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rocsteady
06-07-17, 10:08
Anyone know anything about this guy? Christopher Wray, former legal representative for Chris Christie in the Bridgegate deal

Averageman
06-07-17, 10:29
Anyone know anything about this guy? Christopher Wray, former legal representative for Chris Christie in the Bridgegate deal

Do you really think that based upon who he has represented, Christie, anyone in the media will have anything at all to say that isn't biased?
I'm pretty sure this is going to be heavily contested.

rocsteady
06-07-17, 10:37
Do you really think that based upon who he has represented, Christie, anyone in the media will have anything at all to say that isn't biased?
I'm pretty sure this is going to be heavily contested.

Of course not, that's why I was hoping somebody from the Forum had a more personal dealing with him at some point or another. I can pretty much guess what we're going to get from the MSM.

Whiskey_Bravo
06-07-17, 10:40
I am just going to go into this assuming Wray has a weekly dinner appointment with Russian spies, has visited Putin's estates for vacation, owns stock in Russian owned companies, and loves Russian vodka.

Digital_Damage
06-07-17, 10:48
Not a good choice. It will be contested from both sides, while they have not been illegal the guy has a history of questionable ethics choices. He was sidelined by Bush for some shady choices.

Big A
06-07-17, 12:19
Anyone know anything about this guy? Christopher Wray, former legal representative for Chris Christie in the Bridgegate deal

I already don't like him...

26 Inf
06-07-17, 12:28
I already don't like him...

I don't have a problem with Christopher Wray, other than the fact that I believed the FBI needed to have their next director come from within. But, then again nobody asked me.

Digital_Damage
06-07-17, 19:29
I don't have a problem with Christopher Wray, other than the fact that I believed the FBI needed to have their next director come from within. But, then again nobody asked me.

Yep... Agree.

Some good people wanting to do the right thing are available. But it is politics as usual.

jpmuscle
06-07-17, 20:34
That notion can certainly go both ways IMO. Depends on the individual being considered.

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Moose-Knuckle
06-08-17, 05:05
That notion can certainly go both ways IMO. Depends on the individual being considered.

Yup.

I'm glad POTUS went with an outsider considering the Obama era insiders running amok all over every department to include the DoJ.

Todd.K
06-08-17, 10:45
Yep... Agree.

Some good people wanting to do the right thing are available. But it is politics as usual.

You must be talking about one of the good people who resigned over the Hillary "investigation"?

Digital_Damage
06-08-17, 10:57
You must be talking about one of the good people who resigned over the Hillary "investigation"?

there are some good people that were involved in that. There are good people all over the agency.

Averageman
06-08-17, 11:43
Bad idea, appoint from within for sure.
We really don't need someone beholden to or afraid of telling the POTUS "hold up, get the Attorney General in here, we can't have this conversation without a third party in the room."
Comey may have done a lot of good things, but when it came to being intimidated by the POTUS, he nutted up like a sixteen year old girl and apparently nearly fainted.
He did though report the entire thing in his Diary.

We need someone unbiased by political party from within the FBI who hates the spot light, is candid, yet out spoken under direct pressure.

ramairthree
06-08-17, 12:16
The problem with jobs like these is you rarely get the guy who started on the ground floor, put in some solid work,
Knows it's about the job, not themselves, briefs seniors what they need to hear, not what they want to hear, does the right thing, and lets the chips fall where they may.
It also helps if they are in a situation where they will do just fine, maybe even better, if they get shit canned.

Todd.K
06-08-17, 12:57
He did though report the entire thing in his Diary.

It came out today he had a meeting with other senior officials at the FBI. Apparently none of them did anything either.

Any senior leadership that didn't resign over the Clinton investigation needs to go, not get promoted.

26 Inf
06-08-17, 13:02
Yup.

I'm glad POTUS went with an outsider considering the Obama era insiders running amok all over every department to include the DoJ.

My thoughts were that a veteran agent who is universally respected with enough experience to be considered would have served in both the Bush and Obama administrations and be loyal to the riule of law, not the politics of the moment.

Maybe that isn't what you are going for, but that is the way I would drive it.

Digital_Damage
06-08-17, 13:03
Bad idea, appoint from within for sure.
We really don't need someone beholden to or afraid of telling the POTUS "hold up, get the Attorney General in here, we can't have this conversation without a third party in the room."
Comey may have done a lot of good things, but when it came to being intimidated by the POTUS, he nutted up like a sixteen year old girl and apparently nearly fainted.
He did though report the entire thing in his Diary.

We need someone unbiased by political party from within the FBI who hates the spot light, is candid, yet out spoken under direct pressure.

Apparently he did not know what was going to happen, taken off guard. He demanded to Sessions later that he always be present. Sessions then recused himself and stated he would have no part in it.

He had no options but to start taking notes and gave it to his staff and their general counsel immediately after.

Moose-Knuckle
06-08-17, 13:11
My thoughts were that a veteran agent who is universally respected with enough experience to be considered would have served in both the Bush and Obama administrations and be loyal to the riule of law, not the politics of the moment.

Maybe that isn't what you are going for, but that is the way I would drive it.

See ramairthree's comment above.

If we could get a ground floor guy or gal who did their time and worked their way up on merit I'd be all for it, but anyone even close to the top of the food chain of the alphabet agencies are politically connected.

Whiskey_Bravo
06-08-17, 13:21
Apparently he did not know what was going to happen, taken off guard. He demanded to Sessions later that he always be present. Sessions then recused himself and stated he would have no part in it.

He had no options but to start taking notes and gave it to his staff and their general counsel immediately after.


I think you may be giving Comey too much credit. I have a very strong feeling he isn't the innocent boy scout that was intimidated by Trump that he was trying to make himself out to be. I would venture to guess he was doing his best to reel Trump in and catch him saying something saying he shouldn't, that's why he didn't demand Sessions be present or resign, but instead kept secret memos that he later leaked.

Averageman
06-08-17, 13:38
I think you may be giving Comey too much credit. I have a very strong feeling he isn't the innocent boy scout that was intimidated by Trump that he was trying to make himself out to be. I would venture to guess he was doing his best to reel Trump in and catch him saying something saying he shouldn't, that's why he didn't demand Sessions be present or resign, but instead kept secret memos that he later leaked.

I'm beginning to feel Whiskey Bravo is right.
Once Comey started down this road what could Sessions do but warn Trump and recuse himself? The legal "Genie" was already out of the bottle and Sessions had heard too much and no one know too much of what.

Digital_Damage
06-08-17, 13:38
I think you may be giving Comey too much credit. I have a very strong feeling he isn't the innocent boy scout that was intimidated by Trump that he was trying to make himself out to be. I would venture to guess he was doing his best to reel Trump in and catch him saying something saying he shouldn't, that's why he didn't demand Sessions be present or resign, but instead kept secret memos that he later leaked.

????

He did demand Sessions to be present during future meetings, Sessions recused himself instead.

Averageman
06-08-17, 14:39
????

He did demand Sessions to be present during future meetings, Sessions recused himself instead.

Who knows what Comey said to Sessions, essentially just Sessions and Comey.
Something Comey said to Sessions made him recuse himself and appoint his Deputy Attorney General. There are times when that is the right move, this might have been one of them.
Comey has had a bit of time to cool down and rethink the sum of the entire series of events. His conclusions and demeanor now may be far different than what they were at the time these events took place.
I will guarantee that what he is saying now is different from what he said to Sessions at the time these things were happening.
Imagine someone comes in to your office and makes a rather strange accusation, during his narrative he directly or indirectly implicates your words or deeds to be a part of those circumstances...
I.E. "You left me in that office alone with him so that he could threaten my job if I wasn't loyal and let Flynn off of the Hook."
Kinda makes you go Hmmm.

Digital_Damage
06-08-17, 15:19
Who knows what Comey said to Sessions, essentially just Sessions and Comey.
Something Comey said to Sessions made him recuse himself and appoint his Deputy Attorney General. There are times when that is the right move, this might have been one of them.
Comey has had a bit of time to cool down and rethink the sum of the entire series of events. His conclusions and demeanor now may be far different than what they were at the time these events took place.
I will guarantee that what he is saying now is different from what he said to Sessions at the time these things were happening.
Imagine someone comes in to your office and makes a rather strange accusation, during his narrative he directly or indirectly implicates your words or deeds to be a part of those circumstances...
I.E. "You left me in that office alone with him so that he could threaten my job if I wasn't loyal and let Flynn off of the Hook."
Kinda makes you go Hmmm.

You can't guarantee anything, that is just pure speculation. Sessions would have to testify to counter Comey, I don't see that happening.

TAZ
06-08-17, 16:26
You guys should check USAToday headlines about Wray and Russian connections. Didn't take long to start.

All I have to say: Another effing lawyer heading up a police organization. Last I checked the I in FBI stood for investigation not I-prosecution. Would it be that strange to have an experienced investigator head the FBI and leave the lawyering where lawyering belongs??

Digital_Damage
06-08-17, 16:30
You guys should check USAToday headlines about Wray and Russian connections. Didn't take long to start.

All I have to say: Another effing lawyer heading up a police organization. Last I checked the I in FBI stood for investigation not I-prosecution. Would it be that strange to have an experienced investigator head the FBI and leave the lawyering where lawyering belongs??

I think everyone can agree with that.

I just checked out the story... much about nothing that firm is Huge I'm sure you could link it to North Korea too in some way.

Spiffums
06-09-17, 21:32
I am just going to go into this assuming Wray has a weekly dinner appointment with Russian spies, has visited Putin's estates for vacation, owns stock in Russian owned companies, and loves Russian vodka.

And has a favorite Russian escort that he sees twice a week.