View Full Version : Refuse Fascism: November 4, 2017!!!
First of all, I find it odd that fascism, America and Trump are being used in the same sentence. Obviously, fascism has a different meaning today than it did in Italy during the 1940's but that is besides the point.
https://refusefascism.org/2017/08/06/this-nightmare-must-end-the-trumppence-regime-must-go/
I pose (4) questions:
A. Two part question: Is this a serious issue and should we consider this a legitimate threat? And, Is this a call for Antifa/Left to take action against ordinary people just to spite President Trump?
B. Should ordinary people like you and I be involved in any aspect if mass riots/attacks do happen in our own towns? Should we as responsible men and women intervene or sit on the sidelines and watch?
C. Should we as responsible law abiding citizens prepare for the worse in the coming weeks, obviously I don't think Antifa is going to go door to door, but they are known to disrupt traffic, block intersections, create human barriers and use violence while trying to make there point?
D. Or is all of this just a bunch of horseshit and the left/antifa crying for attention and November 4th, 2017 will turn out just like any other ordinary day?
Moose-Knuckle
10-28-17, 17:33
I wished a mutha****a would . . .
In the wise words of the Buddha,
"Don't start nothing, won't be nothing".
BoringGuy45
10-28-17, 17:47
Our involvement? Read what John Parker said in my sig line.
My thought on this though, is that there will be a few thousand people protesting in a few cities across the U.S...but their parents are going to want them home by 6.
In the wise words of the Buddha,
"Don't start nothing, won't be nothing".I thought that was Will Smith?!?!
As a Jew, if Trump and co are fascist then i guess I'll be wearing the swastika arm band. That's not to say that I agree with everything Trump but when it comes to current Liberal vs Conservative then ...yea.... I'm a fascist
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Like Reagan said freedom is only one generation away from extinction....it's always a problem to one degree or another. Sometimes more sometimes less. And no I wouldn't join with the Nov 4th yahoos to do anything. They probably ARE the real fascists.
FromMyColdDeadHand
10-28-17, 17:51
How it this not treason? They aren’t talking about the legitimate and legal actions of impeachment or removal under the 25A- this is pure street violence until a democratically elected leader is removed from office.
Nice timing with Meuller too.....
I guess we need counter memes of babies with pacifiers and diapers. Actually pacifiers with lead shot in the bulbs would be kind of fun to throw at them.
I thought that was Will Smith?!?!
As a Jew, if Trump and co are fascist then i guess I'll be wearing the swastika arm band. That's not to say that I agree with everything Trump but when it comes to current Liberal vs Conservative then ...yea.... I'm a fascist
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Maybe Hunter S. Thompson.
BoringGuy45
10-28-17, 18:04
How it this not treason? They aren’t talking about the legitimate and legal actions of impeachment or removal under the 25A- this is pure street violence until a democratically elected leader is removed from office.
Nice timing with Meuller too.....
Anyone who did this could be charged with terrorism. Terror is, as defined in Webster's dictionary: "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."
Thus, terrorism is not limited to driving planes into buildings, taking hostages, assassinations, etc. Blocking traffic on a highway in order to disrupt the daily lives of civilians, bursting into lawful political meetings of rivals, making death threats to educational institutions to force them to cancel conservative speakers, would all be examples of using violence and intimidation in pursuit of a political aim. Antifa does all of the above and more.
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Maybe Hunter S. Thompson.Yea....it was in The Men in Black movie
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FromMyColdDeadHand
10-28-17, 18:41
Yep, they are not talking about legitimate action, but mob violence until Trump/Pence are removed. And if you read further, any other ‘Nazi’ won’t do, so you think that Ryan, or even a mainline Dem would make them happy?
https://refusefascism.org/2017/03/25/refuse-fascism-f-a-q/#three
Check out their ‘game plan’.. Lot’s of discussion of initial stuff and complaints, but no real end point. Almost like it is designed to make a lot of noise and fail. I think what the leaders want is to get Trump, or some supporters to overreact. You know the Russians and others will be trying to rile people up. Wouldn’t doubt some false flag ops, Palestinian style, to try to lay blame on NAZIs.
Let’s hope it is a lot of noise and fake fury.
Kind of funny if the lefties are the ones that end up in the rumored FEMA camps....
I still don’t like the Meuller timing.
Actually it was the old black lady from Martin paraphrasing the Buddha.
Anyways, words and titles mean
things.
Not everybody to the Right of Lenin is a Fascist. Most people are centrist or apolitical.
And its crap like this that is genuinely UnAmerican. In order to "prevent" America from being full of guys in black clothes goose-stepping with Red flags they want to go goose-stepping with Red flags wearing all black.
When they are calling actual, literal practicing Jews "Nazis" and "Anti-Semites" that is just a total lack of self-awareness.
If you want to stand around, without obstructing people, and wave commie flags and LARP; go nuts.
When you start threatening armed overthrow and destruction, then that is totally unacceptable.
I get it....being young and wanting to feel "dangerous". But..again. I was a younger person for Obama's tenure and while I didn't like it. I just shrugged and lived life. FWIW, I didnt like Dubya much either esp. after the 'patriot' act.
Enough people have already been hurt and killed at these little show outs and I just dont see us getting through 3 or 7 more years of this being a constant issue.
My fear is they are gonna do something in the wrong place and the American My Lai happens.
When I was that age, I did NOT care about politics. Most of the people who did were dreamer types who think the government can grant wishes or make miracles.
That if "everybody" paid their "fair share" that it would be like a John Lennon song.
And same goes for the cute little "Alt-Right" LARPers wanting to stir the pot arguing for "American Shariah" and all.
People just want to be left alone.
Not Rock the Vote nor Save the Whales.
They literally want to come home, siddown, and chill.
In times past folks could disagree. People are trying to take that option away.
Not a smart idea.
I pose (4) questions:
A. Two part question: Is this a serious issue and should we consider this a legitimate threat? And, Is this a call for Antifa/Left to take action against ordinary people just to spite President Trump?
B. Should ordinary people like you and I be involved in any aspect if mass riots/attacks do happen in our own towns? Should we as responsible men and women intervene or sit on the sidelines and watch?
C. Should we as responsible law abiding citizens prepare for the worse in the coming weeks, obviously I don't think Antifa is going to go door to door, but they are known to disrupt traffic, block intersections, create human barriers and use violence while trying to make there point?
D. Or is all of this just a bunch of horseshit and the left/antifa crying for attention and November 4th, 2017 will turn out just like any other ordinary day?
A little bit of A and a little bit of D depending upon your zip code.
Don't fall for it, this is a timed distraction like they always try to play to. They can only play that card so many times before they wear that out. They try to move the broader discussion in their favor, it works less and less with each time.
Folks have gone absolutely positively bat shit crazy. We're 9 months into the Trump admin and the only fascists I see are coming from the left. I hope nothing happens around here on the 4th, I have little tolerance for fools.
I'd love to see a crackdown on antifa's financiers. Let's see how long they can keep up their terrorist activities for free.
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I'd love to see a crackdown on antifa's financiers. Let's see how long they can keep up their terrorist activities for free.
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Someone would need to designate them as a terrorist org and create an asset seizure free for all.
Jeff Sessions....... Sessions.......................Sessions
Do individual states have the ability to declare them terrieist orgs and go after them. It that Cali or NY will do it, but maybe TX and some others could.
Someone would need to designate them as a terrorist org and create an asset seizure free for all.
Jeff Sessions....... Sessions.......................Sessions
Do individual states have the ability to declare them terrieist orgs and go after them. It that Cali or NY will do it, but maybe TX and some others could.AG Paxton would be one to do that.
Anyone know if RICO can be applied to antifa?
Averageman
10-28-17, 22:14
So if Dad tells his 24 year old Son to pack his stuff, get a job and move out of the basement, does that make him a fascist?
If you voted and your candidate didn't make it past the primaries, is the system ran by a bunch of fascists?
If you are on double secret academic probation at the local Junior College and cant get another Pell Grant are the Pell Grant folks fascists too?
If you step in gum on the street and screw up your sixty dollar Chuck Taylors, did a fascist spit it there on purpose?
If you pay your own freight in this world and go about getting an education or a trade and perhaps even an adult life, do you have time for this silly kind of crap?
These Muppets are only a danger to themselves.
I think antifa has zero percent to do with fascism and 100% to do with destabilizing the country.
You know......Good times make weak men.
I remember watching the Wall come down on TV and how everyone thought world peace had occurred. Esp. post Desert Storm and ABC News playing the last time the Hammer amd Sickle flew over Moscow.
Like the 90s, despite Bill Clinton, was an easy time. People looked forward to the year 2000. People dressed more fun. People cared about stuff. Like there was literally no cares. Hell, even disliking Clinton made for good late night TV. There were bad things that happened but I remember the decade well and it being carefree. People only really wanted to get laid or get high.
Go watch Clueless. That was how it was for almost 10 years. Bubblegum music, hanging out, and punching V cards. White kids and black kids hung out no problem.
Then came Bush and Gore and the trail of tears but after a while people got over themselves.
But now.....We've had people trying to restart the Cold War, lots of terrorism, two wars, a severe loss of privacy, and these KIDS are complaining that we aren't communist?
DJT, IMO, is an asshole and a buffoon. We might get good stuff but at a cost of some dignity. I had thought he would dial it back. No. That said....the opposition has lost their damn minds.
I think people have lost the concept of consequences and are being egged on by malcontents.
I know some hippies who really...really are like hippies who think this lot are retarded.
Like....its getting like THX 1138 where people want to be bald and non-binary and I dunno what.
America is a good ass deal. Millionaires and actors threaten to leave but never do.
The freedom we have is unrivaled. Like Obama was an asshole but shit aside from Obamacare life went on.
If these kids would turn off their phones and TV for a week and realize that none of this shit matters, they would push on with life.
Nothing in tbe past 12 months is worth a single brick or human life. Had HRC won, I would've said that sucks and pushed on.
In 20 years, HRC and DJT will, statistically speaking, be wormfood. I however will not. And these KIDS are younger than me. And the short-sightedness by otherwise grown people is depressing.
Oh boy....somebody got shot or caught a felony disrupting other people. Yep, that'll look good once they hit their 40s.
Toooootally worth it I'm sure.
The late teens and mid 20s are a phase. They could be trying to get a degree or job they want or starting a life. Nope.
Being a dumbass. Well....Like I tell folks on the street. Don't do nothing you can't live with. Life is longer than you think.
LMT Shooter
10-29-17, 00:23
America is a good ass deal. Millionaires and actors threaten to leave but never do.
The freedom we have is unrivaled.
This is worth repeating.
One of the reasons I didn't initially like DJT was the Make America Great Again slogan. F that, man, the USA has been the greatest damn country on the planet for a long time. Our immigration problems are a prime example of this. Folks in other countries see a better option and take it. We do not have a mass exodus of US citizens who have found a better option because THERE AIN'T ONE. Some fools just refuse to accept that truth. We may have gone downhill in ways, but America is great now, and was prior to DJT coming up with that slogan. I love my country (I said my country, that does not mean I love all politicians or all of the things our government does) and FU to those who do not.
These AntiFa fools may cause problems, who knows. But this bashing of the USA that they do pisses me off. I do like the "love it or leave it" philosophy and wish these buttholes would just go that route.
BoringGuy45
10-29-17, 01:52
Folks have gone absolutely positively bat shit crazy. We're 9 months into the Trump admin and the only fascists I see are coming from the left. I hope nothing happens around here on the 4th, I have little tolerance for fools.
The thing with the far left is that they really don't have any problem with anything that Hitler (or Mussolini for that matter) did, they only (claim to) have a problem with why he did it. The left believes that genocide is a good thing, so long as you're exterminating the right people for the right reasons.
Communism is not a dirty word like fascism or Nazism, despite all of the above being one in the same with different names and superficial differences. To this day, American kids either don't believe that communism was as bad and as false as those who survived it say it was, OR, they believe that those who had it bad deserved it.
It’s gonna be a good day. I’m home. A cold front just moved in. I’m feeling as spry as a rutting buck.
AG Paxton would be one to do that.
Anyone know if RICO can be applied to antifa?
A RICO case? Maybe to indict Soros but this isn't organized crime, this is straight up terrorism!! The Patriot Act would supersede. Read Patriot Act, Title VIII https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act,_Title_VIII
Communism is not a dirty word like fascism or Nazism, despite all of the above being one in the same with different names and superficial differences.
Try telling that to a tenured college economics professor!!!! Most universities would kick you out for saying crazy shit like that!
I wish some Nation State that Soros has been messing with would say enough already and drop the hammer on him and his kids.
November 4th will be simple from my point of view, I will go to work. If during my day I run across these idiots and it turns south I will do what I need to do to go home. I will then watch the news of these idiots across the country.
Part of me will wish that the police would round these guys up in the dead of night and put a bullet in their head. Part of me will thank G-D the police don't round them up and put a bullet in their head.
But the leaders should be arrested and charged with every crime possible, take away the leadership and the movement should die.
Diamondback
10-29-17, 06:05
I wish some Nation State that Soros has been messing with would say enough already and drop the hammer on him and his kids.
November 4th will be simple from my point of view, I will go to work. If during my day I run across these idiots and it turns south I will do what I need to do to go home. I will then watch the news of these idiots across the country.
Part of me will wish that the police would round these guys up in the dead of night and put a bullet in their head. Part of me will thank G-D the police don't round them up and put a bullet in their head.
But the leaders should be arrested and charged with every crime possible, take away the leadership and the movement should die.
Problem is, if you take out the nominal "leaders" without going after the Steyer-Soros-Bloomberg bankrollers... if you don't cut off the money, they'll just hire new strategists to push their agenda. Cut off the head means not just cutting the replaceable puppetstrings, but going after the puppetmasters lurking in the shadows...
gunrunner505
10-29-17, 06:27
These guys are pathetic. If you go looking for trouble, don’t be surprised when you find it. They are exactly what they claim to be against. The only fascists or Nazis or whatever they claim to be against this week are running around in black with a mask being fascist and Nazis. If you have the balls to do this shit then you have the balls to lose the mask. They go begging for a punch in the face and then want to play the victim when they get punched in the face. Go home junior, mom’s making olive loaf.
If I’m out with my family that day and some of these chuckleheads threaten their safety? Well....
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These young, poorly educated (indoctrinated) people do NOT understand what true Communism is because they don't know history. They think it is just getting free stuff from the government, and everybody gets to stay home, eat, play games and party on someone else's dime. Our society, and government allow PEACEFUL protest. Lately we've been allowing a certain about of violent protest which is wrong. If true communists, or fascists were in power, they'd just be shot.
The government gives out free stuff in exchange for our freedom. They can keep their free stuff!
antifa training video (their financiers conveniently leave out the part where justice prevails in the end):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wAtjDAyv4M
These young, poorly educated (indoctrinated) people do NOT understand what true Communism is because they don't know history. They think it is just getting free stuff from the government, and everybody gets to stay home, eat, play games and party on someone else's dime. Our society, and government allow PEACEFUL protest. Lately we've been allowing a certain about of violent protest which is wrong. If true communists, or fascists were in power, they'd just be shot.
Game, set and match. But more importantly, if you WANT socialism, well Canada is right there and if you WANT communism well Cuba is right there. By all means relocate your antifa ass to the nearest Marxist utopia.
Game, set and match. But more importantly, if you WANT socialism, well Canada is right there and if you WANT communism well Cuba is right there. By all means relocate your antifa ass to the nearest Marxist utopia.
This! For Pete's sake, if it's so damn bad, get the f out! Especially all you celebrities and pols who were going to leave if Trump won; just go already.
You know what....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVqJIzgjsa0
Diamondback
10-29-17, 16:49
This! For Pete's sake, if it's so damn bad, get the f out! Especially all you celebrities and pols who were going to leave if Trump won; just go already.
The funny thing is, if my girlfriend's giving me the straight dope (admittedly, she's a bit left of most of us here, but so pro-gun as to make Frenchy Fudd LaPierre like like a Bloombugger) THEY don't want 'em either... time for a Reverse Mariel Boatlift.
FromMyColdDeadHand
10-29-17, 17:00
It would be nice to have a state-by-state breakdown of the self-defense options from SYG to the ability to drive your way out of ambushes. This is terrorism. Lawless action and violence for political change is terrorism.
These sound right:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2383
18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or.....
Averageman
10-29-17, 17:19
I lived through the sixties, this isn't the sixties and anti-fa couldn't hold a candle to the radicals of yesteryear.
Anytime they feel froggy enough they can always jump, but that isn't going to happen.
There is an amazing difference in the level of commitment and today, well, they aint got it.
It would be nice to have a state-by-state breakdown of the self-defense options from SYG to the ability to drive your way out of ambushes. This is terrorism. Lawless action and violence for political change is terrorism.
These sound right:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2383
18 U.S. Code § 2383 - Rebellion or insurrection
Whoever incites, sets on foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof, or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 808; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(L), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)
18 U.S. Code § 2385 - Advocating overthrow of Government
Whoever knowingly or willfully advocates, abets, advises, or teaches the duty, necessity, desirability, or propriety of overthrowing or destroying the government of the United States or the government of any State, Territory, District or Possession thereof, or the government of any political subdivision therein, by force or violence, or by the assassination of any officer of any such government; or.....
I've seen those as listed ways to trim some personal from basic schooling to higher universities. For good bad or otherwise, I haven't seen that happen. Maybe, the application of the law isn't so equal?
mkmckinley
10-29-17, 17:37
I lived through the sixties, this isn't the sixties and anti-fa couldn't hold a candle to the radicals of yesteryear.
Anytime they feel froggy enough they can always jump, but that isn't going to happen.
There is an amazing difference in the level of commitment and today, well, they aint got it.
Interesting, I wouldn't mind seeing you expound on this a little.
platoonDaddy
10-29-17, 17:39
I lived through the sixties, this isn't the sixties and anti-fa couldn't hold a candle to the radicals of yesteryear.
Anytime they feel froggy enough they can always jump, but that isn't going to happen.
There is an amazing difference in the level of commitment and today, well, they aint got it.
AMEN on the 60's & 70's. melville with his bombings, the weather undergound declaring war, seal, newton, carmichael & brown the black panthers, sds and the rest of the shit radicals.
So far the radicals of today, are snowflakes compared to the radicals of the 60's & 70's. The 70's with the exception of 1977 over 200 LEO's killed per year.
Weather’s attacks began three months later, and by 1971 protest bombings had spread across the country. In a single eighteen-month period during 1971 and 1972 the FBI counted an amazing 2,500 bombings on American soil, almost five a day. Because they were typically detonated late at night, few caused serious injury, leading to a kind of grudging public acceptance. The deadliest underground attack of the decade, in fact, killed all of four people, in the January 1975 bombing of a Wall Street restaurant. News accounts rarely carried any expression or indication of public outrage.
Consider what happened when another Puerto Rican group detonated a small bomb in a Bronx cinema while a rapt crowd watched a movie called The Liberation of L.B. Jones. When police ordered everyone to leave, an NYPD spokesman complained, the audience angry refused, demanding to see the rest of the movie. When police insisted, “They about tore the place apart.”
Note; people|groups I dislike, I don't capitalize their name.
Averageman
10-29-17, 17:47
Interesting, I wouldn't mind seeing you expound on this a little.
Nobody from anti-fa or the blm has shot it out with the Cops, robbed any banks and no one has set off any bombs, no one has done much of anything except some rather mild street fighting and some arson and liqueur store looting.
So far these groups have shown a lot of loud talking and a lack of action. How many times does that threat need to be made and nothing happen before people begin to understand we're dealing with the threat and not the real probability of real and coordinated violence?
In the sixties they were setting off bombs and killing LEO's, now, well, not so much. they do threaten it, they just don't follow through.
Diamondback
10-29-17, 18:07
I've seen those as listed ways to trim some personal from basic schooling to higher universities. For good bad or otherwise, I haven't seen that happen. Maybe, the application of the law isn't so equal?
There's a reason Khrushchev's KGB went so all-in on infiltrating and subverting academia... everything else is downstream from the schools, once you have those all you need to do is pump the kids' skulls full of indoctrination and propaganda then wait for the older generations to die off. (Maybe with a little help by pushing "euthanasia"...) And then you subvert the Public Policy and Poli Sci programs so the next generation of General Schedule pencilpushers are properly indoctrinated... oh hell, who are we kidding, the bureaucracy has been infested with the ideological spawn of Marx since before the turn of the 20th Century.
Really, once you take enough foothold in the colleges to subvert their Education programs that train the primary and secondary schoolteachers, the rest is dominoes from there. I know how these people think, in my early years I was educated among them as if I were one of their own children... thank God for crotchety old bus-drivers and Rush Limbaugh (this was 1980s-90s) giving a dose of counteracting reality. "One set of rules for those meant to rule, another for those meant to be ruled... to each according to their needs, and naturally the needs of one Nomenklatura are greater and more important than those of ten Proles."
I always like when Averageman chimes in. He makes a good point.
These people will come and go. I just hope their childishness doesnt get anyone killed.
Like the underlying sentiment is....I'm for law and order when properly applied. Because somebody's gotta protect you from me.
There's a reason Khrushchev's KGB went so all-in on infiltrating and subverting academia... everything else is downstream from the schools, once you have those all you need to do is pump the kids' skulls full of indoctrination and propaganda then wait for the older generations to die off. (Maybe with a little help by pushing "euthanasia"...)
This^^^. Education, a proper education, is the key. I read a biography of Francis Marion by James Dobein Williams, who served with Gen. Marion throughout his campaigns in the south. One of Williams's last visit with him before Marion's death he told Williams something that was very profound. He said that education is the key to freedom. The children and the people must be educated to understand and keep their freedom. How true, and the socialists/communists who wish to destroy us from within know it.
FromMyColdDeadHand
10-29-17, 18:58
Nobody from anti-fa or the blm has shot it out with the Cops, robbed any banks and no one has set off any bombs, no one has done much of anything except some rather mild street fighting and some arson and liqueur store looting.
So far these groups have shown a lot of loud talking and a lack of action. How many times does that threat need to be made and nothing happen before people begin to understand we're dealing with the threat and not the real probability of real and coordinated violence?
In the sixties they were setting off bombs and killing LEO's, now, well, not so much. they do threaten it, they just don't follow through.
Except for Dallas and Arkansas where LEOs were directly targeted. I think the difference now is that there isn’t teh same CinC that there was in earlier groups. They are more of a leaderless movement, so that they can swear off individuals acts. For some reason, the right is not given the same luxury as seen in Charlottesville.
Averageman
10-29-17, 19:09
Except for Dallas and Arkansas where LEOs were directly targeted. I think the difference now is that there isn’t teh same CinC that there was in earlier groups. They are more of a leaderless movement, so that they can swear off individuals acts. For some reason, the right is not given the same luxury as seen in Charlottesville.
Good Point, Thanks.
They're in a unique position to accept or deny the connection between the organization and the random acts of violence by what I feel are crazy anarchists.
Essentially you can claim to be a member of any of these organizations and so what does that prove, or even mean? I would guess that you "Identity" with the organization at some level.
Even still these guys are the JV Team compared to what we experienced in the 1960's.
I have a few ideas:
We could hire a black hacker from the Netherlands and rent an air gapped mail exchange server on the TOR network from Gibraltar and send out malicious malware/ransomware to certain government officials with the Refuse Fascism IP as the source- NSA would take down the website and would launch an investigation into cyber crimes.
We could hire a Iranian ex-patriot living in Costa Rica and set up a 3rd party NPO in Panama and donate money from a Iranian currency exchange company to Refuse Fascism through and investment bank in the Cook Islands- It would appear that Iran was financing Antifa and FBI would launch investigation in matter of hours and levy all bank accounts associated with RF.
We could hire an attorney from Venezuela who is actively involved in laundering money for the Mexican drug cartels, he sets up a offshore trust and checking account in Jakarta under the name of Refuse Fascism, we then hire a shill from Chechnya who used the founder of RF name to inquire via US registered Iridium sat phone, about making a large weapon purchases from source countries like Botswana, Zambia and Angola and having them shipped to Haiti and transferred to go fast boats to be delivered to the US. All of his expenses are paid using Refuse Fascism checks that are linked back to US based RF PayPal account. - FBI takes down RF in as little as a day.
We could come up with about $50K USD and retain an ex Kremlin intelligence agent to represent us in working with the Pakistani ISI to infiltrate the Refuse Fascism website from the back end. Once we have access to there website, Facebook, email, we go to India and hire a small team of software engineers and coders to build us a replica website that was Pro America, Pro Trump, Pro 2A, Pro Life and demonized the left and there agenda. On November 3rd, 2017, we set up a server in Argentina under the code name "Ghost Wind", we enable operation Ghost Wind precisely at 12:01 AM 11/3/17 cutting of Refuse Fascism from the outside world completely.
I have a few ideas:
We could hire a black hacker from the Netherlands and rent an air gapped mail exchange server on the TOR network from Gibraltar and send out malicious malware/ransomware to certain government officials with the Refuse Fascism IP as the source- NSA would take down the website and would launch an investigation into cyber crimes.
We could hire a Iranian ex-patriot living in Costa Rica and set up a 3rd party NPO in Panama and donate money from a Iranian currency exchange company to Refuse Fascism through and investment bank in the Cook Islands- It would appear that Iran was financing Antifa and FBI would launch investigation in matter of hours and levy all bank accounts associated with RF.
We could hire an attorney from Venezuela who is actively involved in laundering money for the Mexican drug cartels, he sets up a offshore trust and checking account in Jakarta under the name of Refuse Fascism, we then hire a shill from Chechnya who used the founder of RF name to inquire via US registered Iridium sat phone, about making a large weapon purchases from source countries like Botswana, Zambia and Angola and having them shipped to Haiti and transferred to go fast boats to be delivered to the US. All of his expenses are paid using Refuse Fascism checks that are linked back to US based RF PayPal account. - FBI takes down RF in as little as a day.
We could come up with about $50K USD and retain an ex Kremlin intelligence agent to represent us in working with the Pakistani ISI to infiltrate the Refuse Fascism website from the back end. Once we have access to there website, Facebook, email, we go to India and hire a small team of software engineers and coders to build us a replica website that was Pro America, Pro Trump, Pro 2A, Pro Life and demonized the left and there agenda. On November 3rd, 2017, we set up a server in Argentina under the code name "Ghost Wind", we enable operation Ghost Wind precisely at 12:01 AM 11/3/17 cutting of Refuse Fascism from the outside world completely.
No matter how "well intentioned", crime is still crime.
I ride with The Duke, cuz. I don't sink to a snake's level mainly because I get the giggles when I try to lie.
I feel like promoting "refuse" in the noun version when used in "refuse fascism" in order to marginalize them.
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vicious_cb
10-30-17, 00:01
I lived through the sixties, this isn't the sixties and anti-fa couldn't hold a candle to the radicals of yesteryear.
Anytime they feel froggy enough they can always jump, but that isn't going to happen.
There is an amazing difference in the level of commitment and today, well, they aint got it.
Dont underestimate your enemy. These groups are 1 charismatic and switched on leader to becoming a real threat. The ass hat below is currently attending ranger school. What do you think he's going to do with those skills when he gets back to the world?
http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/us/2017/10/05/west-point-grad-behind-pro-communist-photos-reportedly-was-flagged-to-superiors-in-2015/_jcr_content/par/featured_image/media-0.img.jpg/931/524/1507217897904.jpg?ve=1&tl=1
FromMyColdDeadHand
10-30-17, 00:35
Seriously, how did this guy not get pummled on general principle? Fall down a flight of stairs?
Dont underestimate your enemy. These groups are 1 charismatic and switched on leader to becoming a real threat. The ass hat below is currently attending ranger school. What do you think he's going to do with those skills when he gets back to the world?
http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/us/2017/10/05/west-point-grad-behind-pro-communist-photos-reportedly-was-flagged-to-superiors-in-2015/_jcr_content/par/featured_image/media-0.img.jpg/931/524/1507217897904.jpg?ve=1&tl=1
Probably realize everyone has his name and number and people are just waiting for him to F up even a little bit. He wasn't even smart enough to "keep it under his hat" literally and proved that everything is street cred facebook status in the end.
Although I honestly don't understand why the Rangers, US Army or any military branch would even have him. People were getting kicked out in the 80s if they simply went to a meeting.
We shouldn't underestimate anyone, f-tard losers with nothing to lose who are ideologically devoted to a cause that is central to their personal identity can wreak a lot of havoc just as we saw in the 60s. But Averageman has a very real point that there won't be another SLA willing to shoot it out with SWAT or a WU willing to actually try to go to war with the US government and every citizen of our nation.
If they have the numbers to pressure local government via MSM they will throw rocks, molotov cocktails, vandalize and destroy property and shit like that. But the last time anyone "got real" was probably the Rodney King riots and even with an absence of law enforcement groups as humble as local korean grocers were able to draw a line and enforce it.
The first time the Antifags try to take over anything with force and law and order takes a holiday, they would get thinned out pretty fast and violently. They might bring guns to the war, but the defending home team is going to bring mags, ammo and a willingness to defend family and property.
As has been stated many times before, the police are actually protecting them from us.
Dont underestimate your enemy. These groups are 1 charismatic and switched on leader to becoming a real threat. The ass hat below is currently attending ranger school. What do you think he's going to do with those skills when he gets back to the world?
Not arguing with your point - just more info:
2LT Rapone is prior enlisted, notice the CIB and medals/ribbons. Reportedly he served in one of the Ranger Battalions as an enlisted man although he didn't tab, apparently he also wears the Battalion Scroll as a combat patch.
There is one rumor circulating that he had attended the Ranger Course and been dropped after failing his patrols in Mountain Phase and sent back to his unit.
As of September 28th, Stars and Stripes had him in the 10th Mountain Division.
https://www.stripes.com/news/us/army-officer-under-fire-for-inflammatory-social-media-posts-1.490206#.Wc52Lle0m70
Seriously, how did this guy not get pummled on general principle? Fall down a flight of stairs?
There is a whole thread on this guy on another site. Apparently he has some defenders. As well as many who want to see him cashiered. If he professes a Communist ideology, I'm in the cashiered camp.
There is also a LTC (Ret) who served as an instructor/professor at West Point who made public a report he had written regarding Rapone, and then published an open letter to USMA Alumni. Whether the reports and letter are valid or not, the LTC writes like you would imagine Frank Burns would write if someone dissed Major Houlihan. Regarding the open letter to USMA Alumni, I reached out to a family friend whose son Graduated in the Class of 2015. They were active in the parents association and attended events at the Academy. I was told their son never mentioned anything and they did not see anything during their time on the campus which would parallel what the LTC was reporting about lax standards.
Here's the report - which, as I said reads like something Frank Burns would write, the man was a LTC, to the point of the post I quoted above, why didn't he (the LTC) take care of it on the spot and then write the report?
https://www.scribd.com/document/360708005/Heffington-Sworn-Statement-18-Nov-2015-Signed-2#from_embed
Here's a copy of his letter to the alumni: https://medium.com/@UlisseRJ/open-letter-to-grads-from-ltc-ret-heffington-659dac71511f
I don't know who disgusts me more Commie Rapone or the LTC.
Sad state of affairs.
BoringGuy45
10-30-17, 01:58
Probably realize everyone has his name and number and people are just waiting for him to F up even a little bit. He wasn't even smart enough to "keep it under his hat" literally and proved that everything is street cred facebook status in the end.
Although I honestly don't understand why the Rangers, US Army or any military branch would even have him. People were getting kicked out in the 80s if they simply went to a meeting.
We shouldn't underestimate anyone, f-tard losers with nothing to lose who are ideologically devoted to a cause that is central to their personal identity can wreak a lot of havoc just as we saw in the 60s. But Averageman has a very real point that there won't be another SLA willing to shoot it out with SWAT or a WU willing to actually try to go to war with the US government and every citizen of our nation.
That's what separates today's leftist ****tards from the 60s leftists: Today's radical youth have a lot to lose. Many of the 60s radicals were in fact oppressed people, or had been screwed over by the government, and felt they had nothing left to lose, so they were willing to kill, and if necessary, die for their cause. Today's radical youth enjoy their concept of socialism; that is, everyone contributes whatever they feel led to contribute to society, even it's nothing, and in return, they get absolutely everything they want without having to work for it. The thing with Antifa is, they know that if they kill, it could end up with them being killed, either by return fire or on a gurney in a prison. They'll smack people with bike locks, they set cars on fire, but I don't think many of them are ready to die yet.
That said, this is a blanket statement, and there ARE those out there who are willing to give up everything to achieve their goals. I have a feeling this West Point guy could end up being a household name at some point in the future. He'll have combat training, leadership experience, and apparently he's willing to speak out and risk his whole career for what he believes in.
Well everybody gotta be different I guess.....
What do I think he's going to do with his skills when he gets in the real world?
Either get a teaching job or sit up and smoke weed all day and be a deadbeat dad.
I know lots of "dangerous" people who end up being white trash and/or re-living their moment in the sun like Al Bundy going on about his 4 touchdowns in a single game in high school to anybody who will listen. They might get pity sex or wife up some bicycle but that's it.
If he was going to do something, he'd have done it by now.
Or....he might grow out of it.
I dont care either way.
Diamondback
10-30-17, 04:00
I have a few ideas:
We could hire a black hacker from the Netherlands and rent an air gapped mail exchange server on the TOR network from Gibraltar and send out malicious malware/ransomware to certain government officials with the Refuse Fascism IP as the source- NSA would take down the website and would launch an investigation into cyber crimes.
We could hire a Iranian ex-patriot living in Costa Rica and set up a 3rd party NPO in Panama and donate money from a Iranian currency exchange company to Refuse Fascism through and investment bank in the Cook Islands- It would appear that Iran was financing Antifa and FBI would launch investigation in matter of hours and levy all bank accounts associated with RF.
We could hire an attorney from Venezuela who is actively involved in laundering money for the Mexican drug cartels, he sets up a offshore trust and checking account in Jakarta under the name of Refuse Fascism, we then hire a shill from Chechnya who used the founder of RF name to inquire via US registered Iridium sat phone, about making a large weapon purchases from source countries like Botswana, Zambia and Angola and having them shipped to Haiti and transferred to go fast boats to be delivered to the US. All of his expenses are paid using Refuse Fascism checks that are linked back to US based RF PayPal account. - FBI takes down RF in as little as a day.
We could come up with about $50K USD and retain an ex Kremlin intelligence agent to represent us in working with the Pakistani ISI to infiltrate the Refuse Fascism website from the back end. Once we have access to there website, Facebook, email, we go to India and hire a small team of software engineers and coders to build us a replica website that was Pro America, Pro Trump, Pro 2A, Pro Life and demonized the left and there agenda. On November 3rd, 2017, we set up a server in Argentina under the code name "Ghost Wind", we enable operation Ghost Wind precisely at 12:01 AM 11/3/17 cutting of Refuse Fascism from the outside world completely.
Devious, treacherous and clever. Problem is, most of the Millennial hipsterdouches we see of the Refuseniks on TV and FB/Twitter/etc. are just the Propaganda Film Soldiers--the real threat is their fellow true-believers in the Deep State bureaucracy, who will take any pretext for further power-grab and erosion of our rights.
Diamondback
10-30-17, 05:27
There is a whole thread on this guy on another site. Apparently he has some defenders. As well as many who want to see him cashiered. If he professes a Communist ideology, I'm in the cashiered camp.
I'd say he should be demoted to "last grade of satisfactory service" and THEN cashiered. Preferably with some UCMJ felonies so this guy is kept tabs on for the rest of his life... he's got the violent revolutionary ideology and the combat experience to back it up, we don't want him laying hands on hardware to carry it out if it can reasonably be prevented.
Frankly, I'm not sure he can be trusted with the responsibilities of a McDonald's french-fry cook. Then again, I say that of most people my generation and younger... maybe we'll collectively wise up when we hit 40 or so.
this guy and his communist crap is the reason I reckon my buddy who teaches at Huachuca says its not what it used to be :)
but the reality is nadal hasan or whatever his name was kept serving and telling people they were bad even after being reported and so on and so many others get the free pass etc...
the military and our gov are already quite infiltrated with these types (communists socialists anti US) just look at pretty much every democrat and most the republicans
also the street reality and military reality is night and day he could be shopping at walmart and a punk walk up and POP he is gone ?
we have all seen stories of vets coming back just to be killed in our streets by punks who are most likely back out on the streets already
what we had is over sadly we just have to shape where its going more and start to fight back with tactics twice as hard as the left but that is not happening
how did hitler take over with such a small % well the same way the left has here !
so now in some parts of our country if you work in health care and call some freak by the wrong name you are in trouble and go to jail get fined and so on !! who would have thought that 20 years ago !!!!
hate speech is coming like in Canada where parts of the bible are hate speech and you can again say the wrong thing to some freak and get in serious trouble that will be here soon
speak out against some dude brought over from some crap hole in middle east who has a religion that wants to kill you and says he does !! hey he can rape your daughter with ten of his buddies and you will be the one going to jail if you dare speak out and call it what it is !!!
ask those people to bake a gay cake and deliver it and nothing ? hmmmmmm again nadal killing our own military cause he was a officer !!!!! so that guy will most likely be somewhat the same thing just another of the many infiltrators that has happened
this is not a IF it happens anymore its a when and how far and how quick and sadly none of those things are going back in the bottle
antifa in bed with isis and al qaeda?
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2017/10/29/left-wing-oakland-radicals-worked-with-isis-new-book-reports-n2402063
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Diamondback
10-30-17, 07:47
antifa in bed with isis and al qaeda?
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2017/10/29/left-wing-oakland-radicals-worked-with-isis-new-book-reports-n2402063
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Why not? Dems and Daesh are both united in that bad for America = good for them... War and politics make strange bedfellows.
If you think about it, all we have to do is seize control of all Starbucks, and Chipotles in large urban areas, thus we cut their supply lines they run out of Class 1 and will surrender. Alternatively, we could just hope a handful of them light themselves on fire.
Really though, all I see happening November 4th, if anything, is maybe a few unorganized, self important llittle turds, running around in a few cities here and there, maybe breaking s*** until folks get tired of it, spank the ass, and send them to their rooms.
I wish there was a "color me surprised" smiley. No surprise here about antifa and their terrorist group affiliations. What gets me is that they haven't been designated one yet. Is the gov waiting on mass casualties first?
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Diamondback
10-30-17, 08:06
I wish there was a "color me surprised" smiley. No surprise here about antifa and their terrorist group affiliations. What gets me is that they haven't been designated one yet. Is the gov waiting on mass casualties first?
Remember my prior comment about these guys being Useful Idiots for the Deep State? Their plan is simple...
->Their Antif***tard buddies punch first, goading reaction from us, stronger the better.
->Our side counterpunches.
->Deep State declares "state of emergency," imposes crackdowns, curfews, movement controls, restrictions on where/when/how you can possess arms, and generally tightens the screws. I'm not sure they'd manage to get full Martial Law out of it, but you can bet they cream their skivvies at the idea... and oh by the way, don't forget that the average person commits three Federal felonies a day without even realizing it so anybody who starts looking like "leadership" on our side, well, don't forget that the other team are committed Stalinists and their beloved Uncle Joe *invented* the doctrine of "show me the man and I'll show you the crime."
Yup. The ol' "you never want a serious crisis to go to waste". If there are none, make something up.
I prefer to call the "deep state" commie infiltrators.
Diamondback
10-30-17, 08:39
Yup. The ol' "you never want a serious crisis to go to waste". If there are none, make something up.
I keep trying to tell the rest of the Right, I know these people and how they think on a level few since Horowitz can, I grew up among them and they were trying to groom me to BE one of them, and yet most so-called "mainstream conservatives" (read, McCainiac/NeverTrump Kapos like most of RedState and other Conservatism Inc. Orthodoxy) dismiss me as paranoid when they've never BEEN in the belly of the beast in the middle of Seattle.
It's easy to discuss and dismiss at the safe distance of the Deep South or the heartland... but when you've stared this crap in the eye at Bad Breath Range every day of your life you're close enough to see all the warts and everything.
I prefer to call the "deep state" commie infiltrators.
Exactly what they are... they've been infiltrating since the Wilson Administration, and multiplying generation after generation like a malignant tumor.
just a scout
10-30-17, 10:35
I have a few ideas:
We could hire a black hacker from the Netherlands and rent an air gapped mail exchange server on the TOR network from Gibraltar and send out malicious malware/ransomware to certain government officials with the Refuse Fascism IP as the source- NSA would take down the website and would launch an investigation into cyber crimes.
We could hire a Iranian ex-patriot living in Costa Rica and set up a 3rd party NPO in Panama and donate money from a Iranian currency exchange company to Refuse Fascism through and investment bank in the Cook Islands- It would appear that Iran was financing Antifa and FBI would launch investigation in matter of hours and levy all bank accounts associated with RF.
We could hire an attorney from Venezuela who is actively involved in laundering money for the Mexican drug cartels, he sets up a offshore trust and checking account in Jakarta under the name of Refuse Fascism, we then hire a shill from Chechnya who used the founder of RF name to inquire via US registered Iridium sat phone, about making a large weapon purchases from source countries like Botswana, Zambia and Angola and having them shipped to Haiti and transferred to go fast boats to be delivered to the US. All of his expenses are paid using Refuse Fascism checks that are linked back to US based RF PayPal account. - FBI takes down RF in as little as a day.
We could come up with about $50K USD and retain an ex Kremlin intelligence agent to represent us in working with the Pakistani ISI to infiltrate the Refuse Fascism website from the back end. Once we have access to there website, Facebook, email, we go to India and hire a small team of software engineers and coders to build us a replica website that was Pro America, Pro Trump, Pro 2A, Pro Life and demonized the left and there agenda. On November 3rd, 2017, we set up a server in Argentina under the code name "Ghost Wind", we enable operation Ghost Wind precisely at 12:01 AM 11/3/17 cutting of Refuse Fascism from the outside world completely.
You’re assuming the FBI and govt WANT to take them down.
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You’re assuming the FBI and govt WANT to take them down.
That is a good point
Diamondback
10-30-17, 12:11
That is a good point
Like grnamin above invoked the words of Mayor Deadfish, "Never let a crisis go to waste... and if you can't find one, MAKE one."
Anyone who did this could be charged with terrorism. Terror is, as defined in Webster's dictionary: "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."
Thus, terrorism is not limited to driving planes into buildings, taking hostages, assassinations, etc. Blocking traffic on a highway in order to disrupt the daily lives of civilians, bursting into lawful political meetings of rivals, making death threats to educational institutions to force them to cancel conservative speakers, would all be examples of using violence and intimidation in pursuit of a political aim. Antifa does all of the above and more.
If it had been done under Obama we would still be seeing live coverage of the trails.
Diamondback
10-30-17, 13:15
If it had been done under Obama we would still be seeing live coverage of the trails.
Assuming they didn't get Wacoed or Weavered first on live TV... another round of snuff-porn for Leftists.
Moose-Knuckle
10-31-17, 02:05
The thing with the far left is that they really don't have any problem with anything that Hitler (or Mussolini for that matter) did, they only (claim to) have a problem with why he did it. The left believes that genocide is a good thing, so long as you're exterminating the right people for the right reasons.
Communism is not a dirty word like fascism or Nazism, despite all of the above being one in the same with different names and superficial differences. To this day, American kids either don't believe that communism was as bad and as false as those who survived it say it was, OR, they believe that those who had it bad deserved it.
Bill Ayers mentor to Obama, academic, and founder of the left-wing terrorist organization Weather Underground.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O4EHISQ6Uw
Moose-Knuckle
10-31-17, 02:21
Nobody from anti-fa or the blm has shot it out with the Cops, robbed any banks and no one has set off any bombs, no one has done much of anything except some rather mild street fighting and some arson and liqueur store looting.
So far these groups have shown a lot of loud talking and a lack of action. How many times does that threat need to be made and nothing happen before people begin to understand we're dealing with the threat and not the real probability of real and coordinated violence?
In the sixties they were setting off bombs and killing LEO's, now, well, not so much. they do threaten it, they just don't follow through.
These are just the ones off the top of my head that I remember over the last three years and committed by black identity extremists.
Two NYPD officers 'assassinated' while sitting in patrol car
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/cops-shot-brooklyn-sources-article-1.2051941
Ambushed Texas cop was shot 15 times in head and back
http://nypost.com/2015/08/31/ambushed-texas-cop-was-shot-15-times-in-head-and-back/
Five Dallas Officers Were Killed as Payback, Police Chief Says
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/09/us/dallas-police-shooting.html
Gunman Who Ambushed Baton Rouge Officers Searched For Police Home Addresses
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/30/535093321/gunman-who-ambushed-baton-rouge-officers-searched-for-police-home-addresses
Bill Ayers mentor to Obama, academic, and founder of the left-wing terrorist organization Weather Underground.
Amazing isn't it? Ayers walking around a free man, inspiring others, mentoring a future president. It reflects the apathy and short memory of the American people.
Amazing isn't it? Ayers walking around a free man, inspiring others, mentoring a future president. It reflects the apathy and short memory of the American people.
and was a teacher and had roles in obamas admin for education etc..
FromMyColdDeadHand
10-31-17, 07:57
Nov. 3rd; Mag loading and check your zeroes Day!
Seriously though. I don’t expect much out of this. They are pushing all the usual buttons, but I think,people are a little outrage fatigued. You might get people and some kids playing hookey the first day, but roughing it out until Trump is tarred and feathered and run out of office? Just not seeing it.
Moose-Knuckle
11-01-17, 02:54
Footage from an Antifa protest at Columbia recently . . .
I called this after Obama had SCOTUS legalize gay marriage and let men in the ladies room. The normalization of pedophilia is one of the left's objectives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0eHrX7p46g
Footage from an Antifa protest at Columbia recently . . .
I called this after Obama had SCOTUS legalize gay marriage and let men in the ladies room. The normalization of pedophilia is one of the left's objectives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0eHrX7p46g
When we devolve into a country with no moral absolutes this is what happens.
Eurodriver
11-01-17, 07:59
Footage from an Antifa protest at Columbia recently . . .
I called this after Obama had SCOTUS legalize gay marriage and let men in the ladies room. The normalization of pedophilia is one of the left's objectives.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0eHrX7p46g
Hahaha
Dude. You are a real piece of work.
This is all over the news as being a hoax. Those protesters got trolled by the alt right, and you took it hook, line, and sinker.
Hahaha
Dude. You are a real piece of work.
This is all over the news as being a hoax. Those protesters got trolled by the alt right, and you took it hook, line, and sinker.
I didn’t watch the video and don’t know the story. Can you explain?
Hahaha
Dude. You are a real piece of work.
This is all over the news as being a hoax. Those protesters got trolled by the alt right, and you took it hook, line, and sinker.
I don't understand your last line here. Could you explain? Are these really alt-right people posing as antifa/BLM?
Averageman
11-01-17, 10:47
These are just the ones off the top of my head that I remember over the last three years and committed by black identity extremists.
Two NYPD officers 'assassinated' while sitting in patrol car
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/cops-shot-brooklyn-sources-article-1.2051941
Ambushed Texas cop was shot 15 times in head and back
http://nypost.com/2015/08/31/ambushed-texas-cop-was-shot-15-times-in-head-and-back/
Five Dallas Officers Were Killed as Payback, Police Chief Says
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/09/us/dallas-police-shooting.html
Gunman Who Ambushed Baton Rouge Officers Searched For Police Home Addresses
http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/06/30/535093321/gunman-who-ambushed-baton-rouge-officers-searched-for-police-home-addresses
When all of your members are anonymous, anyone can claim membership after the shenanigans are over.
I don't believe they have that many members willing to fight and die for the cause.
For the most part and in my opinion, there may be a small group of hard core members, but most appear to be hangers n looking for something to do.
You are right though, there has been violence, but how many became allied with their movements only after commiting these crimes?
Moose-Knuckle
11-01-17, 12:44
Hahaha
Dude. You are a real piece of work.
This is all over the news as being a hoax. Those protesters got trolled by the alt right, and you took it hook, line, and sinker.
It's a hoax! It's the Russians! It's fake news! The "news" said so it just gotta be true . . . :lol:
Deflect all you want, defend Antifa, BLM, and NAMBLA your hearts content. If it doesn't fit your agenda then simply say it's not real and it is as if it never happened.
So if Antifa, BLM, et al. actually carry out anything 04 November will you be trolling on the internet blaming "alt-right" for it as well?
Moose-Knuckle
11-01-17, 12:46
You are right though, there has been violence, but how many became allied with their movements only after commiting these crimes?
Not sure there is way to find out just how many were Kool-Aid drinkers before or after such acts. I would surmise though none of those black identity extremists, or any other extremists for that matter just rolled out of bed one morn and decided to commit said acts.
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-01-17, 13:21
Hahaha
Dude. You are a real piece of work.
This is all over the news as being a hoax. Those protesters got trolled by the alt right, and you took it hook, line, and sinker.
What do you mean here?
Hahaha
Dude. You are a real piece of work.
This is all over the news as being a hoax. Those protesters got trolled by the alt right, and you took it hook, line, and sinker.
I followed an Antifa group on Facehole. They shit they posted was so wild and so dumb I'd of wonder if they were trolling. It just seemed to dumb. Turns out it was alt. right trolling and making Antifa look like asshats.
You know, there are somewhere in the neighborhood around 300 millions guns in the US and something like 100 billion rounds of ammo. If there was a gun control problem, I think we would know about it. But it does seem as though, guns and more importantly, "gun control" is the "Agenda" and would be the liberals greatest achievement since FDR's "New Deal" and LBJ's "Great Society". I can help but think the current climate brings liberals to the conclusion that "gun control" is the answer. I was watching TV tonight and MSNBC was covering the NY terrorist attack and it took all of about 1 minute for someone to point out that "gun control" was the solution.
I think antifa is pretty moderate compared to extremist jihadist by all means but I can help but think as long as there is Americans living in America, who are opposed to America, it almost gives the OK to the extremist groups to do what they do- and your not going to hear the left, antifa complain about it and the left, although upset, tend to blame Trump, republicans and guns for the behavior. And these individual attacks do always come back to "gun control", I'm sorry, I mean "sensible, bi partisan, common sense gun control measures for the 21 century".
DO you think Antifa is still around because they will do something that will justify stricter gun control laws? Kind of like why is N Korea still around? The US must REALLY want to nuke them but must be patient and let them make the first move?
A little off subject but still. BLM kills cops and Antifa destroys everything and yet, they are still around?
platoonDaddy
11-02-17, 06:30
Will be interesting to see if anything occurs in the cities mentioned in the below link:
ANTIFA TERRORISTS PLANNING RIOTS NOVEMBER 4 IN THESE CITIES
http://www.pacificpundit.com/2017/11/01/antifa-terrorists-planning-riots-november-4-in-these-cities/
Diamondback
11-02-17, 07:06
Will be interesting to see if anything occurs in the cities mentioned in the below link:
ANTIFA TERRORISTS PLANNING RIOTS NOVEMBER 4 IN THESE CITIES
http://www.pacificpundit.com/2017/11/01/antifa-terrorists-planning-riots-november-4-in-these-cities/
My take as a Washington local:
--Anacortes is in a fairly conservative to moderate part of WA - most of the Leftists are concentrated in the King-Pierce-Snohomish tri-county area, along with northern Thurston--basically the I-5 Corridor from Everett to Olympia. My bet here would be they don't dare get too froggy because of lots of gun owners ready to punch back.
--Colton is about 14 miles south of WSU in Pullman. Eastern WA is Gun Nut Country, so I expect more a bunch of college kids out to "play protest" that ain't got the stones for anything serious.
--Seattle is the worrying point, a malignant deep-blue tumor that has hosted its share of riots before. If the other team decides they feel froggy in the Evergreen State, particularly with SPD seemingly hamstrung by both Federal oversight and PC-run-amok in its top brass, this is where they're gonna jump.
--Spokane is the Democrats' sole major bastion on the Dry Side. This would be Contender #2 after Sodom & Gomorrah on the Sound for Party Starting, but it's also worth noting that this area too is well armed, and back in '94 dethroned a sitting Speaker of the House (remember Tom Foley?) over That Damn Ban. Generally, folks around the Spokane area outside the inner-core leftists love their guns as much as the rest of Eastern WA and ain't gonna stand for a lot of shit--if the other team insists on pooping where they live, my money's on minor disturbance mostly around downtown and/or the more "slum" neighborhoods. Fairchild AFB, home of USAF SERE school and a vital KC-135 tanker base is local too, so I'd expect anything straying too close to the wire to be swiftly and firmly addressed.
Re Louisiana, Bossier City-Shreveport is a military town (Barksdale AFB and nuked-up B-52s), so I'd expect that if anybody tries to start something here, the local authorities--and if they get too close to the base the AF SP's--will be on them like stink on crap.
They have Griffin, Ga on the list? Lmao
Nothing to disrupt there. If they get violent, plenty of armed citizens that will not tolerate their shit getting destroyed. Thats the wrong place to go if you want a lot of news coverage. It's the right place to go if you wanna act a fool and get your ass whipped.
Diamondback
11-02-17, 07:26
They have Griffin, Ga on the list? Lmao
Nothing to disrupt there. If they get violent, plenty of armed citizens that will not tolerate their shit getting destroyed. Thats the wrong place to go if you want a lot of news coverage. It's the right place to go if you wanna act a fool and get your ass whipped.
Maybe that's the goal, something for their spin-doctors to use in propaganda about "those EEEVIL racist crackers and we gotta ban guns so they can't bring violence to our Peaceful Protests!" Remember the thing about if you can't find a good crisis to exploit MAKING one? I think that's the game here... they WANT a violent reaction, anything their media buddies can blow out of proportion and the Deep Staters can use to declare State of Emergency, with all the suspensions of Habeus Corpus etc. they can milk it for. Not to mention a bloody nose to Trump for it happening at all on his watch... though I'd laugh like Hell if this was a massive FBI or DHS sting operation. (And personally, I'd want ICE plentifully deployed at these things looking for illegal aliens among the rioters...)
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-02-17, 07:54
False-Fa.
Colorado Springs the only place in CO? Not likely.
Diamondback
11-02-17, 08:06
False-Fa.
Colorado Springs the only place in CO? Not likely.
I'm also suspicious that they don't list anything in the Portland-Salem-Eugene I-5 Axis of Evil in Oregon (including Vancouver, WA).
I think we can all agree fascism is bad. Good thing we don't have it in the US. Maybe if they took their happy tales to places it's actually in place everyone would get what they want: they could actually protest real fascism; the fascists could really crack skulls on protesters; and they wouldn't be here and nagging us like gadflies.
That part of Ga:
Griffin Ga-Lots of teen aged rednecks.- most of their sisters date black guys and have mixed race babies.
Lots of black thug wanna be's. Probably got drunk and partied with the above rednecks last night.
Thomaston Ga-Same as above. Lots of "Sons of Confederate veterans", Confederate statues, etc. but has yearly "Emancipation Day" events that are always hyped as a flash point but always end up pretty lame.
Butler Ga- vd/AIDS Capitol of the region.
Lots of meth heads.
Despite the dumbasserey, everyone pretty much gets along. Go pick a fight and you'll likely recieve a biracial beating. Professional race baiters have tried but you can't really stir any lasting trouble. Everyone just wants to be left alone. Youd be a fool to go piss that crowd off.
platoonDaddy
11-02-17, 10:12
Have a LEO friend who said all their intel states antifa has no protest planned, though some small leftist groups are planning protest. BUT they have little if zero connections to antifa.
In a nut shell as stated in this thread, it is BS.
They have Griffin, Ga on the list? Lmao
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The hometown of Doc Holliday.
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-02-17, 11:24
The hometown of Doc Holliday.
I'm your Huckleberry..... ;)
"... they've been infiltrating since the Wilson Administration, and multiplying generation after generation like a malignant tumor."
Those were the salad years of the newly hatched Progressives, and they were on a roll--the Long March through the Institutions" before Gramsci coined the phrase. There is a LOT of stuff today that has been incubating for 100 years and more. Our "saviors" know how to exploit our weaknesses, and we let them do it.
Rinse and repeat.
You'd think we'd learn.
Moose-Knuckle
11-02-17, 13:24
Will be interesting to see if anything occurs in the cities mentioned in the below link:
ANTIFA TERRORISTS PLANNING RIOTS NOVEMBER 4 IN THESE CITIES
http://www.pacificpundit.com/2017/11/01/antifa-terrorists-planning-riots-november-4-in-these-cities/
Couldn't help but notice they are not planning on anything in Texas. :lol:
If they get violent, plenty of armed citizens that will not tolerate their shit getting destroyed. Thats the wrong place to go if you want a lot of news coverage. It's the right place to go if you wanna act a fool and get your ass whipped.
That is probably the goal, for some of these black bloc militants to get head canoed so the MSM can play on their cycle that a bunch of well meaning college aged millennials that were simply peacefully assembling and protesting over social injustice were shot down in cold blood by evil Nazi stormtrooping conservatives.
ETA:
Maybe that's the goal, something for their spin-doctors to use in propaganda about "those EEEVIL racist crackers and we gotta ban guns so they can't bring violence to our Peaceful Protests!" Remember the thing about if you can't find a good crisis to exploit MAKING one? I think that's the game here... they WANT a violent reaction, anything their media buddies can blow out of proportion and the Deep Staters can use to declare State of Emergency, with all the suspensions of Habeus Corpus etc. they can milk it for. Not to mention a bloody nose to Trump for it happening at all on his watch... though I'd laugh like Hell if this was a massive FBI or DHS sting operation. (And personally, I'd want ICE plentifully deployed at these things looking for illegal aliens among the rioters...)
Didn't see your post till after I commented on his post as well. Great minds and all that . . .
Couldn't help but notice they are not planning on anything in Texas. :
That is probably the goal, for some of these black bloc militants to get head canoed so the MSM can play on their cycle that a bunch of well meaning college aged millennials that were simply peacefully assembling and protesting over social injustice were shot down in cold blood by evil Nazi stormtrooping conservatives.
ETA:
Didn't see your post till after I commented on his post as well. Great minds and all that . . .
Hmmmm.... nothing in Tennessee, either.
Couldn't help but notice they are not planning on anything in Texas. [emoji38]
That is probably the goal, for some of these black bloc militants to get head canoed so the MSM can play on their cycle that a bunch of well meaning college aged millennials that were simply peacefully assembling and protesting over social injustice were shot down in cold blood by evil Nazi stormtrooping conservatives.
ETA:
Didn't see your post till after I commented on his post as well. Great minds and all that . . .The puppetmasters have zero true believers in their ranks willing to get their heads canoed. That's why they are relying on some poor saps gullible enough to unwittingly donate their heads for canoeing. The PMs just supply the wrong place and the wrong time for the canoees and the canoers.
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Couldn't help but notice they are not planning on anything in Texas. :lol: .
Actually, Austin, as much as we hate admitting it’s part of TX, is on the list of protests. City Hall is the meeting place.
I do wonder if these events turn into riots, can various LEO organizations use RICO statutes to go after the entities paying for the adds? Maybe even use the ad placements as evidence of orchestrated violence to label them as terrorists?
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-02-17, 16:38
Starting to think this is pretty much BS. These things go sideways and it is Chicago ‘68 for the Dems all over.
Has there ever been a riot in Texas?
Diamondback
11-02-17, 16:49
Starting to think this is pretty much BS. These things go sideways and it is Chicago ‘68 for the Dems all over.
That's the other possibility, this may just be desinformatsiya to divert our attention and that of local authorities from where the *real* fireworks are gonna be.
Antifa operates on what's called the Stoplight Model:
Stop light method: Antifa/black bloc terrorists are given a color designation of red, yellow or green. Reds are willing to do illegal shit. Yellows aren’t but they work to disguise the reds, blocking police or anyone else who would try to apprehend the criminal. Greens are basic, low information people who just showed up and aren’t really in on the tactics. When a red commits an illegal act he will run into a crowd of green to disappear before the police can identify him.
Swarming: after an act of violence, vandalism or theft has been perpetrated on a victim by a red, the yellows will surround the victim blocking view of their attacker. Then they will between screaming and shoving signs in the victim’s the face until the attacker has made their getaway. The effect is to create an immediate feeling of confusion and disorientation in the victim.
Violence: they will use violence whenever they see a clear opportunity to do so and get away with it. Violent acts rarely happen alone. When they see on of their own start to attack other will join in until it becomes a mob beatdown. While they tend to shy away from guns Antifa have been known to stick knives in people’s ribs.
http://gotnews.com/antifa-explainer-jason-kessler-themaddimension/
So if that's the "micro" in a single event, what's stopping it from being employed in the macro scale too, with several completely "Green" demonstrations to direct everybody's attention to preparing for while the real Red show is gonna be somewhere else? In short, a domestic-disturbance game of Three Card Monte where we gotta try to figure out which shell the pea's hidden under?
Still think it's going to be a big "nothing-burger" (although I despise that term personally).
If I'm wrong I will readily admit it. Plan on shooting here at home Saturday anyway, and if my wife and I do go somewhere there is always a handgun in each of our vehicles. Not overly concerned.
Actually, Austin, as much as we hate admitting it’s part of TX, is on the list of protests. City Hall is the meeting place.
I do wonder if these events turn into riots, can various LEO organizations use RICO statutes to go after the entities paying for the adds? Maybe even use the ad placements as evidence of orchestrated violence to label them as terrorists?
Where did you see that? I have been trying to find that.
Has there ever been a riot in Texas?
Not a civil rights riot or some kind of social justice riot, but Dallas Police Dept. lost a few police during BLM "protest"
Moose-Knuckle
11-03-17, 01:27
Actually, Austin, as much as we hate admitting it’s part of TX, is on the list of protests. City Hall is the meeting place.
I do wonder if these events turn into riots, can various LEO organizations use RICO statutes to go after the entities paying for the adds? Maybe even use the ad placements as evidence of orchestrated violence to label them as terrorists?
I've heard of the RGA (Red Guards Austin) an Antifa chapter down that way but did not see Texas on the list linked. Makes since they will answer their comrades call to take to the streets on 04 November.
Moose-Knuckle
11-03-17, 02:12
Has there ever been a riot in Texas?
Quite a few actually . . .
One of the famed Texas Ranger sayings is One Riot, One Ranger. This stemmed from a prize fight planned in Dallas where the legendary Captain W. J. McDonald got off the train and the visibly shaken mayor asked "Where are the others?!".
Until the last half of the nineteenth century the sparseness of the population in Texas prevented riots like those in eastern cities. Because local records were similarly sparse and the state was not involved in most local incidents, information on riots that have taken place in Texas is incomplete. Only a few incidents occurred that could be termed riots before the Civil War. Though some of these would be considered riots now, these disturbances were a common experience on the frontier and were viewed more lightly. The occurrence of cowboys "taking a town," for example, which often involved some destruction of property, was usually considered an innocent diversion. Some other incidents that were considered riots by legally constituted authorities are now regarded in another light. Such was the affair in 1832 in which a group of citizens armed themselves to free William B. Travis, Patrick C. Jack, and Edwin Wallerqv, who had been imprisoned at Fort Anahuac by Col. John Davis Bradburn (see ANAHUAC DISTURBANCES). The nearest equivalent of a riot in the early days of Texas was the feud. The first and largest of these, the Regulator-Moderator War, occurred along the Sabine River between 1839 and 1844. Smaller feuds were common, especially toward the western frontier. Mob violence at times broke into rioting, generally with the object of lynching slaves or abolitionists. Most lynching, however, occurred not as the result of rioting, but as the work of vigilance committees that operated secretly.
The greatest number of riots in Texas occurred between the beginning of the Civil War and the end of the nineteenth century. Though numerous factors accounted for the sudden increase, in general the unrest stemmed from the social and economic uncertainties of the times and the sense of dispossession that dominated most segments of society. Almost invariably, racial strife was involved. Between July and December 1870, 124 arrests were made by the State Police alone for rioting. A riot in Limestone County in 1871 was typical of those that occurred during this period. When a black policeman killed a white man in Groesbeck, the animosity between African Americans and whites erupted into mob violence. Fearing threats that blacks were going to burn the town, whites throughout the county armed themselves and gathered at Groesbeck. Governor Edmund Jackson Davis declared martial law and sent in state troops; he thus averted a violent breakdown of law. In 1872 a similar riot occurred at Springfield. Often state troops were required to restore order, and members of the mobs were usually left unpunished even when they were identified. In 1877 at El Paso one of the most destructive riots in the state occurred; property damage was estimated to cost $12,000 to $31,000. The incident, the Salt War of San Elizario, was caused by a dispute over rights to use salt ponds that had for years been used by people on both sides of the border free of charge and were regarded by those people as part of the public domain. After Charles H. Howard filed a claim for the land on which the salt deposits were located, Louis Cardis encouraged Mexicans and Mexican Americans to defy the claim. Howard shot Cardis and took refuge with state troops at San Elizario, where a mob of 500 besieged them for four days. When Howard gave himself up, he was killed, and the mob overran the town. In the wake of the violence, five men were found dead and much property was destroyed. The military post at El Paso was regarrisoned, but no measures were taken against the members of the mob, many of whom were Mexican nationals.
In the 1880s and 1890s racial incidents continued to be the major cause of riots, although economic conditions also became a factor. A riot of black troops occurred at Fort Concho in 1881. About fifty blacks broke open an arms rack and invaded the town of San Angelo, where they destroyed property and wounded a man. The violence stemmed from the killing of a black trooper and subsided after Texas Rangersqv were sent to the area. The Rio Grande City Riot of 1888 occurred after the arrest and subsequent killing of a Mexican-American resident. In the Beeville Riot of 1894 violence broke out between Mexicans and blacks due to increased Mexican immigration and a shortage of jobs. In 1897 state troops were called out four times to protect prisoners from mobs; in one instance they failed to protect their charge from lynching. State troops were called out in 1898 to keep peace at Houston during a streetcar strike and at Galveston during a wharf strike; on two other occasions they were called upon to protect prisoners from mobs. In 1899 the Laredo Smallpox Riot was precipitated among Mexican-American residents who protested being moved from their homes under quarantine. They gathered in hundreds and fired several shots in an encounter with city officials. Rangers were sent in to subdue the mob before any serious damage was done. That same year troops of the Texas Volunteer Guard (see TEXAS NATIONAL GUARD) were sent to Orange to suppress a mob organized to drive blacks out of Orange County.
The most common cause of riots in the first half of the twentieth century was public outrage toward prisoners. Mob threats of violence to prisoners necessitated the use of state troops on four occasions in 1900. In 1901 three lynchings by mobs took place despite the calling of state troops; in two instances the troops suppressed the mobs. At Brenham rioting broke out over the employment of a black brakeman by a railway; it was suppressed after two days. In 1902 mob violence brought on the use of state troops three times. In one instance the mob hanged a prisoner before the troops' arrival. Troops were called out three times on this account in 1903, twice in 1904, three times in 1905, and once in 1906. The Brownsville Raidqv (1906) precipitated a serious race riot involving black soldiers. Troops were needed elsewhere in 1907 and 1910; in the latter year rioting at Slocum resulted in the killing of eight blacks. Other mob actions in the first decade of the century resulted from strikes at Houston in 1904 and racial tension at Ragley the same year. A riot also took place in Fort Worth in May of 1913. The Houston Riot of 1917 was started by about 150 black troops from Camp Logan, a temporary training center near the city. The riot, touched off by the arrest of a black woman, was the culmination of general uneasiness and hostility following the establishment of the camp. It resulted in the deaths of seventeen people, mostly whites; the anger of an aroused white population necessitated martial law for four days. The Longview Race Riot of 1919 also resulted in the proclamation of martial law. A strike at Galveston in 1920 produced lawlessness that required the help of the Texas National Guard. Mexia was declared in a state of anarchy because of a riot and was placed under martial law from January to March 1922. The Sherman Riot of 1930 stemmed from the arrest of a black who had assaulted a white woman; rangers were called to protect the prisoner, but a mob set fire to the courthouse and virtually seized control of the town. When troops of the Texas National Guard arrived, they were attacked by the mob, and before martial law restored order, a number of buildings were destroyed. Enforcement of oil-conservation laws in the 1930s also necessitated the use of the National Guard to suppress mob lawlessness.
The guard was also called in September 1937 to suppress mob violence at Marshall and again to quell the Beaumont Riot of 1943. In Beaumont a white mob, outraged at the assault of a white woman by a black, terrorized the black section of town. Two died and 100 homes were destroyed. In 1955 the National Guard was used to control a riot at Rusk State Hospital. In May 1967 a riot that occurred among black students at Texas Southern University in Houston resulted in the death of one policeman and the wounding of two students and two police officers. Though the immediate cause of the riot was the arrest of a student, the night-long incident was related to general racial tension.
https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/jcr02
There is another version of the TSU race riot of 1967 in Houston which claimed the life of one LEO that it was started because a rumor spread that a White police officer shot and killed a Black boy. Turns out a White boy was shot by another White child by accident and the police had nothing to do with it. Then in 1978 there was the Moody Park riot in Houston where a Hispanic Vietnam veteran died after being beaten by HPD officers.
Still think it's going to be a big "nothing-burger" (although I despise that term personally).
If I'm wrong I will readily admit it. Plan on shooting here at home Saturday anyway, and if my wife and I do go somewhere there is always a handgun in each of our vehicles. Not overly concerned.
I'm basically of the opinion that this whole thing was BS from the get go, but I'm also kinda thinking that all the buzz November 4th has gotten since the story broke is actually now going to make it into sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy. Probably not "Civil War 2", but a bunch of mostly independent instances of unorganized mobs of lefties behaving badly.
If anyone wants to join the cause to end fascism and play in the streets, here's your chance........https://refusefascism.org/
I guess in a day we'll find out what's what.
For all the false flag/conspiracy/deep state theory fans, the Army will be conducting a communications exercise starting on Nov. 4, the same time this protest thing is planned.
https://www.army.mil/article/196288/quarterly_communication_exercise_uses_simulated_scenario_to_test_interoperability_of_army_mars
platoonDaddy
11-03-17, 07:44
more shit from the left
NYT Full-Page Ad Calls For Antifa Revolution
http://www.oann.com/nyt-full-page-ad-calls-for-antifa-revolution/
more shit from the left
NYT Full-Page Ad Calls For Antifa Revolution
http://www.oann.com/nyt-full-page-ad-calls-for-antifa-revolution/NYT nationwide full page ad costs about $150k. Either NYT donated it or follow the money.
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For all the false flag/conspiracy/deep state theory fans, the Army will be conducting a communications exercise starting on Nov. 4, the same time this protest thing is planned.
https://www.army.mil/article/196288/quarterly_communication_exercise_uses_simulated_scenario_to_test_interoperability_of_army_mars
There's no coincidence, pure happenstance.
I would be really concerned however if there was a FEMA drill nearby.
LMT Shooter
11-03-17, 08:15
more shit from the left
NYT Full-Page Ad Calls For Antifa Revolution
http://www.oann.com/nyt-full-page-ad-calls-for-antifa-revolution/
The link doesn't work for me.
platoonDaddy
11-03-17, 08:38
The link doesn't work for me.
OH WOW Link is pulled, wonder if someone hacked their web site? !!!!!!!!! Interesting
The link I provided in post 113 is taken off the NYT ad.
Moose-Knuckle
11-03-17, 10:46
For all the false flag/conspiracy/deep state theory fans, the Army will be conducting a communications exercise starting on Nov. 4, the same time this protest thing is planned.
https://www.army.mil/article/196288/quarterly_communication_exercise_uses_simulated_scenario_to_test_interoperability_of_army_mars
Robert had a thread on this with some interesting articles linked.
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?201299-CME-(coronal-mass-ejection)Event-Comms-Testing-Across-the-Nation-Any-Intel-on-This
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-03-17, 11:54
more shit from the left
NYT Full-Page Ad Calls For Antifa Revolution
http://www.oann.com/nyt-full-page-ad-calls-for-antifa-revolution/
So does anyone have an actual NYT hard copy to confirm this? Otherwise this is some Russian level people up BS.
platoonDaddy
11-03-17, 12:09
So does anyone have an actual NYT hard copy to confirm this? Otherwise this is some Russian level people up BS.
I am still confused why OAN removed the link and any reference. Very strange. More BS????? Not even positive the following is BS
scroll to .45
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dbMb70VIsc
Moose-Knuckle
11-03-17, 12:38
I'm surprised that the NYT doesn't have a diversity program witch gives financial assistance to place advertisements for martyrdom.
I'm surprised that the NYT doesn't have a diversity program witch gives financial assistance to place advertisements for martyrdom.They probably have that queued up already.
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FromMyColdDeadHand
11-03-17, 13:39
So I looked at stuff to see if this is a real, and it seems that the org that is sponsoring it is real. How much pull to get people into the streets is a big question. The problem I have is that they are calling it non-violent, but we know the only time that there is violence is when ANTIFA shows up. The other is that they call for the "REMOVAL" of the "REGIME". Now that is really a loaded and broad term. The interview with some leader dude has him saying 25A removal, but in all the literature, sites and posters they put out there, none of it mentions a constitutional remedy, just the removal. Oh, and by the way they won't accept any other facists to replace them. Hell, that might rule out Pelosi.
So you have groups with a history of organized violence that are advocating throwing out elected leaders. Now they do seem to think that this is a long-ball process with building pressure. Their model is South Korea and the removal of their president.
Meh, let them go full Iowa. Idiots out walking around.
So I looked at stuff to see if this is a real, and it seems that the org that is sponsoring it is real. How much pull to get people into the streets is a big question. The problem I have is that they are calling it non-violent, but we know the only time that there is violence is when ANTIFA shows up.
Let's guess based on previous riots in the past. Yes I call it "riot" because that's what they want, and I see you probably agree with that comment based on your second sentence. Pick any city, Denver, Atlanta, wherever. A nice number between 50 to 100, probably more, maybe less. 50 to 100 morons can easily block traffic (remember two summers ago when they do their sit in in the middle of major intersections, interstates, etc.). Out of those number, let's say a handful to a dozen started to get agitated/excited/stupid and start to vandalize street signs, use such street signs to break Starbuck's storefront, etc. Or some hillbilly starts to bad mouth them and a shouting match starts. Fists will start flying and somebody is going to get stomped on. Any amount of small scale riots similar to the BLM events, Michael Brown riots, Baltimore could spring up.
Let's hope there are enough sane people that way stay away from these anarchists, enough police response to curb any potential violence or maybe a storm/tornado/hurricane around to keep them home. Too early for a blizzard :)
BoringGuy45
11-03-17, 14:29
So I looked at stuff to see if this is a real, and it seems that the org that is sponsoring it is real. How much pull to get people into the streets is a big question. The problem I have is that they are calling it non-violent, but we know the only time that there is violence is when ANTIFA shows up.
The other thing is that they don't understand how civil disobedience works. The point of civil disobedience to openly break an unjust law, be arrested, go quietly, and face the consequences in order to send the message that you are a good citizen who respects law and order, but you cannot, in good conscience, obey this law. They think that it means to flood the streets, shut down normal life and routine, and stay there until their demands are met. That's not civil disobedience; that's a form of hostage taking. They also don't stay non-violent for long. They think one of the rules of "civil disobedience" is that while they're demonstrating, they can't be touched. And pretty much every time, as soon as they start getting arrested, they start resisting, and the "demonstration" turns into a riot.
These idiots think they are students of Gandhi and MLK Jr. But I guaranfrickintee the only things they ever heard from either of them are from out-of-context quotes from Rage Against the Machine songs.
Let's guess based on previous riots in the past. Yes I call it "riot" because that's what they want, and I see you probably agree with that comment based on your second sentence. Pick any city, Denver, Atlanta, wherever. A nice number between 50 to 100, probably more, maybe less. 50 to 100 morons can easily block traffic (remember two summers ago when they do their sit in in the middle of major intersections, interstates, etc.). Out of those number, let's say a handful to a dozen started to get agitated/excited/stupid and start to vandalize street signs, use such street signs to break Starbuck's storefront, etc. Or some hillbilly starts to bad mouth them and a shouting match starts. Fists will start flying and somebody is going to get stomped on. Any amount of small scale riots similar to the BLM events, Michael Brown riots, Baltimore could spring up.
Let's hope there are enough sane people that way stay away from these anarchists, enough police response to curb any potential violence or maybe a storm/tornado/hurricane around to keep them home. Too early for a blizzard :)
Problem is they will bring it TO you, you don't have to seek it out. Some average Joe driving from point A to point B could easily find himself sitting on an interstate blocked by those assholes.
Man, would I be tempted to hit the gas pedal! :mad:
Diamondback
11-03-17, 15:41
Problem is they will bring it TO you, you don't have to seek it out. Some average Joe driving from point A to point B could easily find himself sitting on an interstate blocked by those assholes.
Man, would I be tempted to hit the gas pedal! :mad:
It's a good thing I'm not in Emergency Management where one of these goes down... Fire up the snow, er, meatplows!
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-03-17, 15:47
It isn’t that I want to run over them because I disagree with them. It isn’t because they inconvenience me. It is solely because I feel threatened and fear for my health and safety of my family. They are the ones that put their lives at risk and demand that I put mine at risk to avoid hurting them. It isn’t that I don’t value their lives, it is just I value my families’ more and my ability to get home to them. I take zero chances with the safety of my family.
Until the threat is eliminated.
On the broader issue, this is the perfect kind of thing that plays into the hands of people trying to rile up our politics. Take something that is true and then just add some gas, amplification and exaggeration. Let it cycle a few times and both sides are primed.
FlyingHunter
11-03-17, 15:50
It isn’t that I want to run over them because I disagree with them. It isn’t because they inconvenience me. It is solely because I feel threatened and fear for my health and safety of my family. They are the ones that put their lives at risk and demand that I put mine at risk to avoid hurting them. It isn’t that I don’t value their lives, it is just I value my families’ more and my ability to get home to them. I take zero chances with the safety of my family.
Until the threat is eliminated.
On the broader issue, this is the perfect kind of thing that plays into the hands of people trying to rile up our politics. Take something that is true and then just add some gas, amplification and exaggeration. Let it cycle a few times and both sides are primed.
Well said. I will be driving thru ATL tomorrow visiting my mom. It's possible they could discover the Anti - Antifa.
Diamondback
11-03-17, 15:55
On my prior, they ALWAYS have the choice to get out of the way... we're not talking Soylent Green run-in-at-speed-and-scoop-up.
Kinda like, if you're dumbass enough to try to stand in front of an IDF bulldozer like that whatshername twit you DESERVE your Darwin Award.
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-03-17, 15:58
Well said. I will be driving thru ATL tomorrow visiting my mom. It's possible they could discover the Anti - Antifa.
Anti-Fa, meet Anti-dote. ;)
FlyingHunter
11-03-17, 16:14
Anti-Fa, meet Anti-dote. ;)
You win the thread!
Problem is they will bring it TO you, you don't have to seek it out. Some average Joe driving from point A to point B could easily find himself sitting on an interstate blocked by those assholes.
Man, would I be tempted to hit the gas pedal! :mad:
I'm teaching a handgun class tomorrow and will have to get on the perimeter interstate to get to my destination. I do have a few alternate routes.
FlyingHunter
11-03-17, 16:42
This helps w finding alternate routes, even if it's straight ahead...
https://www.ranchhand.com/frontbumpers/
On my prior, they ALWAYS have the choice to get out of the way... we're not talking Soylent Green run-in-at-speed-and-scoop-up.
Kinda like, if you're dumbass enough to try to stand in front of an IDF bulldozer like that whatshername twit you DESERVE your Darwin Award.
For members too young to know Soylent Green:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wa4U6TQlNI
when I lived in caribbean sometimes those who you wanted to get rid of just showed up missing :) yeah saw em take his dory out last night maybe he go fishing?
in Hawaii, they would be last seeing opihi hunting on the rocks in some bad place you can rarely get to ! but he decided not to wait for it to be calm the fool
need some of those land trains with a huge roo guard they have in OZ :)
when I lived in caribbean sometimes those who you wanted to get rid of just showed up missing :) yeah saw em take his dory out last night maybe he go fishing?
in Hawaii, they would be last seeing opihi hunting on the rocks in some bad place you can rarely get to ! but he decided not to wait for it to be calm the fool
need some of those land trains with a huge roo guard they have in OZ :)
In the Philippines, extra-judicial and other killings are euphemistically called "salvaging". Commie infiltrators here don't realize just how much protection our Constitution provides us.
I am predicting it will be fairly quiet on my road tomorrow. Maybe just the sound of the occasional blackpowder rifle, considering it is the first day of muzzleloader season. Hopefully the sound of mine.....
It isn’t that I want to run over them because I disagree with them. It isn’t because they inconvenience me. It is solely because I feel threatened and fear for my health and safety of my family. They are the ones that put their lives at risk and demand that I put mine at risk to avoid hurting them. It isn’t that I don’t value their lives, it is just I value my families’ more and my ability to get home to them. I take zero chances with the safety of my family.
Until the threat is eliminated.
On the broader issue, this is the perfect kind of thing that plays into the hands of people trying to rile up our politics. Take something that is true and then just add some gas, amplification and exaggeration. Let it cycle a few times and both sides are primed.
Yeah, yeah....that's the ticket! ;)
Moose-Knuckle
11-03-17, 18:35
In the Philippines, extra-judicial and other killings are euphemistically called "salvaging". Commie infiltrators here don't realize just how much protection our Constitution provides them.
FIFY. :cool:
Too frequently, I've been asked about IDLH and how that compares to SBHI in circumstances that include interactions with person(s). I don't seem to have a reference to cite?
I embrace my Nazi-ism when the alternative if Antifa.
FIFY. :cool:
Thank you! Yes indeed.
I embrace my Nazi-ism when the alternative if Antifa.
Obviously if you don't agree with Antifa/BLM you are a Nazi AND a racist (are they mutually exclusive?).
The left can FOAD.
A conventional family unit that consist of a father, mother and children living in the same household is now considered "white supremacist" group.
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I couldn't help myself!
OANN had a brief docu piece on antifa earlier tonight. I think worth a watch to get the jist.
http://www.oann.com/one-america-news-network-to-air-america-under-siege-antifa/
MountainRaven
11-04-17, 00:52
I embrace my Nazi-ism when the alternative if Antifa.
You embrace the ideal that the State is all, the individual is nothing, those with mental and physical handicaps - especially genetic ones - are a drain on the state and must be liquidated, that Jews are your racial enemy, that the state must either expand or die, and that traditional morality has no place in determining what is right or wrong, only the success of the state and the Aryan race matter?
You embrace the ideal that the State is all, the individual is nothing, those with mental and physical handicaps - especially genetic ones - are a drain on the state and must be liquidated, that Jews are your racial enemy, that the state must either expand or die, and that traditional morality has no place in determining what is right or wrong, only the success of the state and the Aryan race matter?
I think he was saying that because in todays time, Antifa compares Trump to Hitler and Trumps supporters to Nazi's. Antifa says they cover their face so they can have freedom of speech, yet they demonstrate out of rebellion towards anyone who speaks on subjects not on par with Antifa/Left. Obviously no one wants to be a Nazi, most of our fathers or grand fathers fought the Nazis. But his quote was basically saying Antifa, which is literally pro fascism and socialism, calling the GOP Nazis, he was stating "his Nazi-ism" would be embraced as his in the eyes of Antifa.
Its like in recent, I have personally been subjected to racism for being white and the racism is coming from other whites! It makes no sense to me, talk about the pot calling the kettle white! I'm told I am responsible for white privilege and white America- yes this was said to me by a white woman. She labeled me a white nationalist because I was wearing Corvette t-shirt that said "American Pride" on the back. So I guess in her eyes, I'm a white nationalist!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQIWhqjWhpo
https://media.giphy.com/media/6ZYJYWSYtkbHW/giphy.gif
http://www.cruzine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/027-soldiers-warriors.jpg
And if you think you beat Communists by being a Nazi then not only was the ending of Return of the Jedi lost on you, then you are probably a real dumbass in real life
I think antifa has zero percent to do with fascism and 100% to do with destabilizing the country.
The thing with the far left is that they really don't have any problem with anything that Hitler (or Mussolini for that matter) did, they only (claim to) have a problem with why he did it. The left believes that genocide is a good thing, so long as you're exterminating the right people for the right reasons.
Communism is not a dirty word like fascism or Nazism, despite all of the above being one in the same with different names and superficial differences. To this day, American kids either don't believe that communism was as bad and as false as those who survived it say it was, OR, they believe that those who had it bad deserved it.
QFT.
I keep trying to tell the rest of the Right, I know these people and how they think on a level few since Horowitz can, I grew up among them and they were trying to groom me to BE one of them, and yet most so-called "mainstream conservatives" (read, McCainiac/NeverTrump Kapos like most of RedState and other Conservatism Inc. Orthodoxy) dismiss me as paranoid when they've never BEEN in the belly of the beast in the middle of Seattle.
It's easy to discuss and dismiss at the safe distance of the Deep South or the heartland... but when you've stared this crap in the eye at Bad Breath Range every day of your life you're close enough to see all the warts and everything....
Yeah, I've gotten the same "dick growing out of forehead" look/response when folks that *should* and *claim* to know better are all like "naww it ain't like that/couldn't happen here" and I'm like "you don't know these people like I do...."
The only place you'll see more wilful blindness is the left....
....Exactly what they are... they've been infiltrating since the Wilson Administration, and multiplying generation after generation like a malignant tumor.
Amazing isn't it? Ayers walking around a free man, inspiring others, mentoring a future president. It reflects the apathy and short memory of the American people.
To a point. It also reflects the incomprehensibly stunning level of goodwill evident on the side of the bad ol' Conservatives/Right/etc.- as the memes say "Washington would be shooting by now".
It also reflects to consequences of the "if they ain't bothering me who cares, I'd rather sit on the couch and crack a cold one as long as the buffoonery is safely on TV" mindset all so prevalent around here....
Kind of like all the folks who thought it was a great idea to weather a hurricane in a flood zone, and next morning they're on the roof wondering WTF happened...
That's the other possibility, this may just be desinformatsiya to divert our attention and that of local authorities from where the *real* fireworks are gonna be.
Antifa operates on what's called the Stoplight Model:
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I'm glad I'm not the only one thinking through things like this.
You embrace the ideal that the State is all, the individual is nothing, those with mental and physical handicaps - especially genetic ones - are a drain on the state and must be liquidated, that Jews are your racial enemy, that the state must either expand or die, and that traditional morality has no place in determining what is right or wrong, only the success of the state and the Aryan race matter?
It's like a joke but smaller- go back to page one and read post #5 for context.
See also: "I'll be your huckleberry" and "wish a mother****er would".
_edit, Elephant beat me to it.
Diamondback
11-04-17, 03:44
And technically, the main ideological difference between Nazism and Communism is minor details, like Nazism has means of production privately owned but State controlled while Communism is both State ownership and control. There's a reason the KGB's first picks for cadre to build the East German Staatsicherheitdienst were Nazi SS... postwar there seems to have been a reconciliation between the two major branches of Militant Radical Leftism into the Modern Progressive Movement. I usually can't stand Michael Savage's voice, but he's a bit better in print and his Liberalism is a Mental Disorder hit it out of the park on this one.
You know what the part that really SUCKS about being a historian is? You've seen it all before, you can see multiple trainwrecks and other disasters ahead... and yet nobody will pay attention to you to put on the brakes and stop the train, or worse yet they WANT the wreck and all you can do is hold on, brace for impact and watch in abject terror...
platoonDaddy
11-04-17, 07:17
Will the so-called "Antifa apocalypse" come with a bang or a whimper?
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/03/antifa-apocalypse-anarchist-groups-plan-to-overthrow-trump-regime-starts-saturday.html
You embrace the ideal that the State is all, the individual is nothing, those with mental and physical handicaps - especially genetic ones - are a drain on the state and must be liquidated, that Jews are your racial enemy, that the state must either expand or die, and that traditional morality has no place in determining what is right or wrong, only the success of the state and the Aryan race matter?
You need to recalibrate your sarcasm meter.
And if you think you beat Communists by being a Nazi then not only was the ending of Return of the Jedi lost on you, then you are probably a real dumbass in real life
Uh, I don't think anyone here was seriously supporting or suggesting that being a Nazi was the answer to anything. I saw sarcasm, that's all.
I think he was saying that because in todays time, Antifa compares Trump to Hitler and Trumps supporters to Nazi's. Antifa says they cover their face so they can have freedom of speech, yet they demonstrate out of rebellion towards anyone who speaks on subjects not on par with Antifa/Left. Obviously no one wants to be a Nazi, most of our fathers or grand fathers fought the Nazis. But his quote was basically saying Antifa, which is literally pro fascism and socialism, calling the GOP Nazis, he was stating "his Nazi-ism" would be embraced as his in the eyes of Antifa.
Its like in recent, I have personally been subjected to racism for being white and the racism is coming from other whites! It makes no sense to me, talk about the pot calling the kettle white! I'm told I am responsible for white privilege and white America- yes this was said to me by a white woman. She labeled me a white nationalist because I was wearing Corvette t-shirt that said "American Pride" on the back. So I guess in her eyes, I'm a white nationalist!!
Exactly. At least most of you got it.
Are they still playing Call Of Duty to train up for today?
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-04-17, 09:17
I’m so excited!!!
It’s :
4th of Chrismageddon!
A blend of the fireworks of the 4th of July, the anticipation of Christmas, and the end of the world in Armageddon.
I’m not expecting much. I’m hoping people on the left don’t take this too seriously.
Can we get a NYT full page article that says everyone that goes to work next Wednesday supports Trump? This whole thing borders on silly.
I always say the left are loones and come up with this insanity
at least for this case we should say OK we decided to be like the lovely cuba you admire :)
so all you folks are going camping free lodging !!!!! there will be free food and things to do LOTS of things to do and some that happen !
Are they still playing Call Of Duty to train up for today?
actually, the new COD WWII just came out yesterday so reckon half of them will be playing as you say getting ready !!! and hey they get to fight nazis for real this time :) hahahahahah
I've been watching the news off and on since about 7:30 am here in SoCal, and not hearing anything. Is the revolution getting a late start? The comrades slacking off or something? Anything going on in the rest of country?
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-04-17, 10:51
I've been watching the news off and on since about 7:30 am here in SoCal, and not hearing anything. Is the revolution getting a late start? The comrades slacking off or something? Anything going on in the rest of country?
Dude, they are sleeping in after a full week of not working. ��
I awoke this morning with a somewhat unethical, apathetic desire to see things burning in the streets - riots at every corner.
I am very disappointed.
Apparently things start late. Grabbed this from Tumblr.
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Apparently things start late. Grabbed this from Tumblr.
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Takes some time for the busses to get there.
Pot heads don't do early AM ops.
OK well, its the 4th of November The temperature is 68 degrees, the birds are chirping and all is quiet on the home front. I feel stupid for even starting this thread. Checked local news, FOX news, MSNBC, CBS, CSNBC, CNN, ABC, CSPAN, Yahoo!, MSN, VOX, checked Twitter for the hashtag #refusefacism, checked Facebook for post related to November 4th and NOTHING!!!!! Nada!!!!! zilch!!!! Somewhat relieved but also somewhat disappointed. But like someone said, its only 1:00 pm central time, I bet there moms haven't woken them up yet.
Just cleared a call, nothing yet in Atlanta.
#NothingBurger
OK well, its the 4th of November The temperature is 68 degrees, the birds are chirping and all is quiet on the home front. I feel stupid for even starting this thread. Checked local news, FOX news, MSNBC, CBS, CSNBC, CNN, ABC, CSPAN, Yahoo!, MSN, VOX, checked Twitter for the hashtag #refusefacism, checked Facebook for post related to November 4th and NOTHING!!!!! Nada!!!!! zilch!!!! Somewhat relieved but also somewhat disappointed. But like someone said, its only 1:00 pm central time, I bet there moms haven't woken them up yet.
I think they all need to go to Zimbabwe to protest this fascism.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/11/04/american-woman-25-jailed-for-calling-93-year-old-african-dictator-sick-man-faces-20-years-in-prison.html.
Dude, they are sleeping in after a full week of not working. ��
Work is for white fascist Nazis and other ne'er do wells.
OK well, its the 4th of November The temperature is 68 degrees, the birds are chirping and all is quiet on the home front. I feel stupid for even starting this thread. Checked local news, FOX news, MSNBC, CBS, CSNBC, CNN, ABC, CSPAN, Yahoo!, MSN, VOX, checked Twitter for the hashtag #refusefacism, checked Facebook for post related to November 4th and NOTHING!!!!! Nada!!!!! zilch!!!! Somewhat relieved but also somewhat disappointed. But like someone said, its only 1:00 pm central time, I bet there moms haven't woken them up yet.
Maybe the 4th was a fake out, the real business starts at a secret time and date.
Maybe the 4th was a fake out, the real business starts at a secret time and date.
Perhaps the 5th of November. The Gunpowder Treason and plot??
platoonDaddy
11-04-17, 16:07
noise only.
Live feed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v522Xoxeqc&feature=youtu.be
The zeal displayed is underwhelming.
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-04-17, 16:40
noise only.
Live feed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v522Xoxeqc&feature=youtu.be
Short Bus.
I read somewhere LA had a gathering starting.
I didn't have a reason to travel to downtown STL today by Market and 12th around noon, so I didn't. I did text someone I knew who was there working close by, the reply was simply "nothing" when I asked if anything was happening there.
5.56 Bonded SP
11-04-17, 18:18
I made sure I had a loadout ready for today.
Not shit has happened in my area.
Time to crack a cold one.
Didn't go inside the perimeter near where the anarchists were going to be. The most problem I had was with the DOT doing road constructions and the pop up thunderstorm. Back home from training a fairly new shooter and relaxing. A good day.
Diamondback
11-04-17, 19:45
I'm so disappointed in the Progfrogs in SEA-PDX... all ribbit and no hop. Scurry back to your ponds in your mommies' basements now, little tadpoles... and remember this next time you get an urge to try and croak with the big frogs.
As planned I zeroed my new 300BLK pistol today, cleaned her up real good, went over to a buddy's, even road-tripped into Nashville this evening for a pizza. Zip zilch nada.
I'm glad there wasn't stupidity abounding. I'm realistic enough not to hope for shit to happen, but also realistic enough to be prepared if it does. ;)
“Suppose they gave a war and nobody came.”
Next date to look at is Nov. 8, the anniversary of Trump's victory.
platoonDaddy
11-04-17, 20:28
dang, the distraction in the streets of the USA, was to confuse our government and screen the purge, in Saudi Arabia
In a shocking development, Saudi press Al Mayadeen reported late on Saturday that prominent billionaire, member of the royal Saudi family, and one of the biggest shareholders of Citi, News Corp. and Twitter - not to mention frequent CNBC guest - Al-Waleed bin Talal, along with ten senior princes, and some 38 ministers, has been arrested for corruption and money laundering charges on orders from the new anti-corruption committee headed by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, while Royal princes’ private planes have been grounded.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-11-04/shocking-purge-saudi-king-arrests-billionaire-prince-bin-talal-others-anti-money-lau
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-04-17, 20:49
Good. Maybe we can get past the meaningless nazi and collectivist fringes being the face of political discourse. We are still politically more highly fractured and further split than we have been in generations, but hopefully some kind of rationale behavior is coming to our politics.
Next date to look at is Nov. 8, the anniversary of Trump's victory.
Tomorrow is Guy Flawks day.........unless they would get trigger appropriating English culture.
I forgot all about it today...lol Just had the usual pistol and was downtown all day for a taekwondo tournament. Wife even was out late with my daughter at a school thing. I might have been more concerned if I would have remembered something was supposed to happen... Oh well, didn't expect anything crazy around here anyway.
I was poking around some of the links and looked at rf’s Instagram, there were pictures from their NYC ‘protest’ and this was in the comments:
juniper_olives_I. Love. This. Wish I could join
refusefascism@juniper_olives_ Join Us!!
juniper_olives_@refusefascism can't :( not near me and too young for my parents to let me go
MountainRaven
11-04-17, 22:11
Stupid question:
Do we know that RefuseFascism isn't maskirovka?
I'm too old to fret over college kids
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-04-17, 23:51
Stupid question:
Do we know that RefuseFascism isn't maskirovka?
Who knows. You can split it into two parts. One is the RF itself the other is the reaction from the right. RF seemed to be set up to tweak people on the right because it called for the ‘removal’ of Trump/Pence. That screams an overthrow of the govt since it never mentioned impeachment and Pence wouldn’t be subject to the 25A. Add in that other ‘nazis’ wouldn’t be ‘acceptable’. Leftists usually just complain, their protests are usually devoid of end games or real world solutions. That is why this one seems off, or at least different.
Considering Antifa’s predilection to violence and their specific goal this time and the past examples of millions of people (though a few percent of the population) coming out it doesn’t take much to get to a bad situation. Throw in some amplification from a few websites.
Apparently things start late. Grabbed this from Tumblr.
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Interesting- all liberal strongpoints.... same as most recent riots and demos....
I wonder if they pick those places because they feel safe enough to get stupid there, or they literally don't care if they shit where they eat... :confused:
OK well, its the 4th of November The temperature is 68 degrees, the birds are chirping and all is quiet on the home front. I feel stupid for even starting this thread. Checked local news, FOX news, MSNBC, CBS, CSNBC, CNN, ABC, CSPAN, Yahoo!, MSN, VOX, checked Twitter for the hashtag #refusefacism, checked Facebook for post related to November 4th and NOTHING!!!!! Nada!!!!! zilch!!!! Somewhat relieved but also somewhat disappointed. But like someone said, its only 1:00 pm central time, I bet there moms haven't woken them up yet.
I'm pretty sure everyone does a little right now. Doesn't mean that's all yet, but still.... It's gonna be annoying to have to unload all these mags by hand if nothing happens by the 8th or so.... :laugh: (for any n'er-do-wells dropping by on this wonderfully open forum, that was a joke....)
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/224641/1ysght-352658.JPG
Am I sick in the head if I also spent an inordinate amount of time trying to re-write the "12 days of christmas" to fit "a million supersoldiers beheading" in?
I just can't get the sheer hilarity of that line out of my head...
Well here's something to help ease the pain-
The Arfcom thread is only 9 pages long....
AND it's funnier... quote of the week:
Do they not realize that this is basically our mating call???
:laugh:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/ANTIFA-Leader-November-4th-millions-of-antifa-supersoldiers-will-behead-all-white-parents/5-2047172/?page=1
Tomorrow is Guy Flawks day.........unless they would get trigger appropriating English culture.
Die fascist! Only whites can be guilty of culture appropriation! It's not "appropriation" if it's *of* white culture, it's merely "culture redistribution"... :p
Stupid question:
Do we know that RefuseFascism isn't maskirovka?
Maybe the 4th was a fake out, the real business starts at a secret time and date.
As a now dead wise asshole once said....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9L4bRXL94Ws
Moose-Knuckle
11-05-17, 01:23
A conventional family unit that consist of a father, mother and children living in the same household is now considered "white supremacist" group.
Coudenhove-Kalergi plan and Cultural Marxism in the flesh . . .
Having 'white nuclear family' promotes white supremacy, says New York professor, report says
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4523/26403281579_240411dde4_z.jpg
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/10/31/having-white-nuclear-family-promotes-white-supremacy-says-new-york-professor-report-says.html
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4472/26403305939_ca1b5a6f2a_b.jpg
Well well ... the anarchists did show up in several cities ... they said "dozens":
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/dozens-gather-for-anti-trump-protest-in-atlanta/639533160
Well well ... the anarchists did show up in several cities ... they said "dozens":
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/dozens-gather-for-anti-trump-protest-in-atlanta/639533160
Oh, the horror. :rolleyes:
Well, we can be thankful that nothing really happen. No violence is a good day. And nobody really listened to them. Maybe they've lost their mojo.
Well well ... the anarchists did show up in several cities ... they said "dozens":
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/dozens-gather-for-anti-trump-protest-in-atlanta/639533160Man, they were really taking a risk showing up at little Five Points!!! Oh wait... Nevermind.
May have to go by the LFP Zestos and get a foot long chili dog. And a peach milk shake, just out of principle.
I had to traverse metro/downtown Atlanta a couple of times yesterday, had wondered what I'd run across. Traffic... That's all. I think normal Atlanta interstate traffic is far more hazardous than ANTIFA will ever be
. Traffic... That's all. I think normal Atlanta interstate traffic is far more hazardous than ANTIFA will ever be
Like I said in my earlier post from yesterday, there were more delays due to DOT constructions on 285 and the pop up thunderstorm. Everybody on 285 slowed down to 20 mph when it rained ! wtf???
Well well ... the anarchists did show up in several cities ... they said "dozens":
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/dozens-gather-for-anti-trump-protest-in-atlanta/639533160
“I’m very against and very afraid that our country is turning to a fascist society,” protester Susan Riea said.
“I was active in the '60s and I’m not going to let it go now,” Riea said.
We've met the enemy and she is.. grandma? (or our mom for the older members)
5.56 Bonded SP
11-05-17, 13:47
Looks like I have about 1000$ of credit fraud charged to my debit account yesterday. Very strange considering I Never use that card.
Looks like I have about 1000$ of credit fraud charged to my debit account yesterday. Very strange considering I Never use that card.
Is this a cover story for your Black Budget Rifle?
5.56 Bonded SP
11-05-17, 17:12
Is this a cover story for your Black Budget Rifle?
Lol, no my girlfriend 100% supports my black rifle disease, even when I mention money being tight she never says anything negative about the guns or ammo. I'm probably going to have to change that tittle from gf to wife soon :cool:
. I'm not too worried about it, because I know my bank will fix it all during business hours this week.
I got notified of fraudulent charges this morning, at least 1000$ worth of fraudulent charges were ran up around 11 yesterday, possibly even more.
Just found it ironic that it happened on "antifa civil war day".
titsonritz
11-06-17, 14:50
So...the world didn't end again?
Just found it ironic that it happened on "antifa civil war day".
Someone's got to fund the revolution...
Antifa is DONE. They couldn't even muster enough people to change a light bulb. While I'm glad it didn't happen, I have to admit part of me hoped they'd start something...which would reveal them for what they really are. And then it would solve itself.
MountainRaven
11-08-17, 17:29
Antifa is DONE. They couldn't even muster enough people to change a light bulb. While I'm glad it didn't happen, I have to admit part of me hoped they'd start something...which would reveal them for what they really are. And then it would solve itself.
I'm hearing that Antifa wasn't involved in any way.
So, again, how do we know that this isn't some maskirovka? Obviously one that failed.
Moose-Knuckle
11-08-17, 18:14
Has it been ruled out that the shooter in the TX church massacre was affiliated with antifa?
I know there was some reports going out after it happened that he was but I have not seen anything concrete. It appears his social media accounts have been taken down.
Interesting this POS chose the same weekend of scheduled anarchy and the anniversary of the Ft. Hood shooting.
Lol, no my girlfriend 100% supports my black rifle disease, even when I mention money being tight she never says anything negative about the guns or ammo. I'm probably going to have to change that tittle from gf to wife soon :cool:
. I'm not too worried about it, because I know my bank will fix it all during business hours this week.
I got notified of fraudulent charges this morning, at least 1000$ worth of fraudulent charges were ran up around 11 yesterday, possibly even more.
Just found it ironic that it happened on "antifa civil war day".
Speaking from experience, when you find that woman, marry her.
She doesn't do much shooting, but she never has an issue with my habit... I mean Hobby.
MountainRaven
11-09-17, 11:36
Has it been ruled out that the shooter in the TX church massacre was affiliated with antifa?
I know there was some reports going out after it happened that he was but I have not seen anything concrete. It appears his social media accounts have been taken down.
Interesting this POS chose the same weekend of scheduled anarchy and the anniversary of the Ft. Hood shooting.
I believe I've read that the current running theory is that the guy was posting stuff about what a bastard God is and how stupid people are who believe and that the church he targeted was frequented by his ex-wife and kids and/or his ex-mother-in-law.
Moose-Knuckle
11-10-17, 02:49
I believe I've read that the current running theory is that the guy was posting stuff about what a bastard God is and how stupid people are who believe and that the church he targeted was frequented by his ex-wife and kids and/or his ex-mother-in-law.
Same I'm reading, family dispute and a militant atheist.
Maybe this should have its own thread? Haven’t heard from antifa in a while, apparently they are planning to protest the StupidBowl.
http://www.politicalnewsalert.com/2018/02/02/alert-antifa-black-lives-matter-issue-warning-america-plotting-hit-super-bowl/
Maybe this should have its own thread? Haven’t heard from antifa in a while, apparently they are planning to protest the StupidBowl.
http://www.politicalnewsalert.com/2018/02/02/alert-antifa-black-lives-matter-issue-warning-america-plotting-hit-super-bowl/
hahahaah good hope they totally wreck destroy and cause massive mayhem
anyone who suports nfl these days needs a head exam if they are pro US
the left eating its own is great :) IF it happens
Moose-Knuckle
02-02-18, 17:02
Maybe this should have its own thread? Haven’t heard from antifa in a while, apparently they are planning to protest the StupidBowl.
http://www.politicalnewsalert.com/2018/02/02/alert-antifa-black-lives-matter-issue-warning-america-plotting-hit-super-bowl/
So the black bloc are protesting the knee takers?
Victims protesting victims = win-win.
It's like when #BLM crashes LGBTQ parades. :lol:
I read somewhere there was some blocking of pedestrians/buses/ or a shuttle train. Other than that #nothingburger.
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