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Will the 55X upper recievers coming in have th pic railed recievers?
Will the 55X upper recievers coming in have th pic railed recievers?
The 553s are now imported to order by JDI. Dave will email you an order sheet. You can choose from:
1. Rail or diopter receiver
2. Short or Long barrel
3. 1:10 (553-1) or 1:7 (553-2) twist
4. Gray or black finish
5. Aluminum or steel lower
6. Black or green furniture
For $3250 shipped to your dealer.
.......I only need one kidney for a railed LB.
SG 55xs are AKs for people who hate AKs and the riff raff who buy them.
But seriously these are good guns
.......I only need one kidney for a railed LB.
SG 55xs are AKs for people who hate AKs and the riff raff who buy them.
But seriously these are good guns
I really need to buy a rail model 553-2 LB with gray finish, steel lower, and green furniture.
RetroRevolver77
11-24-17, 17:50
The 553s are now imported to order by JDI. Dave will email you an order sheet. You can choose from:
1. Rail or diopter receiver
2. Short or Long barrel
3. 1:10 (553-1) or 1:7 (553-2) twist
4. Gray or black finish
5. Aluminum or steel lower
6. Black or green furniture
For $3250 shipped to your dealer.
Why don't they put this info on their website? I can't find any pictures of the rifles they import anywhere.
Why don't they put this info on their website? I can't find any pictures of the rifles they import anywhere.
FB page has the most info. I suggest you contact Dave if you want to know what you can order.
How would you rate these 553 rifles as compared to modern 5.56 rifles in an SBR format? I am looking for an SBR that I can suppress that is reliable, accurate and well made.
I really need to buy a rail model 553-2 LB with gray finish, steel lower, and green furniture.
:)
Sounds good.
Wow, those Sigs look beautiful. If you were looking for a quality made rifle that is accurate and reliable that can be easily suppressed is there a better option right now for an SBR than this Sig 553. I am thinking the R version in 7.62x39 with a suppressor would be a nice weapon. Your thoughts?
Wow, those Sigs look beautiful. If you were looking for a quality made rifle that is accurate and reliable that can be easily suppressed is there a better option right now for an SBR than this Sig 553. I am thinking the R version in 7.62x39 with a suppressor would be a nice weapon. Your thoughts?
The SAN 7.62x39 is a bargain. Remember it uses off the shelf metal magazines. Kewl
The SAN 7.62x39 is a bargain. Remember it uses off the shelf metal magazines. Kewl
And Magpul AK mags....3 922(r) parts.
The only non-ar SBR candidates that truly compete with the sig are the bren 805 and the b&t apc 223 and perhaps the galil ace or other ak variant. How would you rank them? Would it be fair to consider the sig 553 the pinnacle or would you chose something else. Considering the money I would spend I want to make a good choice as I am looking for a quality sbr I can suppress.
With the 4 position gas valve they are ideal suppressor platforms. You will never find a more well made rifle. They are a little heavy and they don’t lend themselves to mounting gadgets.
Owning one makes it hard to get interested in ar15s. I only wish I could afford more.
Is it possible to custom order a 551 with rail?
Will there be any 751 longer barrel options?
Please tell me the 553R being brough in, eventually, is the 12" and not the 9" barrel?
Is it possible to custom order a 551 with rail?
Will there be any 751 longer barrel options?
Please tell me the 553R being brough in, eventually, is the 12" and not the 9" barrel?
The 7.62x39 performs well with a short barrel.
Just a 553 sbr
Tell me about your experience with it so far as far as accuracy and reliability. Thanks.
Accuracy is kind of hard to judge with an aimpoint and various bulk ammo. I’d say right now 2 Moa. There’s a lot of shooter involved there too. Also I put a surefire legacy bird cage on it Andi don’t think that helped anything was probably closer to 1.5 moa before.
Reliability wise I have about 3.5 k through it the first two mags of wolf gold wouldn’t lock back the bolt on the last round. Then I had a badly corroded Guatemalan round stick in the chamber. Then one time when my buddy was shooting it failed to feed the second round out of a mag. I’m convinced he didn’t have the mag locked in place.
So depending on how you count them 0 to 4 malfunctions in 3.5 k of various ammo
So
Most of that with a can btw
553s are typically 1moa at 100 yds with match ammo. Next range outing I will see about using a variable optic and 77gr OTM to get some groups.
As for reliability, Swiss 55x are well known for this. The Swiss conducted extensive reliability tests during development of the 550. Granted, much of this had to do with colt weather testing, but dust, mud, etc were included. Search the web and you’ll find detailed reports re: the 550 test protocol. It is impressive.
I have never had a failure in any of my 551s, 552s, or 553. My 16” barrel 551 and LE trade-in 552 get babied and are in the relative safe queen category. My 551 sbr sees infrequent use, mainly because I like my 553 setup so much. My other 552 (actually an early 556 converted to true 552 spec) and 553 are not babied. My 553 is a constant range companion.
553s are typically 1moa at 100 yds with match ammo. Next range outing I will see about using a variable optic and 77gr OTM to get some groups.
As for reliability, Swiss 55x are well known for this. The Swiss conducted extensive reliability tests during development of the 550. Granted, much of this had to do with colt weather testing, but dust, mud, etc were included. Search the web and you’ll find detailed reports re: the 550 test protocol. It is impressive.
I have never had a failure in any of my 551s, 552s, or 553. My 16” barrel 551 and LE trade-in 552 get babied and are in the relative safe queen category. My 551 sbr sees infrequent use, mainly because I like my 553 setup so much. My other 552 (actually an early 556 converted to true 552 spec) and 553 are not babied. My 553 is a constant range companion.
Thanks Josh. Considering you are with B&T it gives you some credibility. I would love to see some longer barreled B&Ts in this country.
Did you guys notice JDI is now using the import marking “SAN imports” instead of JDI firearms👍
That and steel lowers makes these pretty much the best 553s yet
Thanks Josh. Considering you are with B&T it gives you some credibility. I would love to see some longer barreled B&Ts in this country.
I am an unapologetic fully indoctrinated SIG 55x fan. I have been collecting and shooting the Swiss 55x since '02. The 551/552/553 is my favorite legacy rifle series. For some reason the 550 has never appealed to me though; I am just not a big fan of 20" barreled 5.56 (or 7.62) mm rifles. The 551 and 553 are in my opinion the penultimate refinement of the AK. I love shooting the 551 and 553. I *need* to pick up a railed receiver 553-2 LB and railed receiver 551-2 short barrel. Only so many pennies in the penny jar unfortunately.
As for longer barreled B&Ts, I too want to see these...like now. Patience. They are coming eventually. And that's all I can say about that.
Did you guys notice JDI is now using the import marking “SAN imports” instead of JDI firearms��
Well, crap. Now you did it.
As Josh said, the standards on these rifles in terms of accuracy and reliability are well known. They run and run. I caught the 55X bug a couple of years back. I have a Sig 550 SP2, a Sig 553 (pic rail, SBR, B&T rail, 4 position plug) that sports a Steiner 1-4, a Sig 551 pistol (diopter sights, B&T optics rail), a Sig 553R on order (stamp in hand) and a US Sig 551 A1 with swiss furniture, lower, welded on rail and sights... I need to take the US one apart and post of some pics so y'all can tell me what the hell I have. I also cleaned Ratworx out of their 25 dollar Sig 550 mags - all 44 of them.
The Sig 553 with 77 grain Razor Core was easily able to hit a 4 inch sided square of steel at 100 yards. All day long. I will through a high power scope on it next time and see whats what. In my opinion, it makes an excellent "pistol/sbr". Accurate, reliable, tiny and easy to deploy. I said "excellent" and not perfect. The minor bitch I have is the 51T AAC flash suppressor that I use to run my SND6 prevents the recoil assembly from being removed from the gun. Not a huge deal, but still a drag. In general this gun feels like it was designed to be small - it doesn't feel like a large gun that has been shrunk.
The Sig 551 pistol currently has the San Swiss M4 adaptor and an SB tactical brace on it. It is very nearly as good as a stock. I personally love the size and feel of this gun. I have put a sight rail on it (from B&T) and will move my Steiner to it, will add a rail section for a light, and call it good. I suspect that this will be my favorite "high volume" 5.56 gun. It is a perfect size. Its also gorgeous.
High hopes for the 553 R, but we'll see if it ever arrives. It is about 18 months late now. The good news is that it will seem like a free rifle, as I paid for it so long ago. If it works, if its reliable, and if its accurate, this seems like an ideal 150 yard do everything rifle.
Finally the 550 SP2. Yes, it is a huge 5.56, but it better balanced than a Galil AR/ARM. It is simply a gorgeous, accurate, reliable rifle. Has a 2 to 10 scope on it and will shoot 77 grain stuff lights out. I need to do some serious groups with it, but it is easily an MOA gun. It also has a certain cache. Most folks haven't actually seen one so it draws a crowd. It is the only "people" rifle I have that gets babied a bit. The SP2 is the way to go if you are going to pony up the money (about 10 grand). Is it worth se14 Colt 6920s? Probably not. Get one or more of those first.
There are some oddities across the line:
1) the trigger mechanisms are slightly different - even between the recent build 551 and 553.
2) the sling loops that are welded into the receivers are not consistent. Some have them on both sides, some only on one. As a left handed shooter, that is a pain.
3) the flash suppressors are different. The 553 has a removable. My 550 has a military barrel and gas block and will take the bayonet. My new 551 will not take the Gemtech Halo Suppressor. Unlike the old 551's the flash suppressor is slightly different. As its integral to the barrel, that is a shame.
4) The clip together magazines are awesome but make carrying them in web gear a pain.
Overall though, I love this line of rifles. The same way that you can look at a Webley revolver, an Enfield, or an SA80 and go "only the british...", you can handle a Swiss rifle and go "oh, this wasn't made to a price point. This was built by a craftsman".
One of these days this winter, I will take the whole swiss family to the range, run them back to back against ARs, and measure some timed drills and accuracy. It will be interesting to see whether they live up to the hype.
Nice post with lots of good info.
I was happy the 551 SB was offered, with the integrated F.H. Without owning any cans, it is cosmetically more appealing. I also like it from a collectable standpoint - it was originally produced by SIG, in this configuration.
I was happy the 551 SB was offered, with the integrated F.H. Without owning any cans, it is cosmetically more appealing. I also like it from a collectable standpoint - it was originally produced by SIG, in this configuration.
Uh....brother, not owning any cans is not acceptable. Fix this ASAP. :)
you can handle a Swiss rifle and go "oh, this wasn't made to a price point. This was built by a craftsman".
Amen, Preach it. It’s like owning a functional piece of industrial art.
Uh....brother, not owning any cans is not acceptable. Fix this ASAP. :)
Some day soon - perhaps.
I have a trust.
Wish Dave will do that 751 SAPR Leopard print.
Fourteen more swinging Richards and we will get it done :)
RetroRevolver77
12-04-17, 21:41
I prefer SLR 106's as they are true Kalashnikov's in 5.56NATO but I've entertained buying mil-spec SIG 55X series since my experience with the US versions wasn't that good. I think the 55X does offer a more ergonomic approach to the AK design. Either way an AK based rifle is always going to be the most reliable combat arm a person can buy simply because they use a static ejector, a piston, and oversized locking lugs.
7n6
I have been trying to get an answer from Dave at JDI about the 553R. Basically, it does not appear to have a bolt release, however, it does appear to have a bolt catch. I just wanted to confirm if this accurate and how do you actuate the bolt catch if there is no Mag in the rifle. I assume you release the bolt catch with a slight tug on the charging handle like my Bren 805.
KTR03. I’d like to hear more on the changes to the trigger between your rifles
Thanks
KTR03. I’d like to hear more on the changes to the trigger between your rifles
Thanks
I will bust out the camera and start a couple of Sig 55X threads. Gimme a couple of days. What I can tell you is that the structure of the trigger groups themselves are different. Now one is a Swiss military lower without the sear, so I get that this one is different, but the 550, 551, and 553 all have differences. The 553 is the best trigger of the bunch.
Look forward to it. Thanks
I will go to the grave with my 553.
It is pretty awesome.
I wont chump on Sigarms but these are a world away from the 551-A1 or the 556.
Save your pennies. It's worth it.
I will bust out the camera and start a couple of Sig 55X threads. Gimme a couple of days. What I can tell you is that the structure of the trigger groups themselves are different. Now one is a Swiss military lower without the sear, so I get that this one is different, but the 550, 551, and 553 all have differences. The 553 is the best trigger of the bunch.
Strange. I’ve seen close to a dozen Swiss 55x lowers and all of the FCG have been the same. There are obviously differences between the semi and select fire, but comparing semi to semi and select fire to select fire, there is no difference between early and recent.
Any 5.56 B&T silencers becoming available soon in the US? A 553 would be a perfect match with one.
Any 5.56 B&T silencers becoming available soon in the US? A 553 would be a perfect match with one.
They are in the works. But require substantial capital investment with welding, etc. Pistol caliber cans much easier to manufacture. Rifle cans are coming, just be patient.
SG 55xs are AKs for people who hate AKs and the riff raff who buy them.
Riff raff...LMAO 😂😂😂😂😂
Riff raff...LMAO 😂😂😂😂😂
light-hearted ribbing but if you always wanted an AK but just couldnt get into them, 55x is what one seeks
Too funny! I have a SLR106F and a Sig 551A1 which I love and has been totally reliable. So I have AK's covered. Would love to own the real deal but $$$$$$$$$$ Wow! I can always dream.
I have both. The factory built AK's and the Swiss 55x series. Yes, you definitely have some trailer trash AK owners.
Go see JDI Facebook. 550s inbound!
Go see JDI Facebook. 550s inbound!
........I know what I must do.
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