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If you are an old timer on M4C you may remember the Mossie Tactics Midnight Mount. It essentially mounts to the front of the FSB with a Picatinny section that extend outwards towards the muzzle. It will then allow you to mount a Surefire X-series light or the Streamlight TLR series lights at 12 o'clock without any modification. It allows for ambidextrous use of the light and reduces shadowing from the barrel and FSB.
Initial units were made and sold by Battle Comp Enterprises. These new units will be made by another recognized company.
The introduction of the Magpul MOE SL handguard has complemented the mount and with it's wrap around design it helps even more to reduce potential for heat transference to the hand. An obvious benefit is simple and easy mounting with nothing more than a hex wrench, no modification to the weapon and no need for the use of a rail.
It is anticipated that they will be ready to ship within the next 30-45 days as units are already in production.
A few more things. These are not designed for prolonged magazine dumps while storming ISIS strongholds. It is designed first and foremost for LE and civilians with rifles and carbines that have an FSB and where a modification is not allowed (per policy) or due to cost.
There is going to be a version 2 coming which will allow other lights such as the Surefire Scout series and Streamlight ProTac series lights to be used. I will post up some stuff about that mount later as well as potentially dates of availability.
https://imgur.com/pLAbGCL
https://imgur.com/9ynUYnT
https://imgur.com/BjPD73C
https://imgur.com/MnBLXvM
https://imgur.com/pLAbGCL
If you are an old timer on M4C you may remember the Mossie Tactics Midnight Mount. It essentially mounts to the front of the FSB with a Picatinny section that extend outwards towards the muzzle. It will then allow you to mount a Surefire X-series light or the Streamlight TLR series lights at 12 o'clock without any modification. It allows for ambidextrous use of the light and reduces shadowing from the barrel and FSB.
Initial units were made and sold by Battle Comp Enterprises. These new units will be made by another recognized company.
The introduction of the Magpul MOE SL handguard has complemented the mount and with it's wrap around design it helps even more to reduce potential for heat transference to the hand. An obvious benefit is simple and easy mounting with nothing more than a hex wrench, no modification to the weapon and no need for the use of a rail.
It is anticipated that they will be ready to ship within the next 30-45 days as units are already in production.
A few more things. These are not designed for prolonged magazine dumps while storming ISIS strongholds. It is designed first and foremost for LE and civilians with rifles and carbines that have an FSB and where a modification is not allowed (per policy) or due to cost.
There is going to be a version 2 coming which will allow other lights such as the Surefire Scout series and Streamlight ProTac series lights to be used. I will post up some stuff about that mount later as well as potentially dates of availability.
https://imgur.com/pLAbGCL
https://imgur.com/9ynUYnT
https://imgur.com/BjPD73C
https://imgur.com/MnBLXvM
https://imgur.com/pLAbGCL
Reminds me of this:
https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/MI-Tactical-Light-Mount-p/mctar-01g2.htm
Nice concept, but I storm ISIS strongholds.
Awesome! I had one years ago and stupidly sold it with the rifle it was mounted to. I'm a huge fan of the SL handguard and agree that the mount would be a perfect complement to it. I will definitely be picking one up.
Rayrevolver
09-14-17, 08:14
My first 3 ARs had FSBs and these MMMs were great with X300s. Didn't realize they stopped selling them.
Wasn't a member named Buck involved?
Thanks for the heads up, father-in-law could use one for his BCM 11.5" with an FSB.
Not sure when that was patented, but the Mossie Mount is already close to 5 years old, if not a little older.
If you are storming ISIS strongholds and doing crazy mag dumps, then this isn't for you.
Reminds me of this:
https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/MI-Tactical-Light-Mount-p/mctar-01g2.htm
Nice concept, but I storm ISIS strongholds.
Long story short. Yes, a former M4C member designed and patented the mount, and it was produced and sold mostly by BCE. The downside is that someone has to front money for material, machine time, etc.. Now there is a different arrangement in place which will ensure a steady supply as needed.
My first 3 ARs had FSBs and these MMMs were great with X300s. Didn't realize they stopped selling them.
Wasn't a member named Buck involved?
Thanks for the heads up, father-in-law could use one for his BCM 11.5" with an FSB.
I seriously missed these. Been recommending them to LEOs and shooters, until I recently found out that they were discontinued. I recently had to recommend the similar, but nowhere near as good, KleyZion offering to someone instead.
This is great news.
titsonritz
09-14-17, 11:04
Thanks for posting this, I've been anxiously awaiting them to return to available status. I've got one, want another one plus one for my daughters carbine. They are a perfect rail/mount to use with Magpul's SL handguard.
I was disappointed that the Midnight Mount had been discontinued. Very happy to see it make it's way back onto the market.
This is a great mount for LE and home defense. Light location and ambidextrous capability make it a winner.
titsonritz
09-14-17, 11:21
Reminds me of this:
https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/MI-Tactical-Light-Mount-p/mctar-01g2.htm
Nice concept, but I storm ISIS strongholds.
The big difference is the Mossie places the light (or other accessory) at 12 o'clock keeping the carbine nice and slim and is ambidextrous to boot. You're right though there are far better option for hard military use but for LE or the home defender it a great, inexpensive little mount.
This is great news. I've been planning to set up a 6720 with one of these mounts and was bummed to find out they were no longer available (and near impossible to find used). I'll definitely pick up a few. Of all the products coming out right now, I think I'm most excited for this.
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Thanks for posting this, I've been anxiously awaiting them to return to available status. I've got one, want another one plus one for my daughters carbine. They are a perfect rail/mount to use with Magpul's SL handguard.
I picked up a 6920 with the SL furniture, and I have to agree. I think one of these with my Aimpoint will be an excellent defensive tool. I don't plan on getting into drawn out firefights in my house anytime soon.
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In all the time I've been using a Mossie mount, heat has never been an issue, even when I've run the carbine it's mounted to hard. It pays to be cautious activating the light when the FSB is hot, but the light should be switched on before the shooting starts. Yes, the Mossie mount is good match for the Slimline stock. I will be getting one or two more when they're available. This is the perfect solution for mounting a light to the SBR I'm waiting for
Really glad to see these back. I tried to get my old apartment to go with them for issued guns a while back. Unfortunately stupid prevailed. It is still an awesome option though
What is the anticipated price point on these? Someone mentioned inexpensive.
Ned @Michiguns makes one that is semi-permanently attached to the FSB, he calls it the ILM - Ideal Light Mount. Unfortunately the upper that I'm looking to mount the light to didn't cost much more than the mount itself.
http://www.m-guns.com/tools.php
titsonritz
09-14-17, 14:01
What is the anticipated price point on these? Someone mentioned inexpensive.
They use to be in the $75 neighborhood new, I think I gave more like $45 for a couple here on the EE.
I like mine, given to me by Alan Normandie of BCE years back :D
http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i314/Duffypoo/MMM3.jpg (http://s75.photobucket.com/user/Duffypoo/media/MMM3.jpg.html)
A few dollars less than the previous price. Around 69.00 each.
What is the anticipated price point on these? Someone mentioned inexpensive.
Ned @Michiguns makes one that is semi-permanently attached to the FSB, he calls it the ILM - Ideal Light Mount. Unfortunately the upper that I'm looking to mount the light to didn't cost much more than the mount itself.
http://www.m-guns.com/tools.php
TexasAggie2005
09-14-17, 18:30
Very cool. I've wanted a Mossie Mount for an FSB upper I have.
A few dollars less than the previous price. Around 69.00 each.
Thanks. I'll be looking forward to production.
I'm sure it's probably solid. But, that's a long ways away (price and installation) from the MM.
What is the anticipated price point on these? Someone mentioned inexpensive.
Ned @Michiguns makes one that is semi-permanently attached to the FSB, he calls it the ILM - Ideal Light Mount. Unfortunately the upper that I'm looking to mount the light to didn't cost much more than the mount itself.
http://www.m-guns.com/tools.php
I'll get another one or 2. Like many I sold mine, thought I'd go strictly long rails for a time but over the years I've gravitated toward some with BUIS and a few with a FSB. For me my 2 favorite light mounts were both discontinued. The Mossie and one I bought for a Mini Scout years ago from a member that was selling from Lightfighter. It mounted on the top rail and placed the Scout at 10 or 2 and was very small and light.
jerrysimons
09-15-17, 22:33
Perfect for a 16" Sionics middy FSB upper that's a glutton for punishment.
I'll get another one or 2. Like many I sold mine, thought I'd go strictly long rails for a time but over the years I've gravitated toward some with BUIS and a few with a FSB. For me my 2 favorite light mounts were both discontinued. The Mossie and one I bought for a Mini Scout years ago from a member that was selling from Lightfighter. It mounted on the top rail and placed the Scout at 10 or 2 and was very small and light.
Wasn't this one was it? The name has changed but this was designed by a guy on LF
https://amsmachine.net/a-2065-scout-light-mount/
CrowCommand
09-16-17, 11:02
Very cool. Will be looking to get one of these when available....keeps us posted IG, thanks.
Do you wear a welding glove on the left hand when you train with it?
I shoot at night quite a bit and that setup looks less than optimal. Less than useful actually.
I have a couple and they have been 100% rock solid. 2 on FSB and at least 1 or 2 on Troy sights as well.
Diamondback
09-17-17, 00:47
Any potential concerns from mounting one of these on a 10.3" if I have a blast-can like a BFD, Fortis Control or Flaming Pig? My CASV precludes FSB-side rails, and I was just thinking if it could handle muzzle blast one of these with my low-power red "navigation" flashlight on it might let me use the slant-rail and a tail-switch for a brighter white "blinder."
I suggest you don't purchase it then.
Do you wear a welding glove on the left hand when you train with it?
I shoot at night quite a bit and that setup looks less than optimal. Less than useful actually.
I used on my 11.5" and 12.5". I cannot say 100% how it will work with a 10.3/10.5".
Any potential concerns from mounting one of these on a 10.3" if I have a blast-can like a BFD, Fortis Control or Flaming Pig? My CASV precludes FSB-side rails, and I was just thinking if it could handle muzzle blast one of these with my low-power red "navigation" flashlight on it might let me use the slant-rail and a tail-switch for a brighter white "blinder."
Here's a 3D printed Version 2 mount. You can direct mount a Surefire Scout or Streamlight ProTac light, as well as a Picatinny section to mount the X300/400 series light and be able to use the pressure switches. It can be mounted on the left or right side.
https://i.imgur.com/gOB6e9O.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BZJw7uF.jpg
SeriousStudent
09-17-17, 12:26
Very cool. I have one of Buck's original mounts (no, it's not for sale) and I've got two carbines that could use one of the new ones.
Thanks for the heads up, IG.
Do you wear a welding glove on the left hand when you train with it?
I shoot at night quite a bit and that setup looks less than optimal. Less than useful actually.
Perhaps you missed the post where it was stated that this mount is designed for LE and home defense use, not assaulting ISIS strongholds or converting money to noise while doing mag dumps. For what it was designed for it works very well. It provides a totally ambidextrous and transparent mounting solution for a good price. I've used one since they were first introduced and all the rifles in the PD I work for are equipped with them. Zero issues to this point.
Diamondback
09-17-17, 16:09
Another question for the benefit of us FNG's who weren't here First Time Around: how far does the MMM project from the front of the FSB?
Well, two: is the back section a strap that goes all the way around the FSB front post, or a claw that clamps around the sides and can be moved up the FSB a little if you have a smaller light?
You know there are pics in my post, right?
Another question for the benefit of us FNG's who weren't here First Time Around: how far does the MMM project from the front of the FSB?
Well, two: is the back section a strap that goes all the way around the FSB front post, or a claw that clamps around the sides and can be moved up the FSB a little if you have a smaller light?
Do you wear a welding glove on the left hand when you train with it?
I shoot at night quite a bit and that setup looks less than optimal. Less than useful actually.
Let me reiterate- Even with mag dumps, the Mossie Mount works.
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You can work the light without frying your fingers. In the photo below, the gas block is hot enough to sizzle, yet I could operate the light switch bare fingered without getting burned.
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It works even better with the MagPul Slimline handguard
Diamondback
09-17-17, 23:00
You know there are pics in my post, right?
Saw the links, clicked a couple, didn't have my FSB, ruler and slide-rule handy to try to work out the length--maybe I missed the better view from behind, which tends to happen when I get too many things going at one time. [EDIT: Zooming in a little looks like there is a rear-side gap.]
Gut said 3" or so, but I was hoping for a little more concrete confirmation--one of the pics looks close to actual-size, so with barrel held in front of screen to match the photo it looks like on my build it'll be just about 1/8" behind the tip of my brake and flashcan.
Definitely something worth keeping an eye on.
Diamondback
09-17-17, 23:00
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titsonritz
09-17-17, 23:24
Saw the links, clicked a couple, didn't have my FSB, ruler and slide-rule handy to try to work out the length--maybe I missed the better view from behind, which tends to happen when I get too many things going at one time. [EDIT: Zooming in a little looks like there is a rear-side gap.]
Gut said 3" or so, but I was hoping for a little more concrete confirmation--one of the pics looks close to actual-size, so with barrel held in front of screen to match the photo it looks like on my build it'll be just about 1/8" behind the tip of my brake and flashcan.
Definitely something worth keeping an eye on.
The entire mount is 3" long, from the face of the front sight to the end of the rail is 2.7" (measured w/ a ruler not a caliper)
Alright guys, time for an update! The Mossie Tactics Mounts are now available. These are being made and sold by Arisaka Defense. Eventually they are going to be pushed out to dealers and distributors.
https://arisakadefense.com/products/mossie-1913-fsb-mount
Alright guys, time for an update! The Mossie Tactics Mounts are now available. These are being made and sold by Arisaka Defense. Eventually they are going to be pushed out to dealers and distributors.
https://arisakadefense.com/products/mossie-1913-fsb-mount
Nice! I can't think of anyone better to make these than Arisaka.
ColtSeavers
10-13-17, 00:03
So, no more Kley-Zion Botach copies?
They are free to do what they want, since they aren't violating the patent.
So, no more Kley-Zion Botach copies?
I’ve had a few of these. They work great. I have one I bought as a deal with the X300. Great option.
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titsonritz
10-13-17, 11:52
Awesome!! I know what I'm getting my daughter for Christmas.
SeriousStudent
10-13-17, 17:16
Alright guys, time for an update! The Mossie Tactics Mounts are now available. These are being made and sold by Arisaka Defense. Eventually they are going to be pushed out to dealers and distributors.
https://arisakadefense.com/products/mossie-1913-fsb-mount
Excellent! Arisaka is rock-solid, all of my gear from them has been top-notch.
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