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tanktop
05-25-17, 00:02
It's listed as a 16" 1/8 twist Chrome moly Vanadium melanite barrel. I don't claim to be a smart man although I do play one on TV but is it Chrome lined or melonite? If both, how and where... furthermore why?

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Eric D.
05-25-17, 00:09
Per the specs my guess is that it's melonited, not chrome lined. Chrome in "chrome moly" or "chromoly" refers to the element chromium which is an alloying element of the barrel steel. Similarly, "moly" refers to the alloying element molybdenum.
JC5188
05-25-17, 03:32
^^^^pretty much


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Iraqgunz
05-25-17, 07:03
I am fairly certain it is a 4140 barrel with a Melonite treatment.
Straight Shooter
05-25-17, 07:14
I tell people almost daily- when you see a $400-500 dollar AR...they've cut corners someway, somehow. They've built the gun to a price point...instead of building it to a standard, then pricing accordingly.
They STILL think they can get a $500 AR that's gonna be "just like a Colt or BCM..whats the difference"?
Im just gonna start saying "nuttin".
vicious_cb
05-25-17, 12:21
In case you didn't hear the news or saw the banner, shitfield armory and RRA supported an anti 2A bill. Considering their ARs are garbage I would look elsewhere.
NongShim
05-25-17, 14:03
In case you didn't hear the news or saw the banner, shitfield armory and RRA supported an anti 2A bill. Considering their ARs are garbage I would look elsewhere.

Do tell.
Jpoe88
05-25-17, 14:40
I tell people almost daily- when you see a $400-500 dollar AR...they've cut corners someway, somehow. They've built the gun to a price point...instead of building it to a standard, then pricing accordingly.
They STILL think they can get a $500 AR that's gonna be "just like a Colt or BCM..whats the difference"?
Im just gonna start saying "nuttin".


You should. Let them find out on their own.
EHilderbrand
05-26-17, 06:00
You should. Let them find out on their own.

Most people buying a $500.00-600.00 AR-15 are not going to shoot it enough to find out it's weak points.
JasonB1
05-26-17, 07:11
In case you didn't hear the news or saw the banner, shitfield armory and RRA supported an anti 2A bill. Considering their ARs are garbage I would look elsewhere.

The vast majority of the firearms industry from manufacturers down to individual shops support anti 2nd Amendment crap in some capacity. Companies like BCM cancelling Milwaukee PD's order because Chief Ed Flynn is an anti-gun statist are the extreme exception.
Jpoe88
05-26-17, 08:03
Most people buying a $500.00-600.00 AR-15 are not going to shoot it enough to find out it's weak points.

Unfortunately, I fall in that category, which is why I build the way I do. But since i now have a different job and don't have to drive an hour to the range (40 acre back yard) I'm gonna step it up a notch. I have been maybe 4 times in 3 years to the range.
hdrolling
05-26-17, 10:39
Most people buying a $500.00-600.00 AR-15 are not going to shoot it enough to find out it's weak points.

What are the weak points?
Singlestack Wonder
05-26-17, 11:23
What are the weak points?

Do some reading on M4carbine.net and learn.....
hdrolling
05-26-17, 11:28
Do some reading on M4carbine.net and learn.....

I've read a lot of threads dealing with the $400 builds up to the $2000 tier I rifles, they all seem to have had an issue at one time or another.

What are the proven facts that all sub $600 AR's suffer from?
Mysteryman
05-26-17, 21:30
Do tell.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/04/john-boch/springfield-armory-rock-river-arms-trade-opposition-to-illinois-ffl-licensing-scheme-for-carve-out/

http://www.guns.com/2017/05/02/state-level-gun-dealer-licensing-bill-passes-in-illinois-senate/

Or this one from this site
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?196094-Springfield-Armory-and-RRA-sponsor-anti-gun-bill


I've read a lot of threads dealing with the $400 builds up to the $2000 tier I rifles, they all seem to have had an issue at one time or another.

What are the proven facts that all sub $600 AR's suffer from?

Here's a link to the finer details that BCM puts into their rifles to meet mil spec. Tell me if a $500 AR brand is following suit.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?55930-BCM-Stuff

No one is saying you can't get a cheap AR that runs, we're just saying that if you want some level of assurance that your rifle will run and is built to a standard then a $500 gun is not what you should be looking at. I'm sure many of the finer points in the link above will have little to no bearing on the reliability of the rifle. However, BCM feels it necessary to do each of those steps as that is what is spec'd for the US mil /mil spec. That attention to detail stems from a company that cares more about the product(QA/QC) than meeting a price point, a target market, or gross sales numbers. That all being said there is no need to spend $2000 on a rifle either. A quality colt or BCM or LMT rifle can be had for around $1000 with little effort in looking.

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