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Koshinn
05-03-17, 01:38
Where did this phrase come from?

What does it even mean? What does a dream shoot like? I don't think a dream has ever shot anything. Maybe things in your dreams shoot or get shot at, but the dream itself doesn't even really exist. Are they saying they don't even shoot their gun, because that's the only way to really compare it to a dream.

Do they actually mean "shoots like I dreamed it would shoot"? It's a tool, why are you dreaming about it?

Do people lack such creativity or vocabulary that they must use a vague cliche to justify their purchases?


Also, trigger break like a glass rod. I've never personally broken a glass rod, but I'd imagine it would be a very high trigger pull weight if you're comparing it to a glass rod.

SteyrAUG
05-03-17, 04:31
"Drives like the wind..."

Probably most of this stupid stuff originated on Madison Ave. before most of us were born. Everything else is just a variation on established dreams.

Additionally, sales pitches such as "engages multiple targets quickly and easily, reminded me of shooting VC brats in country" and "accurate enough to score hits from tall buildings" might be more specific but may not play well to wider audiences.

As for "glass rod" it was somebodies ideal of a "crisp break" that "surprised the shooter" rather than an idea of trigger weight. That was back when people were coached to let the gun "surprise you" rather than break the trigger on command.

Anyone somebody probably wrote it in some gun rag and every idiot who read it quoted it for a couple decades.

ggammell
05-03-17, 07:07
Probably came about around the same time as its hanger-on "if I did my part." No shit.

Watrdawg
05-03-17, 07:09
"shoots like a dream". Every time I'm shooting at something in my dreams it is usually trying to attack me or break into the house or some such thing. No matter how hard I pull the trigger nothing happens or when it does fire the bullet flies about a foot or so out of the barrel and drops right to the ground. In my case it's more like , shoots like a nightmare!!

MAUSER202
05-03-17, 07:33
Now you've ruined it for a lot of folks, if I cant be creative in my analogy of my weapons performance, I might as well put it on the EE and get a different hobby where my poetic prose is appreciated;-)

FromMyColdDeadHand
05-03-17, 08:07
Guns malfunctioned in my dreams until I found the Dream Chart for ARs.

skywalkrNCSU
05-03-17, 08:08
"shoots like a dream". Every time I'm shooting at something in my dreams it is usually trying to attack me or break into the house or some such thing. No matter how hard I pull the trigger nothing happens or when it does fire the bullet flies about a foot or so out of the barrel and drops right to the ground. In my case it's more like , shoots like a nightmare!!

Man this happens to me all the time. Or I am trying to shoot some bad guy and I am actually able to fire the gun but it does absolutely nothing to stop him. Some of the most frustrating dreams.

militarymoron
05-03-17, 08:12
It refers to the figure of speech that relates to something you desire. I (day) dream of having that car, or shooting groups like that etc.

SomeOtherGuy
05-03-17, 08:13
What does a dream shoot like?

Pretty much the same as a unicorn fart after binging on habanero skittles for two weeks.


Also, trigger break like a glass rod. I've never personally broken a glass rod, but I'd imagine it would be a very high trigger pull weight if you're comparing it to a glass rod.

No one said the glass rod has to be any specific diameter. Thin glass rods break easily. The key characteristic of a "glass rod" trigger break is that you get little sharp bits of material all over the floor and you can only experience it once. Picture Emma Frost having... a... uh... you know.... sneezing fit.

26 Inf
05-03-17, 08:36
Also, trigger break like a glass rod. I've never personally broken a glass rod, but I'd imagine it would be a very high trigger pull weight if you're comparing it to a glass rod.

Didn't you ever take organic chemistry? Scoring and breaking glass rods (actually tubes) to use with stoppers in test tubes? Clean, surprise break.

http://www.cmscientific.com/info_sheets/how_to_snap_cut_glass_tubing_and_rod.pdf

wildcard600
05-03-17, 11:10
That's why I only shop at CarniK Con Defense. Much better metaphors.

Koshinn
05-03-17, 12:34
Pretty much the same as a unicorn fart after binging on habanero skittles for two weeks.



No one said the glass rod has to be any specific diameter. Thin glass rods break easily. The key characteristic of a "glass rod" trigger break is that you get little sharp bits of material all over the floor and you can only experience it once. Picture Emma Frost having... a... uh... you know.... sneezing fit.

Super thin glass rods actually bend and can be wound into a spool of about 12" diameter.


Didn't you ever take organic chemistry? Scoring and breaking glass rods (actually tubes) to use with stoppers in test tubes? Clean, surprise break.

http://www.cmscientific.com/info_sheets/how_to_snap_cut_glass_tubing_and_rod.pdf

Actually I haven't taken ochem. Only physics and computer engineering/science classes.

Firefly
05-03-17, 12:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IivGqwQvdCI

Like anythimg else, it originated from Debbie Gibson. Then the Square commubity got it, misappropriated it, and broke it.

SteyrAUG
05-03-17, 13:28
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IivGqwQvdCI

Like anythimg else, it originated from Debbie Gibson. Then the Square commubity got it, misappropriated it, and broke it.

My God I was in love with Gibson. Then years later she did a Playboy layout and I was further vindicated in my affections.

26 Inf
05-03-17, 16:36
Super thin glass rods actually bend and can be wound into a spool of about 12" diameter.



Actually I haven't taken ochem. Only physics and computer engineering/science classes.

I actually went back to the local juco and took Organic 1 and 2 after I got my BA. Just cause I wanted to. Had a riot. What was scary was I was taking the classes for grins and giggles yet I was damn near the only one in the class who came prepared.

Since I've retired, I thought about going back and taking some journalism and film/video editing courses. Unfortunately, they are only during the day, and I don't want to give up another one or two days a week.

MegademiC
05-03-17, 16:45
Where did this phrase come from?

What does it even mean? What does a dream shoot like? I don't think a dream has ever shot anything. Maybe things in your dreams shoot or get shot at, but the dream itself doesn't even really exist. Are they saying they don't even shoot their gun, because that's the only way to really compare it to a dream.

Do they actually mean "shoots like I dreamed it would shoot"? It's a tool, why are you dreaming about it?

Do people lack such creativity or vocabulary that they must use a vague cliche to justify their purchases?


Also, trigger break like a glass rod. I've never personally broken a glass rod, but I'd imagine it would be a very high trigger pull weight if you're comparing it to a glass rod.

First of all dreams are"pleasant". So the gun shoots pleasantly.

2nd thing. Glass rods break means it's crisp. It's about smooth and crisp, not the weight. A glass rod would break however light or heavy you want based on the diameter.

Breaks like an icicle is a better description, imo.

Firefly
05-03-17, 16:48
I actually went back to the local juco and took Organic 1 and 2 after I got my BA. Just cause I wanted to. Had a riot. What was scary was I was taking the classes for grins and giggles yet I was damn near the only one in the class who came prepared.

Since I've retired, I thought about going back and taking some journalism and film/video editing courses. Unfortunately, they are only during the day, and I don't want to give up another one or two days a week.


I pissed my kollij days on a BS in CS.

But I too sorta want to go film school and be like a more severe, Platoon-era Oliver Stone director of stag films.

There simply arent enough pornographic films tackling the Spanish-American war with period correct weapons and uniforms. Plus most porn actors are REAL thespians. Unknown masses whom society has shunned. Young people cast off by polite society.

A sweeping epic of Glory, Sorrow, Romance, Rape, Destruction and Pyrrhism.

I just need money, someone who can work a camera, and a lot of old guns.

ETA or maybe I just want to see Mercedes Carrera bloodied but unbowed, barefoot in a tattered dress with a pistol screaming Cuba Libre

Doc Safari
05-03-17, 17:16
So, one day the crickets were chirping loudly at M4carbine.net, and in that midst came a thread about what the phrase "shoots like a dream" means.

Chirp....chirp....chirp....chirp.....

Okay, I guess I'll play.

My pet peeve is "hopefully". Hopefully is an ADVERB. The correct way is not to say "Hopefully, such and such will happen..." The correct usage is "She looked at things hopefully." Using "hopefully" at the beginning of a sentence is substituting "hopefully" for "I hope." And that is grammatically incorrect.


So, hopefully after reading this people will stop using the word incorrectly.

SteyrAUG
05-03-17, 17:36
So, one day the crickets were chirping loudly at M4carbine.net, and in that midst came a thread about what the phrase "shoots like a dream" means.

Chirp....chirp....chirp....chirp.....

Okay, I guess I'll play.

My pet peeve is "hopefully". Hopefully is an ADVERB. The correct way is not to say "Hopefully, such and such will happen..." The correct usage is "She looked at things hopefully." Using "hopefully" at the beginning of a sentence is substituting "hopefully" for "I hope." And that is grammatically incorrect.


So, hopefully after reading this people will stop using the word incorrectly.

Hopefully that will happen.

Bubba FAL
05-03-17, 17:50
Yeah, hopefully it does happen, irregardless of circumstances. :-)

Averageman
05-03-17, 18:25
I actually went back to the local juco and took Organic 1 and 2 after I got my BA. Just cause I wanted to. Had a riot. What was scary was I was taking the classes for grins and giggles yet I was damn near the only one in the class who came prepared.

You do realize just how evil that is for everyone else don't you?
That retired person who takes one class a semester and can put forty hours of prep a week in to a single Organic Chemistry might be learning a hell of a lot of cool stuff but, they are always going to look much more prepared than some poor sucker holding down a full time job, raising kids and taking 16 credit hours a semester.

26 Inf
05-03-17, 18:55
You do realize just how evil that is for everyone else don't you?
That retired person who takes one class a semester and can put forty hours of prep a week in to a single Organic Chemistry might be learning a hell of a lot of cool stuff but, they are always going to look much more prepared than some poor sucker holding down a full time job, raising kids and taking 16 credit hours a semester.

Yeah, yeah. So when I was in college and taking a half load, commuting an hour each way, working 40+ hours a week, raising two kids, and serving as a platoon sergeant in the USAR (an airborne unit to boot) I wasn't supposed to make the same effort? BS. The only B on my transcript was college alegbra and that was a transfer from Chapman College when I was in the Marines.

If there is a will, there is a way.

Averageman
05-04-17, 15:56
Yeah, yeah. So when I was in college and taking a half load, commuting an hour each way, working 40+ hours a week, raising two kids, and serving as a platoon sergeant in the USAR (an airborne unit to boot) I wasn't supposed to make the same effort? BS. The only B on my transcript was college alegbra and that was a transfer from Chapman College when I was in the Marines.

If there is a will, there is a way.

I did it on active duty. Same thing here, Lunch, nights and weekends. Graduated with a 3.7 GPA. I enjoyed the experience, but I'm very happy it is over, 20 credits short of an MBA and I wouldn't go back if you paid me.
We had one Lady though, she would haunt the business classes. One class a semester, she put Da'Vinci on the Sistine Chapel like efforts in to every single class, honestly, I was very jealous of her time and efforts.

Zirk208
05-08-17, 14:06
"Flawless" Every time I see this in some post, I disregard everything after it.

Most post that incorporate "flawless" go like this: "Just got my new Anderson build done today and topped it off with a PSA Blem upper. Ran 60 rounds through it fast as I could...Flawless."

Watrdawg
05-08-17, 14:21
"Flawless" Every time I see this in some post, I disregard everything after it.

Most post that incorporate "flawless" go like this: "Just got my new Anderson build done today and topped it off with a PSA Blem upper. Ran 60 rounds through it fast as I could...Flawless."

Whenever se statements such as those my first thought is; Come back after a couple thousand rounds and then qualify that statement.

I've had name brand guns that I bought as complete guns do fine in the 1st couple of hundred rounds then have issues of some kind or another. Most of them have been magazine issues or something I have caused myself. Little stuff though. I've finally built a weapon from the ground up and I'm about as anxious as can be to get on the range with it. Hopefully it runs fine and all I have to do is tweak something here or there when working the bugs out of it.