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RetroRevolver77
05-08-17, 01:54
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Clint
05-08-17, 03:33
No, the "Michigan Pistol" is a thing of the past.

You still need to register actual pistols with MSP.

http://miafr.com/2012/10/23/summary-of-michigans-new-pistol-definition-law/

RetroRevolver77
05-08-17, 10:14
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sva01
05-08-17, 14:06
This chart explains it well...

http://i.imgur.com/gAEdxdg.jpg

http://www.migunowners.org/forum/showthread.php?299232-What-is-my-AR-Platform-(Federal-State-of-Michigan)

4325
05-08-17, 22:48
So basically it's still in affect- rifles under 26" collapsed/folded length are still considered "pistols" in Michigan and require registration as pistols. I.e., folding stock AK's etc. So if you have an AMD 65 with pinned muzzle extension that when folded is under 26" in length or a Hungarian AKM underfolder that when folded is under 26" length- will require pistol registration is what I'm reading. Basically Michigan hasn't adopted the Federal guidelines which is a rifle has a barrel of 16" in length and is measured with the stock extended.

Correct

Clint
05-09-17, 07:45
Here is the law.

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(ic2u4ir1y1zpl5td1z5tzasq))/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=mcl-328-1931-XXXVII

The answer to the whole question is ambiguous.

It doesn't mention how to measure in the law.

There was an MI AG opinion from back in '85 that essentially says to measure in the shortest operable condition and <26" made it an SBR, which was not legal at the time.

SBRs and suppressors are now legal in MI as long as they are legal federally.

The Feds measure OAL with a folding/collapsing stock in the longest position.

e.x. a 16" barrel folding stock AK does NOT become an SBR just because it falls below 26" folded.

4325
05-09-17, 14:11
Here is the law.

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(ic2u4ir1y1zpl5td1z5tzasq))/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=mcl-328-1931-XXXVII

The answer to the whole question is ambiguous.

It doesn't mention how to measure in the law.

There was an MI AG opinion from back in '85 that essentially says to measure in the shortest operable condition and <26" made it an SBR, which was not legal at the time.

SBRs and suppressors are now legal in MI as long as they are legal federally.

The Feds measure OAL with a folding/collapsing stock in the longest position.

e.x. a 16" barrel folding stock AK does NOT become an SBR just because it falls below 26" folded.

Not to be argumentative but it's not ambiguous...if it's under 26" it's a pistol in MI
see sec (f)
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(m040lwfxl1gqic3f5n533fcs))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=mcl-750-222

Clint
05-10-17, 18:50
Not to be argumentative but it's not ambiguous...if it's under 26" it's a pistol in MI
see sec (f)
http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(m040lwfxl1gqic3f5n533fcs))/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=mcl-750-222

The length number is clear.

Whats ambiguous in the law as written is how to measure in the case of a folded stock.

At any rate, registering a "pistol" is free, easy and fast.

Just drop off the form and you're done.