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Arik
08-24-17, 06:54
Anyone heard about this? Cop goes to sit down and his G35 discharges. I'd be interested to know what kind of holsters they use. Unless he had a defective gun it would seem like he would have had to get something caught in the trigger or used a holster not designed for that gun


"The officer, who had his gun in his holster,*opened the car door with one hand while holding his lunch with the other.

As the officer sat down, the gun went off, shooting him in the lower leg."



http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/manitoba/officer-bullet-glock-1.4252937

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JasonB1
08-24-17, 07:25
I have heard of defective Glocks firing during the loading phase and heard of Glocks getting holstered and retention straps, clothes, etc. getting inside the trigger guard and firing the pistol. Also heard of a lot more incidents of Glocks and other firearms spontaneously and mysteriously firing when someone's finger pulled the trigger. Sounds more professional that way.

Kain
08-24-17, 09:11
Am at work so not able to pull up link very well. At anyrate I have heard of some holsters, the light bearing ALS from Safariland offering enough gap for a small object to engress to tge trigger. Remember an incident an officer had the gun discharge with that holster when a child who was standing next to him stuck a finger in and got at the trigger.

Arik
08-24-17, 09:22
Am at work so not able to pull up link very well. At anyrate I have heard of some holsters, the light bearing ALS from Safariland offering enough gap for a small object to engress to tge trigger. Remember an incident an officer had the gun discharge with that holster when a child who was standing next to him stuck a finger in and got at the trigger.Here's the whole article


An officer shot by his own weapon last week didn't have his hands anywhere near his gun, Winnipeg police say.

The bullet severed three arteries and the officer likely saved his life by quickly tying the wound off with a*tourniquet.

The officer was taking part in a firearms training course on Aug. 7 when he and his partner went to a store on Taylor Avenue to get some lunch about 1 p.m., Const. Jay Murray said.

The officer, who had his gun in his holster,*opened the car door with one hand while holding his lunch with the other.

As the officer sat down, the gun went off, shooting him in the lower leg.

Winnipeg police officer injured after gun fires inside holster

"The bullet entered the right side of his leg and severed three arteries," Murray said. "He described it to me as the most amount of blood he's seen. This officer's been on for eight years and a number of years with the tactical support team, and he said it was like something out of a movie."


Police are investigating whether*the weapon, a Glock*35, was faulty and if there have been similar incidents in other police departments. Murray said the investigation is being overseen by*Manitoba Workplace Safety and Health.

The Independent Investigation Unit of Manitoba*told CBC News it is not doing its own investigation*because it has not received a formal report. The unit*investigates serious incidents involving*police officers.

Murray told CBC that police didn't submit a report to the unit because the incident did not meet the required elements in legislation governing the IIU.

At the moment, there are no concerns about the type of gun tactical officers carry, Murray said.

"Officers with the tactical support team, they've all examined their weapons," he said.

Firearms unit officers*are investigating the officer's gun to determine exactly what happened.

"Once that's known, then we can proceed further to see if this is a bigger issue or if it was isolated to this firearm," Murray said.

The officer remains in hospital, and the bullet is still in his leg.

What is a tactical tourniquet?

The officer used a Winnipeg Police Service-issued tactical tourniquet to stop his bleeding.

It's*similar to a regular tourniquet, but made of*Velcro*and nylon, said Sgt. Shane Cooke, a 21-year member of the tactical support team who gave media a demonstration.

"It's very simple to use," he said.*"If you have a belt and a pen you can mimic something like this, but this is something that allows us to self-apply very quickly."

The tourniquet is placed around the limb*and tightened to cut off blood flow, preventing blood loss.*

Members of the tactical support team have carried the tourniquet since 2011, Murray said. In 2017, the police service purchased 1,000 to distribute to all front-line officers. They all learned*to use them as part of their first aid training, which is refreshed every three years.

The tourniquets have been used 10 times since 2011, but this was the first time it was used on an officer, said Murray.



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Kain
08-24-17, 11:21
Hmmm. Would be curious to what holster was if the gun is not defective. Also, was the 35 the issue sidearm or did he personally provide it? If the latter did he mod it any?

JasonB1
08-24-17, 14:19
Am at work so not able to pull up link very well. At anyrate I have heard of some holsters, the light bearing ALS from Safariland offering enough gap for a small object to engress to tge trigger. Remember an incident an officer had the gun discharge with that holster when a child who was standing next to him stuck a finger in and got at the trigger.

Only 2 I can find have a Floyd County, GA deputy making the claim of a child on scene doing it, but they indicated not being able to verify that as fact. Another was a Lodi, CA SWAT officer showing his gear to kids at a reading event when a 6 to 8 year old pulled the trigger, but the 6 to 8 year old was never found after.

TMS951
08-24-17, 16:20
I don't understand mechanically how a Glock could be "defective" in such way as to fire.

The trigger must be drawn to cock the striker.

The striker is blocked by a firing pin safety, the trigger bar must move to depress it.

Sure seems to me something must have pulled the trigger. Also how did it shoot him in the leg if holstered? I think the officer is lying to cover up some dubass thing he did while getting in the car.

AKDoug
08-24-17, 19:33
I wonder what he was wearing. It's quite possible to holster a Glock with a draw string from a coat in the trigger guard. I cut all my draw strings off after this happened to me, but I caught it before the gun fired. An officer a couple years ago did the same thing in a gun shop and resulted in a ND.

cop1211
08-25-17, 03:36
We had an officer have a negligent discharge caused by a draw string on his uniform jacket. Got caught in the trigger guard.My money is on the same here.

JasonB1
08-25-17, 07:08
Looks like Winnipeg was hitting high 70's to low 80's by mid day on 7 August.

Spiffums
08-27-17, 12:30
I wonder what he was wearing. It's quite possible to holster a Glock with a draw string from a coat in the trigger guard. I cut all my draw strings off after this happened to me, but I caught it before the gun fired. An officer a couple years ago did the same thing in a gun shop and resulted in a ND.

When I shoot IDPA I wear a silky go fast shirt and underarmor briefs so my shirt doesn't stay tucked in at the sides. I have to be careful to make sure I don't get my shirt down in the holster. I've had mags get fabric in the pouch and when I run....out comes the mag!