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I am not even sure how to start this.
So I think I will go back in time before I address the current situation.
But first I am not a Republican nor a Democrat. I support the Constitution.
We had a President named Obama for 8 years and if you look at it he only really got 2 things done. Obama care and the Iran deal for which I will curse his name forever.
But we didn't lose our guns, and other than a huge abuse by federal agencies for political reasons. We survived these 8 years.
His supports didn't get Gitmo closed or a lot of other things they thought they were going to get.
Now we have a new President and he promised a bunch of things for his first 100 days. Some of which mattered a lot to me.
So here we get to my frustration, can we trust any person that goes to DC to keep their word?
Should I even get upset if they don't keep their word.
Is the correct approach to look at the system and understand how our forefathers structured everything was to make it all effed up from day one so that government could impose big radical changes .
I don't know if I am even doing a good job of communicating what I am feeling. Just thought I would throw out some ideas to get feed back on what others are feeling. To get others insight that may give me greater wisdom.
How old are you? It seems you may have invested too much of yourself emotionally into the political process. If any President accomplishes 50% of what they promise, they're doing pretty good. Vote your beliefs and the candidate that matches those beliefs the closest. I have never found a candidate that matches what I want 100%.
Finally, in this Country, you have to operate despite Government. If you think your elected officials have violated the Constitution, then vote them out or ignore what they do. If you're a voter that has only a few issues (gun control, abortion, etc.) and government violates your rights, then you have the choice to accept what they attempt to do to you. or not. Take gun confiscation; in the future that could be law, but you have the choice to accept it or not. Maybe we'll all be criminals someday?
Yoni - You and I could sit down and within a month hammer out a better health-care program than both President Obama and the Republicans have accomplished (I say the Republicans versus President Trump because President Trump hasn't provided any guidance on it as Obama did). Likewise we could, within a month, hammer out an accord which would be mutually acceptable to the Israelis and the Palestinians.
That would work fine if it was up to us and we worked honestly toward a common goal. That is what the forefathers envisioned. And it would be true today IF......special interests didn't have such powers.
In today's world, those workable programs that you and I could develop would fail to materialize because everyone wants to stick their finger in the pie and have a taste.
As OH58D said, expect at the most 50%. Really, folks who have an upper two digit IQ should have been aware that President Trump wasn't going to be able to build a wall across the southern border, much less get Mexico to pay for the wall. Most of them suspended disbelief because he was saying things they wanted to hear. That is a problem.
Regarding President Trump, by now it should be obvious that one of the problems we are going to face is that he will continue to make promises he can not keep until he begins relying on those beyond his immediate circle. A good example of this is the Saudi Arms deal. Much of that probably won't happen because Congress won't allow the balance of power viz a viz Isreal to shift in the Saudi's favor. His 'team' full well knew that but he apparently didn't confer with them.
The road ahead is going to be bumpy. Hopefully we will, finally, learn how to pull together. But it isn't going to all happen overnight.
Yoni, OH58D and 26 Inf:
You all made excellent points, nothing much I can add. But I will just share what my thought was before I went to the poll in November.
1. Trump wasn't my choice, but it was the only choice I could vote for, there was no way I was going to vote for the hillbeast or sit home and not vote.
2. I knew going in that he would never be able to keep 100% of his campaign promise. It would be great if he would be able to keep half of his promise. So far I think he's been doing well or at least trying.
3. I knew that of the campaign promises that he can push, if only half of those succeeds I would be happy.
Yoni, OH58D and 26 Inf:
You all made excellent points, nothing much I can add. But I will just share what my thought was before I went to the poll in November.
1. Trump wasn't my choice, but it was the only choice I could vote for, there was no way I was going to vote for the hillbeast or sit home and not vote.
2. I knew going in that he would never be able to keep 100% of his campaign promise. It would be great if he would be able to keep half of his promise. So far I think he's been doing well or at least trying.
3. I knew that of the campaign promises that he can push, if only half of those succeeds I would be happy.
About the same as my thoughts as well. What really scares me is the flak this president is getting from the other side and the press.
About the same as my thoughts as well. What really scares me is the flak this president is getting from the other side and the press.
The American Left is becoming unhinged, and violent. The Mainstream Media pours gas on the fire and even helps fan the flames. I honestly don't think the Conservative Right really knows how to deal with this kind of violent activism from the far Left. We were all raised with the idea that Free Speech is just that....Free. We were raised with the concept that your could disagree with your political foe, but be cordial and respectful of their opinion. That seems to be outdated and somewhat simplistic now. I am afraid that in the future, a proud Conservative could face violence when even trying to vote. Look at how many Trump supporters kept their beliefs low key until election day. No bumper stickers and few yard signs. These people were afraid of getting their vehicles vandalized and homes targeted.
The American Left is becoming unhinged, and violent. The Mainstream Media pours gas on the fire and even helps fan the flames. I honestly don't think the Conservative Right really knows how to deal with this kind of violent activism from the far Left. We were all raised with the idea that Free Speech is just that....Free. We were raised with the concept that your could disagree with your political foe, but be cordial and respectful of their opinion. That seems to be outdated and somewhat simplistic now. I am afraid that in the future, a proud Conservative could face violence when even trying to vote. Look at how many Trump supporters kept their beliefs low key until election day. No bumper stickers and few yard signs. These people were afraid of getting their vehicles vandalized and homes targeted.
This is a very good point.
SomeOtherGuy
05-26-17, 13:51
We're all frustrated. I liked over half of Trump's campaign positions, and yes had normal skepticism. As far as I can tell immigration is the only one where's made any serious effort, and it's been stymied to an extent that is absolutely unprecedented through dubious court rulings and political actions all over the place. Really, looking at just immigration is a BIG FLASHING WARNING SIGN that there is nothing even faintly resembling democracy (or representative democracy in our supposed constitutional republic, for the sticklers). There is a pure oligarchy and all voting for a president is just smoke and mirrors, bread and circuses, to quiet the masses. Anyway, it doesn't seem like Trump is serious now about any other campaign promises, so here's why I'm frustrated:
1) I never would have voted for Trump if I had any better option, but in an election year of shockingly bad candidates, he looked least bad (and still does);
2) I think I got conned, anyway;
3) Even when he tries, the "deep state" is preventing him from doing anything against its wishes;
4) The deep state is also waging lawfare to try and ruin his administration;
5) Trump seemingly has been taken over by unelected people I increasingly dislike (his daughter and son-in-law, and various neocons) and has marginalized Bannon, the man who made much of his campaign.
The American Left is becoming unhinged, and violent. The Mainstream Media pours gas on the fire and even helps fan the flames. I honestly don't think the Conservative Right really knows how to deal with this kind of violent activism from the far Left. We were all raised with the idea that Free Speech is just that....Free. We were raised with the concept that your could disagree with your political foe, but be cordial and respectful of their opinion. That seems to be outdated and somewhat simplistic now. I am afraid that in the future, a proud Conservative could face violence when even trying to vote. Look at how many Trump supporters kept their beliefs low key until election day. No bumper stickers and few yard signs. These people were afraid of getting their vehicles vandalized and homes targeted.
Agree!
Gentlemen thank you.
Guns and taxes aren't an issue for me. Because if guns become illegal, I will have guns one way or the other. Taxes I pay people to make sure I pay as little as possible.
But I will be honest Trump when it came to Israel, has shown himself to be like all the others. Which today the WH has asked Israel to give more to the Palestinians. He has not and will not move the embassy.
But I needed to vent and hear every body's reply.
OH58D, I old enough to know better. 59 years old, retired once with the rank of Lt.Col.. Now working for money and not fun.
RetroRevolver77
05-26-17, 14:17
I voted for him and I voted for him in the Primary. He was the best candidate. I knew he would likely be a one term President because all the media outlets would go after him. I never thought he would win, I never thought he would even have the support of his own party. He bought us four years. If you aren't using this time wisely- then so be it.
sevenhelmet
05-26-17, 14:21
I understand this type of frustration well. For me, it's usually a sign that I've been paying too much attention to the mainstream media.
IMHO, the country works because people are willing to work hard behind the scenes. I know some amazingly talented people in government, who are out of the spotlight, and don't seek recognition for their efforts. Most of them would never seek office, simply because of the river of shit politicians drag each other through. They are the staffers, the deputies, the real experts that hold things together. Unfortunately, the talented folks are well outnumbered by the lazy and/or incompetent bureaucrats, and shortsighted politicians. What never gets said though, is how they keep on trucking, and things keep working despite the staggering lack of civil discourse. Yeah, there are roadblocks and red tape. But the day-to-day logistics are staggering, and a lot of things keep rolling, despite the politics going off the rails. Sensationalism and fear generates ratings. But corporations who seek ratings don't tell you what's really going on.
I think we'll get right to the brink before people wake up and realize how childish they've become, what with constantly trying to push their way of life on others and calling it "tolerance", etc. I work to keep my corner of the world clean, and take care of my family. I treat people with dignity, and expect the same in return. Sometimes I make mistakes, but I serve to the best of my ability, without being untrue to myself or compromising my integrity to get ahead. IMO, that's all anyone could ask.
I think Trump meant it when he said he was/is going to drain the swamp, and that scares the heck out of the establishment politicians, from both sides. He is not one of them as he showed from the beginning. He received very few supports from the republicans during the campaign. He barely got the endorsement from the Speaker of the House. Now that the media, liberals and whoever else is dumping the Russia stuff on him, he is getting little or no help from the GOP. He is up there by himself. I think some of those around him are in over their heads, they never realize how dirty and nasty the other side can get.
As has been mentioned, none of these guys are perfect. Most of the time, they aren't going to get done much of what they promise. That's how the thing is set up.
Regarding the wall...if it was going to be built, in the continuous, unbroken fashion most people think of (where possible), it would've been done already. Neither party REALLY wants it.
As far as Trump specifically, I mentioned it before...I got my expected "return on investment" with the Gorsuch appointment. Everything else is gravy.
If they get tax reform done, I'll be happier than a pig in shit (for you city-folk, that's damn happy).
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26inf, Obamacare was written long before Obama was elected...written by the Apollo Alliance years ago.
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I believe it was John Adams who said that our Constitution would only work with a virtuous people, and that lacking that it would no more restrain government than a net would a whale.
For some reason I am cursed with trying to understand where we are, how we got here, and where we are going--that firebell keeps ringing in the night. Perhaps the biggest thing I notice these days is the huge gap between common-sense natural law that everyone has a sense for, and Leviathan's determination to run our lives down to the smallest detail. ("You will be MADE to care.")
Nietzsche was a real piece of work, but he got some things right. The State really IS a "cold monster". It damn sure isn't your friend.
I have a lot to say about this presidency, and the last. With that said I'm not gonna get into it. I'll just leave these:
“We, the people are rightful masters of both Congress and the courts – not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” – Abraham Lincoln
“We need a revolution every 200 years, because all governments become stale and corrupt after 200 years.” – Ben Franklin
“What country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms.” – Thomas Jefferson
I am not even sure how to start this.
So I think I will go back in time before I address the current situation.
But first I am not a Republican nor a Democrat. I support the Constitution.
We had a President named Obama for 8 years and if you look at it he only really got 2 things done. Obama care and the Iran deal for which I will curse his name forever.
But we didn't lose our guns, and other than a huge abuse by federal agencies for political reasons. We survived these 8 years.
His supports didn't get Gitmo closed or a lot of other things they thought they were going to get.
Now we have a new President and he promised a bunch of things for his first 100 days. Some of which mattered a lot to me.
So here we get to my frustration, can we trust any person that goes to DC to keep their word?
Should I even get upset if they don't keep their word.
Is the correct approach to look at the system and understand how our forefathers structured everything was to make it all effed up from day one so that government could impose big radical changes .
I don't know if I am even doing a good job of communicating what I am feeling. Just thought I would throw out some ideas to get feed back on what others are feeling. To get others insight that may give me greater wisdom.
You can never trust any politician, under any circumstances, ever. It really is that simple.
That being said, how much of that 100 Day promise do you think Trump might've accomplished, if he wasn't suffering the most withering, concerted attack on a presidency we've seen in our entire lifetimes. Because not even Nixon had to fight his own party the way Trump has, and Nixon was actually guilty!
So take whatever expectations you had of Trump and temper them with that fact. I'm frustrated and upset that neither my agency nor the BATFE have been appointed leaders they've desperately needed for way too long. There are only so many Mad Dog Mattises to go around these days and when all day every day is spent putting out arson fires, it's tough to move the agenda forward. :(
horseman234
05-26-17, 17:28
When you get frustrated with Trump, just start repeating to yourself, "Hillary Clinton is not the president!", and you will feel better. :D
Trump was at one time just a candidate, much like Obama in 2007 and Bush in 2000. A candidate makes certain promises outside of the Office of President that they nor anyone before them could keep. That doesn't mean the candidate lied or the task was simply too large to handle or he spoke about which he knew nothing about. Now that Trump is president, there are things that he has to prioritize and other things that can be put on the back burner. He is the president so he does have a duty to the US and represents us and right now, he and his wife are traveling in and around Europe and the Middle East. The president is powerful but the supreme court, congress and the senate have almost equal power in regard to laws. Trump cannot undue things over night. Trump does not control anything but I do admire Trump for reaching out to the industrial industry in the US and talking with the leaders of those companies and creating a game plan. Some things have to happen first. The process is usually long and enduring. And when 50% of the US is against you and those who control the media are projecting doubt every minute, it is hard for a president.
I believe that it is inevitable that one day the US will have a generous amount of socialist that can take control of the white house, senate, house, and perhaps the courts: its already in our schools across the nation. I believe that one day, you and I will be prosecuted for not embracing other peoples lifestyles or rejecting them. I believe that one day, you will have to have a reason to use the internet and the internet will be censored- much like google, facebook, youtube, is doing now but it will be worse- it will all be in the name of progress. No one will come take our guns, but sure enough, one day they will be outlawed or regulated to a point where the gun is factory sealed with 3 shots- who knows. Trump is much better than any of the other candidates by far. I believe trump is a man of his word and he will come through- just give him time. The bible says that all leaders, even bad leaders are to be respected because god allowed them to the position of authority for his purpose. Trump has a full agenda, meetings, ceremonies, meetings, speeches, meetings, meetings so there is only 24 hours in a day. Trump may as well be the last of the great presidents. The next Obama will make you forget all about Obama.- I promise. Be happy and content with what we have. We don't know what could be worse because we have never had it bad. We have always survived, with our guns, money, freedoms and lived to tell about it and complained but never had we lost anything.
I know trump will be a great president.
I am not even sure how to start this.
So I think I will go back in time before I address the current situation.
But first I am not a Republican nor a Democrat. I support the Constitution.
We had a President named Obama for 8 years and if you look at it he only really got 2 things done. Obama care and the Iran deal for which I will curse his name forever.
But we didn't lose our guns, and other than a huge abuse by federal agencies for political reasons. We survived these 8 years.
His supports didn't get Gitmo closed or a lot of other things they thought they were going to get.
Now we have a new President and he promised a bunch of things for his first 100 days. Some of which mattered a lot to me.
So here we get to my frustration, can we trust any person that goes to DC to keep their word?
Should I even get upset if they don't keep their word.
Is the correct approach to look at the system and understand how our forefathers structured everything was to make it all effed up from day one so that government could impose big radical changes .
I don't know if I am even doing a good job of communicating what I am feeling. Just thought I would throw out some ideas to get feed back on what others are feeling. To get others insight that may give me greater wisdom.
If it helps, a LOT of the people who want to legislate away your rights are ALSO very frustrated.
Reagan was the best President of my lifetime but even he wasn't perfect. I could probably write a book about the things Reagan did that frustrated the crap out of me. You will never see your dream president, it's just not going to happen. Even with the best intentions, trying to do the right thing in Washington is like pissing in the wind.
Trump is getting opposition from his own party on issues they themselves have advocated for the last 8 years. But when it's time to put up or shut up, they are trying to play both sides of the fence.
The good news is despite a last hour Newtown ban and a flip by Harry Reid, Obama and Co. FAILED to jam through a reinstatement of the Clinton ban. If Hillary had won, we'd have to go through another 4-8 years of them trying everything they can to pass "sensible gun legislation" which translates into CA gun laws for everyone.
So that right there is worth the price of admission for Trump. We also got a SC justice who is acceptable and Gen. Mattis. It would be nice if he got some kind of genuine health care reform, but I'm not holding my breath. Despite having 8 years to draft an alternate, workable plan the GOP really isn't prepared to make this happen and have just thrown together last minute homework assignments.
Trump has also stood fast on the second amendment. For a former NY liberal to go to the NRA convention and declare a solid stance on guns is pretty much as good as it gets.
Now here is the tough part. Trump is going to fail to get some of the things he wants. Trump is also going to compromise some issues where he considers something is better than nothing. And he's probably going to support some issue that some of us will completely disagree with.
He is not going to be the greatest president we've ever seen and honestly that person wasn't even in the primaries. Even if Rand Paul was president, he's do some things wrong and fail to accomplish some other things.
So it's basically the same old drill. Get on the phones and tell your local reps and senators what you support and give them a lot of grief about what you don't support. We don't really have representative government, we have guys who sometimes represent us if we threaten to vote them out of office hard enough.
George Bush (43) did so many things that pissed me off I don't know where to start. Basically I consider him to be an incompetent D student president who bumbled through 8 years and created a hell of a mess. But I still would prefer that to 4 years of Gore or Kerry.
Straight Shooter
05-27-17, 04:55
ONLY reasons I haven't just said F it again...is because 1. He HAS already done several good things, right off the git-go. 2. Boy, when he talks to a crowd & is on fire- aint nothing like him. 3. He is & has & will continue until whenever his final day in office ends- to be the subject of an assault unlike anything seen since the inception of this country. The rotten assed 5th column of a media we have here has surpassed & broken ALL rules set heretofore. They will continue to amaze as they conceive new ways to humiliate and to embarrass him.
He & WE are at war with these mofackas..the media. I utterly loathe them...FOX included & especially. I have to read 3-4 sources of info daily to try to get even a faint idea of whats going on now. President Trump understands this better than any.
But I do have concerns & questions. WHERE IS THE 2A stuff at, sir?
Moose-Knuckle
05-27-17, 05:39
Yoni, I have to ask how did it make you feel to see Trump visit the Kotel?
Rand Paul was "my guy", then it was Ted Cruz.
I only voted for Trump because he is not Hillary.
On his worst day, Trump is an infinity better than Hillary on her very best.
Also, he is the most hated POTUS since Reagan. We are witnessing the first presidential political assassination of a sitting US president by the fourth estate. I will be surprised if he can accomplish even a third of the things he was elected to do. Every step is a rabid junkyard dog fight.
Stacking the SCOTUS with Conservatives will be his legacy.
Ginsburg = tick-tock . . . tick-tock.
It is difficult to get your agenda moved ahead when the opposing party, and YOUR OWN PARTY are against you. Both Democrats, and many Republican (establishment) want the big government, status quo to remain, and even grow. The Constitution is just an obstacle to them. The original concept for this country died in 1861. In some respects, it has been going downhill ever since, but there is still no better place to be. All the other countries are WORSE.
Essentially we have one political party using two different names for conveniences' sake.
Add to that the "PBS" (Public Babysitting Service) aka public school system helping our kids to think correctly and love government passionately. As long as those big yellow busses keep rolling every morning, we keep losing ground.
I really have to get my soma pill prescription renewed, stat.
It is difficult to get your agenda moved ahead when the opposing party, and YOUR OWN PARTY are against you. Both Democrats, and many Republican (establishment) want the big government, status quo to remain, and even grow. The Constitution is just an obstacle to them. The original concept for this country died in 1861. In some respects, it has been going downhill ever since, but there is still no better place to be. All the other countries are WORSE.
He is fighting against the opposition party, his party, the media, the intel folks and Possibly people with in his own circle. If he can lock down the leaks or slow them down things would be much better.
You guys act like Trump is the long good guy fighting the good fight. Truth is a spoiled little rich kid who is used to having his way. He's a NY liberal who supported Clinton, voted Obama, and suddenly decided he was "republican" when it afforded him a chance to be president. He's been dabbling in the concept of being president since the 90s. He's all about the ego and the fame. That's all it's ever been about, which is precisely why his position changes to suit the audience he's speaking to. He's never intended to keep promises or become the bastion of conservatism.
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You guys act like Trump is the long good guy fighting the good fight. Truth is a spoiled little rich kid who is used to having his way. He's a NY liberal who supported Clinton, voted Obama, and suddenly decided he was "republican" when it afforded him a chance to be president. He's been dabbling in the concept of being president since the 90s. He's all about the ego and the fame. That's all it's ever been about, which is precisely why his position changes to suit the audience he's speaking to. He's never intended to keep promises or become the bastion of conservatism.
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And he is still a better horse on which to bet than Hillary.
You guys act like Trump is the long good guy fighting the good fight. Truth is a spoiled little rich kid who is used to having his way. He's a NY liberal who supported Clinton, voted Obama, and suddenly decided he was "republican" when it afforded him a chance to be president. He's been dabbling in the concept of being president since the 90s. He's all about the ego and the fame. That's all it's ever been about, which is precisely why his position changes to suit the audience he's speaking to. He's never intended to keep promises or become the bastion of conservatism.
So did he appoint another Ginsberg, Sotomayor, or Kagan to the Supreme Court when he had the chance, or did he appoint a Constitutionalist?
So did he appoint another Ginsberg, Sotomayor, or Kagan to the Supreme Court when he had the chance, or did he appoint a Constitutionalist?
I think you missed the point, buddy. You're free to think he's the best thing since sliced bread. It's fine if your memory is short, but it's all a game.
I invite you to hold your breath for a wall, 0bamacare repleal, tax cuts, etc.
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...public school system helping our kids to think correctly and love government passionately. As long as those big yellow busses keep rolling every morning, we keep losing ground...
As a public school teacher, whenever I see or hear statements such as this, I wonder where the writer/speaker got their information. My kids never attended a school (and they attended many) like the one you describe, and I don't teach at one.
During the election if any of my students stated support for either the pathological liar or the bloviating narcissist I'd take the opposing position and make them defend their views.
If your school is indoctrinating students into a political ideology (right or left), then I'd suggest you run for your local school board.
Averageman
05-27-17, 17:40
As a public school teacher, whenever I see or hear statements such as this, I wonder where the writer/speaker got their information. My kids never attended a school (and they attended many) like the one you describe, and I don't teach at one.
During the election if any of my students stated support for either the pathological liar or the bloviating narcissist I'd take the opposing position and make them defend their views.
If your school is indoctrinating students into a political ideology (right or left), then I'd suggest you run for your local school board.
I feel like there is an overabundance of liberal socialists in Education.
I've felt like that ever since I attended my own High School as a Freshman and now as a Fifty something adult, I've had that confirmed many, many times.
You may not feel that way, you may not be experiencing it, but a lot of people see it. From the lack of curriculum that reinforces the greatness of America, such as Citizenship, Government and History to the "mainstreaming" of kids who have no business inside the same classrooms as yours, it's changed significantly and for the worse.
We've on the whole relegated the raising of our Children to a broken system that is raising consecutively weaker generations.
Sorry buddy, I respect what you've done and what you do, but not everyone sees public education as a big winner.
I feel like there is an overabundance of liberal socialists in Education.
I've felt like that ever since I attended my own High School as a Freshman and now as a Fifty something adult, I've had that confirmed many, many times.
You may not feel that way, you may not be experiencing it, but a lot of people see it. From the lack of curriculum that reinforces the greatness of America, such as Citizenship, Government and History to the "mainstreaming" of kids who have no business inside the same classrooms as yours, it's changed significantly and for the worse.
We've on the whole relegated the raising of our Children to a broken system that is raising consecutively weaker generations.
Sorry buddy, I respect what you've done and what you do, but not everyone sees public education as a big winner.
I certainly don't see it as a "big winner"; it has huge problems. I just don't see it as the ruination of our nation.
The biggest problems in education today have little to do with indoctrination. In my *experience* the biggest problems are:
- Parents who either won't teach their kids personal responsibility or don't think education has any real value.
- Teachers who aren't competent, either because they aren't expert in their assigned subject or can't manage their little darlings.
The first problem is far bigger than the second. Those big yellow buses are a problem, but not because of where they're taking them; it's the place they're bringing kids back too that is the larger issue.
My 8 YO grandson, who is all boy, was told that the goal in his school is "compliance".
To HELL with that. And if you want to know why families are unhappy with public schools just read the daily accounts of teacher misbehavior.
And in your spare time look up Antonio Gramsci and "the long march through the institutions".
... And if you want to know why families are unhappy with public schools just read the daily accounts of teacher misbehavior.
Want to trade "misbehaving teacher" (of which I agree there are too many) stories and tales of incompetent parents?
I could tell you of the parent who called me last month...drunk...at 11AM...to cuss me out for having the temerity to question her daughter about her grades. Or the child who told me a couple of weeks ago how much it "sucks having both parents in jail." Or the child who was terrified that his sexually abusive father had skipped bail before he could go to trial.
Public schools (and teachers) are a convenient target, but there is plenty of blame to go around. I wonder how many of the people who complain have ever attended a single school board meeting?
Teaching is extraordinarily challenging profession. If it weren't for the huge financial rewards, I wouldn't do it.
Yoni, I have to ask how did it make you feel to see Trump visit the Kotel?
I have no problem with the President going to the Kotel. He wants to make a big thing about being the first sitting President to go to the Kotel.
My problem is his meetings with Abbas both in the white house and then in Beit Lechem. Abbas wrote his PhD calling the holocaust a fraud. He pays terrorist sitting in our jails for murder. Some of which will get 2 to 3 million dollars during the term in jail. He names streets and buildings after terrorist that murdered Jews.
I have an even bigger problem that he is not a man of his word. He said the embassy was going to be moved to Jerusalem, now he says not now. I have a problem that he is pushing Israel to once again give things to the Palis.
If he went to the Kotel, moved the embassy, and said the USA will never back the creation of a terrorist state in Judea and Samaria (so called west bank). Then I would love him.
Want to trade "misbehaving teacher" (of which I agree there are too many) stories and tales of incompetent parents?
I could tell you of the parent who called me last month...drunk...at 11AM...to cuss me out for having the temerity to question her daughter about her grades. Or the child who told me a couple of weeks ago how much it "sucks having both parents in jail." Or the child who was terrified that his sexually abusive father had skipped bail before he could go to trial.
Public schools (and teachers) are a convenient target, but there is plenty of blame to go around. I wonder how many of the people who complain have ever attended a single school board meeting?
Teaching is NOT an extraordinarily challenging profession. If it weren't for the huge financial rewards, I wouldn't do it.
Isn't that what you meant to say with the [sarcasm]?
My wife has two master's degrees plus a year of specialized training and has always made roughly half what I made. She's been eligible to retire for two years and we are set up so that she could without harming us financially. 'Nope, I love my job, as long as your healthy I'm going to work with my kids.' (I'm 7 years older and retired last year @ 62).
It ain't the money.
I echo your 'I wonder how many of the people who complain have ever attended a single school board meeting?' sentiment.
When I hear folks say 'they need to put prayer back in school' I always ask them - 'Has your kid ever not been allowed to pray?' 'If you want prayer in schools, you need to raise your kids to stand up and pray.' One of mine does just that.
The point of all that is this: It should be up to the parents to raise Christian children that ask the Lord's Blessing over their day, not the teachers. You know you've done it right when you walk in on your kid eating a snack and find them sitting alone at the table with their head bowed before they lay into the ramen noodles or mac and cheese. Parents are supposed to lay that groundwork, not teachers.
Isn't that what you meant to say with the [sarcasm]?
Actually, no. The sarcasm tags frame the "financial rewards" sentence. The profession is extremely challenging; every day is a new adventure. To be honest, I don't know how 22 year-olds with no life experience do it--which probably explains the high number of new teachers that leave the profession in their first three years.
It ain't the money.
You got that right. It's all about the kids. My wife and are are reasonably frugal, and we're fortunate that my military retirement provides sufficient flexibility for me to teach instead of chasing contracting gigs.
And you're absolutely right. It shouldn't be my job to shape any child's core beliefs. My "kids" are already grown.
teaching our founding fathers were racist slave owners and we as a country need to apologize
teaching if you are white you are privileged
its about teaching gay is good and you should go experiment and pick up birth control on the way out
seems every week or more now teachers are molesting our school children and many here even are like COOl lucky kid !
and the list goes on and on and this has happened over and over all over our country
there are a few teachers that are not liberal but the majority are liberal !! by something like %90+
Moose-Knuckle
05-28-17, 02:39
I have no problem with the President going to the Kotel. He wants to make a big thing about being the first sitting President to go to the Kotel.
My problem is his meetings with Abbas both in the white house and then in Beit Lechem. Abbas wrote his PhD calling the holocaust a fraud. He pays terrorist sitting in our jails for murder. Some of which will get 2 to 3 million dollars during the term in jail. He names streets and buildings after terrorist that murdered Jews.
I have an even bigger problem that he is not a man of his word. He said the embassy was going to be moved to Jerusalem, now he says not now. I have a problem that he is pushing Israel to once again give things to the Palis.
If he went to the Kotel, moved the embassy, and said the USA will never back the creation of a terrorist state in Judea and Samaria (so called west bank). Then I would love him.
Appreciate your insight.
His visit to the Kotel seemed to piss all the right people off, IMHO.
Trump is 100% better than Hillary would have been.
I need to thank G-D we were blessed with the way the election went. With just about everyone gunning for him, if he appoints 1 more justice, I am happy.
Today Abbas rejected Trumps peace efforts, so once again we will be saved by our enemy being dumb.
Regarding the teaching that our fore fathers were slave owners, and this some how takes away their greatness is just a strategy to tear the country away from our roots.
My family was involved in the slave trade, and at the time of the war they owned 347 slaves. My parents took me as a very small child to D.C. to hear the I have a Dream speech. I have built medical clinics out in the middle of Africa. I pay a good wage to my employees in the Dominican Republic and instituted a system of profit sharing that is based on performance.
In my synagogue we have 2 black gentlemen that converted. One is an American black and the other is an African. They are both professionals one lawyer and one accountant. ( got to be a joke in there some where that even our converts become lawyers and accountants) We were talking one day and I told the American black guy that he and his wife need to thank G-D every day that someone brought their families from Africa as slaves because as a result in of that he has a great life with none of the African life and death realities. He started to get a little upset but then the African guy told him, I was 100% correct. He doesn't have to worry about, malaria, Ebola, river blindness, etc. The African guy continued because he goes back to visit family all the time in Africa that even with them being wealthy they have family members die in situations that would never happen in the USA.
G-D Bless this great country.
I honestly don't think the Conservative Right really knows how to deal with this kind of violent activism from the far Left.
Actually, I think they do. It's just not time to deal with it yet.
USA!!!!
I get frustrated too, but if anyone thought that the swamp creatures weren't going to fight back... We all know that the swamp was full of alligators and they are not going to go quietly. They are not going quietly. The liberal progressives have deeply infiltrated both parties. They are digging in and doubling down. The thing about the progressives, is they all stick together.
IMHO, all of the constant distraction, yes it is just a distraction, is to detract from all of the great things that our new president has done in such a short time.
I stand behind my president 100%. I know that he's not going to fulfill all of his campaign promises, because that's just how crap works in Washington. We've achieved a total gridlock with an even 5050 split between left and right. The fact that our president is able to do anything right now, speaks volumes about his leadership.
We simply have to stay strong, and support our leader. He will get it done, even with all of the distractions going on right now. They alt-left is hoping they can sling enough mud and get people like us to simply back down from exhaustion.
Trump is NOT perfect, but neither was Reagan. Right now, he is the man, and I support him.
Forgive the grammar and typos, I'm on my phone in a hurry.
I play video games online and often I hear folks from Europe smack talk trump ?
they ask me my thought I say better him than options at least he will maybe make us strong again !
then they start slamming the US
remind them of WWII and they say we did nothing to help Europe !!!! some even say we started that war !!
that is the current world view and education sadly
for sure the massive brain washing in schools and gov and lying about stats is a huge part
mkmckinley
05-28-17, 16:43
These summaries cleared things up for me a bit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig_qpNfXHIU
USA!!!!
I get frustrated too, but if anyone thought that the swamp creatures weren't going to fight back... We all know that the swamp was full of alligators and they are not going to go quietly. They are not going quietly. The liberal progressives have deeply infiltrated both parties. They are digging in and doubling down. The thing about the progressives, is they all stick together.
IMHO, all of the constant distraction, yes it is just a distraction, is to detract from all of the great things that our new president has done in such a short time.
I stand behind my president 100%. I know that he's not going to fulfill all of his campaign promises, because that's just how crap works in Washington. We've achieved a total gridlock with an even 5050 split between left and right. The fact that our president is able to do anything right now, speaks volumes about his leadership.
We simply have to stay strong, and support our leader. He will get it done, even with all of the distractions going on right now. They alt-left is hoping they can sling enough mud and get people like us to simply back down from exhaustion.
Trump is NOT perfect, but neither was Reagan. Right now, he is the man, and I support him.
Forgive the grammar and typos, I'm on my phone in a hurry.
Do you really believe he has done anything close to draining the swamp? As I see it, he has placed corporate oligarchs into positions of power and embraced nepotism. Trumps definition of "drain the swamp" seems to be replace the previous swamp critters with new swamp critters.
Better than Hillary for certain; by a very large margin. But taking down the political oligarchy he is not.
I simply want appointment of a few more conservative SCOTUS justices, appointment of many conservative lower court judges, to see 925(d)(3) finally go away, cut taxes for everyone, massive reforms to all entitlements, and don't F up the economy.
Cagemonkey
05-29-17, 12:15
http://phibetaiota.net/unrig/
http://phibetaiota.net/unrig/
I read that pretty quickly, so forgive me. However, if they think that you can unite the 70% of non-affiliated voters under one umbrella, it ain't happening. There are simply too many non-registered Rebublican right leaning people (myself included) that would never vote for a left leaning independent if it meant increasing funding for abortions or losing gun rights. There aren't too many left leaning independents that are going to vote for national reciprocity for concealed carry, or the defunding of Planned Parenthood.
I do agree that the current mess in D.C. is not in our best interest, but I cannot fathom how we can fix it either.
Cagemonkey
05-29-17, 19:22
I read that pretty quickly, so forgive me. However, if they think that you can unite the 70% of non-affiliated voters under one umbrella, it ain't happening. There are simply too many non-registered Rebublican right leaning people (myself included) that would never vote for a left leaning independent if it meant increasing funding for abortions or losing gun rights. There aren't too many left leaning independents that are going to vote for national reciprocity for concealed carry, or the defunding of Planned Parenthood.
I do agree that the current mess in D.C. is not in our best interest, but I cannot fathom how we can fix it either.You make a good point. The Issue is agreeing to stay away from Divisive Issues and concentrate on the bigger picture of uniting against the Deep State and its Rothschild/City of London and Vatican bosses.
You make a good point. The Issue is agreeing to stay away from Divisive Issues and concentrate on the bigger picture of uniting against the Deep State and its Rothschild/City of London and Vatican bosses.
OK... so we stay away from the "divisive" issues and get this fantasy congress elected.. then what? Are the left leaning people who get elected and sign on to this pledge outlined in the link going to give up taking my money and giving to people who don't deserve it? Are they going to continue to try and restrict my 2nd Amendment rights? Are they even going to consider following the Constitution? I highly doubt it. Will they even accept someone like me that believes in freedom, or do I have to agree to their version of freedom?
You can wipe the Deep State/London/Vatican (if they exist) from the earth and the void will get filled with other nefarious characters bent on removing your freedom.
Cagemonkey
05-29-17, 21:02
OK... so we stay away from the "divisive" issues and get this fantasy congress elected.. then what? Are the left leaning people who get elected and sign on to this pledge outlined in the link going to give up taking my money and giving to people who don't deserve it? Are they going to continue to try and restrict my 2nd Amendment rights? Are they even going to consider following the Constitution? I highly doubt it. Will they even accept someone like me that believes in freedom, or do I have to agree to their version of freedom?
You can wipe the Deep State/London/Vatican (if they exist) from the earth and the void will get filled with other nefarious characters bent on removing your freedom.Not too many choices left. The Corrupt System of Blackmailed and Bribed Criminals isn't going to do anything to protect freedom. If they had their way Killary would be in office Starting WW3 and taking our Liberties and Guns. Things are getting to the point where the advancement of weapons technology available to the State is going to make resistance near suicide, especially with the psychopaths they have at the helm. The goal is to get back to the Constitution. Most of the hard core Lefty Ideologues aren't really part of the majority. Are you ready to feed the Tree of Liberty with the blood of Patriots and Tyrants? Things are getting closer, provided the Ruling Psychopaths don't start WW3 and nuke the place. We're starting to run out of options and the clock is ticking.
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