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SteyrAUG
08-16-17, 17:07
It's no secret I am a fan of movies and old tv shows. This includes B movies, schlock films from the 60s and 70s and all kinds of MST3K fodder. But there are some even I never expected to develop a fondness for.

1. The Greatest American Hero (1981-1983) - Part of this is of course nostalgia, this was a fun show when I was a young teen. The theme "Believe it or not" is possibly one of the greatest earbugs known to man, becoming even more popular than the show itself. The goofball schoolteacher turned superhero in training appealed to the geeky kid in all of us. Connie Sellecca was pretty hot too. Been watching this one on DVD lately and it's still fun, only the music for montage elements of each show are hard to take, it's really awful country music made for TV with extra cheese.

2. Grease (1978) - I got drug to this one as a kid by my parents when it first came out. I suffered through an "old people" film at the time even though I thought the main theme was pretty cool. I actually bought the soundtrack on cassette tape and the summer of 78 when I built a tree house out of wooden pallets my friends and I did the construction to Grease by Frankie Valli. A few years later when this became a cable TV regular I became a fan due to a newfound interest in Olivia Newton John and Dinah Manoff. And while she was a bit old to play a high school kid, Stockard Channing singing "There are worse things I could do" would hardly have been the worst thing I could have done.

Again, saw it recently and while some of it is truly cringeworthy I'm still a fan of Olivia Newton John and Dinah Manoff in this movie and Channing singing "There are worse things I could do" still isn't so terrible.

Those are the worst two I can think of at the moment.

ramairthree
08-16-17, 17:34
Bubba Hotep
A F'in masterpiece of genius mistaken for a horrible, no budget C film people don't want to finished because they think it is so bad.

Man From Atlantis
I really like that show, along with Six Million Dollar Man, The Incredible Hulk, Wonder Woman, Knight Rider, and a ton of the horribly written ridiculous plot, etc. Shows from my childhood.

docsherm
08-16-17, 18:27
1. The Greatest American Hero (1981-1983) - Part of this is of course nostalgia, this was a fun show when I was a young teen. The theme "Believe it or not" is possibly one of the greatest earbugs known to man, becoming even more popular than the show itself. The goofball schoolteacher turned superhero in training appealed to the geeky kid in all of us. Connie Sellecca was pretty hot too. Been watching this one on DVD lately and it's still fun, only the music for montage elements of each show are hard to take, it's really awful country music made for TV with extra cheese.



I loved that show and remember that it was so funny when I was a kid. The fact that he lost the instructions and could never really figure out how to fly was great.

wildcard600
08-16-17, 18:41
Bubba Hotep
A F'in masterpiece of genius mistaken for a horrible, no budget C film people don't want to finished because they think it is so bad.



Bubba Ho-tep is brilliant and dare I say, Campbell's best role. Ossie Davis really shines as Jack Kennedy as well. Great film.

flenna
08-16-17, 18:57
I loved that show and remember that it was so funny when I was a kid. The fact that he lost the instructions and could never really figure out how to fly was great.

That was a great show, one of my all time favorites. And remember Robert Culp's overuse of the word "scenario"?

Arik
08-16-17, 19:00
Only in reruns but I remember the show Spiderman from the 70s....or maybe it was early 80s.

There was Batman of course

Sledge Hammer. Like a funny Dirty Harry





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Kain
08-16-17, 20:34
Doom. I think most people hated it, but I enjoyed it. Granted I went in expecting a total suck fest, which probably helped. Oh, and I never played the games. lol.

SteyrAUG
08-16-17, 20:51
That was a great show, one of my all time favorites. And remember Robert Culp's overuse of the word "scenario"?

Some great 80s gun porn in that show as well, especially Maxwell's use of early model Colt Automatics in some episodes.

uffdaphil
08-16-17, 23:35
From an older perspective-- I still love the early '30s B westerns with no musical soundtrack. Lots of hoofbeats, stare downs and snap shooting six guns. The Painted Desert (1931) is a prime example. Pre Hopalong Wm. Boyd and Clark Gable's first speaking role Plus a couple of veteran silent stars who were top box office a decade earlier. Pure slow hokum compared to todays bloated action flicks, but well worth savoring if you have any attention span remaining.

Dennis
08-17-17, 02:47
Even back when I was a kid watching Greatest American Hero I loved the opening clip where Robert Culp goes to his ankle Commander and returns fire.

OK just watched it and it was a full size 1911 from a seated ground position but still cool and he was rocking an AR180 in the closing credits!

Dennis.

diving dave
08-17-17, 08:56
Maybe its my inner geek, but I still love Lost in Space! I watched it as a kid, and now its a fun escape from reality...And Angela Cartwright, the girl who played Penny, was my first real crush.

Det-Sog
08-17-17, 09:05
Sledge Hammer! Note my avatar.

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNzY0ODgyMDEzOF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwNDMyNjAwMQ@@._V1_.jpg

I loved it. I went into the police academy about the same time as it came out. It was always good for a laugh or three.

Det-Sog
08-17-17, 09:14
For a movie... ALL of the cheesy Arnold movies, and The Wraith.

The soundtracks back then were just awesome.

https://youtu.be/6te3SBzDiUk

Doc Safari
08-17-17, 09:27
1. Big Trouble in Little China

Everybody I know dislikes this movie but me. To me it was a perfect tongue-in-cheek sendup of adventure movies, sort of like Indiana Jones meets Rush Hour. Parts of it are flat out silly, and I love every minute of this movie. I forgive Kurt Russell for making Bone Tomahawk just because he made Big Trouble in Little China.

2. Damnation Alley

They could have done so much more with this movie, but the idea of a bunch of post-nuclear survivors travelling across country in super-cool armored vehicles just can't be topped. I wish someone would remake this with a decent budget and a more exciting ending.

3. Tremors

A cheapie with a silly concept of giant worms somehow having lived undiscovered for millions of years under the US southwest. I never get tired of watching it.

4. Trancers

Another cheapie about time travelers. Low budget but with some original ideas.

5. Flash Gordon

Max Von Sydow IS Ming the Merciless. Another campy attempt at sci fi that is so bad it's good. The special effects look like something a first year film student would do, but when Queen comes on singing "Flash, AAAAAAAh aaah aaaah!" you know you're in the presence of greatness.


Honorable mention:

The Postman

Another Kevin Costner "epic," like Water World. People derisively called it "Dirt World." It drags in spots, but with lots of AR carbines afoot it's a decent if overblown post-Apocalypse movie.

If I think of more I'll come back later.

chuckman
08-17-17, 10:10
It's no secret I am a fan of movies and old tv shows. This includes B movies, schlock films from the 60s and 70s and all kinds of MST3K fodder. But there are some even I never expected to develop a fondness for.

1. The Greatest American Hero (1981-1983) - Part of this is of course nostalgia, this was a fun show when I was a young teen. The theme "Believe it or not" is possibly one of the greatest earbugs known to man, becoming even more popular than the show itself. The goofball schoolteacher turned superhero in training appealed to the geeky kid in all of us. Connie Sellecca was pretty hot too. Been watching this one on DVD lately and it's still fun, only the music for montage elements of each show are hard to take, it's really awful country music made for TV with extra cheese.

2. Grease (1978) - I got drug to this one as a kid by my parents when it first came out. I suffered through an "old people" film at the time even though I thought the main theme was pretty cool. I actually bought the soundtrack on cassette tape and the summer of 78 when I built a tree house out of wooden pallets my friends and I did the construction to Grease by Frankie Valli. A few years later when this became a cable TV regular I became a fan due to a newfound interest in Olivia Newton John and Dinah Manoff. And while she was a bit old to play a high school kid, Stockard Channing singing "There are worse things I could do" would hardly have been the worst thing I could have done.

Again, saw it recently and while some of it is truly cringeworthy I'm still a fan of Olivia Newton John and Dinah Manoff in this movie and Channing singing "There are worse things I could do" still isn't so terrible.

Those are the worst two I can think of at the moment.

Both of those are pretty great. I haven't seen GAH since it was on, but I watch Grease about three times a year, in full.

Det-Sog
08-17-17, 11:51
Megaforce. The ultimate in cheesy, but also had a decent soundtrack.

https://youtu.be/z4RNPlgktpI

FromMyColdDeadHand
08-17-17, 11:58
Last StarFighter- Just a good 80s adventure movie that is a bit syrupy. "We live in Caves on wheels"; "What do we do now?". "We die."

Rock Star- It's not a good movie, light Jennifer Aniston lesbianism, some catchy toons and it doesn't do anything wrong. A good way to waste 90 minutes on a Saturday.

titsonritz
08-17-17, 12:21
It's no secret I am a fan of movies and old tv shows. This includes B movies, schlock films from the 60s and 70s and all kinds of MST3K fodder. But there are some even I never expected to develop a fondness for.

1. The Greatest American Hero (1981-1983) - Part of this is of course nostalgia, this was a fun show when I was a young teen. The theme "Believe it or not" is possibly one of the greatest earbugs known to man, becoming even more popular than the show itself. The goofball schoolteacher turned superhero in training appealed to the geeky kid in all of us. Connie Sellecca was pretty hot too. Been watching this one on DVD lately and it's still fun, only the music for montage elements of each show are hard to take, it's really awful country music made for TV with extra cheese.

Always liked that show. I remember having dreams flying like crap just like him.

Max Headroom also comes to mind.

tog
08-17-17, 12:22
The Prisoner. Still get a kick out of watching the trial of number 48.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6oP1N33dx0

Plumber237
08-17-17, 12:23
They Live, with Rowdy Roddy f***in' Piper!

Plumber237
08-17-17, 12:27
Also Hell Comes to Frogtown, also with Mr. Piper...this movie is shitty as hell, but I do enjoy it's terrible B-ness. It makes They Live look like the Godfather in comparison...

Doc Safari
08-17-17, 12:44
Yes, the 1960's Batman series. I was too young to see it in its first run, but I caught it in syndication years later.

It deserves to be on this list because I am continually surprised at diehard Batman fans who absolutely HATE it. To hear them talk it's blasphemy or something. I always thought it was a good way to take the hot air out of the superhero genre, but I've got a buddy who won't even discuss the show. He acts like I'm talking about an insult to his religion or something.

chuckman
08-17-17, 13:06
Yes, the 1960's Batman series. I was too young to see it in its first run, but I caught it in syndication years later.

It deserves to be on this list because I am continually surprised at diehard Batman fans who absolutely HATE it. To hear them talk it's blasphemy or something. I always thought it was a good way to take the hot air out of the superhero genre, but I've got a buddy who won't even discuss the show. He acts like I'm talking about an insult to his religion or something.

Tell your buddy to simmer down.

It was a great show, everything comics-on-the-small-screen should be: light, campy, schtick. The brooding, moody Batman is well-served on the big screen and with some of the other TV shows, but the original Batman series was awesome.

Nowski87
08-17-17, 13:54
Phantasm, all of them. They are cheesy and ridiculous and will have you scratching your head constantly but they are a ton of fun.

Also will always watch Starship Troopers, it's goofy and over the top but I love it.


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Firefly
09-13-17, 01:14
Some of my favorites have been mentioned.

So I add my own

TV

Zoobilee Zoo- I was a kid amd had a thing for the pink girl

3 2 1 Contact- It was like 'In Search Of' for kids. But I watched it mostly for the freaking Mathnet sketches. It was a noirish, hardboiled tale of LAPD's finest Mathemeticians solving crime with guts, hardnosed gumshoeing, and calculators. It was gritty with smoking, minor cursing, two-fisted gunplay and hardcore major crimes solved with the Pythagorean Theorem or the Quadratic Equation

Crimetime After Primetime- The whole block.

Beverly Hills 90210- until it became the Tori Spelling show

Films

I could talk about 80s B movies for days but I will limit it to the Wizard. If you weren't a kid in the late 80s with a Nintendo then you wouldn't understand.

Grand58742
09-13-17, 07:08
No Gymkata yet?

Appalling, M4C, purely disgraceful.

NYH1
09-13-17, 11:17
I usually watch history, military, documentary, comedy, college football, college baseball, a little NFL, that type of stuff. I was never really a movie or show kind of kid/guy.

When I was a kid I'd watch The Dukes Of Hazard, Chips, Cheers (Norm was the man). All the Police Academes were good. Red Dawn. Porky's....did I got to far?

However, after my back surgery in '11 I had a lot of time on my hands....or back. My kids got me into a few sitcom reruns, That 70's Show and Everyone Loves Raymond. In both shows the fathers were awesome. Now if there's nothing on I might watch Last Man Standing. I was the last man standing until we had my son!

NYH1

sniperfrog
09-14-17, 18:13
Phantasm, all of them. They are cheesy and ridiculous and will have you scratching your head constantly but they are a ton of fun.

Also will always watch Starship Troopers, it's goofy and over the top but I love it.


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Phantasm 2. You got the Hemi Cuda, the 4 barrelled shotgun, the DIY flamethrower and the breaching chainsaw and cordless drill. I also love the line: "come on you mutha". Classic.

MegademiC
09-14-17, 20:49
The Gingerdead Man

Best.
Movie.
Ever.

soulezoo
09-14-17, 20:59
Waterboy. God help me I still like watching it.

jmp45
09-14-17, 21:31
Little Otik.

Spiffums
09-15-17, 19:09
Last StarFighter- Just a good 80s adventure movie that is a bit syrupy. "We live in Caves on wheels"; "What do we do now?". "We die."

Rock Star- It's not a good movie, light Jennifer Aniston lesbianism, some catchy toons and it doesn't do anything wrong. A good way to waste 90 minutes on a Saturday.


I thought it was a good movie if you liked Hair Band Metal. I quit a job once by telling the boss I had to take a piss.

Spiffums
09-15-17, 19:13
I usually watch history, military, documentary, comedy, college football, college baseball, a little NFL, that type of stuff. I was never really a movie or show kind of kid/guy.

When I was a kid I'd watch The Dukes Of Hazard, Chips, Cheers (Norm was the man). All the Police Academes were good. Red Dawn. Porky's....did I got to far?

However, after my back surgery in '11 I had a lot of time on my hands....or back. My kids got me into a few sitcom reruns, That 70's Show and Everyone Loves Raymond. In both shows the fathers were awesome. Now if there's nothing on I might watch Last Man Standing. I was the last man standing until we had my son!

NYH1


Yes Red Dawn is not a "worst" movie!!!! Minus 100 internets from your house!!

Firefly
09-15-17, 20:22
Meatballs II

That film.was a classic.
Had Red Dawn 2008 kept Red China as bad guy I would have liked it more

SteyrAUG
09-15-17, 23:46
Rock Star- It's not a good movie, light Jennifer Aniston lesbianism, some catchy toons and it doesn't do anything wrong. A good way to waste 90 minutes on a Saturday.

Honestly, much as a despise hair metal, that was actually a good movie. Very watchable.

Averageman
09-16-17, 06:29
The 60's had some really bad TV. Time Tunnel, Lost in Space and Star Trek come to mind.
Great premise, sometimes great stories, but they were killed by bad budgets that had terrible special effects and sets.

ramairthree
09-16-17, 11:44
The 60's had some really bad TV. Time Tunnel, Lost in Space and Star Trek come to mind.
Great premise, sometimes great stories, but they were killed by bad budgets that had terrible special effects and sets.

Star Trek was a great idea.
Full credit to G.R. For that.

But man,
When it came to plot, excitement, etc. 9 times out of ten he was a total hack.
To the point I think it has succeeded and expanded and become so popular in spite of, not because of what he wanted to do with it.

Averageman
09-16-17, 12:47
Star Trek was a great idea.
Full credit to G.R. For that.

But man,
When it came to plot, excitement, etc. 9 times out of ten he was a total hack.
To the point I think it has succeeded and expanded and become so popular in spite of, not because of what he wanted to do with it.

If you were old enough to remember sometimes the would have an alien monster on one show and then remarkably it would show up a month or so later on a different show with few changes.
at like 11 I knew they were low budget.

Averageman
09-16-17, 12:48
Star Trek was a great idea.
Full credit to G.R. For that.

But man,
When it came to plot, excitement, etc. 9 times out of ten he was a total hack.
To the point I think it has succeeded and expanded and become so popular in spite of, not because of what he wanted to do with it.

If you were old enough to remember sometimes the would have an alien monster on one show and then remarkably it would show up a month or so later on a different show with few changes.
at like 11 I knew they were low budget.

Firefly
09-16-17, 15:32
If I could remove one thing from 20th century pop culture, it would be Star Trek.

It was Wagon Train with hippie Cultural Marxism.

Man from UNCLE had two best friends screwing beatnik hippie girls who didnt shave, china dolls, and the occasional Jackie O wannabe while gunning down
terrorists. It was the Strike Back of the 60s.

I wish I could punch out every Trekkie ever.

Buck Rogers gets a pass because Erin Gray and the little robot dude

SteyrAUG
09-16-17, 18:55
If I could remove one thing from 20th century pop culture, it would be Star Trek.

It was Wagon Train with hippie Cultural Marxism.

Man from UNCLE had two best friends screwing beatnik hippie girls who didnt shave, china dolls, and the occasional Jackie O wannabe while gunning down
terrorists. It was the Strike Back of the 60s.

I wish I could punch out every Trekkie ever.

Buck Rogers gets a pass because Erin Gray and the little robot dude

I grew up watching Star Trek just about every night on reruns in the early 70s. If it was an attempt at marxist indoctrination it failed...horribly in my case. I was never a "Trekkie" but I loved the show and still do. As for Buck Rogers, between Princess Ardala and Commander Deering that show was "almost" as incredible as Wonder Woman with Linda Carter. I know now that Wonder Woman was "supposed" to be teaching me about feminism and all that stuff but the only thing I got was Linda Carter was amazingly hot and that Wonder Woman costume was awesome.

Lots of hippie shows and movies tried to pass on a strong socialist, marxist or communist ideology. They usually failed just like movies like "Betrayed" didn't make me sympathetic to the white supremacy movement. It is a rare tv show or film that forces me to contemplate or reevaluate my beliefs, and even in those instances they are merely a catalyst for the evaluation and not the new belief that will be adopted. I guess I'm just not as susceptible as some.

I liked Red Dawn in part because it mirrored my beliefs and political views, but honestly if they had been fighting a resurgent Imperial Japan I would have felt more or less the same way about the film. I can only think of one film (series) that I watched simply for the politics and that would be Amerika (1987) and while scary as social prophesy it was rather hard to watch as there were no battles or exciting elements like "Red Dawn" and unless you really understand global politics it gets boring at times.

Bubba FAL
09-16-17, 20:37
The original Green Hornet TV series was awesome. BLACK Beauty and Bruce f'n Lee as Kato.

The movie with Seth Rogen just flat out sucked...

SteyrAUG
09-16-17, 22:36
The original Green Hornet TV series was awesome. BLACK Beauty and Bruce f'n Lee as Kato.

The movie with Seth Rogen just flat out sucked...

Agreed. They could have at least gotten an actual martial artist so they didn't have to CGI "Charlie's Angels" fighting skills. Van Williams never exactly carried the show but Seth Rogan flat out sucked. Maybe next they can cast Jonah Hill as Batman because fat, doper comedians make the most awesome super heroes. But even the movie itself sucked so I guess no harm in making a complete disaster out of everything.

I have all the original TV episodes on DVD so it really doesn't bother me. Would have been kind of cool if Jet Li had done a remake in the early days before he started cracking out crap like "Romeo Must Die."

ramairthree
09-18-17, 00:47
If you were old enough to remember sometimes the would have an alien monster on one show and then remarkably it would show up a month or so later on a different show with few changes.
at like 11 I knew they were low budget.

I was not so much referring to the budget, or his progressive tendencies, but more his story writing, Etc.
And his repetitiveness.

Doc Safari
09-18-17, 09:23
If I could remove one thing from 20th century pop culture, it would be Star Trek.

It was Wagon Train with hippie Cultural Marxism.




Yet, there were also politically incorrect episodes based on your analysis. "A Private Little War" was an episode blatantly justifying the Vietnam War. And it came out right before the news of the Tet Offensive hit the airwaves. Not bad for a "hippie marxist" TV show.

My one major criticism of the original Star Trek is that Roddenberry sincerely believed that when we "go out there" we will find people just like us. That's why you got episodes with Nazis, Romans, Greek gods, etc., and even an actual duplicate of Earth but ravaged by a plague. I think he could not be more wrong. I don't think people on other worlds will be very much like us at all. In fact they may try to kill us and eat us.

Averageman
09-18-17, 11:31
I was not so much referring to the budget, or his progressive tendencies, but more his story writing, Etc.
And his repetitiveness.
I was referring to the great stories and slim to none special effects budgets.
You could go from Land of the Giants to Time Tunnel, to Lost in Space and then over to 20,000 Leagues under the sea and find the same species of alien had attacked them all within a year of episodes.
It kind of ruined it for me because they didn't budget anything for special effects to boost the sometimes great stories.
I would have sent them a letter about my concerns but I doubt if they would have taken me seriously. It would have been written in crayon on a Big Chief notebook paper.

Doc Safari
09-18-17, 13:17
I was referring to the great stories and slim to none special effects budgets.
You could go from Land of the Giants to Time Tunnel, to Lost in Space and then over to 20,000 Leagues under the sea and find the same species of alien had attacked them all within a year of episodes.
It kind of ruined it for me because they didn't budget anything for special effects to boost the sometimes great stories.
I would have sent them a letter about my concerns but I doubt if they would have taken me seriously. It would have been written in crayon on a Big Chief notebook paper.

I actually got a kick out of picking out areas where budget constraints had forced things to be reused. Going back to your favorite (Star Trek), the Aurora Cruiser in "The Way to Eden" is just one of the ships from "The Tholian Web" with engines glued on. My favorite low budget cannibalization was the USS Constellation from "The Doomsday Machine". Supposedly it was the actual hobbyist AMT plastic model of the Enterprise built up and battle damaged for filming.

I love how the sound effect for the Klingon disuptor weapon ended up being used for just about everything that wasn't a Federation weapon.