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Please don’t tell me to get a glock 20. I have little girl hands.
I’m not sure they are even shipping yet.
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Shot it (5" and 6"). Ran well, and that 6" was very soft shooting. Would take it over the Colt.
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Please don’t tell me to get a glock 20. I have little girl hands.
Have you tried shooting the 20? I wear a small glove with a little room to spare and shot my buddies 29 with ease as long as I used the mags with the pinky extension.
That being said I too would like to hear people’s thoughts on it. Though with Springfield’s snafu earlier this year I don’t know how well this will sell.
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Shot it (5" and 6"). Ran well, and that 6" was very soft shooting. Would take it over the Colt.
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Please tell me they also let you guys demo a new TRP 9mm that will be announced at SHOT...
Have you tried shooting the 20? I wear a small glove with a little room to spare and shot my buddies 29 with ease as long as I used the mags with the pinky extension.
That being said I too would like to hear people’s thoughts on it. Though with Springfield’s snafu earlier this year I don’t know how well this will sell.
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I'm pretty sure mostly/ only people on the internet who like to complain and never intend on buying Springer products in the first place will be turned off from buying a Springer in light of that issue.
I’m curious as to why the omission of magwells. The other TRPs, railed and standard have them in .45.
I’m curious as to why the omission of magwells. The other TRPs, railed and standard have them in .45.
I was wondering if that had to do with it being 10mm. I don't know why it would, but that's the only thing I could think of.
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Spent this year raising an infant son so I missed the issue. Can you point me in a direction or give me a readers digest version?
Spent this year raising an infant son so I missed the issue. Can you point me in a direction or give me a readers digest version?
It was some political BS. They were affiliated with someone who was part of some questionable gun law in Illinois or something. It was pretty overblown if you ask me.
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Handled one at the shop today and it's pretty awesome. Very tight. The sideways scallops treatment felt a little weird, the finish was really flat black, not the low luster like the standard TRP.
I have only owned one Springfield (champion) and it was not reliable. Sent it back to Springfield and still didn’t run. However, my Colt DE wont run either very well (extractor clocking) and Colt wasn’t interested in fixing it (yes, I sent it back too.) so I might give this Springfield a try. I hand load for 10mm and I like the cartridge. I would like to see more reviews before I pull the trigger on one though.
Please tell me they also let you guys demo a new TRP 9mm that will be announced at SHOT...
No.
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Yes.
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**** yeah.
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**** yeah.
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Oh fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
shakazulu12
12-31-17, 18:29
My day is officially made!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p11tbc5P3Y0
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has anyone added an optic to a TRP. I know the RMR is wider than the slide but the delta point pro might work. Is there a way of mounting that doesn't involve slide milling. If not, any recommendations for slide milling on 1911s. I have an itch for a 10mm optic equipped pistol. My buddy has a Glock 40 and its a pretty impressive package if you have the hands.
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Trijicon makes a mounting plate for the 1911 that seems to work well with milling. ATEi can do the work, they actually just posted a picture of a 1911 they did yesterday I think.
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I finger banged one in a LGS, it was nice like all SA and much like the TRP dynasty. I drink SA 1911 koolaid 100%. I have a LIpsey 9mm, or I would pony up for the 9mm in a heart beat. Would love to shoot the 10mm. Thanks to G4I for the video.
Im not a 10mm guy, but this is tempting.
PB
Every day when I wake up I check to see if the 9mm TRP was announced. Then I can stop drifting this thread.
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shakazulu12
01-07-18, 14:48
Every day when I wake up I check to see if the 9mm TRP was announced. Then I can stop drifting this thread.
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Don't feel bad. I'm doing the same thing.
I bought the lipsey edition. I LOVE my TRP, but this option is legit. It’s 9mm and has great upgrades and rail.
I bought the lipsey edition. I LOVE my TRP, but this option is legit. It’s 9mm and has great upgrades and rail.
What is the capacity?
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I bought the lipsey edition. I LOVE my TRP, but this option is legit. It’s 9mm and has great upgrades and rail.
If they were easier to find I probably would have as well. But I like FCS and hopefully the TRP will come with a magwell too.
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Ordered mine last Weds, picked it up Fri. My local outdoor range is closed the first full weekend of each month, so I hope to be able to go run it some this upcoming week.
Initial impressions from just fondling it are favorable.
https://photos.smugmug.com/Hobbies/Firearms-Photos/Springfield-TRP-Operator-10mm/n-XTgc6f/i-4NmwNQc/0/cbee3a11/XL/i-4NmwNQc-XL.jpg
That was fast. I wasn't sure if they were even shipping yet.
That was fast. I wasn't sure if they were even shipping yet.
They're definitely starting to get out into the stores. I barely missed one on Gunbroker and decided to just skip the nonsense and get my local guy to order one for me. I was surprised at how quickly it arrived too.
Gharddog03
01-07-18, 21:00
Have to get the CC out again!!
ginzomatic
01-08-18, 09:14
Have to get the CC out again!!
+1. And I told myself I was going to stop for a while
Yes.
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Grant, I didn’t see anything from SHOT, do you know when they plan on releasing the TRP 9mm?
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Grant, I didn’t see anything from SHOT, do you know when they plan on releasing the TRP 9mm?
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Sorry, missed the TRP part. I do not know if they will offer that gun in 9mm. I don't see why not.
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What is the capacity?
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10 plus 1. Several mag mfg make 9mm 1911 mags so they will likely all have same capacity. A very good double stack 9mm that feels like a 1911 is the Sig SOA Legion. Has 1911 safety and trigger feels like a 1911. It's not a 1911 but handles just like one.
I just got one. Dies arrived yesterday; I'm now shopping bullets and brass. I'll let y'all know how she shoots.
Edited... I hate this place. I've had the 1911 itch for a while now as I've been without one for years. I've also wanted a 1911 in 10mm since the late 80's. Bucket list item checked. I finger-fondled this TRP yesterday. I went back to the LGS today and asked for their best deal and showed them what I could do online. They matched the best price. Just put it in the safe. I'll let you know how it does when I have time to shoot it.
I got the 5". The 6" was just too big. It might be a little more tame, but it felt like I might as well just have an SBR instead.
They released an RMR variant for those that haven't seen it. Exciting to see them start selling RMR equipped 1911s though I don't know why they didn't offer one with a rail and FCS. I messaged them on IG and told them to make a 9mm RMR TRP Operator, they said "great idea." Hopefully it's already in the works, I was all set on a DW Specialist but if I can get the gun with an RMR from the factory, that's a huge plus.
So then, who makes a decent holster to fit this beast??? It’s bigger than the average 1911 me thinks.
So then, who makes a decent holster to fit this beast??? It’s bigger than the average 1911 me thinks.
The Masterfire should work, if that suits your role for it.
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I was really excited to see the RMR TRP. Is it my imagination or does not have a rail? Wtf Springfield.
MountainRaven
05-11-18, 13:58
It looks like they made the frame from the same forging as the railed frames, they just don't appear to have machined the frame for the rail.
I'd guess they're marketing it to handgun hunters, not to folks wanted to put one on their nightstand or duty rig.
It also doesn't have forward cocking serrations.
I'm really surprised that the RMR version doesn't have a rail. That sounds like a bad decision at best. Best of both worlds, I wish it had adapter plates like the Glock MOS series. I use a Deltapoint Pro, but like not being tied to a single optic type. That is, until some later point when the optic mounting footprint gets standardized. (Which, I think, is likely when Big Army chooses a pistol optic.)
First range trip: SIG 180 grain FMJ at published 1250 fps, and handloads duplicating same (Starline brass, Hornady 180 FMJ-FP, 13.0 grains AA #9). These are not cutting-edge loads, but neither are they FBI-lite spec. 100 rounds fired. Fail to fully chamber, about every fifth or sixth round. I used both factory mags and a Mec-Gar. Mags did not affect functioning. Same rate of failure with both SIG ammo and home-brew.
Second range trip: After very thorough cleaning and lubing with Breakfree LP (not CLP), same ammo fired, 100 rounds. This time fewer such failures to chamber in the first fifty. Second fifty, only a couple of bobbles.
Tentative theory: gun needs breaking in out of the box.
Planning third trip to range this week. Same scenario: thorough cleaning, heavy lubrication. I'm anticipating improvement.
Stay tuned.
Uni-vibe,
I had the same problem. Let me save you some trouble. Just send it in for warranty work. Turned out it did not need breaking in, it needed a little fine-tuning.
Best warranty in the industry. They took mine in, re-cut and polished the feed ramp. They also milled a few spots elsewhere, as well as tuned the extractor.
The entire turnaround was less than two weeks door to door. What I received back fires like something from the custom shop. It spits out brass like a hot knife through butter now. I’m very happy with this.
Best decision I made was just sending it back in after 150 rounds. Seriously, this thing is a solid performer now.
ETA: I’m very happy with this TRP and the SA warranty. It’s a keeper.
Uni-vibe,
I had the same problem. Let me save you some trouble. Just send it in for warranty work. Turned out it did not need breaking in, it needed a little fine-tuning.
Best warranty in the industry. They took mine in, re-cut and polished the feed ramp. They also milled a few spots elsewhere, as well as tuned the extractor.
The entire turnaround was less than two weeks door to door. What I received back fires like something from the custom shop. It spits out brass like a hot knife through butter now. I’m very happy with this.
Best decision I made was just sending it back in after 150 rounds. Seriously, this thing is a solid performer now.
ETA: I’m very happy with this TRP and the SA warranty. It’s a keeper.
I have had some guns that needed a break in too, and it worked out. However, I would heed the advice of Det-Sog and send it in. You will end up with a better gun that has been gone over by the best. No downside. Thats why buying a SA 1911 is a very safe bet. In the unlikely event it needs work, you get it FREE.
Also, it helps them build better guns for the next guy when they see where they are failing. 10MM is a new game in comparison to 45, so do yourself and others a favor, send in and get it buffed tweaked honed!
PB
Alaskapopo
06-25-18, 11:32
I'm really surprised that the RMR version doesn't have a rail. That sounds like a bad decision at best. Best of both worlds, I wish it had adapter plates like the Glock MOS series. I use a Deltapoint Pro, but like not being tied to a single optic type. That is, until some later point when the optic mounting footprint gets standardized. (Which, I think, is likely when Big Army chooses a pistol optic.)
Which will not happen anytime soon.
Third range trip was this afternoon. Fail, fail. I will be contacting Springfield. Maybe they can make it run.
Third range trip was this afternoon. Fail, fail. I will be contacting Springfield. Maybe they can make it run.
They will. I am VERY satisfied with the customer service. It shoots like a custom job now. They really took care of me. From the time I sent the first email to the time I got it back was about two weeks total. If it is like mine, it's going to get the works. It will come back like a custom shop gun. Keep us posted.
Sprg. sent me a free shipping label and are paying for insurance as well. I'll send her off tomorrow. Estimated repair time is two to four weeks.
Back from Springfield.
They did two things. They polished the feed ramp to a mirror finish, and they polished the bottom of the slide where it contacts the round at the top of the magazine. Initially I'm skeptical; I wasn't having any trouble with the bullet stopping on the feed ramp. The problem was the slide not going fully into battery.
Gun shows evidence of much test-firing. Looks like they put more than just five rounds through it.
I'll take it to the range next week, and let y'all know.
RANGE REPORT: it works.
I lubed her up good with CLP. I fired about 50 rounds (Hornday 180 grain FP FMJ, 13.0 grains AA9) and it worked flawlessly. I'll fire some more rounds to be sure, but I think it's going to work. Those loads are not mega max Norma stuff, but AA's published data says they should be going about 1,250 so they're quite a bit stouter than FBI Lite loads you get with most factory loads.
Springfield paid for shipping both ways, and did not charge for the work.
The other gun I took out was my Springfield 1911 in .45 ACP. My 230 grain LRN loads feel like cream-puffs after shooting the Ten.
I think it's fixed.
Bravo Sierra
07-16-18, 18:48
Please don’t tell me to get a glock 20. I have little girl hands.
I dont have large hands either but i had some custom work done by D.R. Middlebrooks he does stippled texturing he calls "stiptex" (go figure) he also removed the finger grooves and flattens the the hump a little on the back of the grip. The feel of my g20 is night and day. The texturing and reduction in frame size makes it feel like a totally different gun.
The other gun I took out was my Springfield 1911 in .45 ACP. My 230 grain LRN loads feel like cream-puffs after shooting the Ten.
I think it's fixed.
Glad they hooked you up like they did with mine.
Yeah... This TRP 10mm just might kick as much as my S&W 629 with full House .44 mags.... Maybe. It’s close. It’s not a range gun. That’s for sure.
Glad they hooked you up like they did with mine.
Yeah... This TRP 10mm just might kick as much as my S&W 629 with full House .44 mags.... Maybe. It’s close. It’s not a range gun. That’s for sure.
You think so? When USPS finds my new loading press, and I load up some stompers for my new Smith 686, I'll see. I have fired full house 240's from a Smith 29, a long time ago, and I recall that it kicked a lot harder than my TRP. Energy on top 10mm loads is about the same, maybe a smidgen more, than top .357 loads. Some folks think 10mm is a semi-auto .41 mag, but it's really not.
And for me, it is a range gun . . . . just not one to shoot 200 rounds at a time through. I loaded up some light AA5 loads, just a bit stronger than FBI Lite spec. Not at all unpleasant to shoot, but then, that's not a real 10mm.
^^^ Could be right. I was shooting full power Sig 10mm ammo though. Let’s just say that I didn’t have to ice my wrist after shooting 75 rounds of .44 Mag out of my 629. I did need to ice after shooting 75 10mm rounds. It’s FUN, but I’ll just practice with 25 or so at a time going forward. This thing isn’t an EDC gun so that should make me proficient with it as a woods gun.
I’m getting older too. I’m sure that doesn’t help either.
Edited. Once I get my reloader set up, I can load up some girly-girl rounds for the range. I’ll keep the Underwood for the woods.
Interesting; I started out when I first got the gun with the Sig 180 grain factory loads. Published data was 1,250. I think I come pretty close with 13.0 of AA9. I haven't chronoed yet, but the kick feels the same and they shoot to the same point of aim. You'll know you ain't shooting a .45.
You could load up some light loads with the same bullet. Try around 8 grains of AA5. I found this to be an easy shooting load that wasn't much more boogie than a .40.
Talked to a Springfield Rep at Triggercon Industry Day. Basically said a bunch of them were also trying to get the MRO equipped pistol to come with a railed frame but were told to pipe down. Sort of a bummer.
Is SACS still operating in limited capacity? Or are they back up to speed?
Im as big as Springfield fanboy as they came but ever since their custom shop limited their menu a while back, I've somewhat lost interest in their new offerings.
Is SACS still operating in limited capacity? Or are they back up to speed?
Im as big as Springfield fanboy as they came but ever since their custom shop limited their menu a while back, I've somewhat lost interest in their new offerings.
I called the Custom Shop. Simple question: can you take a production MRO slide and put it on a production TRP railed frame? Seems pretty straight forward. I was told "no".
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Having shot mine several times, with factory ammo and several kinds of handloads, I can say I'm disappointed in accuracy. Seven yard targets look like buckshot patterns. Maybe this is as accurate as a 1911 without a fitted barrel bushing can get. Max published loads are less accurate than if I take a half-grain of powder off.
^^^ Sorry to hear that. That does not sound right. Mine will make one big ragged hole at 15 yds. I'd send it back in to SA. I'd bet that they hook you up. Like i said, since mine came back it shoots like a custom shop version that costs 1000k more.
Det-Sog, what ammo are you using?
I'm not reloading (yet) so I've been using Factory Sellier and Bellot 180gr or Factory Sig Sauer 180gr. I've had no hiccups since she came back from SA. Not one malfunction.
How does your weapon feel when it's locked up in battery? Mine is as tight as a drum. This TRP operator "feels" like it's a custom fitted bushing. The entire action is tight. There is NO noticeable play anywhere in mine at all. Zero. In fact, I believe mine was milled a little too tight upon production which was causing the initial stoppages. Imho, SA has the best customer service around. If you're not happy, send it in AGAIN. Yes, this sucks but they will find out what's wrong and fix it. You should have a competition grade gun here.
I've learned that 1911's are a different animal. Unlike a new out of the box Glock or a Sig, sometimes they need a little TLC. A certain amount of patience is needed. As I'm not a patient guy, this has been a learning experience for me. Since this isn't a carry gun though, I've adopted it as a project and LOVE IT now that it's running like a Swiss watch.
I agree with Det-Sog's assessment of the 1911 generally. I've been shooting and reloading for 1911 for 40 years. In general, the tighter the action, the more finicky they are and/or the more break in they need.
I'm using the same factory ammo, Sig 180 grain FMJ, which is definitely NOT FBI-lite loading. It speaks with authority. Sig claims 1,250 fps for it, and though I haven't chronoed it, I believe it.
I sent Sprg. customer service an email last night. Maybe they'll take it back and try to make it shoot properly. They cured the feeding problem, now they can work on the abysmal accuracy.
Sprg. is sending it back to me. They basically washed their hands on the accuracy issue. In a phone call they implied that it was shooter error. That's certainly a possibility, but it doesn't explain why at the same distance I shoot vastly smaller groups with my Smith 629. And why I shoot much better with a 1911 in .45. So maybe I'm stuck.
I agree with Det-Sog's assessment of the 1911 generally. I've been shooting and reloading for 1911 for 40 years. In general, the tighter the action, the more finicky they are and/or the more break in they need.
I'm using the same factory ammo, Sig 180 grain FMJ, which is definitely NOT FBI-lite loading. It speaks with authority. Sig claims 1,250 fps for it, and though I haven't chronoed it, I believe it.
I sent Sprg. customer service an email last night. Maybe they'll take it back and try to make it shoot properly. They cured the feeding problem, now they can work on the abysmal accuracy.
Hmmm.......then my Wilson Combat should be a jammomatic?
Hmmm.......then my Wilson Combat should be a jammomatic?
Who knows? Sprg. fixed the reliability problem. Took her out to the range today. Accuracy still poor. Ammo was
RP 180 grain FMJ
Sig 180 grain FMJ
180 grain hardcast over 13.0 grains AA9.
I cannot recommend that anybody buy the TRP 10mm 1911 based on my experience. It's still fun to shoot, but it won't hit anything. $1800 poorer but wiser.
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