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thegreyman
10-06-17, 07:36
Locally, there are still many "negative vibs" relative to QC at Remington; would like to have input from recent purchasers. Any LE Remington 700P or LTR Rifles in 6.5 Creedmoor or .260? Threaded? Rifles from Huntsville?
My brother's Remington tactical in 308 has been wonderful. His is the one with short barrell and threaded. I would buy one.
My experience?
2016 700P in .223 and one in .308.
1) Firing pin hole in the bolt way too big. Primer flow, pierced primers, light strikes.
2) Bolt handle too far back, zero primary extraction.
3) Chamber throated way too long.
4) Rear of the receiver top on a lower plane than the front. Scope base needs bedding.
Other than that, they're actually straighter and squarer than the older ones. They both shot sub-moa out of the box, but you're essentially getting a wobbly, wore-out gun.
Travis Stevens rebuilt my .223 and $2500 later it's a pretty nice rifle!
sandsunsurf
10-08-17, 23:38
My very old (2008?) rem 700ltr in .223 (bedded, threaded and re-crowned) is the 1/4 MOA tack driver of my dreams. My other rem700s have been good, but not amazing. I think I like my Bergara 6.5cm better than all the Remmys but the .223, but it’s still only about a .75 MOA gun. Still putting some work into it. My ‘smith said that he thought the Bergara was a pretty faithful reproduction of a 700 to include the receiver-barrel thread, but slightly better done. So in conclusion, look at other options, but balance the price and there may be some viable options vs. the older tried and true Remmy.
Picked up a new Remington 700 Tactical Chassis (MDT TAC 21). At the range sighting in with Hornady 300 Win Mag 200 gr ELD-X® Precision Hunter®. Rounds fed easily; however, once fired the bolt becomes difficult to open - requires a lot of force. Fired 20 rounds and same problem with each. Weapon was cleaned and lubed prior to trip to the range. Contacted Hornady and they replied: "We have two employees that had chamber issues, one recut their chamber and the other had theirs polished and it corrected the issue.* You might inquire with Remington about this it sounds to be the same issue." Contacted Remington and their response: "Sounds like something in the chamber and we would need to bring that in to get that fixed."
Not a good sign concerning quality control.
Picked up a new Remington 700 Tactical Chassis (MDT TAC 21). At the range sighting in with Hornady 300 Win Mag 200 gr ELD-X® Precision Hunter®. Rounds fed easily; however, once fired the bolt becomes difficult to open - requires a lot of force. Fired 20 rounds and same problem with each. Weapon was cleaned and lubed prior to trip to the range. Contacted Hornady and they replied: "We have two employees that had chamber issues, one recut their chamber and the other had theirs polished and it corrected the issue.* You might inquire with Remington about this it sounds to be the same issue." Contacted Remington and their response: "Sounds like something in the chamber and we would need to bring that in to get that fixed."
Not a good sign concerning quality control.
That is definitely not encouraging news.
Check out the savage lineup.
Picked up a new Remington 700 Tactical Chassis (MDT TAC 21). At the range sighting in with Hornady 300 Win Mag 200 gr ELD-X[emoji768] Precision Hunter[emoji768]. Rounds fed easily; however, once fired the bolt becomes difficult to open - requires a lot of force. Fired 20 rounds and same problem with each. Weapon was cleaned and lubed prior to trip to the range. Contacted Hornady and they replied: "We have two employees that had chamber issues, one recut their chamber and the other had theirs polished and it corrected the issue.* You might inquire with Remington about this it sounds to be the same issue." Contacted Remington and their response: "Sounds like something in the chamber and we would need to bring that in to get that fixed."
Not a good sign concerning quality control.
There have been lots of reports of poor quality control at Hornady recently. I wouldn't be quick to throw Remington under the bus for this one. Those are classic over-pressure signs. Remington wants to CYA. Remington reputation is typically generous chambers.
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In 2017, don't look toward Remington, Savage, Winchester, etc anymore.
If you want a factory rifle, look at Tikka T3X CTRs. Also consider the Howa line.
Otherwise, build a semi-custom. I really like the Remington action, especially the older ones. But their QC sucks almost as bad as Savage.
I would look for a used custom 700 or just buy an AAC "Tactical" model and gamble that you may need to rebarrel it *if* you insist on a Remington action.
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Bergara is pretty sweet too.
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Don't Tread On Me
10-16-17, 08:44
In 2017, don't look toward Remington, Savage, Winchester, etc anymore.
Not being a smart-ass, as I would genuinely like to know, but could you clarify this statement? My last experience with Remington and Savage bolt guns was nearly 10 years ago now, and they were both fine guns. One was an issued M24 and the Savage was a friend's poor-man's precision rifle. Has quality on all of the big players really slipped that bad?
MarshallDodge
10-17-17, 09:49
In 2017, don't look toward Remington, Savage, Winchester, etc anymore.
If you want a factory rifle, look at Tikka T3X CTRs. Also consider the Howa line.
Otherwise, build a semi-custom. I really like the Remington action, especially the older ones. But their QC sucks almost as bad as Savage.
I would look for a used custom 700 or just buy an AAC "Tactical" model and gamble that you may need to rebarrel it *if* you insist on a Remington action.
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It would seem that the big 3 that you mentioned are racing their way to the bottom. My experience has been hit and miss with Remington the last couple years with one 700 shooting sub MOA and the other two couldn't shoot inside 2 MOA with match ammo.
The Tikka option is not as good of a deal as it once was and while they have their oddities, they do shoot well.
While no personal experience, looking at what Bergera is offering these days, I think they are the best bang for the buck and use a Remington footprint which opens up a whole world of options.
Some guy at the range said if the gun had the digital etching code thingy under the bolt handle, your action was likely good because it was all CNC'd at one station.
I owned 223 308 and 300wm Remmy 700 5 r guns. All were 1/2 inch guns.
I owned 223 308 and 300wm Remmy 700 5 r guns. All were 1/2 inch guns.
What year production?
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I bought them 5 or 6 years ago. My 223 was the most accurate. It cloverleaf all the time for 5 shot groups.
PB
I had good luck with Remington's from the same time. My 2013 and my spouse's 2016 aren't doing so great. I actually own a 2010-2011 CDL that is a laser that's chambered in a cartridge not necessarily known for accuracy. I'm currently in need of a new varmint rifle in .223 and I'm heavily leaning to Tikka or Sako because I'm afraid to give Remington another shot. I have 500 pieces of Lapua brass and an S&B waiting....
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I had good luck with Remington's from the same time. My 2013 and my spouse's 2016 aren't doing so great. I actually own a 2010-2011 CDL that is a laser that's chambered in a cartridge not necessarily known for accuracy. I'm currently in need of a new varmint rifle in .223 and I'm heavily leaning to Tikka or Sako because I'm afraid to give Remington another shot. I have 500 pieces of Lapua brass and an S&B waiting....
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I owned a TIKKA in 22-250 and it was a laser beam too. Sold it because I planned to buy it in 223 but never did. Tikka is hard to beat. Very hard to beat.
I owned a TIKKA in 22-250 and it was a laser beam too. Sold it because I planned to buy it in 223 but never did. Tikka is hard to beat. Very hard to beat.
Indeed. I had a guy trade me a NIB T3X in .308 a few weeks ago. I stuck my Mark 4 on it and started load development. For a plastic stock and unfloated barrel, I can't settle on a load. I've tried six bullets with six powder combos and it shoots them all 3/4" with occasional 1/2" groups from each combo. I don't think I'll see a difference until I put a good stock on it...not that it's needed for whitetail.
As a Remington fanboy, it's refreshing to reach the lands and feed from the magazine.
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There have been lots of reports of poor quality control at Hornady recently. I wouldn't be quick to throw Remington under the bus for this one. Those are classic over-pressure signs. Remington wants to CYA. Remington reputation is typically generous chambers.
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Had my gun smith inspect the rifle. He said he has never seen a chamber so scarred. He polished it and now the rifle works as it was designed to. Can only be attributed to poor quality control at Remington.
Had my gun smith inspect the rifle. He said he has never seen a chamber so scarred. He polished it and now the rifle works as it was designed to. Can only be attributed to poor quality control at Remington.
Glad you got it worked out! Let us know how it shoots now!
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How would one make a sound decision?
1-Buy something that more than likely will be a problem
2-Buy something that is highly unlikely to have a problem
Why people continue to buy like number one is beyond me.
Eurodriver
10-19-17, 07:43
How would one make a sound decision?
1-Buy something that more than likely will be a problem
2-Buy something that is highly unlikely to have a problem
Why people continue to buy like number one is beyond me.
If I could make love to a forum post, this one would be it.
A freaking men.
How would one make a sound decision?
1-Buy something that more than likely will be a problem
2-Buy something that is highly unlikely to have a problem
Why people continue to buy like number one is beyond me.
Some times you buy hoping not to have issues - but know you may have to spend a few dollars on correcting faults. As an example, Kimber pistols come with most of the features people like in a 1911; however, sometimes they need a gunsmith to make them reliable. With Remington, especially the 700 actions one expects smooth, reliable operation; whereas, accuracy may not be acceptable. Wouldn't expect to have to fix bolt operation. Lesson learned.
See that's the point hoping verses knowing or in the 700 case should have known from a reasonable informed persons standpoint.
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