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Good discussion on knives in another thread and it made me wonder about what axe - brand, type, you folks are using. I like the Gransfors Bruk axes but I also like the Hudson Bay pattern type. I was looking to get a Snow and Nealley version of this axe when I went over to Smoky Mountain Knife Works and saw the Council Tools Hudson Bay. I picked up the 2 pound head with 26 inch handle and heavy leather sheath for about 50 bucks. So far I have been enjoying this axe. Being made in the USA is good too!
Fiskars. They are so good that I have several, but the 23.5” size is probably the one that sees most use.
gunnerblue
12-22-17, 12:32
I use an old Kelly Redwing fitted with a fiberglass handle for felling as the head is relatively thin and of high quality. I have also used some smaller axes and hatchets from Gransfors and Wetterlings. These are the best buy for a new axe, in my opinion. I recently broke two Council tool axes in a row bucking a 12” spruce- handle separation and the bits were not centered in line with poll, either. The domestic axe market is not what is was, unfortunately. Stihl sells a line made by Oxhead from Germany. Their splitter is the best I’ve used and well made (I split about 5-6 cord a year). A friend brought one of their smaller hatchets to elk camp and it also performed well.
Fiskars. They are so good that I have several, but the 23.5” size is probably the one that sees most use.
I'm a convert. I have a huge collection of various wood handled "traditional" axes and I'm slowly converting to just using Fiskars. I'm a Stihl chainsaw dealer and have every single model of their axes and hatchets they have produced in the last five years. The Fiskars collection performs right with them at a significantly lower cost. As for splitting wood, I have ditched all my Stihl splitters for Fiskars splitting axes as well.
I picked up a kelly red warrior at the flea market last year for 20 bucks. In my youth the Stihl saws were always the best for hard use. Do they still have that good reputation?
hotrodder636
12-23-17, 14:05
I use a Gransfor Bruks small Forrest axe. Not too big or heavy. Great edge, cuts well for camping/hiking needs.
Don Robison
12-23-17, 22:16
I have a few the most used are the Husqvarna carpenters axe and Wetterlings boys axe. I also like to use my Sager Chemical cruiser double bit. I just picked up a vintage Gransfors Bruks 3.5lb head on ebay last week and hung it on a new handle, but haven't used it much yet.
I know many people like them, but I wouldn't own another Fiskars; I love their other stuff, just hate their axes.
I have two different Gransfors Bruks. Keep them oiled or they will rust.
Keep them oiled or they will rust.
Yes on this.
Was on a roll buying Axes, but halted for now.
http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae360/chc_hmc/th_AxeFamily.jpg (http://s987.photobucket.com/user/chc_hmc/media/AxeFamily.jpg.html)
Yes on this.
Was on a roll buying Axes, but halted for now.
http://i987.photobucket.com/albums/ae360/chc_hmc/th_AxeFamily.jpg (http://s987.photobucket.com/user/chc_hmc/media/AxeFamily.jpg.html)
Dude! What is number 6 counting from the right hand side? That is a nice looking collection you have CLHC!
Speaking of oil, what do you use on the handles? I picked up a re-handled boys axe at the flea market for $8. I had a half bottle of synthetic motor oil at the time so I used that on the handle. Seemed to work okay and soaked in nicely. When I brought the Hudson Bay home I picked up some boiled linseed oil and applied 7 or 8 coats. Handle turned out real nice and smooth.
Dude! What is number 6 counting from the right hand side? That is a nice looking collection you have CLHC!
Thanks. Number six [6] from the RH side is a Council Tool Velicut Hudson Bay Camp Axe.
Speaking of oil, what do you use on the handles? I picked up a re-handled boys axe at the flea market for $8. I had a half bottle of synthetic motor oil at the time so I used that on the handle. Seemed to work okay and soaked in nicely. When I brought the Hudson Bay home I picked up some boiled linseed oil and applied 7 or 8 coats. Handle turned out real nice and smooth.
I used Klean Strip Boiled Linseed Oil also.
JackFanToM
12-26-17, 17:03
Husqvarna Forest Axe, refinished the handle, treated with boiled linseed oil and touched up the convex edge
I use a Gransfors Bruks Scandinavian Forest Axe, love it.
On the handle I also use linseed oil. I also use linseed oil on all of my wood handled tools.
BrigandTwoFour
12-27-17, 17:28
I'm relatively new to the axe game, but I picked up a Wetterlings Outdoor Axe 118 a while back, it has served me well. I think it's roughly analogous to the Gransfors Bruks Small Forest Axe.
A trick I learned on a bushcraft forum is using the same Obenauf's LP that I put on my leather to coat the axe head and handle. Worked pretty well so far.
https://everydaymarksman.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/p1020569.jpg
I'm a convert. I have a huge collection of various wood handled "traditional" axes and I'm slowly converting to just using Fiskars. I'm a Stihl chainsaw dealer and have every single model of their axes and hatchets they have produced in the last five years. The Fiskars collection performs right with them at a significantly lower cost. As for splitting wood, I have ditched all my Stihl splitters for Fiskars splitting axes as well.
I agree.
We use our field tools hard. I make bolos and parangs and whatnot, and have lots of traditional cutting tools. The Fiskars splitting "maul" is tops. Does double duty as a felling axe and actually is superior to the axe as the one I gave my son actually took material under the plastic surrounding the head. I dug it out of the scrap pile for the pic. I reckon I'll use it for a hot chisel at the forge if the plastic handle doesn't melt.
https://s5.postimg.org/is829jkx3/Quarter_Split12212017_009_1024x576.jpg
https://s5.postimg.org/s7q8bv09z/fiskarsaxe_004_1024x576.jpg
Husqvarna Forest Axe, refinished the handle, treated with boiled linseed oil and touched up the convex edge
Coat the handle in thick linseed oil and then put a propane torch to it and let it burn off, then coat it again.
Improves the grip immensely. I do it with my smithing hammer handles.
I'm relatively new to the axe game, but I picked up a Wetterlings Outdoor Axe 118 a while back, it has served me well. I think it's roughly analogous to the Gransfors Bruks Small Forest Axe.
More so now, as Gransfors bought Wetterlings and will be using their forge for additional Gransfors production.
https://www.gransforsbruk.com/en/information-cooperation-wetterlings-gransfors-bruk/
More so now, as Gransfors bought Wetterlings and will be using their forge for additional Gransfors production.
https://www.gransforsbruk.com/en/information-cooperation-wetterlings-gransfors-bruk/
Not really good news.
Wetterlings could be had for a fraction of what the GB axes go for. I suppose those days are over...
Interesting read on the Axe making process.
http://www.wetterlings.com/how-to/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thWBfiUpe48
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-msQVhB440
Also a Hudson Bay fan. Have a few axes but my Council Tool Velvicut is probably my favorite. A little too heavy for long backpacking trips but for short overnight missions or car camping its perfect.
https://i.imgur.com/cRvTaeY.jpg?2
SeriousStudent
01-01-18, 15:41
Not really good news.
Wetterlings could be had for a fraction of what the GB axes go for. I suppose those days are over...
Rats, I agree with you. I have a pair of Wetterlings and love them. I also have a GB axe and a hatchet of theirs, and they are tremendous. But I was able to buy both the Wetterlings at a great price during an online sale.
Most of the steel today is sh*t. Best advice anyone gave me is if you a need a hand tool of some sort buy it on ebay or a flea market and restore it. Even vice grips of today are crap compared to onse from 10 years ago.
If wanting an axe I would look on ebay for decent head in the pattern you want from Collins, Plumb, Sager Chemical (if looking for a double bit), or Kelly and then get a handle from your local hardware store or from Beaver Tooth Handles. Learn how to hang an axe it's a valuable skill and not hard.
If you must buy new, Councils Tools higher end axes are good along with Husqvarna, Wetterlings, Gränsfors Bruk, and Hults Bruk with Husqvarna being the best deal for the money as they are made by Wetterlings just not hevely finished. Fiskars make great splitting axes but are not the best for felling. The majority of boutique US made axes are OK but hands down you will get a better axe restoring one yourself. US steel from 30s through to the 60s is just unbeatable.
gunnerblue
01-01-18, 18:41
Not really good news.
Wetterlings could be had for a fraction of what the GB axes go for. I suppose those days are over...
IME, Wetterlings lacked in the fit and finish department as compared to GB which may explain the price difference. I’ve done some joint training with Air Force SERE types and they all carried GB Scandinavian Forest Axes. They used them to great effect and convinced an ultralight friend of mine to start carrying a hatchet. :)
So, can someone please explain to me, the uninitiated, what makes a GB axe so much better than any other axe?
So, can someone please explain to me, the uninitiated, what makes a GB axe so much better than any other axe?
Good steel and they are hand forged but most of it has to do with marketing
https://youtu.be/LMuFFgFAfOQ
gunnerblue
01-01-18, 19:42
Drop-forged of good steel which is tough and will hold an edge. QUALITY hickory handles which will last and tightly fitted to the head (these two are especially important and often overlooked). Overall nice finishing and their various models are well-balanced and designed to their respective purposes.
Good read on Swedish axe models if you care - http://www.ramblinjim.com/articles/swedish-axe-models-compared-wetterlings-alternatives/
Also a Hudson Bay fan. Have a few axes but my Council Tool Velvicut is probably my favorite. A little too heavy for long backpacking trips but for short overnight missions or car camping its perfect.
https://i.imgur.com/cRvTaeY.jpg?2
Excellent axe! Loved the axe making vids.
I have never tried one, but I have always been a fan of the Marbles axe. Anyone here ever used one? Next time I'm at SMKW I'm going to pick one up and give it a try.
https://www.smkw.com/marbles-outdoor-axe-20-in-handle
Ned Christiansen
01-03-18, 11:35
Wow, surprising to me how many guys have axes. They are an important tool to me as I heat with wood. All of mine are probably at least seventy years old, all are what I consider to be family heirlooms (except the handle-less one I found in the middle of the road recently).
I grew up using axes and the first time I needed a new handle I was shocked to learn the awful truth-- curved handles and double-bit axes are no longer done and I still am not sure if that was a family thing or something that fell from favor but ever double bit axe I have or have used has a curved handle. It make so much sense: one side is for roots or anything else that might tend to dull the edge-- a piece of barbed wire grown into a log or what have you. You can easily tell by the feel of the handle which edge you're using and actually switch to one or the other on the back swing. So, the one edge is kept max sharp for best cutting.
When I broke a handle a few years ago it was such a surprise to find they don't make these and then I did remember Dad re-handling one maybe 15 years ago and he had to modify the curved handle to fit the eye of a double bit axe. Anyway it is a most worthwhile axe format. I have a few single-bit axes but seldom use them. The hammer side is not something I ever need but a second edge is something I often need.
Wow, surprising to me how many guys have axes. They are an important tool to me as I heat with wood. All of mine are probably at least seventy years old, all are what I consider to be family heirlooms (except the handle-less one I found in the middle of the road recently).
I grew up using axes and the first time I needed a new handle I was shocked to learn the awful truth-- curved handles and double-bit axes are no longer done and I still am not sure if that was a family thing or something that fell from favor but ever double bit axe I have or have used has a curved handle. It make so much sense: one side is for roots or anything else that might tend to dull the edge-- a piece of barbed wire grown into a log or what have you. You can easily tell by the feel of the handle which edge you're using and actually switch to one or the other on the back swing. So, the one edge is kept max sharp for best cutting.
When I broke a handle a few years ago it was such a surprise to find they don't make these and then I did remember Dad re-handling one maybe 15 years ago and he had to modify the curved handle to fit the eye of a double bit axe. Anyway it is a most worthwhile axe format. I have aw single-bit axes but seldom use them. The hammer side is not something I ever need but a second edge is something I often need.
All the double bit axes I've seen have a straight handle. I can see where a curved one with a dedicated bit-side would be advantageous. In my youth we used wood heat as did most in the community. I busted up many a cord of wood back then. I sure miss the heat from a wood fire today.
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I find I use the Gransfors Scandinavian Forest Axe the most, especially at work. The one in the pic is a new replacement for one that was stolen from my ruck. That Council Hudson Bay I picked up on an impulse when buying some bar chain oil. Not shown is a Husqvarna Multipurpose that's in my locker at work and a couple of old heads (Plumb and Collins) that I need to hang. My next purchase will probably be a Gransfors Splitting Maul.
Oh, here's the Snow & Nealley the command got each of us for Christmas:
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SeriousStudent
01-03-18, 20:02
Man, lots of good info in this thread. :)
So where do you gents recommend getting a good hickory handle for a hatchet or axe? I spotted this fellow on ebay:
http://stores.ebay.com/Hickory-Handle-Store?_trksid=p2047675.l2563
Anyone else have someone they recommend?
Man, lots of good info in this thread. :)
So where do you gents recommend getting a good hickory handle for a hatchet or axe? I spotted this fellow on ebay:
http://stores.ebay.com/Hickory-Handle-Store?_trksid=p2047675.l2563
Anyone else have someone they recommend?
They are good to go. I mentioned them in my my post above. House Handle is also good to go - https://www.househandle.com/. Make sure you put in the notes you want the handles unfinished.
SeriousStudent
01-03-18, 20:16
Ah, thank you very much, I missed that. I'll check out House Handle as well.
Do you just use linseed or tung oil on the handles? Any advice you can offer there?
And truly, there is something very satisfying about restoring an old tool to working order, and passing it onto the kids or grandkids.
Ah, thank you very much, I missed that. I'll check out House Handle as well.
Do you just use linseed or tung oil on the handles? Any advice you can offer there?
And truly, there is something very satisfying about restoring an old tool to working order, and passing it onto the kids or grandkids.
I like boiled linseed oil. The hickory handle on my council tools hudson bay took about 6 or 7 coats before it stopped soaking in, but it sure looks and feels good. You're exactly right about old tools. I picked up a single bit at the flea market from an old gentleman who had done an excellent job on the re-handling. It just looked and felt good in the hands.
Anyone know the best way to make a handle collar or handle guard? Leather, rubber, etc? Anyone ever made one of these? Please teach us (me) how!
Ah, thank you very much, I missed that. I'll check out House Handle as well.
Do you just use linseed or tung oil on the handles? Any advice you can offer there?
And truly, there is something very satisfying about restoring an old tool to working order, and passing it onto the kids or grandkids.
Yep - I use boiled linseed oil. 4 or 5 coats on a new handle and then a few coats in the fall and again in the spring. If you store your axes inside let them sit out overnight to let the handles pull moisture from the air before you use them.
If your on facebook checkout the group axe junkies. Lots of good info there.
I like to use pure raw linseed (flax seed) oil. Great results without the rest of the nasty chemicals, penetrates and works fine without them. Added plus, It is also great for seasoning cast iron cookware.
Great thread with a lot of good information. For some reason I wanted an axe for my birthday last year. Ended up with two, one being a double bladed axe. Not sure of the brands but I enjoy using both of them.
SeriousStudent
01-04-18, 18:14
Awesome, thanks for the information, gents!
While I have no experience in chopping cords of wood and little chopping experience in general, I started to have an interest in axes/tomahawks/etc. This past Christmas, my future in-laws gave me one of the following:
http://www.hbforge.com/polled-axes/medium-camp-axe
I had stumbled upon the H&B Forge on some online forum(maybe this one?) and bookmarked it thinking maybe someday I would purchase one. I don't know if its anywhere on the same level as the ones you guys are discussing but its my new addition to my hiking pack and will come along on camping trips.
I found a great field sharpening alternative to expensive Gransfors sharpening pucks. Google "japanese axe puck" and there's youtube tutorials.
The BLUF is: Buy a $20 King 250/1000 dual grit japanese wetstone and cut into four pucks. Great field sharpener for $5.
I made up a bunch and gave them to co-workers for Christmas, everyone loves them.
There's what one can consider "boutique" Axes from Northmen Guild (http://northmen.com/en/products/axes) and Autine (http://www.autinetools.com/en/catalog/axes). I did have (when it was John Neeman Tools) the Northlander Forest Axe "Stalwart I" which I now regret selling it off. . .
Then there are the Racing Axes from the likes of Brute Forge Axes and Tuatahi Axes. That's a whole other set of striking edged tools I don't mind having, but realistically have no use for.
SeriousStudent
01-05-18, 17:58
I found a great field sharpening alternative to expensive Gransfors sharpening pucks. Google "japanese axe puck" and there's youtube tutorials.
The BLUF is: Buy a $20 King 250/1000 dual grit japanese wetstone and cut into four pucks. Great field sharpener for $5.
I made up a bunch and gave them to co-workers for Christmas, everyone loves them.
That's a great idea, and small enough to take into the field for squad gear.
While not a field sharpener, I've used the Work Sharp Sharpener for a quick touch up on the edges.
Ned Christiansen
01-05-18, 19:03
I sharpen mine with this special tool called any-old-file-wot's-handy.
Good read on Swedish axe models if you care - http://www.ramblinjim.com/articles/swedish-axe-models-compared-wetterlings-alternatives/
Really good information. I picked up a Husqvarna carpenters axe. It is much better quality than the axe I would have bought before coming across this thread. Thanks
Don Robison
01-07-18, 09:08
I found a great field sharpening alternative to expensive Gransfors sharpening pucks. Google "japanese axe puck" and there's youtube tutorials.
The BLUF is: Buy a $20 King 250/1000 dual grit japanese wetstone and cut into four pucks. Great field sharpener for $5.
I made up a bunch and gave them to co-workers for Christmas, everyone loves them.
That's what I did as well. Works like a champ.
I might have an axe problem.
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Alright I was convinced.
Mine is Mattias Blixt forged.
I’m using BLO on the handle.
BLO has driers in its formulation, something Raw Linseed oil does not and can get sticky under certain conditions.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180107/06a06053fb44b1148c1e88ef8dcb37f6.jpg
Gransfors has quite the following at work. Here's a few prior to being issued to instructors.
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SeriousStudent
01-07-18, 14:15
Nice! I am glad to see they are investing in quality tools that will serve them well. :)
I wish! They were all personal purchase.
We got a discount on them, but they still cost more than they did before the 2007 warehouse fire that destroyed much of their inventory. The only GOV purchased axes are the large Fiskers that we keep at the buildings.
https://blog.woodworkingtooltips.com/2007/12/sad-news-from-grnsfors-bruks-usa/
+1 on the Gränsfors Bruks Small Forest Axe
Ned Christiansen
01-07-18, 18:16
I don’t think I ever actually bought an axe in my life, these all came from my Dad. But the two on the floor were the ones he kept for himself until very late in life. Note the very slender handles. Double-bit heads (one is a “Plumb” brand and I forgot the other), doe’s-foot handles which are definitely not modified from single-bit handles. Don’t know if he made them, someone else made them, or if they were just very available at one time.
Armload-o’-hatchets not shown!
https://i.imgur.com/jbc8hh5.jpg
The upright double-bit with new-looking curved handle is one where the old curved handle got broken teaching a kid how to split wood; the Old Man got a curved handle which was made for a single-bit head and modified it, like fifteen years ago. Various covers home made from leather, aluminum, and Kevlar.
https://i.imgur.com/mBounWP.jpg
Somebody name these tools. A few were found at an old logging camp site in the UP, ca 1890-1920.
https://i.imgur.com/aliMSmD.jpg
Big fellas, specialty use, a left and a righty. Pretty sure Dad made the big handle:
https://i.imgur.com/R0IPkNh.jpg
Guys, we’re coaxing each other into dangerous territory here. I thought I had a bunch of axes and old lumberjack tools. Now you have me thinking I might have a collection. It’s all I can do to not spend half a day cleaning and sharpening and polishing and oiling and shopping for more. Please, stop the madness!
Why not clean and sharpen them all? I’d say you do indeed have a nice collection started.
You are from MI? Hmmm
Guys, we’re coaxing each other into dangerous territory here.
Tell me about it. It leads to scanning eBay and and stopping by garage sales, flea markets and antique stores looking for axe heads and scrutinizing piles of hickory handles for runout.
Somebody name these tools. A few were found at an old logging camp site in the UP, ca 1890-1920.
I recognize the Peavey and a very well-worn pick head axe.
Tell me about it. It leads to scanning eBay and and stopping by garage sales, flea markets and antique stores looking for axe heads and scrutinizing piles of hickory handles for runout.
I just bought a GB vintage head on eBay to restore. Ha!
This is all very good stuff.
Must make an axe. I've made parangs and bolos for years {prefer them over hatchets and hand axes for trekking}, and recently made a 2 lb hammer, and have a 5 lb hammer in the works, but you guys are giving me some ideas...
I just bought a GB vintage head on eBay to restore. Ha!
Nice! Is it pre-initials?
Ned Christiansen
01-07-18, 22:50
Why not clean and sharpen them all? I’d say you do indeed have a nice collection started.
You are from MI? Hmmm
Ay, Yai Yai. You just cost me a half hour, Mister!
I can't find the one I found in the road this summer. I have a handle half-way shoved up it.... the local surplus place had a barrel of handles which were no doubt seconds but by far good enough for a found axe.
Dad grew up and worked in lumber camps in his late teens so Axe 101 came at a young age for me.... not that I'm an expert.
The peavey is what I always knew as a cant hook. I looked up peavey and it's the same thing with a spike at the end. The pick thing is what Dad called a pickaroon, hybrided with an axe. I've used it plenty and always thought it was home made from a double-bit but looking closer tonight (as I carefully and tenderly cleaned, sharpened, and oiled it :D), I believe it was made that way. No maker's name. The hook with a handle is what he called a snus hook. This one is blacksmith-made. The hook geometry is such that when you put it in the end of a log, one on each end, the weight of the log sets the hook more.
Some fine looking tools guys! I too like the GB axes, but now I'm into the Hudson Bay pattern, especially after using one. Some good deals can be found on all types of ax heads by perusing your local flea markets.
Nice! Is it pre-initials?
Yes it is....a 5# monster that I grabbed a 35” GB handle for today as well.
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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180109/b79a9b56b71ac1024195a44059640a3c.jpg
That blade should swing like a beast!
Family shot.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180111/0ba482c004ca861efbbdd2604cc22166.jpg
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Family shot.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180111/0ba482c004ca861efbbdd2604cc22166.jpg
Awesome. Nice axes.
My family shot...the top one is a really old 4lb. Kelly True Temper I found in my father's shed that I restored and re-hafted.
https://i.imgur.com/ZsLeoAv.jpg?1
Lawnchair 04
01-20-18, 20:10
Bit of a side question but Is there any place that has a Gränsfors bruks splitting axe in stock? Or a place someone feels comfortable back ordering from?
Bit of a side question but Is there any place that has a Gränsfors bruks splitting axe in stock? Or a place someone feels comfortable back ordering from?
Do you have a Fjallraven store nearby? The two around me have good SA on Gransfors and how to wrangle a few. Any of the reputable woodworking suppliers, such as Highland Woodworking or Shelter Institute are also a good option.
Bit of a side question but Is there any place that has a Gränsfors bruks splitting axe in stock? Or a place someone feels comfortable back ordering from?
I'm not associated with this store and have only visited once. But I have ordered from them for years and have had no problems. https://www.smkw.com/ Looks like the GB splitting axe is in stock: https://www.smkw.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?brand=Gransfors+Bruks&q=axe
CSP Forestry usually have them in-stock.
I wish this thread hadn't come up. Y'all just made me spend $$ on a Gransfor Bruks Scandinavian Forest Ax. I like this overall size of this ax. It's small enough that I can keep it in my tool kit for the truck an still large enough to be a good multi-purpose tool. Will go perfectly with my short handled shovel. As much as I'm in the woods all year clearing trails around my stand and general prep and care of my hunting areas this will be perfect.
Some of my favorite tools when camping and backpacking...
https://i.imgur.com/lv0YKW9.jpg?1
I wish this thread hadn't come up. Y'all just made me spend $$ on a Gransfor Bruks Scandinavian Forest Ax. I like this overall size of this ax. It's small enough that I can keep it in my tool kit for the truck an still large enough to be a good multi-purpose tool. Will go perfectly with my short handled shovel. As much as I'm in the woods all year clearing trails around my stand and general prep and care of my hunting areas this will be perfect.
You're very welcome.
Some of my favorite tools when camping and backpacking...
https://i.imgur.com/lv0YKW9.jpg?1
Good choices. Jonnyt16 knows his tools!
My dad has got a bunch of old axes in the garage. worth restoring? if, so any links on a how to?
Here's an excellent article that I keep coming back to:
An Axe to Grind: A Practical Axe Manual (https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/recreational_trails/publications/fs_publications/99232823/page02.cfm)
Lawnchair 04
03-02-18, 10:47
Well I just got the GF splitting axe I ordered from CSP forestry and it’s beautiful. I’m sure my buddy is gonna love it, he still heats his home with a wood furnace. Now I need to find a reason to order myself a GF small forest axe.
Well I just got the GF splitting axe I ordered from CSP forestry and it’s beautiful. I’m sure my buddy is gonna love it, he still heats his home with a wood furnace. Now I need to find a reason to order myself a GF small forest axe.
Congrats on the purchase. No reason needed. We all like fine AR's and other great tools, so treat yourself to that GF small forest axe!
I need a splitting axe or a maul. I have large red oak rounds that are to heavy to pick up and split with my log splitter. My 8lb Home Depot maul just bounces off the rounds. Fiskar seems to be a great value. Can anyone recommend a model that won't break the bank.
I'm thinking either the X27 or the ISO Core 8lb Maul.
gunnerblue
03-03-18, 20:10
I need a splitting axe or a maul. I have large red oak rounds that are to heavy to pick up and split with my log splitter. My 8lb Home Depot maul just bounces off the rounds. Fiskar seems to be a great value. Can anyone recommend a model that won't break the bank.
I'm thinking either the X27 or the ISO Core 8lb Maul.
Not a Fiskar, but I’m a big fan of Stihl’s splitter made by Oxhead of Germany. I split several cord per year ( sometimes up to 10) of Doug fir, Tamarack and assorted pine and it’s never let me down.
Not a Fiskar, but I’m a big fan of Stihl’s splitter made by Oxhead of Germany. I split several cord per year ( sometimes up to 10) of Doug fir, Tamarack and assorted pine and it’s never let me down.
Thanks but Doug Fir, tamarack and Pine are easy to spilt. Northeastern red oak, sugar maple, black cherry and locust are much harder to split.
sjc3081, have you looked at the splitters and mauls from Council Tool?
Gransfor bruks small forest axe. (#420) but I am looking at teaming it with a folding saw and a Condor pack Golock (11" blade). I doubt I will use it as much then so it may be left behind should I need to drop a couple of pounds but if I can afford to carry it I will.
Mr. Goodtimes
03-11-18, 22:03
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Moose-Knuckle
04-11-18, 17:02
I didn't realize we had so many axe aficionados on here. :cool:
Any of you guys into Timbersports? I try to watch the competitions any chance I get, there are some NCAA teams even!
History's Modern Marvels is one of my favorite shows, they did a special on the axe.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AemGF1T38bs
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I expected nothing less from a guy called Mr Goodtimes.
SquarePizza
04-12-18, 21:24
For general around the house splitting I use various old axes snagged from garage sales and restored. For camping, I bought a wetterlings Buddy.
https://i.imgur.com/Nhey9V8.jpg
Gransfors Brüks Small Forest Axe.
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I’m quite happy with my Gransfors Bruks small forest axe
So what is the 6920 / G19 of axes??
IE: if you had only one, too good of a value of a value not to get, etc.
Next reasonable step up from Chinese/orange box store
I'm seeing swedish made Husqvarna axes that look pretty decent. Not a GB, but supposedly made in one of the big name forges (HB? Wetterlings?). Rebadged h20?
I'm more of a saw guy, but have been using an esterlings hand axe quite a bit more doing trapping stuff, so I'm feeling like I might want to try a forest axe
So what is the 6920 / G19 of axes??
IE: if you had only one, too good of a value of a value not to get, etc.
Next reasonable step up from Chinese/orange box store
One may consider the Made in U.S.A. Council Tool Boy's Axe. :cool:
MisterHelix
04-16-18, 21:49
I use a Council Tool "Hudson Bay" axe, mostly for splitting kindling at the woodpile.
I think if you are using it for bushcraft than a small forest axe or small boys axe is the way to go.
If you live in a wooded area and you need to process wood and have them on the backburner incase the chainsaw goes down I think you need three - a felling axe (3.5 - 4.5 LB with a 32" handle), a boys axe for limbing and pounding in wedges (2 LB w/ 26" handle) and a house axe or large hatchet (1.5 LB with a 16 - 20" handle).
For the money the Husqvarna's are hard to beat. I prefer to get an old head off ebay or a flea market and rehang it. The steel of yesteryear is far better.
I'm pretty new to all of this and I've recently purchased a GB Scandinavian forest Ax. Over the last couple of months I've put it to pretty good use clearing hunting trails, felling small trees and limbing others. I've been looking at getting a larger ax in case my chain saw goes down or I don't feel like carrying it into the woods. I've held off though because the GB Scandinavian so darn versatile. I would consider this my G19 of axes. Fits the bill for most everything I do.
All good info, thanks for the tips! Was unaware of the Council tools axes.
I've got the Husqvarnas available locally, so may do that so I can check grain, etc prior.
I have a Husqvarna multi-purpose in addition to various Gransfors and a Council Hudson Bay. My only issue with the Husqvarna is the haft is too chunky. Mine swings far better after I slimmed it down with a spoke shave. I would consider a Council 28" Hudson Bay or Gransfors Scandinavian Forest Axe the G19, the Council 36" Jersey or Gransfors American Felling Axe (or a good vintage axe) as the battle rifle, and my Gransfors Splitting Maul...is a Gustaf recoilless rifle.
Oh, and now that Snow & Nealley are back to forging and hanging in the U.S. their stuff is pretty good. Everyone at work got Penobscot Bay Axe with our command seal for Christmas and the craftsmanship is legit.
I use a Council Tool "Hudson Bay" axe, mostly for splitting kindling at the woodpile.
How does she perform for you?
I'm looking for a 24" Axe and the flat grind would be easier to maintain the convex grind in my GB SFA so I downloaded some reviews just today.
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Council Tool Boy's Axe
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A co-worker borrowed mine and used this for camping with his family. He stated that it's great for around the camp usage but not for extended trail hiking. I can't fault him for that.
Moose-Knuckle
05-16-18, 01:13
Anyone have experience with Estwing's camper's axe (26" long handle)?
Anyone have experience with Estwing's camper's axe (26" long handle)?
Yep. The blade is fairly thin do it is good at limbing and chopping through smaller trees and logs, or splitting kindling. Not so good at splitting rounds due to thin blade. I like the steel handle for durability but can't choke up on it for one handed splitting. Not long enough for felling trees of much size of course. Overall it does well at exactly as it is named: for camp chores.
For home use or more serious woods adventures I prefer a double bit axe and hatchet. For firewood splitting I like the Fiskars splitting axe.
Moose-Knuckle
05-17-18, 02:33
Yep. The blade is fairly thin do it is good at limbing and chopping through smaller trees and logs, or splitting kindling. Not so good at splitting rounds due to thin blade. I like the steel handle for durability but can't choke up on it for one handed splitting. Not long enough for felling trees of much size of course. Overall it does well at exactly as it is named: for camp chores.
Thanks for the reply.
I have one of their hawks and grew up with their camp ax (short leather washer handle). I like them due to them being a solid piece of steel as opposed to a head on stick.
False Cast
05-17-18, 10:12
I think my Council Tool Forest Servoce Edition Boys Axe is my favorite.
After reading through this thread, figured I toss this into the mix.
For those of you using raw linseed oil, BLO works far better in axe handles as well as rifles.
BLO has driers in its formula that help it dry properly and not finish tacky like linseed oil.
Learnt this from a pro restorer and he was 100% correct. YMMV
I currently have two primary axes, GBA Small Forest Axe and an older Gerber Gator. Both great for different purposes. The GBA is rock solid and initially was afraid to use it as it is beautiful. Now it is my primary for car camping. If I backpack with an axe, I would take the Gerber merrily on weight.
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Update: turns out an old axe in the barn that I assumed was a hardware store special was actually a Council Tool Velvicut Jersey axe. With some cleanup and edge reshaping, it's a cutter.
I'm going to re-hang it, but even with the old haft it made quick work on an 8 in hickory. I was stunned at how precise I was able to cut.
Also picked up a used husqvarna hand axe / hatchet. Super Sharp. But I had read online that folks thought the handle was a little thick. After using it some dealing with beaver stuff, I see what they mean. I've not gotten brave enough to reshape it but I will before it's over with.
just a scout
10-04-20, 02:04
I have a couple Wolf Valley axes. The Kephart and a Carpenters Axe. Beautiful handmade work by Ike and serious cutters/choppers. Definitely worth the cost.
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Dr. Bullseye
10-04-20, 11:59
Fiskars. They are so good that I have several, but the 23.5” size is probably the one that sees most use.
Fiskars has certainly streamlined my wood cutting chores. I have split three cords with it so far this year and I'm 73. Someone on another site recommended the 27 inch model and I followed his recommendation even though I am not tall. That added leverage really makes a difference.
rdcwannabe
10-05-20, 03:35
Husqvarna 26" Classic. It gets the job done and I'm about the long handle.
My axe:
- Silky pocketboy (7.8oz)
- ESEE Junglas (19.6oz)
Combined, 1.7lb. The saw folds into the little case for an easy lightweight carry in your pack, and it cuts through limbs up to nearly 6" diameter like a hot knife thru butter. I also have the slightly larger Silky Gomboy saw, about a 9" blade, that I use around the property for limbing, it's an amazing saw and some like that for their backpacking saw but I never need to process wood that large since I usually go it alone. Anybody who hasn't tried a Silky and loves fine-crafted tools and sharp steel, you've gotta try these saws, you'll never want to use a Gerber or Bahco or whatever again.;) The Junglas gives me chopping, limbing, splitting, brush clearing (limited machete functionality, but in my AO it's good enough and spares bringing another tool), plus it handles regular knife tasks. I've used the larger 10" Junglas for years, then they just came out with this slightly smaller 8", I like the form factor even better, it's a little more carry-able and manageable even though it gives up a little bit of the heft when chopping compared to its big brother. This along with a folder or a small fixed blade, is the 'sharps' kit that I take backpacking. I won't take axes on solo trips anymore for safety reasons, plus this is lighter and handles more tasks that I do.
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I carry a CRKT tomahawk when hiking/outdoors.
sharpened it up and it'll do anything I need.
I recently picked up a Council Tool (CT) Woodcraft axe (19" version). I looked long and hard at the Grasfors Bruks (GB) Small Forest axe, but I liked the head profile on the Woodcraft better. My understanding is that the the GB Small Forest axe is more of a limbing axe (hence the narrower profile), whereas the CT Woodcraft has more of a general purpose head design. But... I know a lot of people really like the Small Forest axe. Knowing me, I'll probably end up buying a GB eventually anyway.
I also have a H&B Forge Medium Camp Hawk on order. Everyone that owns one of these seems to think they're amazing. I guess I'll find out.
Regarding the Fiskars some of you mentioned... how long are they lasting with frequency of use?
Regarding the Fiskars some of you mentioned... how long are they lasting with frequency of use?
I'm probably 6 years in.
boosterboy
06-01-21, 02:08
I disassembled an old bookshelf into firewood using a Benchmade 172 Killian Forged.
The G10 grips are nice.
I'm looking at some of RMJ CRKT stuff.
I've heard good things about the Fiskars though.
Regarding the Fiskars some of you mentioned... how long are they lasting with frequency of use?
I have a Fiskars X27 that has split 30 cords of birch firewood. Treated properly I don't see it dying any time soon. I have a 28" chopping axe that is my winter camping axe and it has held up great as well.
I have a Estwing Special Edition 26" Campers Axe. It replaced my Swamp Rat Tomahawk.
Thread seems to been idle for quite sometime now.
But figured I’d share my recent purchase here
GB large splitting axe
https://i.imgur.com/iubNSDC.jpg
I’ve been liking the Husqvarna carpenter axe lately.
https://i.ibb.co/zPShyXf/994-B723-B-9415-42-D6-9-CE7-15-AE24442-EF5.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/QrM0jV3/2-DBA9-BF7-9276-43-E9-8-C82-CCCC525-C72-C5.jpg
I am thinking about getting me one of these axes from Council Tool. My BIL’s wife is part of the family that runs this business and I have a couple of garden tools they gave me about 25 years ago or so. I’ve used them to clear brush, work in the garden and just general outside use and they are still in great shape. I suspect their axes are top notch, too.
https://counciltool.com/product-category/axes/
gunnerblue
10-01-22, 21:01
I’ve been liking the Husqvarna carpenter axe lately.
https://i.ibb.co/zPShyXf/994-B723-B-9415-42-D6-9-CE7-15-AE24442-EF5.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/QrM0jV3/2-DBA9-BF7-9276-43-E9-8-C82-CCCC525-C72-C5.jpg
I was just looking at these yesterday. They appeared to be rebranded Wetterlings (which isn't a bad thing).
gunnerblue
10-01-22, 21:09
I am thinking about getting me one of these axes from Council Tool. My BIL’s wife is part of the family that runs this business and I have a couple of garden tools they gave me about 25 years ago or so. I’ve used them to clear brush, work in the garden and just general outside use and they are still in great shape. I suspect their axes are top notch, too.
https://counciltool.com/product-category/axes/
We've issued these in patrol vehicles for years, they work well on the medium-large fir and spruce trees that have fallen across the road behind me blocking exit.
Among others...
https://i.imgur.com/us61B2K.jpg
I was just looking at these yesterday. They appeared to be rebranded Wetterlings (which isn't a bad thing).
Close. Husqvarna has used Wetterlings some and may still. This latest one is being made by Hults Bruk which is good.
gunnerblue
10-02-22, 12:14
Close. Husqvarna has used Wetterlings some and may still. This latest one is being made by Hults Bruk which is good.
Thanks
I’ve had a husqvarna carpenters axe for years. It has seen many camping trips and has help up nice. Treat the handle with linseed oil. Perfect for my use and has been a great little camp axe.
kaiservontexas
10-05-22, 19:03
I use the Gransfors Bruk hunter model axe.
https://i.imgur.com/OVkspHR.jpg
The GB large splitting axe and an old head I just hung this weekend
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