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Who actually makes the brass for Graf's and son's? Looking at buying some 30 Remington new brass that is head stamped Graf's.
Thanks
My wager is Starline.
Both are located (fairly close)in Missouri.
I was also thinking that starline was their supplier with custom headstamp.
Walking through the Starline factory a few years ago, I saw several stations where brass was being made with headstamps for different companies. I remember seeing one and looking at the guide and he said "That company's ammo isn't on the market yet, but you'll see it soon." A few months later, that ammo hit the market.
Yeah, there can't be too many brass manufacturers in the country I would guess.
Evel Baldgui
09-25-17, 13:33
My wager is Starline.
Both are located (fairly close)in Missouri.
Yep, I would tend to agree!
Is Starline good brass? I've seen it advertised, but know nothing about it.
It's all I shoot in 10mm and 41 mag.
Would not say is Lapua, but I consider it as good as Winchester or Remington
I run it in 9mm, .38 Super, .45 ACP, .357, .41, .44 mag, .45 Colt, .300 Blk, .22/250, .25/06, 7 WSM, 7X57, .308, .30/06., .348 Win., .45/70.
Not exclusively in 9 and .45 ACP range ammo, but pretty much in the remainder.
You can buy better/more expensive brass, Starline has proven to be good, consistent brass for me.
Coal Dragger
09-27-17, 20:24
I've used a lot of Starline brass, it's good stuff. The only problem I've ever had is using it for max loads in .454 Casull. The loading manuals state to use the harder Winchester .454 brass (which is quite expensive). The Starline brass with max loads in my Freedom Arms resulted in some pretty sticky ejection, the same loads in Winchester brass eject much easier.
For more reasonable loading in .454 the Starline brass is great, just fun for anything up to about 95% of full power. I don't shoot a lot of full power .454 because it is pretty unpleasant, so most of my loading is handled nicely with Starline brass.
I'm happy to have Starline as an option now! Learning every day.
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