View Full Version : Heads up clone dorks: Brownells now selling complete Colt M4 lowers ($244 shipped)
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/lower-receivers/ar-15-m4-complete-lower-receiver-5-56mm-ar-15-m4-complete-lower-receiver-5-56mm-sku100-025-281-109740-206687.aspx
Currently on backorder, but I just bought one for $244 shipped with code 'MCF' (10% off & free shipping)
There's also 4% cash-back if you use ActiveJunky (referral link (https://www.activejunky.com/invite/112140)). If you're into the clone game, this is probably a better/cheaper way than buying a complete 6920 and parting out the upper. Having seen the latest QC issues with the Trooper, I'd rather buy this and stick a BCM or KAC upper on it.
Felt like passing along the deal.
voiceofreason
10-18-17, 17:24
Actual Colt. Nice.
The Colt AR-15 M4 Complete Lower Receiver is made entirely from 7075-T6 aluminum and features a black hardcoat-anodized finish for added durability.
Marked for 5.56 NATO
•single-stage semi-automatic trigger group
Equipped with M4-style buttstock and pistol grip
The Colt AR-15 M4 Complete Lower Receiver is built using the same parts and the same attention to detail as the company's popular line of LE6920 AR-15 rifles.
Wow, great deal for a complete 6920 lower.
Bought a Trooper not long ago (no QC issues on mine thankfully) but I'd definitely snag one if these if I hadn't just spent $700.00 and may still.
These are the good old days re: good stuff at lower than typical cost
Diamondback
10-18-17, 17:35
Thanks for the headsup on the coupon. While I'm not Rollmark Picky, if it lasts the couple weeks til my next round of invoices to clients go Payment Due I have a couple things it'll come in handy on... :)
Eurodriver
10-18-17, 17:45
Times are good now.
This too shall pass.
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/lower-receivers/ar-15-m4-complete-lower-receiver-5-56mm-ar-15-m4-complete-lower-receiver-5-56mm-sku100-025-281-109740-206687.aspx
Currently on backorder, but I just bought one for $244 shipped with code 'MCF' (10% off & free shipping)
There's also 4% cash-back if you use ActiveJunky (referral link (https://www.activejunky.com/invite/112140)). If you're into the clone game, this is probably a better/cheaper way than buying a complete 6920 and parting out the upper. Having seen the latest QC issues with the Trooper, I'd rather buy this and stick a BCM or KAC upper on it.
Felt like passing along the deal.
I back ordered two, thanks for the heads up.
..... Having seen the latest QC issues with the Trooper, I'd rather buy this and stick a BCM or KAC upper on it.
I missed something, what are the "QC issues with the Trooper"?
I missed something, what are the "QC issues with the Trooper"?
They're crying about the "L" in Colt not being deeply stamped on a few and the one guy who got the Trooper with the broken rail bolt. The other 2,500 that I bet were ordered, including the 2 I got, are flawless.
EDIT: The DD MK18 Upper is on sale for $750 so with coupon, $675 shipped. That's cheaper than every one USED I've seen on TOS.
They're crying about the "L" in Colt not being deeply stamped on a few and the one guy who got the Trooper with the broken rail bolt. The other 2,500 that I bet were ordered, including the 2 I got, are flawless.
EDIT: The DD MK18 Upper is on sale for $750 so with coupon, $675 shipped. That's cheaper than every one USED I've seen on TOS.
Seems like a better complaint for arfcom if that is what it really is. Colt scuffs, imperfect stampings, and minor other marks have been going on for a very long time. The only "issue" I had heard of was where the snapped bolt, and a rail being a degree off from perfect. Neither of those are great, but are still isolated cases.
Thanks OP, just ordered one. Damn these are great "Colt Times"!
I am still lovin my Trooper, well built and shoots great.
That didn't last long. All gone now, I missed out
contax_shooter
10-18-17, 20:24
That didn't last long. All gone now, I missed out
OP says they were out of stock to begin with. It’s worth a try to place an order anyways. I know i did.
My back order appears to have gone thru. I'll update in a few days if it is cancelled. Damn, I didn't need this but boy do I want it. ;-{)
My back order appears to have gone thru. I'll update in a few days if it is cancelled. Damn, I didn't need this but boy do I want it. ;-{)
My guess is that many were grabbed to scab, and resell on various EE boards.
ColtSeavers
10-18-17, 23:13
They're crying about the "L" in Colt not being deeply stamped on a few and the one guy who got the Trooper with the broken rail bolt. The other 2,500 that I bet were ordered, including the 2 I got, are flawless.
EDIT: The DD MK18 Upper is on sale for $750 so with coupon, $675 shipped. That's cheaper than every one USED I've seen on TOS.
Just blew $675 on this, even though I literally have 99% of my planned pistol build's parts already...
Just blew $675 on this, even though I literally have 99% of my planned pistol build's parts already...
That is certainly cheaper than I've seen in awhile.
OP- Thanks for posting the original link.
jason.mayberry68
10-19-17, 01:35
Thanks for sharing.
Just blew $675 on this, even though I literally have 99% of my planned pistol build's parts already...
Seriously. You could take the rail off and sell it for $400 since it's brand new, then do the same with the barrel and gas block for probably $250. That leaves you with a $25 DD upper, so you could make $50-$75 on the part out easy, likely more.
contax_shooter
10-19-17, 07:09
Is the promo code posted in the OP only valid for single use?
Figures, i just ordered one at my local shop and paid much more then this.
Figures, i just ordered one at my local shop and paid much more then this.
Same. Rather support my LGS though. However if they come back in I’ll pick another one or two up
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Code not working for me. Probably for the best
Beat Trash
10-19-17, 19:03
Is the promo code posted in the OP only valid for single use?
I got the same promo code in the email. It was only for yesterday. Ended at midnight.
Code M7L should get you $20 off $200 and free shipping. Not quite the same deal, but close enough.
Are these roll marked as "AR-15"?
I have mine back ordered!
Great deal OP! THANKS!
Are these roll marked as "AR-15"?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171020/de9a3acc77dad583ee503a977f2d6ddd.jpg
I can't tell from this photo. I ordered one. I also ordered three of these stripped Colt uppers from Arms Unlimited. I don't care for the camo but thirty bucks for a Colt upper is a no brainer. I have two Charles Daly lowers I bought on clearance from Grant years ago for $25 each! I should shop for bargains and see how inexpensive I could build a quality gun!
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171020/c5f3c85699271946e0693cec30505645.jpg
https://www.armsunlimited.com/Colt-AR15-M4-Stripped-Upper-Receiver-Camo-Pattern-p/sp63526.htm
Now to get on the EE to find a Colt barrel assembly!
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SeriousStudent
10-19-17, 22:34
Hmmm - how hard is it to strip off the hydrodip?
I would seriously consider grabbing five or six if I could take that color off.
wetidlerjr
10-19-17, 22:59
Hmmm - how hard is it to strip off the hydrodip?
I would seriously consider grabbing five or six if I could take that color off.
You Tube has videos on how to remove it.
You can zoom in on the picture at Brownell's. It APPEARS to be marked M4 CARBINE CAL 5.56MM with an LE prefix serial.
Hmmm - how hard is it to strip off the hydrodip?
I would seriously consider grabbing five or six if I could take that color off.
I just ordered a few to play around with. I'll try alcohol first, if that doesn't work I'll spray it with paint stripper. I don't need them to look perfect, or really even all that close to perfect.
Thanks guys -- bought one of those uppers as well. This is beginning to be an interesting project....
Were these uppers in stock yesterday? I searched for a Colt upper on there yesterday and it either wasn't there or I completely missed it. Anyway, just ordered one for a KAC lower with Colt LPK and A2 stock that I'll be building out. I dig the camo but it has to go. I'm thinking cerakote both lower and upper. Thanks for posting the upper!
Hmmm - how hard is it to strip off the hydrodip?
I would seriously consider grabbing five or six if I could take that color off.
I've always wanted to do a paint job on a carbine like Pat Rodgers did to all of his. This might get me to do it. I bought the paint a few years ago. Looks like denatured alcohol will remove it. https://youtu.be/bYZ8Bo7Wevw
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I bought some of the orange gel stuff and took really thick paint off a Troy rail. Let me find the name of it. If you leave it on for like 40-60 mins, the paint literally peels off.
I bought some of the orange gel stuff and took really thick paint off a Troy rail. Let me find the name of it. If you leave it on for like 40-60 mins, the paint literally peels off.
Naval Jelly? That might take the base finish off too.
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Colt Uppers are now out of stock. I'm always late to the party. I would have picked up at least 3x of these.
I bought some of the orange gel stuff and took really thick paint off a Troy rail. Let me find the name of it. If you leave it on for like 40-60 mins, the paint literally peels off.
I believe it's called Citristrip or Citrus Strip. It comes in an orange container and they sell it at Home Depot in the paint section next to acetone and all of that other paint stripper stuff. Not 100% sure but I think it's non toxic too.
Code M7L should get you $20 off $200 and free shipping. Not quite the same deal, but close enough.
Thanks, placed a back order today!
cobravenom39
10-20-17, 16:53
BAckordered 2 lowers from Brownells for $216 or whatever with all the discounts, then ordered 4 of the uppers from AU. Gonna strip them, too.
This is a great time for Colt lovers!
I believe it's called Citristrip or Citrus Strip. It comes in an orange container and they sell it at Home Depot in the paint section next to acetone and all of that other paint stripper stuff. Not 100% sure but I think it's non toxic too.
That's it. Got mine at Walmart and worked great.
How does the finish look once stripped?
Eta: upper shipped already. Given that I'm local, may have it in hand tomorrow.
Yup, my uppers are on the way as well. For the price it was too good to pass up. I too am curious how the finish underneath the hydro dip will look. I plan on using de-natured alcohol to remove the hydro dip finish. Of the other chemicals available, from my experience citristrip is the least offensive. It really shines on wood. No pun intended.
I only picked up one, which I will probably regret. Anymore would have been spare and we all know what happens to spare parts!
I believe it's called Citristrip or Citrus Strip. It comes in an orange container and they sell it at Home Depot in the paint section next to acetone and all of that other paint stripper stuff. Not 100% sure but I think it's non toxic too.
Biodegradable and smells better, but don't think it is non toxic....eye and skin irritant for sure.
SeriousStudent
10-20-17, 19:51
I snagged a Colt stripped upper from AU as well. For that price, I'll just use Aervoe on it and be happy.
the_1iviper
10-20-17, 20:01
glad i picked 2 of these up after i got the email , probably should have grabbed a few more
they did ship really fast. i got my shipping email about an hour after i ordered
I'm trying to figure out what bbl assembly to use. I want to go with a standard FSP. I was going to to spin and upper together but there are a ton of the 6920 uppers on GB for shirt money. $299 for a barreled upper. $400 with a BCG & CH. I don't need another CH or BCG but for another $101 it's a no brainer. Where are you guys buying your barrel assemblies? I looked at BCM but didn't see any.
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I'm trying to figure out what bbl assembly to use. I want to go with a standard FSP. I was going to to spin and upper together but there are a ton of the 6920 uppers on GB for shirt money. $299 for a barreled upper. $400 with a BCG & CH. I don't need another CH or BCG but for another $101 it's a no brainer.
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I have the same problem... good problem to have...
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Those Colt OEM uppers on Gunbroker are a good deal. I'd go that route before BCM, Colt barrels are better, even if it is a 16" carbine.
A quick FYI...
I called Brownell’s yesterday and was told that they are not sure if the backordered lowers will have the same rollmark. My experience with them has been pretty good and I’m sure they know the value some place on the “correct” markings. Hopefully if there is a difference they’ll alert buyers before shipping.
That being said, even without the rollmark, the price is awesome...
I have the same problem... good problem to have...
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Very True. I saw a few 14.7" assemblies on Brownells that would work for a pinned A2. Just looked again it's a great 1/12 bbl. Not for me.
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cobravenom39
10-21-17, 12:16
A quick FYI...
I called Brownell’s yesterday and was told that they are not sure if the backordered lowers will have the same rollmark. My experience with them has been pretty good and I’m sure they know the value some place on the “correct” markings. Hopefully if there is a difference they’ll alert buyers before shipping.
That being said, even without the rollmark, the price is awesome...
I understand your concerns, especially with dealing with other companies out there. I can assure you, Brownells would not substitute for a different rollmark.
I understand your concerns, especially with dealing with other companies out there. I can assure you, Brownells would not substitute for a different rollmark.
Do we have a definite answer on the roll mark? I saw a goofy looking one for sale, from another distributor! saying it was a piston gun.
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Upper delivered. Looks good but will get stripped. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171021/3d8b2ee93c64dda545e9a0837b8085f9.jpg
Upper delivered. Looks good but will get stripped. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171021/3d8b2ee93c64dda545e9a0837b8085f9.jpg
I like that look actually. Let us know how you strip it.
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You can zoom in on the picture at Brownell's. It APPEARS to be marked M4 CARBINE CAL 5.56MM with an LE prefix serial.
If it says "M4" I'm okay in NJ. If t says "AR-15" it's a no go.
If it says "M4" I'm okay in NJ. If t says "AR-15" it's a no go.
What if it says piston carbine. This is the goofy roll mark Inwas talking about earlier.
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https://www.armsunlimited.com/Colt-M4-Carbine-Lower-Receiver-Assembly-p/sp633784.htm
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Well that would suck. It appears someone is cleaning out the bins at Colt, I hope we get the right stuff.
Those Colt OEM uppers on Gunbroker are a good deal. I'd go that route before BCM, Colt barrels are better, even if it is a 16" carbine.
I like that look actually. Let us know how you strip it.
Sent from my iPad using TapatalkIf I could have a matching lower it would stay because I like the pattern and color. If you notice the chip on the F/A area, it seems like the coating has a decent thickness. I'm very curious to see how the citrus stripper works.
On a side note, trying to decide on SPRish build or a 20" configuration of some kind and what barrel to use?
You derps are overthinking this -- it's not going to say "Piston Lower", nor is it going to say "AR-15". These are legit 6920 lowers.
Yeah $300 for the barreled upper or $400 with BCG and CH is an awesome price. I have not owned a Colt since I sold mine in 1994. I ordered it and was pissed of at the neutered Gun. No bayonet lug, the front take down screw with big hole pin and no cage around my mag release listed me off. The BCG and anti sear lower were just minor irritations. I actually bought a Bushmaster XM-15 because it was “closer” to what I wanted!
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What if it says piston carbine. This is the goofy roll mark Inwas talking about earlier.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171021/7f56d48d52686c025136ffa5b5fe8859.jpg
https://www.armsunlimited.com/Colt-M4-Carbine-Lower-Receiver-Assembly-p/sp633784.htm
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That would be fine lol. NJ has a list of banned weapons and "Colt AR-15 and CAR-15" are named on it so anything that is serialized or roll makes as such is a no go. It's stupid but it's what we have to deal with. I want to built a true SPR clone with ether a PRI or HCS upper and this would be a good starting point if it says anything other than "AR-15" on the receiver.
That would be fine lol. NJ has a list of banned weapons and "Colt AR-15 and CAR-15" are named on it so anything that is serialized or roll makes as such is a no go. It's stupid but it's what we have to deal with. I want to built a true SPR clone with ether a PRI or HCS upper and this would be a good starting point if it says anything other than "AR-15" on the receiver.
Sweet. It’s a decent price. And I never look roll marks.
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Upper delivered. Looks good but will get stripped. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171021/3d8b2ee93c64dda545e9a0837b8085f9.jpg
I was on Gun Broker and found 16” Midlength BCM Barrel Assembly’s. He said he has multiples. ScottyRyan was the seller. I bought one to use with this upper. I didn’t realize they would hand pick colors. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171022/10e8cc568ce5b03c5fae07f94ac3b476.jpg
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Is this the Mod 1 Comp on the bbl?
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Yeah $300 for the barreled upper or $400 with BCG and CH is an awesome price. I have not owned a Colt since I sold mine in 1994. I ordered it and was pissed of at the neutered Gun. No bayonet lug, the front take down screw with big hole pin and no cage around my mag release listed me off. The BCG and anti sear lower were just minor irritations. I actually bought a Bushmaster XM-15 because it was “closer” to what I wanted!
What $300 barreled upper are you talking about? Did I miss a link somewhere?
This is a great price for a Colt upper.
http://www.gunbroker.com/item/711103462
I wish I had seen this. http://www.gunbroker.com/item/710993256
Well he had a half dozen 6920 Colt uppers with BCG and CH for $400 last night. Looks like they’re all sold!
I’m new to GB but I think the listings for the other uppers simply expired. It will probably be resisted.
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I’m new to GB but I think the listings for the other uppers simply expired. It will probably be resisted.
Resistance is futile. I thought we all knew that.
These Are Not The Droid You're Looking For.
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This is about 10-15 minutes of sitting in a cup of denatured alcohol and a credit card scrapping it off for a couple of minutes. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171023/87ba2ac25dadb3b1912f1647953fcacf.jpg
I plan on spraying mine with citristrip, then hosing or pressure washing it off.
That easy? That's what I get for spending the afternoon shooting and forgetting to go to the store. I had the alcohol on hand so figured I would give a try. Going to be pain to get in the nooks of the rail.
I plan on spraying mine with citristrip, then hosing or pressure washing it off.
Yup, that's the game. I've also heard getting some demineralized water or something to rinse it in once you have it stripped works well. I did just a water rinse in my utility sink with a nylon bristle brush with great success.
cobravenom39
10-23-17, 09:21
I'm just happy to see that the 4 uppers I have coming have the "C" on the port door side. So much excite.
Simple Green should work; I've used it on painted aluminum brake calipers that had hard anodizing underneath the paint. I've also used aircraft paint stripper before, but that stuff is caustic as hell.
Just got mine an hour ago, they also have M4 stamped over the gas tube port .
Mine had the same M4 marking. Ordered BCM parts to go in it as AU only had the Colt forward assist and no dust cover parts.
Dang it I've too far away! [emoji12] no foodies in the mail today. I'll long forward to seeing photos and sharing mine.
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Can an A2 forward assist fit not an A1? I tried several last week I Jan A1 upper and none fit. It may be out of spec. I ordered a plug for it!
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Anyone have any better luck stripping these receivers? I used denatured alcohol on this one and the results are not stellar.
I spent a solid hour and a half, alternating soaking the upper for 15min at a time and rubbing with a shop rag and scrubbing with a nylon brush.
I'm curious how citrus strip will come out.
Anyone have any better luck stripping these receivers? I used denatured alcohol on this one and the results are not stellar.
I spent a solid hour and a half, alternating soaking the upper for 15min at a time and rubbing with a shop rag and scrubbing with a nylon brush.
I'm curious how citrus strip will come out.
Mine all look about the same. I am wondering what luck people have had with citristrip.
Anyone have any better luck stripping these receivers? I used denatured alcohol on this one and the results are not stellar.
I spent a solid hour and a half, alternating soaking the upper for 15min at a time and rubbing with a shop rag and scrubbing with a nylon brush.
I'm curious how citrus strip will come out.
Get the citristrip from WalMart.
I picked up the citristrip after my initial messing with denatured alcohol. Mine looks a bit better than yours but still is kinda cloudy in spots.
Anyone have any better luck stripping these receivers? I used denatured alcohol on this one and the results are not stellar.
I spent a solid hour and a half, alternating soaking the upper for 15min at a time and rubbing with a shop rag and scrubbing with a nylon brush.
I'm curious how citrus strip will come out.
First, know ahead of time that they are not going to turn black and beautiful for you. I will say that if you sprayed that with CLP, you might find it MUCH closer to what you were hoping for.
My plan, if and when they ever arrive, is to spray them with citristrip. However, since I wanted these for beater/ worn/ paint builds, it won't matter to me how they turn out, so I'm lucky in that regard. I have a bunch of beautiful uppers on hand if I need pretty.
I picked up the citristrip after my initial messing with denatured alcohol. Mine looks a bit better than yours but still is kinda cloudy in spots.
Spray them with CLP and see how they look. The 1913 rails are typically the hardest part to get clean. You can always spray them a second time, with CS, and then use a wooden pain stirring stick to clean the rails. The paint stirring sticks are pretty close in size, and should work well.
Absolutely comical the lengths to which you guys are going to strip a $30 Colt upper just because of the color. Not to mention, the time. To each their own I suppose.
Better idea, build an upper out of it -- and shoot the shit out've it. If you're like me, you bought it because it's a legit Colt part, w/o the Colt premium. You didn't buy it because you wanted a safe queen.
I probably have an hour invested so far. Not really a big deal plus I like the challenge. I bought for same reason you did, quality part for cheap. Life is a voyage of discovery and I learnt something from this.
Has anyone received their lowers yet? Plan on putting in a backorder but wanted to make sure they are indeed the correct ones and not the Mexico lowers or similar.
It just never ends, what in the world would I do with a another complete lower. Jeez Louiezz.
PB
Damn. I wish I'd seen the upper link before they were gone.
That's a Mod 0 Comp. That barrel assembly must be a take-off because BCM told me that they don't sell those assemblies unless they are built as a complete upper. I'd love to be wrong because I would buy one in a heartbeat.
I was on Gun Broker and found 16” Midlength BCM Barrel Assembly’s. He said he has multiples. ScottyRyan was the seller. I bought one to use with this upper. I didn’t realize they would hand pick colors. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171022/10e8cc568ce5b03c5fae07f94ac3b476.jpg
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Is this the Mod 1 Comp on the bbl?
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That's a Mod 0 Comp. That barrel assembly must be a take-off because BCM told me that they don't sell those assemblies unless they are built as a complete upper. I'd love to be wrong because I would buy one in a heartbeat.
There is a business unto itself that involves buying complete firearms, then taking them apart and selling the individual components. I think most of the guys are making a couple hundred bucks per weapon that way when they part out the pieces. AFAIK, Colt won't let dealers do it (though some do anyway), but individuals do it all the time.
There is a business unto itself that involves buying complete firearms, then taking them apart and selling the individual components.
Most COLT dealers pull this crap.
Most COLT dealers pull this crap.
Buy a LE6920 for $700.... then sell the parts...
Barrel- $300
Upper- $200
Gas Tube- $25
Bolt- $100
Carrier- $150
Firing pin- 25
FPRP- $5
Cam- $20
Stripped lower- $300
Colt LPK- $150
Colt RE- $40
Colt MAS- $25
Colt H Buffer- $30
Colt stock- $50
Sit on the pieces until they are all sold for a total of $1,420, for a total profit of $720 on a $700 item.
Or buy the same weapon and sell off the major components the lazy way:
16" Colt M4 upper- $450
Colt BCG- $200
Colt M4 complete lower- $400
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Total- $1050
Sure there is less profit that way, but the components sell quicker, and you are still making $350 in profit.
PLUS- You can sell the box to the box collectors for another $25!!!
There's a bunch of OEM-2 uppers complete with bcg and charging handle for $425 on Gunbroker right now.
I'm thinking about picking up a few. I could replace my heavy stainless BCM with one, any 6920 will outshoot it.
There's a bunch of OEM-2 uppers complete with bcg and charging handle for $425 on Gunbroker right now.
I'm thinking about picking up a few. I could replace my heavy stainless BCM with one, any 6920 will outshoot it.
You might as well, especially if they are with the BCG.
Damn. I wish I'd seen the upper link before they were gone.
Check your PM’s.
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That's a Mod 0 Comp. That barrel assembly must be a take-off because BCM told me that they don't sell those assemblies unless they are built as a complete upper. I'd love to be wrong because I would buy one in a heartbeat.
I bought it from scottyryan. He’s a well know member here. His GB add said he had several and that he special orders them from BCM. If you want the Comp PM me. I’ll probably be adding a War Comp so I can use my suppressor with the upper.
You can buy the BCM comp here: https://lohmanarms.com/product/bcm-gunfighter-compensator-mod-0-5-56/?gclid=CjwKCAjwssvPBRBBEiwASFoVdzNCU2hYpLIqFkxrwkjgzcz8AXhkosErBKpU_XLonXr2OkeSOmsAURoCr1wQAvD_BwE
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Close enough for government work [emoji41]https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171027/ab320e881bcab0e65d347a2cbb672554.jpg
I know that Ben's 100% mosquito repellent takes the hydrodip right off my compound bows.. :D bet it would clean those uppers right up.
Damn. I can't believe I missed this post and the uppers.
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I’m going to leave mine painted.
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cobravenom39
10-27-17, 12:12
I’m going to leave mine painted.
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yeah, I bet some hydrodip lowers pop up in a few...
yeah, I bet some hydrodip lowers pop up in a few...
Good point! Someone call AU and get permission to set up a group buy!
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yeah, I bet some hydrodip lowers pop up in a few...I considered this but ultimately have zero patience to wait it out. AU is definitely a great site to keep an eye on for Colt stuff. The tiger stripe 9mm upper/lower combo is good example.
I have the same problem... good problem to have...
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My 16” mid length BCM bbl assembly showed up. With three cool hats. Thanks scottyryan!
I have a set of MOE hand-guards on the way too. I just need my lower and upper!
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I considered this but ultimately have zero patience to wait it out. AU is definitely a great site to keep an eye on for Colt stuff. The tiger stripe 9mm upper/lower combo is good example.
I'm still waiting on the parts I ordered on 10/20. Anyone else having an unusually long time in getting their order, assuming you weren't ordering FFL parts?
I'm still waiting on the parts I ordered on 10/20. Anyone else having an unusually long time in getting their order, assuming you weren't ordering FFL parts?
Yeah I haven’t seen mine either. I did get a shipping notification. I ordered on 10-19-17. It said shipping would take three to ten days.
Looks like mine has not shipped. It’s been pending since the 20th.
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I just called they said it left the warehouse on Friday. I’m cautiously optimistic.
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I'm still waiting on the parts I ordered on 10/20. Anyone else having an unusually long time in getting their order, assuming you weren't ordering FFL parts?Mine came 2 days after I ordered. Obviously quick because I'm about 2 miles away but last time I ordered they shipped next day. Both were via USPS.
I called Brownells about the M4 lowers and was told mid November expected arrival date.
Good news.
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I called Brownells about the M4 lowers and was told mid November expected arrival date.
Was that for backordered ones...? That certainly seems like a long wait for items ordered that were in stock. Brownells is typically pretty good about that sort of thing.
Mine came 2 days after I ordered. Obviously quick because I'm about 2 miles away but last time I ordered they shipped next day. Both were via USPS.
I know this isn't exactly on track with the original topic, but how did your Colt uppers turn out? One of mine looks kind of like paste or glue was slopped through it.
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Yes one of my three looked pretty bad on the inside. That was the first one I stripped using denatured alcohol. I posted photos of it. The second I stripped using citristrip (thanks for the tip Stickman) it turned out much nicer.
I also followed the stripping with a wipe down with CLP.
I know this isn't exactly on track with the original topic, but how did your Colt uppers turn out? One of mine looks kind of like paste or glue was slopped through it.
Mine was very clean on the inside apart from a little "overspray" from the coating.
I also followed the stripping with a wipe down with CLP.
After my previous photo with the lower I posted where it was still a bit cloudy, I remembered the mention in this thread of using CLP. Wiped it down and it looks like jl1288's.
Does anybody have one of the cheap camp uppers they don't need or know if there will be more available? I'm needing two.
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Long time reader of this forum, finally joined, and first post. But...thank you! I've been studying up on AR platforms and wanted to get something as close as possible to a Colt M4 and so today took the plunge on this lower deal from Brownells, got it $20 off and free shipping, plus the 4% cash back from Active Junkie, then hopped on. Gunbroker and got the upper mentioned in this thread. Now I just have decide on a handguard and I'm all set with a genuine Colt AR! Many thanks.
Was that for backordered ones...? That certainly seems like a long wait for items ordered that were in stock. Brownells is typically pretty good about that sort of thing.
Yes that is for the back ordered lowers.
I know this isn't exactly on track with the original topic, but how did your Colt uppers turn out? One of mine looks kind of like paste or glue was slopped through it.
http://78.media.tumblr.com/6931d8b65c30e13365af04137084e43e/tumblr_oyny4z31RX1rrcg2fo1_1280.jpg
Stick did you strip yours?
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Long time reader of this forum, finally joined, and first post. But...thank you! I've been studying up on AR platforms and wanted to get something as close as possible to a Colt M4 and so today took the plunge on this lower deal from Brownells, got it $20 off and free shipping, plus the 4% cash back from Active Junkie, then hopped on. Gunbroker and got the upper mentioned in this thread. Now I just have decide on a handguard and I'm all set with a genuine Colt AR! Many thanks.
Welcome Aboard.
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Howdy Gents,
Just got a pkg from Brownells with some colt goodies. Small parts to assemble my uppers. I put a take off 6920 barrel and now have an all colt upper waiting on those back ordered brownells lowers to come in.
Stick did you strip yours?
Negative ghostrider, not yet. I've spent more time looking at the patterns and wondering how they match up with existing ones I have on hand. I don't need it to "match", I just want to see if tone, hue and generic colors are close enough. I'm guessing they will be.
Yes that is for the back ordered lowers.
Thank you sir.
Yes one of my three looked pretty bad on the inside. That was the first one I stripped using denatured alcohol. I posted photos of it. The second I stripped using citristrip (thanks for the tip Stickman) it turned out much nicer.
Always happy to see tips help people.
I think I'll take the one with stuff inside and play stripper with it.
Howdy Gents,
Just got a pkg from Brownells with some colt goodies. Small parts to assemble my uppers. I put a take off 6920 barrel and now have an all colt upper waiting on those back ordered brownells lowers to come in.
Looks good!
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Negative ghostrider, not yet. I've spent more time looking at the patterns and wondering how they match up with existing ones I have on hand. I don't need it to "match", I just want to see if tone, hue and generic colors are close enough. I'm guessing they will be.
I just checked my email. I ordered a cheap 1 point bungee single point sling to try with my CZ Scorpion. It's on back order holding up the rest of my order. I canceled the sling. Bring on the uppers! [emoji1]
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cobravenom39
11-02-17, 13:20
Meh. I thought I was going to strip mine, but I think I'm going to paint over it on my MK18 pistol clone.
Meh. I thought I was going to strip mine, but I think I'm going to paint over it on my MK18 pistol clone.
I wouldn’t expect paint to hold up well on them, not even a little well. I would strongly encourage you to strip it first, then paint it.
contax_shooter
11-03-17, 09:43
Brownells charged my credit card today for the lower.
Brownells charged my credit card today for the lower.
Mine also, that was faster then I expected.
ginzomatic
11-03-17, 10:28
Mine also, that was faster then I expected.
One more here... website shows it was shipped today and the charge is pending on my CC.. waiting on email with tracking info
+3 I've received a shipped notice as well.
Showing in stock too.
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Just got shipping notice as well. Enjoy boys!!
cobravenom39
11-03-17, 14:07
Just got mine, too. I ordered late in the day after they were sold out. Can't believe I'm getting a New Colt lower for $230 shipped after all discounts. Unbelievable.
Got my shipping notice today also, should be here Tuesday.
I just got billed for mine at $269.99, and I could have sworn they were the $244 listed price. Anyone have any ideas as to what happened? The price difference isn't the end of the world, but once Brownells slaps the extra $10 fee on it for being a firearm plus the $259.99, it is now at $269.99, instead of $244.
They are also back in stock at $300.
I just got billed for mine at $269.99, and I could have sworn they were the $244 listed price. Anyone have any ideas as to what happened? The price difference isn't the end of the world, but once Brownells slaps the extra $10 fee on it for being a firearm plus the $259.99, it is now at $269.99, instead of $244.
They are also back in stock at $300.
You had to use code 'MCF' (10% off & free shipping). Some people got additional discounts for using "ActiveJunky".
You had to use code 'MCF' (10% off & free shipping). Some people got additional discounts for using "ActiveJunky".
I did use the code, I guess it didn't pass along with the backorder. Not a big deal.
Just got notice that my backordered lower is on its way. It was on backorder for just a couple days!
I got shipping notice today. Mine came out to $238.99 each altogether.
I did use the code, I guess it didn't pass along with the backorder. Not a big deal.
They should have honored the codes. Mine came to $244, but I did not use Active Junky.
Code H7L for $20 off $200 still works, I would call and get that rectified.
cobravenom39
11-03-17, 20:34
They should have honored the codes. Mine came to $244, but I did not use Active Junky.
The email they sent didn't reference the right price. Check the actual invoice in your order history. Mine had a different total.
You got the discount.
The email they sent didn't reference the right price. Check the actual invoice in your order history. Mine had a different total.
You got the discount.
Thanks, I'll check that. I appreciate the answers from everyone.
I called Colt yesterday and was told these are legit full spec lowers, the first time they have ever offered them for sale this way.
I called Colt yesterday and was told these are legit full spec lowers, the first time they have ever offered them for sale this way.
I think this is a very smart move on Colt's part. With the glut on the market people are still very interested in owning Colt products, whether it be a complete lower, or a URG.
cobravenom39
11-04-17, 13:29
So, I used 2 minute paint remover on the upper, and with some elbow grease, it all came off! Replaced the daniel defense upper from my $619 MK18 upper from Brownells, and added a Colt BCG. Only thing left to do is add the Colt lower that Brownells is delivering tomorrow, which I'll switch to the pistol brace.
I bought 4 of the uppers, wish I bought more!
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Mrgunsngear
11-05-17, 08:28
FWIW, they complete LE6920 lowers are in stock for $239 shipped here (https://goo.gl/fv7SA7) at Brownells with code H7L...
cobravenom39
11-05-17, 08:54
Extra $10 for you and me and 4% back, too!
https://www.activejunky.com/invite/850759
Don't waste your time. I've tried 5 times on Brownell's piece of shit website to order one and it ain't working.
cobravenom39
11-05-17, 12:18
Don't waste your time. I've tried 5 times on Brownell's piece of shit website to order one and it ain't working.
I think there were some issues earlier. I just went back and it was up and running.
I think there were some issues earlier. I just went back and it was up and running.
Just did it again and no dice.
In stock and on sale for $249.
That is a great deal.
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Finally was able to get it to go through. $239 shipped.
Finally was able to get it to go through. $239 shipped.
Excellent!
Just placed my order and all is good.
Got one at 239 as well. Just waiting on the stripped mk18 uppers to go down to 680 again.
cobravenom39
11-06-17, 08:19
Picked up 2 more. Need them for pistol builds.
Anyone know how they come packaged? I'm kind of interested.
Well, I just now got in on the Colt deal at $239 SHIPPED, that's a deal, thanks for the heads up it's good for another build.
Anyone else get one for $244 shipped but then your CC got hit for $269?
Just picked mine up at my FFL.
CR serial number with M4 Carbine rollmark. Very nice shape. For Colt, not as many “handling marks” I’ve come to expect based on my other Colt ARs - not that I care.
Anyway, it came nicely packaged in a white box with the product sticker on the end that reads:
Colt
MODEL - SP633734
CR serial #
Complete Lower Receiver, Semi Auto
Spares
I have to guess the CR serial number has to do with these being “spare” Complete Receivers - CR. Again, not that I care the serial number is CR vs LE.
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Times are good now.
This too shall pass.
truth
Just picked mine up at my FFL.
CR serial number with M4 Carbine rollmark. Very nice shape. For Colt, not as many “handling marks” I’ve come to expect based on my other Colt ARs - not that I care.
Anyway, it came nicely packaged in a white box with the product sticker on the end that reads:
Colt
MODEL - SP633734
CR serial #
Complete Lower Receiver, Semi Auto
Spares
I have to guess the CR serial number has to do with these being “spare” Complete Receivers - CR. Again, not that I care the serial number is CR vs LE.
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I'm somewhat disappointed that it's coming with a "CR" prefix'ed rollmark (doesn't their budget, out-of-spec, "Expanse" lineup use these?). At least this gives me one more reason paint it and not give a shit.
And no, they charged my card the correct $244 (though, I'm slightly annoyed it went for $239. I'm frugal.)
I went to pick mine up thinking it would have a LE prefix, but no, it had a CR prefix. I refused it and Brownells is charging me $20 for the return label, they claim they never insinuated it would be a LE prefix, and they do NOT have any LE prefix lowers. Shame on me for not calling them first! I have no need for a CR (Civilian Rifle) lower. Hell, I have a nice KAC and a pretty Mega that I can build. The CR would have just set in the safe taking up space.
Caveat Emptor - BUYER BEWARE!
Quote:
"The Colt AR-15 M4 Complete Lower Receiver is built using the same parts and the same attention to detail as the company's popular line of LE6920 AR-15 rifles."
Some of you guys....seriously? The difference in serial number is enough to bum you out? The lower is the same despite serial number. Same dimensions, same material, etc. who really cares what the SN is?
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Anyone else get one for $244 shipped but then your CC got hit for $269?
Call them, they will credit the difference.
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cobravenom39
11-06-17, 16:55
Just picked mine up at my FFL.
CR serial number with M4 Carbine rollmark. Very nice shape. For Colt, not as many “handling marks” I’ve come to expect based on my other Colt ARs - not that I care.
Anyway, it came nicely packaged in a white box with the product sticker on the end that reads:
Colt
MODEL - SP633734
CR serial #
Complete Lower Receiver, Semi Auto
Spares
I have to guess the CR serial number has to do with these being “spare” Complete Receivers - CR. Again, not that I care the serial number is CR vs LE.
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Crap. I thought they said they were going to be "LE" prefix. Do you have any pics? Does it have the 4 position buttstock?
Mrgunsngear
11-06-17, 17:55
Well, I just now got in on the Colt deal at $239 SHIPPED, that's a deal, thanks for the heads up it's good for another build.
You're quite welcome....
https://youtu.be/VEmXmAY2fOY
Some of you guys....seriously? The difference in serial number is enough to bum you out? The lower is the same despite serial number. Same dimensions, same material, etc. who really cares what the SN is?
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C’mon dude. Did you not read the thread title? This is a “clone dork” thread after all!
If they are the same parts, they are the same parts. You can't blame Colt at all as they can't control what crap uppers will end up on these and passed on as Colt LE carbines. I can't believe they are selling them at all, frankly.
If you want a Colt for "collector" then buy a Colt carbine, not a lower. Then it's a Colt and not a parts gun.
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C’mon dude. Did you not read the thread title? This is a “clone dork” thread after all!
It could be the best thread title I've read in a long time, and it is reflected in the posts of CR vs LE as people complain about resale value.
If they are the same parts, they are the same parts. You can't blame Colt at all as they can't control what crap uppers will end up on these and passed on as Colt LE carbines. I can't believe they are selling them at all, frankly.
If you want a Colt for "collector" then buy a Colt carbine, not a lower. Then it's a Colt and not a parts gun.
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Don’t listen to him all you clone dorks. This is a safe place to express your inner dork! If you want to complain about serial number prefixes, this is the right place to get your dork on.
AZRenegade
11-06-17, 19:01
Not sure if this has been mentioned before but based on an internet search, the "CR" designation relates to Colt's accurized rifle. Apparently, the lower had an "enhanced trigger group". Not sure if that is what this lower comes with but that's what was in the original issue.
Look here: https://www.bing.com/search?q=Colt's+Accurized+Rifle+lower&FORM=EDGNCT
Anyone else get one for $244 shipped but then your CC got hit for $269?
I did. There was shipping and a fee and a FFL fee.
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I did. There was shipping and a fee and a FFL fee.
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If you have your original web confirmation email stating 244, call brownells and they will credit you. That’s what happened to me. In my case, I was told the promo code was not reapplied when the item came back in stock.
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If you have your original web confirmation email stating 244, call brownells and they will credit you. That’s what happened to me. In my case, I was told the promo code was not reapplied when the item came back in stock.
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Thank you.
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Like I said in my first post, I don’t care about the CR serial number and to each their own. That said, for the cloners, how does the CR number make this less a clone than the LE number? If you’re cloning a true M4, not even the LE s/n is legit. What am I missing? I’m just asking.
Looking at the CR series info below, it does not appear the rollmark was “M4 Carbine” but the s/n began with CR.
Anyway, this receiver seems on par or better quality than my other three LE s/n Colts. For example, the castle nut staking is much, much better than my CCU or two other 6920 receivers.
I’m planning on slapping a BCM 14.5 pinned SOCOM on it which, combined with the CR s/n will really make it a bastard.
Not sure if this has been mentioned before but based on an internet search, the "CR" designation relates to Colt's accurized rifle. Apparently, the lower had an "enhanced trigger group". Not sure if that is what this lower comes with but that's what was in the original issue.
Look here: https://www.bing.com/search?q=Colt's+Accurized+Rifle+lower&FORM=EDGNCT
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Like I said in my first post, I don’t care about the CR serial number and to each their own. That said, for the cloners, how does the CR number make this less a clone than the LE number? If you’re cloning a true M4, not even the LE s/n is legit. What am I missing? I’m just asking.
Looking at the CR series info below, it does not appear the rollmark was “M4 Carbine” but the s/n began with CR.
Anyway, this receiver seems on par or better quality than my other three LE s/n Colts. For example, the castle nut staking is much, much better than my CCU or two other 6920 receivers.
I’m planning on slapping a BCM 14.5 pinned SOCOM on it which, combined with the CR s/n will really make it a bastard.
You are on point. LE is a Law Enforcement carbine designation, not a military one. People are already changing what they think CR stands for, before you know it, CR will equal Colt Reject and the rumor will stick around for years.
You are on point. LE is a Law Enforcement carbine designation, not a military one. People are already changing what they think CR stands for, before you know it, CR will equal Colt Reject and the rumor will stick around for years.
Same here... CR prefix. Was hoping for standard LE prefix but kind of digging that I now have an original Colt Reject serial number!
AZRenegade
11-07-17, 08:18
Didn't I read that the Colt Trooper came out with the CR prefix? Certainly nothing wrong with the Trooper. Those folks didn't seem to mind the CR prefix.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?198818-Colt-6920-Trooper/page64&highlight=trooper
Could all of these "CR" lowers be the leftovers of the failed expanse line?
EDIT: With the proper trigger group/hammer.
Could all of these "CR" lowers be the leftovers of the failed expanse line?
I hope not. Those had strange hammers didn't they?
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Diamondback
11-07-17, 10:17
Per Gun.deals, it's now $229.99 plus $10 FFL fee after code H7L.
https://gun.deals/product/colt-ar-15-m4-complete-lower-receiver-556mm-22999-shipped-after-code-h7l
Tempting, but I'd have a concern about that stock making it "completed as a rifle receiver," since my understanding is a lower first built as pistol can be reconfigured between pistol and rifle at will as long as the stock and short barrel are never on it at the same time, but once first completed as a rifle it becomes a rifle forevermore.
cobravenom39
11-07-17, 10:31
I've long defended Brownells on this website as having fantastic customer service, until my last order.
I bought the Colt M4 lowers and used the 10% discount. No mention of it not working on the lowers and was sent a confirmation for the price minus the discount.
I get a notice on November 3rd that they're shipping, but they now have the price without the discount. I saved around $50 using the discount, so it was a big deal to me.
I figure, no worries, they always do me right, I'll use the chat function and talk to Kristen. She says that she talked to her supervisor after I outline this and discount codes don't work on ammunition. Well, it's not ammunition, it's a firearm, and the code let me use it. I subtly correct her, and she says it still doesn't work on firearms.
I advise that I'd like the package intercepted, especially since I heard that the description o the lowers changed (LE vs CR prefix on the serial number). I ask her to intercept the package, which I know they can do since I work for a mail-order company. She says that I can print a return label and pay for the shipping from the website.
This entire order has been a huge disappointment, and now they're not honoring the discount? I'd keep the CR prefix lowers if they would honor the price they confirmed.
Diamondback
11-07-17, 11:00
No, complete lowers are transferred as "Other" on the 4473, so you should be good to go if you wanna convert it to a pistol.
I'm also in Sea-Tac area so if you wanna check mine out in person, shoot me a PM.
Appreciate the thought, amigo, but right now I'm not in a position to take you up on it--with aging rels to take care of, I haven't even had a chance to take the AR I built *last year* out and test fire it! :( Will certainly PM if that changes.
I've long defended Brownells on this website as having fantastic customer service, until my last order.
I bought the Colt M4 lowers and used the 10% discount. No mention of it not working on the lowers and was sent a confirmation for the price minus the discount.
I get a notice on November 3rd that they're shipping, but they now have the price without the discount. I saved around $50 using the discount, so it was a big deal to me.
I figure, no worries, they always do me right, I'll use the chat function and talk to Kristen. She says that she talked to her supervisor after I outline this and discount codes don't work on ammunition. Well, it's not ammunition, it's a firearm, and the code let me use it. I subtly correct her, and she says it still doesn't work on firearms.
I advise that I'd like the package intercepted, especially since I heard that the description o the lowers changed (LE vs CR prefix on the serial number). I ask her to intercept the package, which I know they can do since I work for a mail-order company. She says that I can print a return label and pay for the shipping from the website.
This entire order has been a huge disappointment, and now they're not honoring the discount? I'd keep the CR prefix lowers if they would honor the price they confirmed.
Ouch. Maybe fire off an email to Customer Service, letting them know just how substandard this purchasing experience has been and ask them if $50 now is worth losing a profitable long-term customer relationship over, AND all the negative publicity when all your buddies hear about how they welshed on an advertised deal.
cobravenom39
11-07-17, 11:03
I'm a C&R dealer and an Edge member, too. I've spend conservatively $20k with them over the last 5 years. I'm enraged right now.
Diamondback
11-07-17, 11:06
I'm a C&R dealer and an Edge member, too. I've spend conservatively $20k with them over the last 5 years. I'm enraged right now.
With good reason... at that level of giving 'em your money, they should be going out of their way to take *extra* special care of you. It's like the first rule of Vegas casinos, "Don't Piss Off The Whales."
Diamondback
11-07-17, 11:21
Cobravenom39, belay my prior. CALL them, and ask to speak to a Customer Service Manager--not just a drone, a MANAGER--and point out to them what you've pointed out to us. Don't take a "No" from somebody who doesn't have the power to tell you "Yes". Be polite but firm... you know, that Dale Carnegie bullshit.
There's a hierarchy of message media, some forms of communication carry greater weight than others by the extra amount of effort investment to use them. Per an old classmate who's now a State Senator, highest to lowest:
--Handwritten letter.
--Typed letter.
--Phone call.
--"Direct" (your own words, your email to theirs) email.
--Bulk, form-letter (those NRA-and-other-orgs "add your name and send your legislators our prewritten message") email.
I've been a "dealer" customer with Brownells since 2000. They have always treated me right, but they do have policies and procedures that protect their business and make things fair for everyone.
You can try to leverage them with an ultimatum that you'll take your business elsewhere, but don't be too surprised if their hands are tied by policy that is (most likely) even declared in the fine print of the coupon code. Good luck.
My complete lower shipped yesterday, and should arrive at the FFL on Wednesday (if it decides to start moving in the right direction).
It won't be paired with a Colt upper, so the serial number doesn't matter at all to me.
1_click_off
11-07-17, 14:21
I've long defended Brownells on this website as having fantastic customer service, until my last order.
I bought the Colt M4 lowers and used the 10% discount. No mention of it not working on the lowers and was sent a confirmation for the price minus the discount.
I get a notice on November 3rd that they're shipping, but they now have the price without the discount. I saved around $50 using the discount, so it was a big deal to me.
I figure, no worries, they always do me right, I'll use the chat function and talk to Kristen. She says that she talked to her supervisor after I outline this and discount codes don't work on ammunition. Well, it's not ammunition, it's a firearm, and the code let me use it. I subtly correct her, and she says it still doesn't work on firearms.
I advise that I'd like the package intercepted, especially since I heard that the description o the lowers changed (LE vs CR prefix on the serial number). I ask her to intercept the package, which I know they can do since I work for a mail-order company. She says that I can print a return label and pay for the shipping from the website.
This entire order has been a huge disappointment, and now they're not honoring the discount? I'd keep the CR prefix lowers if they would honor the price they confirmed.
20k worth of excellent customer service and a single $500 transaction is enough to kill that relationship? Sounds like you have had a good working relationship with them and would be petty to trash it over this. That is a 2.5% failure rate. I was quoted $239 with the free shipping and $20 off code. It was $249 once they added the firearm processing fee back in. Not sure why they didn’t honor the code you entered or simply supply you with another. Sounds like there is still plenty of bread in that shit sandwich. I know it is the principle, but I cut folks some slack when they have treated me well 97.5% of the time.
cobravenom39
11-07-17, 14:36
Just an update. Jill H from Brownells customer service just emailed me to tell me that she refunded my credit card.
I am now happy again.
20k worth of excellent customer service and a single $500 transaction is enough to kill that relationship? Sounds like you have had a good working relationship with them and would be petty to trash it over this. That is a 2.5% failure rate. I was quoted $239 with the free shipping and $20 off code. It was $249 once they added the firearm processing fee back in. Not sure why they didn’t honor the code you entered or simply supply you with another. Sounds like there is still plenty of bread in that shit sandwich. I know it is the principle, but I cut folks some slack when they have treated me well 97.5% of the time.
1_click_off
11-07-17, 14:55
Just an update. Jill H from Brownells customer service just emailed me to tell me that she refunded my credit card.
I am now happy again.
Your stats just went back to 100%
Pics yet from those who have received theirs?
JaketheSnake
11-07-17, 17:39
Pics yet from those who have received theirs?
A guy on arfcom just posted some pics of his lower.
Looks legit.
Could all of these "CR" lowers be the leftovers of the failed expanse line?
EDIT: With the proper trigger group/hammer.
It certainly isn't like Colt took the receivers, hogged them out to remove the markings, then refilled that area to cut them out again. Where would you even get an idea like that?
I just checked. Mine was delivered to my LGS today. I signed up for FedEx notificatiins but didn’t get one. I’ll grab it on the way to work tomorrow.
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A guy on arfcom just posted some pics of his lower.
Looks legit.
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Why link to a place that will ban you if you mention this site? Poor form, poor form indeed.
I just checked. Mine was delivered to my LGS today. I signed up for FedEx notificatiins but didn’t get one. I’ll grab it on the way to work tomorrow.
I think mine came in today as well, but I think I have 4 or 5 things coming into my FFL so I'll wait a bit and pick them up at the same time.
JaketheSnake
11-07-17, 18:22
Why link to a place that will ban you if you mention this site? Poor form, poor form indeed.
really? when did that start happening?
really? when did that start happening?
A long time ago. The board owners have a personal grudge and will not allow it. Go over there and post M4C links a couple times and watch how long it takes.
While you are at it, ask why none of the professionals in the industry post there anymore. Or ask them how much the industry partners pay a year. Or where the money went that was donated to fight the NY AWB.
I just picked my two up. The roll mark is indeed light/nonexistent on part of the L and O on the Colt logo on both (identical location). The serial number is a "cr". One lower is perfect the other has a messed up forging. The staking is machine made, perfect, no dents, dings or scratches, the lpk looks correct also, and my Vltor upper fits perfectly.
I've never owned a Colt, so I don't know if the forging flaw is normal, it's only cosmetic. It also came with an H buffer, I'm happy. The white spots are lint from the micro fiber cloth. I have an iPhone 7+, it takes great close up pictures.
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JaketheSnake
11-07-17, 18:35
So if these lowers are CR prefix'd does that indicate the expanse line? I'm not up on all the colt prefix serial number stuff.
I was hoping to get a deal on LE marked 6920 lowers. But now its looking like they will be CR marked.. if that even makes a difference?
My uppers arrived. I like them. I’m not going to strip them. The paint a little rough on them and the one in the center still has some type of rubber in the take down pin holes from the painting process.
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I don't think so, Colt probably wanted to differentiate them for some reason. I was kinda bummed about the roll mark, but can care less about the serial number. I could be wrong though, I just realized there is no forge mark on the lower.
So if these lowers are CR prefix'd does that indicate the expanse line? I'm not up on all the colt prefix serial number stuff.
I was hoping to get a deal on LE marked 6920 lowers. But now its looking g like they will be CR marked.. if that even makes a difference?
JaketheSnake
11-07-17, 18:43
I don't think so, Colt probably wanted to differentiate them for some reason. I was kinda bummed about the roll mark, but can care less about the serial number. I could be wrong though, I just realized there is no forge mark on the lower.
What was your stock jurassic? 4 pos or 6 pos?
out of curiosity
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4 position, dry film coated buffer tube on the inside, cage code numbers on stock.
Not a fan of the notched hammer. Gives me flashbacks of unshrouded, half moon bcg's....
Diamondback
11-07-17, 18:50
A long time ago. The board owners have a personal grudge and will not allow it. Go over there and post M4C links a couple times and watch how long it takes.
While you are at it, ask why none of the professionals in the industry post there anymore. Or ask them how much the industry partners pay a year. Or where the money went that was donated to fight the NY AWB.
All I needed to know about BARFcom I learned when a particularly vile and despised relative tried to talk the place up. (This being the same asswipe who grabbed my grandfather's old Air Force service 1911 and hocked it for cheap rotgut before the body even finished cooling... real class acts they get over there, huh?)
1_click_off
11-07-17, 18:56
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LE on top and on left.
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LE on left.
I just picked my two up. The roll mark is indeed light/nonexistent on part of the L and O on the Colt logo on both (identical location). The serial number is a "cr". One lower is perfect the other has a messed up forging. The staking is machine made, perfect, no dents, dings or scratches, the lpk looks correct also, and my Vltor upper fits perfectly.
I've never owned a Colt, so I don't know if the forging flaw is normal, it's only cosmetic. It also came with an H buffer, I'm happy. The white spots are lint from the micro fiber cloth. I have an iPhone 7+, it takes great close up pictures.
https://i.imgur.com/7SPLqYF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7SZ61Hf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/iL3ZTVd.jpg
Looks great to me. Thanks for the photos. I don’t care about the serial number. I think it’s cool it says M4.
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They look the same, are they?
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LE on top and on left.
1_click_off
11-07-17, 19:05
Very small difference. Look by the rear takedown pin.
Also missing the forge mark near the trigger.
Would like to know how they are getting the QR in it at about 11 o’clock from the safety selector. (Shown in Jerrasic’s pic)
Missing the keyhole forge markings is a bummer IMHO. Oh well.
It certainly isn't like Colt took the receivers, hogged them out to remove the markings, then refilled that area to cut them out again. Where would you even get an idea like that?
In looking up Expanse lowers, they were marked with the same "M4 Carbine " markings as these.
This lower will constitute my fourth genuine Colt “firearm.” The others include one LE6920 complete M4 carbine, one Colt CCU carbine, one LE6920 receiver from a complete carbine that I SBR’d and now has a BCM 11.5” upper on it, and one “Colts Law Enforcement Carbine” with the “Restricted” markings. All purchased NIB by me over the years.
Only one has the forging marking near the trigger guard and that is the SBR LE6920 lower.
Aside from the CR serial number and QR thingy they stamp on the receivers now, this lower looks the same as my others (the CCU has the QR thingy too). In fact, as I said before, this new one is actually of better cosmetic quality than the others. Oh, the L in Colt is lightly stamped. The top of the pony logo on the “Restricted” LE6920 is also light and almost non-existent. It’s my most shot (well over 5000 rounds) and proven most reliable carbine, even making it through a few Pannone and McNamara carbine courses. Sure glad the light pony roll mark didn’t affect its reliability...
I for one am extremely pleased with the new lower. To each their own I guess based on this thread and some the “concerns” stated. End of the day it’s a $250 COLT lower. Great deal.
Missing the keyhole forge markings is a bummer IMHO. Oh well.
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People are already changing what they think CR stands for, before you know it, CR will equal Colt Reject and the rumor will stick around for years.
N,no...did't you hear? It really stands for "Combat Ready" and these are worth 4x what the LE ones are worth! :p :cool:
And no, they charged my card the correct $244 (though, I'm slightly annoyed it went for $239. I'm frugal.)
Well, quickly skip the rest of this post then... :D
New code for 10% off + free shipping brings it down to $235 shipped:
10% off + free shipping: Use code "MCL" (https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/lower-receivers/ar-15-m4-complete-lower-receiver-5-56mm-sku100025281-109740-206687.aspx)
Code ends tonight, and I just verified that it works.
Just got back from my FFL to pick up my receiver. (I am the OP of this thread and the one Stickman & Co are ripping on for harping on about serial prefixes.... haha)
A few observations:
1. CR prefix serial
2. No keyhole forge mark by trigger.
3. The "L" on "Colt" engraving isn't complete.
4. Came with 4-position receiver extension
5. Castle nut is staked well.
6. The box (from Colt) reads: "Model SP633784 Complete Lower Receiver, Semi Auto Spares"
Interestingly enough, my FFL had another complete Colt lower receiver (also from Brownells) that a different customer ordered and it had the "LE" serial prefix, but no keyhole forge marking. The fact that they, explicitly, put the word "Spares" on the box leads me to believe this is one of those instances where Colt slapped a bunch of random shit together they had at the factory to get it out the door to appease their investors and generate much-needed revenue. This has happened before (See A4 complete rifles which had the incorrectly-marked "1:9" barrels when they were actually 1:7 twist; MrGunsNGear did a review on these), so I don't think it's anything to make a big stink about (it shouldn't stop you from buying one of these).
If you want a collectible Pony you can stash in the back of the safe that'll retain maximum resale value, this probably isn't it, but my original plan still stands: gonna slap a BCM/KAC upper on it, paint it, and shoot the shit out've it.
Hope this helps.
cobravenom39
11-08-17, 09:25
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Voodoochild
11-08-17, 10:08
Let's keep the AJ links to a minimum please.
Mine still hasn't shipped, ordered the day the thread was created. I'm going to have to call them on lunch.
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AZRenegade
11-08-17, 11:39
Picked mine up yesterday. Matched it up with an OEM2 upper. Tight fit between upper and lower and identical to my 6920 lower. My 6920 has no trigger forge mark as was shown in an earlier comparison between the two and neither does this one. In fact, the only difference that I can see is the CR vs. LE prefix on the serial number. I'm 100% satisfied with this lower.:D
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Got mine on Monday. It doesn’t just feel quite right. The stock is extremely hard to move, Selector lever is stiff and gritty. However the trigger is decent. It doesn’t look as refined as my 6920 or 6940 (w/ LE engraving).
Just got off the phone with Brownells and mine is shipping today. Apparently my FFL needed updated with them.
Looking at my other Colts, some lowers do and some don't have the forge marking near the trigger guard. My Colts range from 2006 production to 2017 production.
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Got mine on Monday. It doesn’t just feel quite right. The stock is extremely hard to move, Selector lever is stiff and gritty. However the trigger is decent. It doesn’t look as refined as my 6920 or 6940 (w/ LE engraving).
Is the stock's reluctance to move caused by the receiver extension, or the butt stock?
Some oil will likely smooth out the selector movement....or removing whatever foreign matter may be where it doesn't belong.
Mine is now at my FFL, so I'll have it this afternoon or tomorrow.
cobravenom39
11-08-17, 12:59
Just got off the phone with Brownells and mine is shipping today. Apparently my FFL needed updated with them.
Looking at my other Colts, some lowers do and some don't have the forge marking near the trigger guard. My Colts range from 2006 production to 2017 production.
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I also have about 10 Colt lowers ranging from mid 2000s until now. Some of the keyhole and some don't. My M4A1 Socom lowers don't have any forging marks.
I only called-out the keyhole forge markings as a point of interest because literally, for years, Grant (G&R Tactical; one of the respected vendors on this site) made it a point to highlight it as an important differentiating indicator of Colt lowers (and thus, an added point for secondary market resale value).
But let's be real, your gun is still gonna shoot exactly the same w/o the forge mark. It's mainly for the Colt geeks/collectors/snobs. :)
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Someone probably already said it. CR is probably for complete lower receiver.
I'm Happy.
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Djstorm100
11-08-17, 16:57
I ended up cancelling mine. If can't get a roll mark to 100% then that tells me something.
I ended up cancelling mine. If can't get a roll mark to $100 then that tells me something.
$100 or 100%?
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Djstorm100
11-08-17, 17:16
100% sorry
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I ended up cancelling mine. If can't get a roll mark to 100% then that tells me something.
Ummmmm, what does it tell you?
Colt is notorious for not giving a shit about cosmetics @ the factory (tools not toys). It clearly doesn't affect functionality....
Ummmmm, what does it tell you?
Colt is notorious for not giving a shit about cosmetics @ the factory (tools not toys). It clearly doesn't affect functionality....
Yup. Like this beauty that Jewel posted in the Trooper thread:
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Wow, mine did not come with a black mustache. That's awesome.
Wow, mine did not come with a black mustache. That's awesome.
Yeah. Ultra rare rollmark. Clone dorks are going to go crazy over that.
I ended up cancelling mine. If can't get a roll mark to 100% then that tells me something.
What does it tell you?
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Djstorm100
11-08-17, 18:56
Ummmmm, what does it tell you?
Colt is notorious for not giving a shit about cosmetics @ the factory (tools not toys). It clearly doesn't affect functionality....
You are 100% right. I've never honestly own anything colt, just nick pick of mine. I should of bought the 6920 back when they were a lot cheaper.
What does it tell you?
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Laziness to maintain tooling or correct a error
Diamondback
11-08-17, 19:04
You are 100% right. I've never honestly own anything colt, just nick pick of mine. I should of bought the 6920 back when they were a lot cheaper.
How much cheaper? Seems like every week I get CDNN ads with $799 6920s and "rare" 6520s with old "LE Restricted" markings, along with $600 Expanses... not to mention Ruger and S&W AR's in the $500-700 range.
Might be tempting for "Buy It and Rack It"-oriented folks, but I'm more of a "Getting There Is Half The Fun, pick good parts and DIY" sort. Maybe it's a bit Snowflakey, but when I pick it up I *know* exactly whose workmanship I'm betting my ass on... :)
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