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amd5007
10-20-17, 14:09
Has anyone bought one or heard anything about them? I have a UMP 45 kit and I think this receiver is probably the best option going, short of coughing up $3,000 for a USC. However being so new to the market, I have my reservations.
Renegade
10-20-17, 14:13
Has anyone bought one or heard anything about them? I have a UMP 45 kit and I think this receiver is probably the best option going, short of coughing up $3,000 for a USC. However being so new to the market, I have my reservations.

Heard of them, another TB product, but too early to tell if they work or not. We should know in a few weeks as they have been released.
amd5007
10-20-17, 14:27
Heard of them, another TB product, but too early to tell if they work or not. We should know in a few weeks as they have been released.

Everyone during my research has been commenting on the Todd Bailey name. What's the scoop? I've never heard about him.
call_me_ski
10-20-17, 14:33
Same gentleman pops up with a new company every two years. Always the same shit and always the same drama. Buy with caution.
Dionysusigma
10-20-17, 23:26
Hesse, Vulcan Armament, etc. = Todd Bailey.

His M.O. is to make guns that look cool at highest profit by using poor materials and no quality control while pricing them slightly below competitors. I'd place more confidence in a 10/22 shoehorned into an airsoft gun chassis.
bondmid003
10-20-17, 23:59
I've been curious about these as well. The prices I've seen seem to be all over the map. I've seen as low as 750 and as high as 2k from Atlantic. Didn't Vulcan make roller lock clones, because he's making them under the Omega name as well.
Renegade
10-21-17, 00:03
Hesse, Vulcan Armament, etc. = Todd Bailey.


I do not think that was him. He was Special Weapons, Bobcat, Coherie, Black Market Parts, Omega...
SteyrAUG
10-21-17, 01:44
I do not think that was him. He was Special Weapons, Bobcat, Coherie, Black Market Parts, Omega...

https://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/notes/notes-hk-rev-sw5/notes-hk-rev-sw5.html

He was also:

Tactical Weapons Training Academy
Cohaire Arms
Cohaire Ordnance Factory
Omega Arms
Special Weapons
Acme Parts
BCH Manufacturing
Top Notch Accessorie

I wouldn't touch anything TB is involved in.
SteyrAUG
10-21-17, 01:46
Has anyone bought one or heard anything about them? I have a UMP 45 kit and I think this receiver is probably the best option going, short of coughing up $3,000 for a USC. However being so new to the market, I have my reservations.


I went the parts kit plus USC to SBR route and couldn't be happier.
eodinert
10-24-17, 02:59
I bought one, but I don't have it yet.

I bought it from Atlantic as a stripped receiver, and Atlantic has a solid reputation for standing behind their products. I would not have bought it direct.

I bought a UMP parts kit to build it out, which will only go up in value as the availability of these receivers will only make demand for the kits rise... so rather than being a $2500 gamble, it's an $800 gamble (the price I paid for the stripped receiver from Atlantic).... and I WILL be having the receiver re-marked.

I've noticed a surge in sales of fused USC/UMP receiver stub guns... The introduction of these new receivers, unless they completely suck, should drive prices down quite a bit. I'll have around $2500 in mine by the time I'm done, which is a lot nicer than the $3500 to $4000 entry fee for a fuzed gun. So whether you want a new receiver, or a fuzed receiver, prices just got lower (although I expect the price of parts kits to climb a bit).

Hopefully they don't suck.
amd5007
10-24-17, 11:28
Well, curiosity got the best of me. Atlantic stands behind what they sell and they have a pretty good reputation of solving issues, so with that said I ordered an Omega receiver from Atlantic. From the short reviews I've seen on HKpro, no one seems to have had functionality issues. However long term durability seems to be an unknown at the moment.

The receiver should be arriving tomorrow, when I get it I'll post some photos and try to give everyone as much info as possible.
Spooky130
10-27-17, 19:26
Can't believe HK won't try to stop this...

Then they need to kick their own asses since this could have been them making this money...
Renegade
10-27-17, 19:27
The receiver should be arriving tomorrow, when I get it I'll post some photos and try to give everyone as much info as possible.

I would like to know how "parts ready" it is.

Presumably it is cut for double stack magazines, but are the front hooks sized for the standard lower?
amd5007
10-28-17, 09:41
I'll post a range review in the coming week, I've been busy so I haven't had much time this week or weekend. But here's the details:

1. The receiver is a USC style receiver, so things like the front hooks need to be opened up on the UMP lower and the the left ledge on the bolt needs to be raised slightly to fit in the receiver (honestly it's no big deal, I did it with a bench grinder and some sandpaper and the action is pretty smooth).

2. However, unlike the USC it is set up to accept UMP mags from the get go, so no trimming involved.

3. The front sight sucked, so I swapped on the UMP sight.

4. Out of 200 rounds so far, reliability has been perfect. Ejection is at 2 o'clock about 4 feet away.

5. As for parts ready, I would say with knowing what you're doing you can have a UMP parts kit fully installed and compliant in under an hour. I took my time measuring and working slowly and gradually, however if I were to built another one tomorrow, it would go much faster.

6. The receiver seems to be pretty good so far, no cracks or deformation, everything looks perfect at the moment.

7. I'm loving it.