View Full Version : Ceramic coated bore & Defender D-ring "Force multiplier"
Littlelebowski
10-02-08, 11:57
I can't make this up (http://www.nextgenerationarms.com/products/guns/jc382pat.html). All yours for only $1425!
Littlelebowski
10-02-08, 11:59
With almost 3 years of research and development into our system of components we have finally built a series of rifles that can be rivaled by no other AR system available. A completely oil less rifles that runs dry no matter how many rounds are put through it. A Rifle with 60% less recoil than its predecessors, and above all a rifle that can not only stand the test of intense combat, extreme environment but can withstand the test of time itself.
Designed to run dry, after break in period. Do not use oil for optimum performance. The use of oil has been found, by Next Generation Arms, to promote system failure in the AR design.
With almost 3 years of research and development into our system of components we have finally built a series of rifles that can be rivaled by no other AR system available. A completely oil less rifles that runs dry no matter how many rounds are put through it. A Rifle with 60% less recoil than its predecessors, and above all a rifle that can not only stand the test of intense combat, extreme environment but can withstand the test of time itself.
Designed to run dry, after break in period. Do not use oil for optimum performance. The use of oil has been found, by Next Generation Arms, to promote system failure in the AR design.
LMFAO!!!!
I was looking for a laugh but didn't expect this good!
Which extreme environment? Extremely stupid.
You could make that stuff up, although it would give you a headache...
Nice trademark violation on the FSC, BTW.
buckshot1220
10-02-08, 17:35
Are they saying that they are ceramic coating the internal of the upper/lower receiver as well?
Littlelebowski
10-02-08, 17:53
Are they saying that they are ceramic coating the internal of the upper/lower receiver as well?
Sounds like it. Can anybody here trace the lineage of their build?
Robb Jensen
10-02-08, 18:17
Dumbasses....they have the Gen 2 KNS pins in backwards ! :p
RogerinTPA
10-02-08, 18:25
They sound like the nanolube dude!:p
The ceramic bore treatment is the 'new' thing from Otis (cleaning cable guys).
Joe_Friday
10-02-08, 18:46
Did anyone check out the vids? :rolleyes:
HighSpeedDreams
10-02-08, 18:54
For only $2187, I can get the CC19 Advanced Carbine.
Littlelebowski
10-02-08, 19:55
Otis completely lost my business when they started selling that snake oil.
Since the AR is DI, what carries away the crud in their dry lube weapons?
My local funshop has started carrying Next Gen. Ar's. Their demo gun has approx. 5,000 rounds w/o cleaning and w/o oil/lube. Mind you I don't know if that was all indoor range rounds or outdoor down and in the dirt rounds, but 5k none the less. They say they have been moving them pretty fast. Time will tell to make me a believer.
Anybody else tired of the word "Proprietary"??? The industry's most overused buzz word.
marylandsniper
10-03-08, 01:09
GOT TO LOVE A FREE MARKET ECONOMY.
fabulous45s
10-03-08, 09:31
I especially like the CAA grip. Nice touch!
Otis completely lost my business when they started selling that snake oil.
Since the AR is DI, what carries away the crud in their dry lube weapons?
The BCG and Bolt are all treated with the ceramic coating and are pretty slick. I'm guessing since carbon/fouling doesn't stick to it, it all just gets burned off or ran out the barrell with the next round(s). There are only so many exits on an AR.
The BCG/Bolt I saw was a little dirty and had 1,000 rounds of no oil or cleaning. The stuff on it wiped off easily with my hand. Looked like nothing more than smudges.
Just what i saw, not an owner or believer.
Littlelebowski
10-03-08, 11:25
Still trying to figure out what this offers over a gas piston AR for the same prices or less......:rolleyes:
Parabellum9x19mm
10-04-08, 00:16
isn't it obvious LL?
you obviously want a heavy 1/9 barrel in a patrol carbine.
and its the highest possible grade barrel steel at 4140
and of course after you hand lap that barrel, you want to coat it in nano ceramic diamond pixie goo.
and the KNS pins are backwards because um its "Extreme", obviously.
and who doesn't run their AR bone dry?
seriously tho, its cool that they have an optional stainless Noveske barrel, but that makes it a bit less of an "Extreme Environment" barrel, unless its IonBonded or something, which im sure it isnt.
Otis themselves say that you need heat and pressure of firing rounds and applying three different treatments of the stuff to work. so exactly how do they coat the inside of the upper?. wouldnt have enough pressure, even if this shit did really work. pressure inside the UR is nowhere close to that of the bore, obviously.
Of course, all the pics at the top of the website show GIs with normal rifles. Not their special proprietary one...
Littlelebowski
10-06-08, 20:13
They've got some guy posting on a few forums for them.
Check it out at TOS (http://74.125.45.104/search?q=cache:s9RKgdHJ1rcJ:www.ar15.com/lite/topic.html%3Fb%3D8%26f%3D15%26t%3D307132+%22next+generation+arms%22&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=12&gl=us&client=firefox-a)
Parabellum9x19mm
10-06-08, 20:35
KNS pins were backwards on that one too!!!!
gotta love the Dremel M4 ramps :rolleyes:
Robb Jensen
10-06-08, 20:48
The only advice to any potential buyer of those rifles is "If you're gonna be dumb you gotta be tough!" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3sCNRnn7GA&feature=related)
Anybody else tired of the word "Proprietary"??? The industry's most overused buzz word.
I disagree, extreme (and all of its spelling variants) is the most overused buzzword.
Robb Jensen
10-06-08, 21:15
I disagree, extreme (and all of its spelling variants) is the most overused buzzword.
I disagree, 'Tactical' has you both beat! ;)
Check out tactical sniper dudes awesome sniper mojo:
http://www.nextgenerationarms.com/gallery/gallery.html
He's shooting right handed off of his left shoulder.
http://www.nextgenerationarms.com/images/NGA-Gallery-1.gif
Check out tactical sniper dudes awesome sniper mojo:
http://www.nextgenerationarms.com/gallery/gallery.html
He's shooting right handed off of his left shoulder.
http://www.nextgenerationarms.com/images/NGA-Gallery-1.gif
But, wait, he can't be tactical....the woodland camo is so passe...
The real tactical operators are wearing ACU, of course.
Woodland camo is for mall ninjas on a surplus store budget.
Littlelebowski
10-07-08, 06:57
I was going to mention the freaking awful Dremel job.
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