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Eurodriver
10-11-17, 04:29
The most “powerful” nation in the world can’t field a team of soccer players that can beat, or even tie, tiny Caribbean or Central American countries.
Wow. Just wow.
I dunno why REAL football isnt popular here like everywhere else.
People will spend money to watch a bunch of spoiled, bitch ass males play a faggy version of rugby but dont care about the beautiful game of FOOTBALL.
Disclosure, in my youth, I loved me some FOOTBALL. I mean I really dug it it. I was a goalie from blackest hell. Even before life, injury, and God having a personal grudge against me got in the way; I'd play pick up games with the Julios.
It is a game of tactics and war. A game of rivalry and pain. You will work for your goal. Its like hockey but real and not polluted with Canadians.
I mean....I can watch FOOTBALL all damn day, and I have. See....FOOTBALL is essentially these places repping their countries. No kneeling, no whining. They are there to murder the other nation in a sport of ruthlessness. It os one step below actual military action. Why do you think people shave their heads and riot?
And you people care ooooh soooo much about your college American Football.
SMDH
Completely inexcusable, we are better than this.
As a convert to the beautiful game (yes, it is very much a battle) I am embarrassed by our failures.
I missed the game due to watching a couple of local HS teams play a super high energy game that went into overtime. My daughter's HS team is undefeated and I'm still encouraging their coach to help them play better as we head to the state playoffs.
I really thought Bruce Arenas was better than this.
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Sounds about right. I don't mean this in a negative way it's just not a popular sport here. Kids in those small Caribbean countries (and others ad well) grow up playing football. They've had decades of practice. No different than kids playing baseball or American football here. Back in the old country when I was a kid my parents sent me to football camp and I played in school during breaks and after school with friends. Lost that when I came here
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I was going to troll hard an say: "Because no one in America really cares that much about soccer."
But I realize that's a bit of a lowblow. As much as I like to joke, tis the truth.
I really enjoy the competitiveness, the competition of the sport, but just haven't been able to get into it unless it's the Cup or sumn.
I dunno why REAL football isnt popular here like everywhere else.
People will spend money to watch a bunch of spoiled, bitch ass males play a faggy version of rugby but dont care about the beautiful game of FOOTBALL.
Disclosure, in my youth, I loved me some FOOTBALL. I mean I really dug it it. I was a goalie from blackest hell. Even before life, injury, and God having a personal grudge against me got in the way; I'd play pick up games with the Julios.
It is a game of tactics and war. A game of rivalry and pain. You will work for your goal. Its like hockey but real and not polluted with Canadians.
I mean....I can watch FOOTBALL all damn day, and I have. See....FOOTBALL is essentially these places repping their countries. No kneeling, no whining. They are there to murder the other nation in a sport of ruthlessness. It os one step below actual military action. Why do you think people shave their heads and riot?
And you people care ooooh soooo much about your college American Football.
SMDH
This.
American Football shouldn't be called football.
skywalkrNCSU
10-11-17, 08:11
I dunno why REAL football isnt popular here like everywhere else.
People will spend money to watch a bunch of spoiled, bitch ass males play a faggy version of rugby but dont care about the beautiful game of FOOTBALL.
Disclosure, in my youth, I loved me some FOOTBALL. I mean I really dug it it. I was a goalie from blackest hell. Even before life, injury, and God having a personal grudge against me got in the way; I'd play pick up games with the Julios.
It is a game of tactics and war. A game of rivalry and pain. You will work for your goal. Its like hockey but real and not polluted with Canadians.
I mean....I can watch FOOTBALL all damn day, and I have. See....FOOTBALL is essentially these places repping their countries. No kneeling, no whining. They are there to murder the other nation in a sport of ruthlessness. It os one step below actual military action. Why do you think people shave their heads and riot?
And you people care ooooh soooo much about your college American Football.
SMDH
Because any sport that can end in a 0-0 tie sucks and soccer is no exception. Not to mention the way the players cry and moan in agony if someone breathes on them too hard and the ref might be looking. Talk about a bitch sport.
I dunno why REAL football isnt popular here like everywhere else.
People will spend money to watch a bunch of spoiled, bitch ass males play a faggy version of rugby but dont care about the beautiful game of FOOTBALL.
Disclosure, in my youth, I loved me some FOOTBALL. I mean I really dug it it. I was a goalie from blackest hell. Even before life, injury, and God having a personal grudge against me got in the way; I'd play pick up games with the Julios.
It is a game of tactics and war. A game of rivalry and pain. You will work for your goal. Its like hockey but real and not polluted with Canadians.
I mean....I can watch FOOTBALL all damn day, and I have. See....FOOTBALL is essentially these places repping their countries. No kneeling, no whining. They are there to murder the other nation in a sport of ruthlessness. It os one step below actual military action. Why do you think people shave their heads and riot?
And you people care ooooh soooo much about your college American Football.
SMDH
Because Americans really aren't enamored with running around in faggoty-ass high socks kicking a ball around? It wants pads and high-speed cracking, replete with concussions and injuries. "Man, did you see that hit?" Not a cardio game but one of violence; it's the American way! I have ZERO use for soccer, and I guess most Americans feel the same way. They're not fond of having some Euro/Latin sport rammed down their throats.
All that said, my interest in football has waned the last few years, and ESPECIALLY this year with the shenanigans at anthem time. The reason you don't see a lot of that crap with soccer is that soccer teams are like mercenaries......a given team with have foreign nationals playing on it to a large degree.
Now rugby? That is what football has devolved from, I'll give you that.
Because any sport that can end in a 0-0 tie sucks and soccer is no exception. Not to mention the way the players cry and moan in agony if someone breathes on them too hard and the ref might be looking. Talk about a bitch sport.
I wasn't going to be that harsh but that was pretty spot on!
faggoty-ass high socks kicking a ball around?
having some Euro/Latin sport rammed down their throats.
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I wasn't going to be that harsh but that was pretty spot on!
Lol
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I dunno why REAL football isnt popular here like everywhere else.
SMDH
Simple answer...... it is gay...... :)
I'm not big into sports. Really don't care if the Bangles beat the Penguins or whatever! However I never could get into football or baseball. The only two main sports where most people stand around and sometimes something happens!
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Lol
Laugh all you want, it's NOT an American sport. It's NOT winning over hearts and minds here in the U.S. to any large degree. To suggest that it should be so is not being realistic. That would be akin to trying to make Europe and Latin American accept American football. It won't work. Don't take it as a personal affront, you've experienced the transition from another country to here in your life......are you surprised?
Edit: I was more into sports in the past than I am now. Baseball has always been a "slow" sport, never was a huge fan (but played Little League like most American kids did). Never cared for basketball at all. Football has been my primary interest but this year has turned me off.
Laugh all you want, it's NOT an American sport. It's NOT winning over hearts and minds here in the U.S. to any large degree. To suggest that it should be so is not being realistic. That would be akin to trying to make Europe and Latin American accept American football. It won't work. Don't take it as a personal affront, you've experienced the transition from another country to here in your life......are you surprised?
Edit: I was more into sports in the past than I am now. Baseball has always been a "slow" sport, never was a huge fan (but played Little League like most American kids did). Never cared for basketball at all. Football has been my primary interest but this year has turned me off.I was laughing at the fact that one the one had it was all "faggoty" and on the other it was "I wasn't going to be that harsh"
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I was laughing at the fact that one the one had it was all "faggoty" and on the other it was "I wasn't going to be that harsh"
Yeah, was a bit of a dichotomy eh? :cool:
Football, out types- are pretty stupid. Fun to play as a kid but boring and annoying to watch on TV. Going to the games is worse, pay out the ear for everything, crammed into a stadium of drunk idiots who put more importance into these games the. They do into the real world.
I couldn't care less about most sports. Hockey is the only one I like. It's actually got non stop action, it's not commercialized to the point of being sickening and the players are just wanting to play the game hard and leave their personal politics and BS at home for the most part.
It's no surprise we don't have a good showing when it's a sport that barely survives here in the states.
Football, out types- are pretty stupid. Fun to play as a kid but boring and annoying to watch on TV. Going to the games is worse, pay out the ear for everything, crammed into a stadium of drunk idiots who put more importance into these games the. They do into the real world.
I couldn't care less about most sports. Hockey is the only one I like. It's actually got non stop action, it's not commercialized to the point of being sickening and the players are just wanting to play the game hard and leave their personal politics and BS at home.
Hockey is Futball on ice with an occasional boxing match thrown in...
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ColtSeavers
10-11-17, 09:45
Having a feeling one way or thr other would require me to give a Rat's Ass about professional organized sports to begin with, and I just don't do that.
Hockey is Futball on ice with an occasional boxing match thrown in...
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and scoring...
With the track record of riots, murder, and even war because of soccer, and yes I will call it soccer because I am at the point if the sport doesn't involve a gun I really don't care about it. Do we really want to give people in the US another reason to riot and burn shit down, be it in celebration. a la college towns the country over, or because of a "bad" call, or scream racism when they get their ass kicked so hard their asshole is mistaken for their mouth? The world hates us enough as it is. Let's not give them any more reason. Besides, you got to let the dumb kid win at something once in a while.
sundance435
10-11-17, 10:26
Soccer's lack of popularity here vs. elsewhere, I think, has more to do with culture and economics. In poor countries, and wealthier countries with urban poor, kids can literally make their own soccer ball out of whatever they can find and play on a patch of ground. You can't really do that with football and baseball - though kids in Latin countries manage to still play baseball. Look at the most popular sport in poorer urban areas in the U.S. - basketball - same concept as soccer - you just need a ball and a court, nothing else. Culturally, kids here that might otherwise take up soccer already have basketball and you can fit 3-4 basketball courts in the area it would take to have a proper soccer match.
I liked soccer as a kid and I'll tune in for some World Cup matches, but football and baseball are my sports pastimes. As I get older, I have more and more appreciation for baseball. Still though, one would think that a country of 330 million could field a respectable national team in any sport...
I don’t care what the rest of the world does. This is the United States, soccer is not a big deal here.
I’m going to call it soccer, because that’s what it is. I’m not going to dump on how I personally feel about it.
The only way I see soccer taking off here, is of the NFL continues to screw the pooch and goes down over it. If the NFL fails there will be an opening, and either soccer or rugby will move in.
Simply put, this is the United States. We’re different. We like our big gas guzzling vehicles, our guns, and our freedom to not be like the rest of the world. We are what we are because we don’t want to be like everybody else. When you start seeing “herd ball” start to become mainstream in this country, we truly lost our identity.
I don’t care what the rest of the world does. This is the United States, soccer is not a big deal here.
I’m going to call it soccer, because that’s what it is. I’m not going to dump on how I personally feel about it.
The only way I see soccer taking off here, is of the NFL continues to screw the pooch and goes down over it. If the NFL fails there will be an opening, and either soccer or rugby will move in.
Simply put, this is the United States. We’re different. We like our big gas guzzling vehicles, our guns, and our freedom to not be like the rest of the world. We are what we are because we don’t want to be like everybody else. When you start seeing “herd ball” start to become mainstream in this country, we truly lost our identity.
Very succinctly put. Pretty much how I feel about it.
titsonritz
10-11-17, 16:03
Who cares? It's 3rd world kick the can.
Soccer is effen dumb! Everyone around here, including me played during grade school years and walked away later. They ve been telling us for decades how superior the fooseball is and how it will be the future.... along with the metric system and year round school. I thought they sounded dumb telling us that back then and it almost puts me in cramps laughing about it now.
Importing david beckham and posh spice couldnt drum up enough interest, im not even syre theyre still here. Even better (IMO) is the local team, philadelphia union (which im sure is in no way derived from manchester united lol) has its major sponsor "Bimbo" across its jerseys. Often accompanied by someone having to correct ones pronuciation back to "Beeeembo" I'm sure that doesnt get tiring at all.
Soccer...the official sport of socialism!
I used to race MX big time
one of the most physical demanding sports in the world often #2 or #3 on ranking soccer rugby was usually one notch above it
American football was like #50 something
baseball was even worse :)
when I lived in the Caribbean you would get college kids coming through many from Europe where its popular and many on college teams
they would play with the local kids in the dirt field and often get there butts handed to them by young teens :)
what they did not realize is I would see those kids every day kicking a ball around :)
I do think some of the reason is those kids in that area that grow up on this truly do it all the time every day for fun
here dad takes the kid to a $500 a month practice for 1 hour a day maybe a bit more some do it for a hour in school and a few other practices
very few practice way more than that and truly live breathe the sport no matter what sport that is
maybe some kids in some part of US do play all day in the fields and those are the ones getting the scholar ships and rocking in HS etc...
bottom line on soccer its not popular and also its way to tough and brutal for many here
but funny as most soccer players act like freaking girls with fake falls and fake hits etc..
not a fan of any group sport I prefer small individual and some team like bicycle
another bottom line who cares :) its a freaking sport and if our world is focused on who plays better sports rather than educate invent etc.. we are even more hosed :)
our Country is sil the best in the world despite so many folks even here supporting racist people who disrespect our flag and our country and its fallen and serving which is why many alone should ban football big time send the message but again football is like #50 on the list of being physical which kinda shows in the fans to I feel
platoonDaddy
10-11-17, 17:59
What an embarrassment. Coaching staff and head of USA soccer should be fired.
Because any sport that can end in a 0-0 tie sucks and soccer is no exception. Not to mention the way the players cry and moan in agony if someone breathes on them too hard and the ref might be looking. Talk about a bitch sport.
Hey we agree on something! :)
Soccer is gaining steam, though. Too many parents not letting their kids play football now. Combined with a growing immigrant population who loves it, will see it get stronger here.
I wanted to play soccer as a kid, and there really wasn't an option anywhere close to us. Just wasn't available. My kids generation was the first one that it was easier to get on a soccer team than football. And really was the norm, probably more than any of the other sports
One other thing, I'm kind of glad they're not there because they'd just be kneeling and create another controversy.
I'm done with prima donna sports, music, and Hollywood stars.
If they're going to posture, I'm going to turn off. And won't even take the chance that they will if I have to pay for it, just stopped buying.
Get off my lawn!
[QUOTE=sgtrock82
Soccer...the official sport of socialism![/QUOTE]
Funny, my high school football coach always said that soccer is a communist sport.
One other thing, I'm kind of glad they're not there because they'd just be kneeling and create another controversy.
I'm done with prima donna sports, music, and Hollywood stars.
If they're going to posture, I'm going to turn off. And won't even take the chance that they will if I have to pay for it, just stopped buying.
Get off my lawn!
Actually a whole other discussion, but I agree. I have actors, musicians, cartoonists, writers, ect, who i will not patronize because they want to open their mouths about their political beliefs and imply if I am not agreeing with them that I am not welcome, or that i am an idiot, or worse.
While I don't care for their music, Gene Simmons once made the comment to the effect that if you were a celebrity that you ought to shut up about politics. You know what, I respect that man a hell of a lot more than 99.99999% of all other celebrities for that regardless of his opinions because he is keeping his opinions to himself.
And while on that subjects of celebrities tell me what I should think. Since the profanity laced rant would get me banned. Here is a nice song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJk08NbTEAk
While I don't care for their music, Gene Simmons once made the comment to the effect that if you were a celebrity that you ought to shut up about politics. You know what, I respect that man a hell of a lot more than 99.99999% of all other celebrities for that regardless of his opinions because he is keeping his opinions to himself.
Grotesque as he was (is), he was a very Savvy businessman. And a businessman first, musician second. (If you can even say that!)
Grotesque as he was (is), he was a very Savvy businessman. And a businessman first, musician second. (If you can even say that!)
Oh, he was probably, of his era, one of the best businessmen in his business. But, compared to a lot of his ilk, then and especially now, he is far from stupid. And that I can respect. By all means, hock your product, but don't think that because you have made money you have the right to tell me what to believe. I think he gets that. There have been other bands, since we are on the subject of music who have not gotten that and cut their own throats.
Funny, my high school football coach always said that soccer is a communist sport.
You laugh! It will be the one world official sport
The only soccer game id ever watch would have been England vs Germany, No mans land, christmas 1914.
"Sport" used to mean contests or exhibitions of skills needed or valued in life, like hunting and fighting, and usually involved the real possibility of death or grievous injury. Stick and ball games? Who cares?
ColtSeavers
10-11-17, 22:55
"Sport" used to mean contests or exhibitions of skills needed or valued in life, like hunting and fighting, and usually involved the real possibility of death or grievous injury. Stick and ball games? Who cares?
Damn right!
http://www.grittv.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Bloodsport_1280x7201.jpg
Nightvisionary
10-11-17, 23:57
I would like to see Americans in general lose interest in spending their time, money, and energies watching other grown men play with rubber balls. Perhaps then they would have more time to focus on slowing down the rapid ongoing destruction of our nation.
Moose-Knuckle
10-12-17, 07:10
Some basic bitch would have just "taken a knee" during the anthem while the world watched yet stood for the opposing team's anthem.
Crisis averted.
skywalkrNCSU
10-12-17, 08:13
I would like to see Americans in general lose interest in spending their time, money, and energies watching other grown men play with rubber balls. Perhaps then they would have more time to focus on slowing down the rapid ongoing destruction of our nation.
Yeah god forbid anyone get any enjoyment from entertainment. They should all be sitting around brooding while contemplating the issues going on with this country in any of their spare time. No time for hobbies or entertainment of any kind unless they are ones I happen to agree with.
I dunno why REAL football isnt popular here like everywhere else.
People will spend money to watch a bunch of spoiled, bitch ass males play a faggy version of rugby but dont care about the beautiful game of FOOTBALL.
The inexorable and inevitable death of American football is taking place even as we speak. First the whole CTE issue, now the well-publicized arrogance and self-importance of American football players deciding that their fame and celebrity in that already-dying sport represents a good platform for political protest. With concussions more of a problem than anything we realized, and youth/highschool football getting a very hard look, it's only a matter of time before the relatively safe sport of soccer supplants football as the main sport in the US, as it is in the rest of the world.
If I was the governor of a state and an NFL owner came to me to ask the state to build them a football stadium, if I didn't laugh in their face, I would at least make sure that the stadium would be suitable for conversion to a soccer stadium. Otherwise, I can't imagine a worse multi-milion dollar investment at this time in the history of American sports.
The inexorable and inevitable death of American football is taking place even as we speak. First the whole CTE issue, now the well-publicized arrogance and self-importance of American football players deciding that their fame and celebrity in that already-dying sport represents a good platform for political protest. With concussions more of a problem than anything we realized, and youth/highschool football getting a very hard look, it's only a matter of time before the relatively safe sport of soccer supplants football as the main sport in the US, as it is in the rest of the world.
If I was the governor of a state and an NFL owner came to me to ask the state to build them a football stadium, if I didn't laugh in their face, I would at least make sure that the stadium would be suitable for conversion to a soccer stadium. Otherwise, I can't imagine a worse multi-milion dollar investment at this time in the history of American sports.
I would rather see NO sport replace football than it be soccer. Maybe baseball and basketball or even hockey rise in popularity. But soccer makes us just like the rest of the world, and I ain't interested!
I would rather see NO sport replace football than it be soccer. Maybe baseball and basketball or even hockey rise in popularity. But soccer makes us just like the rest of the world, and I ain't interested!
I suspect soccer will be more likely to catch on once American football finally dies, it will take years, but it's already coughing up blood. I think the best place to observe that process is in the middle schools and high schools. As we wring our hands over poor little Johnny's concussion with mom and dad's helicopter hovering over his life, we see fewer and fewer kids going out for high school football and an even more precipitous drop in youth league football. OTOH, those middle schoolers and youth league-age kids in particular are signing up for soccer in impressive numbers.
Rayrevolver
10-12-17, 09:55
As an American who grew up overseas, I have some opinions on this. I will say I hate South American soccer, too much drama and falling down. If I had to choose to watch then it would be the Premier League. Even then, I don't. Watching games every 4 years is good enough for me.
Stick ball/wiffle ball is pretty cheap. You spray paint the strike zone on the wall, get a bat and ball. Wassup? Need to send wiffle ball care packages to the world.
I heard Sean Puff Daddy Combs wants to buy the entire NFL. That should make it more interesting!
I find some of the sentiments expressed here in this thread so odd… With the exception of a few members, I'm usually in agreement with what other posters here have to say.
Its just another game played with a ball. Its no better or worse than any other game played with a ball. Its not a threat to our American Heritage. Its not a personal insult that people in other countries like to kick a ball into a net.
I played for 8 years and loved it. Most of the kids I grew up with played too. Went all the way to the state championship one year. I only quit playing because I wasn't very good at it, and because I had to grow up and go to work. I'm frankly surprised that more people here didn't play as kids. I suppose its not as popular in other parts of the country as it was where I grew up in the 70s and 80s. They didn't have AYSO where you guys grew up? I don't see why anyone would consider this flu contact sport as "gay" or "faggoty". Nothing gay about the injuries I saw or dealt out. Broken noses, sprained ankles, concussions, broken femurs… hell, I played my sophomore year of high school with two broken toes that I had to tape up before every game and practice. We had one guy on one of my tens that was guilty of that drama queen BS, but we punished him for it and he stopped. But I've seen that in every sport. Soccer/Futbol has no monopoly on drama queen sissies.
Following and obsessing over the achievements of other grown men who play a game for a living, in the way that "sports fans" do, is really strange to me too. I don't get it for any sport. I suppose its just not my thing. Some people can't understand why I'm impressed with a sub 9 second El Presidente Drill, or two shots on a moving target from concealment in less than one second, so I suppose "to each his own…" is how I should leave it.
If it happens to be on the TV, I will watch some World Cup, Hockey, or Motocross, but no sport dictates how I spend my time or money.
As far as the NFL is concerned, I've never been a fan, but after the last couple of months, I've grown to despise them and some of the people affiliated with them. They should have just played their game and sold their stupid $1000 tickets, and stayed out of politics. Dummies.
I find some of the sentiments expressed here in this thread so odd… With the exception of a few members, I'm usually in agreement with what other posters here have to say.
Its just another game played with a ball. Its no better or worse than any other game played with a ball. Its not a threat to our American Heritage. Its not a personal insult that people in other countries like to kick a ball into a net.
I played for 8 years and loved it. Most of the kids I grew up with played too. Went all the way to the state championship one year. I only quit playing because I wasn't very good at it, and because I had to grow up and go to work. I'm frankly surprised that more people here didn't play as kids. I suppose its not as popular in other parts of the country as it was where I grew up in the 70s and 80s. They didn't have AYSO where you guys grew up? I don't see why anyone would consider this flu contact sport as "gay" or "faggoty". Nothing gay about the injuries I saw or dealt out. Broken noses, sprained ankles, concussions, broken femurs… hell, I played my sophomore year of high school with two broken toes that I had to tape up before every game and practice. We had one guy on one of my tens that was guilty of that drama queen BS, but we punished him for it and he stopped. But I've seen that in every sport. Soccer/Futbol has no monopoly on drama queen sissies.
Following and obsessing over the achievements of other grown men who play a game for a living, in the way that "sports fans" do, is really strange to me too. I don't get it for any sport. I suppose its just not my thing. Some people can't understand why I'm impressed with a sub 9 second El Presidente Drill, or two shots on a moving target from concealment in less than one second, so I suppose "to each his own…" is how I should leave it.
If it happens to be on the TV, I will watch some World Cup, Hockey, or Motocross, but no sport dictates how I spend my time or money.
As far as the NFL is concerned, I've never been a fan, but after the last couple of months, I've grown to despise them and some of the people affiliated with them. They should have just played their game and sold their stupid $1000 tickets, and stayed out of politics. Dummies.
Is it a symbol of what we as Americans don't want to be. True, it is a sport like any other but it is not an inherently American sport and for those of us with a nationalistic flair about us it is counterintuitive to want to see it here. I have never liked it, find it boring, and it isn't violent like football (yes, that seems to be inherently American too, guilty as charged). While the NFL's current debacle has certainly won them no new friends and has likely cost them old ones, the sheer "pad up and crack the shit out of someone" aspect of it is what turns other nations off to it and that makes me like it even better! Better to prance around in high socks and kick a ball.....meh.
"Sport" used to mean contests or exhibitions of skills needed or valued in life, like hunting and fighting, and usually involved the real possibility of death or grievous injury. Stick and ball games? Who cares?Didn't the Incas play a form of basketball where to loosing team lost their lives?
I don't see hunting as a sport. Sitting and waiting not really a show of skill. At least not by the hunters I see around here.
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I would rather see NO sport replace football than it be soccer. Maybe baseball and basketball or even hockey rise in popularity. But soccer makes us just like the rest of the world, and I ain't interested!Hockey and basketball are both international sports. Even football is just Rugby (simplified comparison). But I guess I don't look at sports the same way. To me it's an occasional form of entertainment and not related to national pride or what country it's from. I'm happy to root for any team or country .... whatever the case may be....have a few beers and enjoy the game for what it is
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Is it a symbol of what we as Americans don't want to be. True, it is a sport like any other but it is not an inherently American sport and for those of us with a nationalistic flair about us it is counterintuitive to want to see it here. I have never liked it, find it boring, and it isn't violent like football (yes, that seems to be inherently American too, guilty as charged). While the NFL's current debacle has certainly won them no new friends and has likely cost them old ones, the sheer "pad up and crack the shit out of someone" aspect of it is what turns other nations off to it and that makes me like it even better! Better to prance around in high socks and kick a ball.....meh.Wouldn't hockey be more violent....with fist fights and all.
Soccer is more violent for the fans! :D
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Hockey and basketball are both international sports. Even football is just Rugby (simplified comparison). But I guess I don't look at sports the same way. To me it's an occasional form of entertainment and not related to national pride or what country it's from. I'm happy to root for any team or country .... whatever the case may be....have a few beers and enjoy the game for what it is
I'm far from a diehard sports fan, believe me. I used to watch football much more when I was younger. Interest has faded as I've gotten older. I played both pee-wee and freshman football and enjoyed it. I grew up watching it (my family, especially my dad's side, were/are fanatics). The fact that it is rather violent is what made it cool to me. Waiting for "the big hit" or wanting to see Tom Brady crushed! Perhaps that is why I never really liked watching baseball (other than playing as a kid).....like watching paint dry. Basketball is faster paced but haven't cared for it. Hockey never really caught on with me for some reason; maybe because it's fast paced but low scoring? Soccer probably falls into that category too like hockey.
Football was big, mean dudes knocking the hell out of each other. Now what is more American than that?!
sundance435
10-12-17, 13:26
I find some of the sentiments expressed here in this thread so odd… With the exception of a few members, I'm usually in agreement with what other posters here have to say.
Its just another game played with a ball. Its no better or worse than any other game played with a ball. Its not a threat to our American Heritage. Its not a personal insult that people in other countries like to kick a ball into a net.
I played for 8 years and loved it. Most of the kids I grew up with played too. Went all the way to the state championship one year. I only quit playing because I wasn't very good at it, and because I had to grow up and go to work. I'm frankly surprised that more people here didn't play as kids. I suppose its not as popular in other parts of the country as it was where I grew up in the 70s and 80s. They didn't have AYSO where you guys grew up? I don't see why anyone would consider this flu contact sport as "gay" or "faggoty". Nothing gay about the injuries I saw or dealt out. Broken noses, sprained ankles, concussions, broken femurs… hell, I played my sophomore year of high school with two broken toes that I had to tape up before every game and practice. We had one guy on one of my tens that was guilty of that drama queen BS, but we punished him for it and he stopped. But I've seen that in every sport. Soccer/Futbol has no monopoly on drama queen sissies.
Following and obsessing over the achievements of other grown men who play a game for a living, in the way that "sports fans" do, is really strange to me too. I don't get it for any sport. I suppose its just not my thing. Some people can't understand why I'm impressed with a sub 9 second El Presidente Drill, or two shots on a moving target from concealment in less than one second, so I suppose "to each his own…" is how I should leave it.
If it happens to be on the TV, I will watch some World Cup, Hockey, or Motocross, but no sport dictates how I spend my time or money.
As far as the NFL is concerned, I've never been a fan, but after the last couple of months, I've grown to despise them and some of the people affiliated with them. They should have just played their game and sold their stupid $1000 tickets, and stayed out of politics. Dummies.
I think most of us just find it boring. Incidentally, that's also why I'm losing interest in the NFL - they've ruled the game to death and it's become boring.
I'm far from a diehard sports fan, believe me. I used to watch football much more when I was younger. Interest has faded as I've gotten older. I played both pee-wee and freshman football and enjoyed it. I grew up watching it (my family, especially my dad's side, were/are fanatics). The fact that it is rather violent is what made it cool to me. Waiting for "the big hit" or wanting to see Tom Brady crushed! Perhaps that is why I never really liked watching baseball (other than playing as a kid).....like watching paint dry. Basketball is faster paced but haven't cared for it. Hockey never really caught on with me for some reason; maybe because it's fast paced but low scoring? Soccer probably falls into that category too like hockey.
Football was big, mean dudes knocking the hell out of each other. Now what is more American than that?!I've had this discussion with a co-worker. He doesn't like low scoring sports either. I always said it's the same "goal" or "score" just the number assigned to them is different. 3 goals can be 3 points or 300 points! Still 3 goals.
I never cared for basketball either. Probably because out of all the sports I played I was the worst at basketball. Not that I was that good at any other sport but when it came to basketball it was like my watching Steve Urkel play!
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I think most of us just find it boring. Incidentally, that's also why I'm losing interest in the NFL - they've ruled the game to death and it's become boring.
I find soccer boring, but I find NFL football to be boring too. I haven’t truly been interested in any football game since Nebraska played Oklahoma in 1971 (I was a student at Nebraska at the time). And I find basketball boring, and find baseball excrutiatingly boring. Yeah, I’m not exactly a Sports Fan. I don’t care if soccer supplants football...I’d just be ignoring soccer instead of ignoring football.
I didn’t think there was anything that could make me less interested in NFL football, but by golly those guys found a way. The NFL antics-of-the-day are just a pathetic sideshow by a group of people that are in exactly the same category as Hollywood actors and Grammy winners when it comes to relevance to society, despite what they all appear to think of themselves.
The_War_Wagon
10-12-17, 17:38
The most “powerful” nation in the world can’t field a team of soccer players that can beat, or even tie, tiny Caribbean or Central American countries.
Wow. Just wow.
NOT a real sport - fornications NOT given. :stop:
wildcard600
10-12-17, 18:37
The most “powerful” nation in the world can’t field a team of soccer players that can beat, or even tie, tiny Caribbean or Central American countries.
Wow. Just wow.
We also don't have a home grown Formula one team (Haas aka Ferrari satellite team does not count), and let the Japanese and Italians whoop our ass at motorcycle building/racing.
The average american would rather watch Napcar drive in circles for hours or NFL protesters, err... players standing around occasionally interrupted by 15 seconds of actual game play.
Is it a symbol of what we as Americans don't want to be. True, it is a sport like any other but it is not an inherently American sport and for those of us with a nationalistic flair about us it is counterintuitive to want to see it here.
I just don't see how this assertion can be made. Millions upon millions of American children have been playing this sport year after year since the 70's. My niece is going on college on a soccer scholarship. They host skill building "clinics" all over the country that are attended by hundreds or thousands of kids. I used to go to them back in the late 70's and 80's, and its gotten much bigger since then. It is just as American as any other sport, but some Americans seem to have some sort of revulsion toward the game. I find it odd.
I just don't see how this assertion can be made. Millions upon millions of American children have been playing this sport year after year since the 70's. My niece is going on college on a soccer scholarship. They host skill building "clinics" all over the country that are attended by hundreds or thousands of kids. I used to go to them back in the late 70's and 80's, and its gotten much bigger since then. It is just as American as any other sport, but some Americans seem to have some sort of revulsion toward the game. I find it odd.
No doubt there’s a generational gap. The entire age group of kids you reference are going to grow up living soccer instead of football.
Yeah God forbid anyone get any enjoyment from entertainment. They should all be sitting around brooding while contemplating the issues going on with this country in any of their spare time. No time for hobbies or entertainment of any kind unless they are ones I happen to agree with.
That is what football used to be - an escape from politics, world events, work, etc.... But since the self righteous millionaires decided to use the fans' time to protest their own oppression and disrespect this country football is no longer the escape it once was.
skywalkrNCSU
10-12-17, 19:58
That is what football used to be - an escape from politics, world events, work, etc.... But since the self righteous millionaires decided to use the fans' time to protest their own oppression and disrespect this country football is no longer the escape it once was.
Still works as one for me, I just don't pay attention to any of the political stuff and at the end of the day they are still playing a game that I find enjoyable.
I really enjoyed the last world cup...I live about as far south as you can get & love the Rio Grande Valley, It's almost like being in the United States. My son dropped out of football & track to play & was the only white boy on the team, & he kinda got me up to speed on the whole schtick. Still, even down here it is not that big fan wise. Now when I worked in Mexico, they would bring in TV's & stop production lines for every game in the Cup & I sorta dig their intense love for the game.
Honestly, my only problem is the theatre with the diving to draw fouls...get rid of that nonsense & I bet more may get into it. Of course you need the USA in the Cup to help move it along?? Sucks.
PrivateCitizen
10-12-17, 21:24
You either love soccer or you hate it.
You either like that it is a low scoring game and the *value* of a goal is, generally, pivotal, some don't.
But anyone who says it is not a real sport needs to just stop.
The average player (sans keepers) in college+ for men's soccer runs an average of 4-7 miles per game (90+ minutes). No commercials, no TV time outs, very little 'technical review'. Only 2 substitutions per game.
And before you bust out some stat about how much you ran the mile or whatever in high-school … this is interval style … not some put on your running loafers and cruise … but a combination and distance, sprint and calisthenics. (Go look at a pro soccer player and tell me you look like that … or if you do that it is easy … cuz it ain't. Go run a "Beep test" and see how well you do.)
To cap it off … this all has to be done while maintaining both a strategic and tactical awareness along with precision play/coordination.
I don't care if you think it is a "socialist sport" or that it is "boring" … the simple fact is that it is probably the most physically demanding sport when all players are factored.
Moose-Knuckle
10-13-17, 04:43
As for American sports, I have seen the future! The NFL + Jai alai + motorcross + rollerberby = . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVUxK1mNups
I find it amusing that so many haters took time to post in this thread.
Personally, I see a lot of kids playing futball and a great deal of improvement in the youth programs as well as the players produced.
I've been surprised to see how much interest there seems to be in lacrosse. Probably the next fad in youth sports imo.
While I'm here, I'll take another opportunity to brag about my daughter's HS team. They are headed to the State Playoffs with an 18-0 record. There have been some great playoff games in the area this season and I'm looking forward to watching a few more before the season ends! If you happen to be near a futball pitch and hear a big ol' official winter Olympics cowbell it might be me celebrating another Gooooooooool!
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You either love soccer or you hate it.
You either like that it is a low scoring game and the *value* of a goal is, generally, pivotal, some don't.
But anyone who says it is not a real sport needs to just stop.
The average player (sans keepers) in college+ for men's soccer runs an average of 4-7 miles per game (90+ minutes). No commercials, no TV time outs, very little 'technical review'. Only 2 substitutions per game.
And before you bust out some stat about how much you ran the mile or whatever in high-school … this is interval style … not some put on your running loafers and cruise … but a combination and distance, sprint and calisthenics. (Go look at a pro soccer player and tell me you look like that … or if you do that it is easy … cuz it ain't. Go run a "Beep test" and see how well you do.)
To cap it off … this all has to be done while maintaining both a strategic and tactical awareness along with precision play/coordination.
I don't care if you think it is a "socialist sport" or that it is "boring" … the simple fact is that it is probably the most physically demanding sport when all players are factored.
Yeah a marathon is hard too.
No doubt there’s a generational gap. The entire age group of kids you reference are going to grow up living soccer instead of football.
Generation gap? So you are saying that all this hate is coming mostly from people that grew up prior to the 70s? I don't really know how big it was prior to my childhood years, but it was as big, or bigger, than baseball, basketball or football where and when I grew up. Far more of the kids I went to grade school with played soccer than those other three sports combined. This began to shift once we all reached high school in the 80's, but all the grade school kids were still playing soccer more than any other sport.
skywalkrNCSU
10-13-17, 14:10
Generation gap? So you are saying that all this hate is coming mostly from people that grew up prior to the 70s? I don't really know how big it was prior to my childhood years, but it was as big, or bigger, than baseball, basketball or football where and when I grew up. Far more of the kids I went to grade school with played soccer than those other three sports combined. This began to shift once we all reached high school in the 80's, but all the grade school kids were still playing soccer more than any other sport.
That’s probably because anyone can kick a ball around a field ;)
Averageman
10-13-17, 14:13
Generation gap? So you are saying that all this hate is coming mostly from people that grew up prior to the 70s? I don't really know how big it was prior to my childhood years, but it was as big, or bigger, than baseball, basketball or football where and when I grew up. Far more of the kids I went to grade school with played soccer than those other three sports combined. This began to shift once we all reached high school in the 80's, but all the grade school kids were still playing soccer more than any other sport.
An observation from a guy who is pushing in to his late fifties;
There may not be a direct correlation between Dad living with Mom and Football and Baseball being the predominate sport for pre-teens, teens and young adults, but it's a pretty suspicious timeline if you look at it.
I don't think it is much of a stretch actually. In the 1970's your Dad would have thrown the soccer ball away and asked if you were a Fag.
Generation gap? So you are saying that all this hate is coming mostly from people that grew up prior to the 70s? I don't really know how big it was prior to my childhood years, but it was as big, or bigger, than baseball, basketball or football where and when I grew up. Far more of the kids I went to grade school with played soccer than those other three sports combined. This began to shift once we all reached high school in the 80's, but all the grade school kids were still playing soccer more than any other sport.
No, I don’t know where the hate comes from nor do I particularly care. Soccer may have always been a presence in YOUR life, but of lot of these guys, me included, grew up in a time where football was a huge part of US culture and soccer was a mere curiosity that a lot of those old dinosaurs, especially the ones without kids in soccer, think is stupid. The culture is shifting, helped along by the antics of the current crop of NFL players, but it will take years, decades maybe, before the NFL dies completely.
You either love soccer or you hate it.
You either like that it is a low scoring game and the *value* of a goal is, generally, pivotal, some don't.
But anyone who says it is not a real sport needs to just stop.
The average player (sans keepers) in college+ for men's soccer runs an average of 4-7 miles per game (90+ minutes). No commercials, no TV time outs, very little 'technical review'. Only 2 substitutions per game.
And before you bust out some stat about how much you ran the mile or whatever in high-school … this is interval style … not some put on your running loafers and cruise … but a combination and distance, sprint and calisthenics. (Go look at a pro soccer player and tell me you look like that … or if you do that it is easy … cuz it ain't. Go run a "Beep test" and see how well you do.)
To cap it off … this all has to be done while maintaining both a strategic and tactical awareness along with precision play/coordination.
I don't care if you think it is a "socialist sport" or that it is "boring" … the simple fact is that it is probably the most physically demanding sport when all players are factored.
I played soccer all through high school and some college as well as Football and wrestling and this post is correct, it is very physically taxing. My shin splints still ache when I think of driving to Vegas on weekends for all day tournaments...
That’s probably because anyone can kick a ball around a field ;)
Hey he grew up in Kali, what do you expect!
:p
No, I don’t know where the hate comes from nor do I particularly care. Soccer may have always been a presence in YOUR life, but of lot of these guys, me included, gre1w up in a time where football was a huge part of US culture and soccer was a mere curiosity that a lot of those old dinosaurs, especially the ones without kids in soccer, think is stupid. The culture is shifting, helped along by the antics of the current crop of NFL players, but it will take years, decades maybe, before the NFL dies completely.
Very accurate statement.
FWIW when you said you were in college in 1971 I was like :eek: I thought you were much younger!
FWIW when you said you were in college in 1971 I was like :eek: I thought you were much younger!
I get that a lot. Actually, I’m much older.
RobertTheTexan
10-14-17, 18:43
I didn't play soccer growing up. We didn't even have it in my school. None of the schools around me played it. I was your average East Texan Redneck who thought soccer was a sissy-pants game that weak sissy pants guys played. Then while I was stationed in Germany, I played a few games and in spite of being in outstanding physical shape, was pretty much smoked at the end of the game. Why? Because we didn't have 50 time outs a game. It is physically demanding even without the contact. It wasn't until I went to Brazil for the first time that my attitude towards soccer changed. Down there I saw the passion for the sport. It wasn't about making buttloads of money, it was like part of life. Yes, it could be a rocket ship that could blast a dirt poor kid off the streets and land them on one of the famous teams, like Manchester United, Barcelona, or Real Madrid, but the pinnacle is not making a team with the most money. The pinnacle was to be chosen to play for Brazil. To be chosen to be part of "The Seleção" The "Select" National Pride. Big Time National Pride. For a country that's still considered a 3rd World Country, when it comes to that, we could use a few lessons. I saw kids playing in flip flops and sandals, in shoes twice as big as their feet, and A LOT with no shoes at all. I saw them playing on the street, on empty lots, and on fields that hadn't seen grass in 20 years. I don't enjoy American football nearly as much as when I played in school and with my friends. Call me old, but I really enjoyed it back when Roger Staubach was the captain of the Cowboy's ship. When Terry Bradshaw was his arch nemesis. When Franco Harris, Marcus Allen and the Doomsday Defense were at their prime. No it wasn't perfect then, but one thing that was uniquely different as compared to today? The hearts and minds of the players. I'm not trying to bash football. It is uniquely American, and I am a proud American and a proud Texan. But I used to be proud of our professional sports teams. Come against us one and all and we will destroy you! I don't care what sport! (Except soccer or cricket which I don't even begin to understand. But our American sports stopped being founded in ideals a long time ago. But I'll tell you what, I was just in Brazil 2 months ago, and I assure you that there are a people, who are bound together by a love of The Beautiful Game, and it shows. The pride shows, and the entire nation grieved when they were completely embarrassed by Germany.
Yep, the flopping on the ground drives me nuts. It did the first time I watched, and it still is pretty dang irritatingeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. Fortunately for us though, the ranks of our professional sports teams are filled with men of character and integrity, and the national pride that these countries who primarily play soccer? Their national pride is nothing compared to the national pride we see in our NFL players. Yep, that's dripping in sarcasm.
I guess I'm not at a place where I can sit down and watch the majority of a team play, root and high five for their amazing plays, and sing their praises when they score a touchdown or sack a QB when just 10 minutes or an hour earlier, or a day earlier, or a week earlier they were disrespecting and dishonoring dishonoring our nation. I'll take a guy flopping on the ground like he's having an epileptic seizure ANY DAY over these over-paid, no moral compass having, prima donna, arrogant self-centered individuals, who do NOT give a RATS ASS about our nation, or the flag flying over it OR anyone who has sacrificed for the liberties that participate in.
When I compare the two? One I can laugh at because I'm starting to get, that it is just part of the game, like it or not, they even get looked at, they flop around. Don't like it, but it's just a guy flopping around. But the other sport? The other offends me at the core of who I am as an American, way before it offends me as a prior soldier. IMO it is an offense to all the men and women who have gone before us. So now, is kneeling down just becoming "part of the game"? I don't think so. Yeah I love American football - the ideal of it now. Because the reality of the sport? You place preeminence over what we have been seeing on TV and reading and hearing? That does NOT deserve an iota of my time, nor does it deserve any my respect.
FromMyColdDeadHand
10-14-17, 20:48
So I’m thinking that the prime players for these teams are in their 20s. The kids that would be on the National team, as far as I can figure, should be the output of the switch from school based to team based- as in Travel teams and such. The kids that usually don’t play for their schools, but instead play for a ‘commercial’ team and play usually year around. The kind of teams where you when your are in third grade they decide who is going to play competitive and who plays club, and they start to aggregate kids with high level skills onto teams.
So this is different than when I was a kid when you played three sports, MAYBE did a camp in the summer. These kids have been playing soccer and usually only soccer for all their lives.
And this is the outcome we get; not even getting a team into the World Cup. This is the equivalent of the suburban school, with all the facilities, coaching and resources getting it head handed to it by an inner city school with none of that.
With 300 million people. Pretty much every kid playing soccer for some period of time and anyone who can run, jump or climb here- this is what we get?
So I’m thinking that the prime players for these teams are in their 20s. The kids that would be on the National team, as far as I can figure, should be the output of the switch from school based to team based- as in Travel teams and such. The kids that usually don’t play for their schools, but instead play for a ‘commercial’ team and play usually year around. The kind of teams where you when your are in third grade they decide who is going to play competitive and who plays club, and they start to aggregate kids with high level skills onto teams.
So this is different than when I was a kid when you played three sports, MAYBE did a camp in the summer. These kids have been playing soccer and usually only soccer for all their lives.
And this is the outcome we get; not even getting a team into the World Cup. This is the equivalent of the suburban school, with all the facilities, coaching and resources getting it head handed to it by an inner city school with none of that.
With 300 million people. Pretty much every kid playing soccer for some period of time and anyone who can run, jump or climb here- this is what we get?
It's not in our blood, that's why!
;)
In fairness, could every (or any for that matter) country that participates in professional soccer field an NFL-level football team? The size, strength, and speed of football is uniquely American. There is also a strategy to it, not just brute-uber-alles. You know, plays with running/blocking/passing patterns, stunting defenses, etc. The sport itself is uniquely American. It is a team battle using strength with every-play "violence" at the line of scrimmage and speedy prowess coupled with a carefully plannned strategy.
*none of the above is meant to support the NFL's recent antics, it is a commentary on American football tradition.
FromMyColdDeadHand
10-14-17, 22:30
In fairness, could every (or any for that matter) country that participates in professional soccer field an NFL-level football team? The size, strength, and speed of football is uniquely American. There is also a strategy to it, not just brute-uber-alles. You know, plays with running/blocking/passing patterns, stunting defenses, etc. The sport itself is uniquely American. It is a team battle using strength with every-play "violence" at the line of scrimmage and speedy prowess coupled with a carefully plannned strategy.
*none of the above is meant to support the NFL's recent antics, it is a commentary on American football tradition.
Rugby would come close. The specialization in body types and skills to extremes and the intricate and pre-planning is still more in the NFL, but no one will confuse a prop with a full back in Rugby. You have set plays to calls for things like line ins. I played forward, so I don't know what the backs were doing running around like chickens.
American football figure very well with the Greek Hoplite battle theory. Soccer is guerilla warfare, except for offsides...
MountainRaven
10-15-17, 02:13
It has come to my attention that Iceland, population 334,252, has a team going to the World Cup.
Wyoming - the least populace state in the US - has a population of 584,153, for comparison.
So a country with a population almost half that of the least populace state in the Union, whose closest thing to a military is a SWAT team, has made it to the World Cup.
And the US isn't.
How are things going with getting the World Cup-winning American women's national soccer/football team paid on par with their apparently worthless male counterparts?
Moose-Knuckle
10-15-17, 06:41
How are things going with getting the World Cup-winning American women's national soccer/football team paid on par with their apparently worthless male counterparts?
Do the women's soccer team sell more tickets than their "worthless male counterparts"?
The WNBA is a thing and they don't pull in revenue like their male counterparts in the NBA do. Same for Hollywood, actresses can bitch about income inequality all they want but they don't bring in the money at the box office like their male counterparts do.
I ponder as to why the adult film industry pay their male entertainers less than they do their females . . .
On the topic, soccer is not popular here. We have adult soccer stars that go play internationally for professional clubs just like we have foreign players come here to play professionally in the NHL, NBA, and the MLB.
Do the women's soccer team sell more tickets than their "worthless male counterparts"?
I’m always kind of amazed that people so readily overlook that point.
FromMyColdDeadHand
10-15-17, 10:16
It has come to my attention that Iceland, population 334,252, has a team going to the World Cup.
Wyoming - the least populace state in the US - has a population of 584,153, for comparison.
So a country with a population almost half that of the least populace state in the Union, whose closest thing to a military is a SWAT team, has made it to the World Cup.
And the US isn't.
Good point, and I like where you are going with this. What you are saying is that M4C should invade Iceland and then we can have our own team in the World Cup. Brilliant.
I've been to Wyoming. I think that 584,153 number is BS. I saw at most 50-60 people.
I've been to Wyoming. I think that 584,153 number is BS. I saw at most 50-60 people.
Pretty girl behind every tree though!
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The most “powerful” nation in the world can’t field a team of soccer players that can beat, or even tie, tiny Caribbean or Central American countries.
Wow. Just wow.
Good example how size doesn't matter. Russia is a big and "powerful" too, they can only get in by hosting the Cup. A country either has the game, or doesn't.
In fairness, could every (or any for that matter) country that participates in professional soccer field an NFL-level football team? The size, strength, and speed of football is uniquely American.
Of course they could, if they gave a shit about that game. Hockey is faster and is pretty physical too, countries that care about it field world class teams. Size and strength, the body types, this is all purpose selected and built. Make an NFL team with it size and strength run non-stop for 45 minutes without sucking on oxygen masks after each possession, you'll be collecting bodies in 20 minutes. You build the physique for the game that you want to play.
MountainRaven
10-15-17, 13:49
Do the women's soccer team sell more tickets than their "worthless male counterparts"?
How many Americans buy tickets to see games where America isn't playing?
Good point, and I like where you are going with this. What you are saying is that M4C should invade Iceland and then we can have our own team in the World Cup. Brilliant.
I've been to Wyoming. I think that 584,153 number is BS. I saw at most 50-60 people.
The last invasion of Iceland incurred only a couple of casualties.
Of course, the last time Iceland was invaded, it was invaded to prevent it from being taken over by Nazis. And Iceland wasn't fond of Nazis. And the casualties were pretty much incurred over a misunderstanding.
Given Iceland's strategic significance in linking the US to Europe, any such invasion would naturally have to make abundantly clear the invader's intent to maintain Iceland's membership in NATO.
RobertTheTexan
10-15-17, 13:52
Good point, and I like where you are going with this. [ b]What you are saying is that M4C should invade Iceland and then we can have our own team in the World Cup. [/b]Brilliant.
Man I needed this laugh like nobodies business. So thanks.. it just cracked me up.
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RobertTheTexan
10-15-17, 13:56
How many Americans buy tickets to see games where America isn't playing?
The last invasion of Iceland incurred only a couple of casualties.
Of course, the last time Iceland was invaded, it was invaded to prevent it from being taken over by Nazis. And Iceland wasn't fond of Nazis. And the casualties were pretty much incurred over a misunderstanding.
Given Iceland's strategic significance in linking the US to Europe, any such invasion would naturally have to make abundantly clear the invader's intent to maintain Iceland's membership in NATO.
What about the soccer team?
Why can’t we invade it and just rename it to North Wyoming or something?
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Soccer - the game for guys that can't throw? :D
Anyone saying that American Football isn't a physically demanding game is a fool, and simply can not know someone who played at a competitive level. Generally prospective college football players are two sport athletes before having to make a decision to go to school on a scholarship. Yeah, the O-Line men may make football players seem unfit because they have a gut. They can usually also deadlift a small car... As has been correctly stated, form follows function, and you train for the sport you play. A marathoner can run for hours, but 100k people aren't buying tickets to watch some Kenyan prove his speed against the world, even though that man would carry on after even the best world's soccer player had given up running.
Soccer is boring unless you have an emotional attachment to the team. For all of the complaints that people have about the lack of action in football, at least there is some ACTION when things are happening, even at midfield. Midfield action in soccer is about as entertaining as watching the grass grow beneath their cleats. I've never timed the "scoring chances" in a soccer game, but I would be willing to stake money on that time being less than 10% of the game clock in an average game.
to many other things has been proven over and over again American football is quite low on the list
is it demanding? sure but again not compared to other sports :)
Anyone saying that American Football isn't a physically demanding game is a fool, and simply can not know someone who played at a competitive level. Generally prospective college football players are two sport athletes before having to make a decision to go to school on a scholarship. Yeah, the O-Line men may make football players seem unfit because they have a gut. They can usually also deadlift a small car... As has been correctly stated, form follows function, and you train for the sport you play. A marathoner can run for hours, but 100k people aren't buying tickets to watch some Kenyan prove his speed against the world, even though that man would carry on after even the best world's soccer player had given up running.
Soccer is boring unless you have an emotional attachment to the team. For all of the complaints that people have about the lack of action in football, at least there is some ACTION when things are happening, even at midfield. Midfield action in soccer is about as entertaining as watching the grass grow beneath their cleats. I've never timed the "scoring chances" in a soccer game, but I would be willing to stake money on that time being less than 10% of the game clock in an average game.
Nothing has been proven... I don’t see multiple peer reviewed studies posted, I see a bunch of soccer fans saying that running intervals and kicking a ball is hard. Yeah, so is the triathlon. That shit is boring too.
Moose-Knuckle
10-16-17, 05:34
How many Americans buy tickets to see games where America isn't playing?
I have no idea. I had a buddy growing up who would watch Spanish channels just so he could catch televised games. Dated a girl who always caught team Germany when they were stateside, she had a full ride soccer scholarship in college. To some people it's a big deal, to many others it's not.
I enjoy watching Football and American Football both. Happy to see there are a number of other fans on here as well.
Frankly out team has been rubbish for years. I was not at all shocked to see them not qualify.
Some people find it boring. That is fine. I like the tactics and planning involved in the sport. It is constantly changing, always on the move. You have to adapt quickly and be ready for anything.
Want to talk about boring? Watch a baseball game. I honestly think I would rather open my own veins than be forced to do that ever again.
Finally I leave you this..
Our team gives each other a reach around while the All Blacks show them how pre game should be done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fA6AG2I1xI
Finally I leave you this..
Our team gives each other a reach around while the All Blacks show them how pre game should be done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fA6AG2I1xI
That is awesome! I'd love to see my daughter's HS team perform it prior to a game! Lol
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That is awesome! I'd love to see my daughter's HS team perform it prior to a game! Lol
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https://youtu.be/M0VgmSVO9aw?t=30s
Moose-Knuckle
10-17-17, 05:26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI6TRTBZUMM
That one never fails to get me right in the feels.
I remember when it was originally posted here.
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