent from a printing perspective, B) the larger the shirt, the more difficult it is too place.

Placement gets confusing because it can change drastically from S to 3XL. From my experience most firearm owners wear L; XL being the second most common.

[28_days]

Double post.

[No.6]

Oddly enough, I did do a version with the Gadsen flag, and liked that quite a bit.

Either that or put the Stars and Stripes on the other sleeve to balance it.


The "problem" is that it does look a bit cluttered to have both, it raises the per-shirt cost to screen it, and I wasn't sure about the underlying message this might send, given that the Gadsen seems to have been co-opted of late by certain political factions. We may agree with many of these groups, of course, but I still thought it wise to strike a more apolitical chord with the basic design.

Co-opted or not, it represents much of the mind set of the folks on here IMO.


I've no burning desire to muscle my way into any of this as the self-appointed M4CN T-Shirt Czar, though I am certainly willing to continue to develop and refine it, should that be the intent of management. My purposes were just to respond to an inquiry and offer some new ideas.

AC

I'm sure we could persuade POTUS to appoint you "T-Shirt Czar". ;) He seems to like to do that sort of thing.
Speaking for myself, I hope you do continue to refine the design and see it to fruition.

[Army Chief]

Either that or put the Stars and Stripes on the other sleeve to balance it.

Actually, that was the exact approach that was used in the draft. There are some issues associated with yet another screen pass, especially when it comes to making sure sleeve placement is consistent (as correctly identified above), but we might yet incorporate this in some other fashion. Stay tuned.


Co-opted or not, it represents much of the mind set of the folks on here IMO.

Amen.


I'm sure we could persuade POTUS to appoint you "T-Shirt Czar". ;) He seems to like to do that sort of thing.
Speaking for myself, I hope you do continue to refine the design and see it to fruition.

Have been asked to do just that, and the work is underway. Spent several hours on this last night, and will likely devote several more over the weekend. Have been given enough guidance and budgetary consideration by the management to say that we ARE currently on the road to doing these.

AC

[Army Chief]

As a quick aside, I should note that one of the problems I've encountered in incorporated a Gadsen design element is that it invariably ends up giving the impression that we're invoking some reference to Bushmaster/BFI.

Obviously, we're looking to steer clear of these kinds of affiliations.

AC

[No.6]

That good news, oh great T-Shirt Czar!
Just my dos centavos, if the sleeves are problematic with alignment and multiple passes (and the potential QC failures), just the front and back would be wonderful in itself. I'd be in for a couple regardless. Thanks for the effort and time you've devoted to this.

[SeriousStudent]

........ Have been given enough guidance and budgetary consideration by the management to say that we ARE currently on the road to doing these.

AC

Most excellent news. I'll be happy to pre-order several, when it is time to do so.

Thank you for your time and effort on this, along with all the other contributors.

It would be pretty sweet to wear one of these to a Vickers Tactical class in February. :D

[No.6]

Any updates?

[Army Chief]

Any updates?

Have really been pressed for time of late, but we've got some solid composites in play, and are discussing options. Will likely have more than one style available, but it takes a bit of time to get things set up, if you want to deliver a best-in-class product.

Soon.

AC

[theblackknight]

I like the tan one. Army guys could wear it under their cammies too!