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davidjinks
01-13-18, 10:19
I currently use the standard belt loop attachments, 1.75".
Are the wings better in regards to stability and bringing the gun in tighter to the body?
I'm thinking about changing out the loops to the wings for all of my holsters but wanted some opinions before I did.
I currently have 6 Phantoms for full size semi-autos, & have a 29 in waist..the pancake wings definitely work better for me personally..eta..used in conjunction with an Ares gear belt.
I think the wings pull the holster (or mag carrier) in slightly closer to the body. For me though I notice they also slide back and forth on the belt much easier than the standard loops. It is not an overwhelming problem, and occurs more with the mag carriers, but I have noticed this with virtually every belt I have tried, including Ares.
What I usually do for holsters is a standard loop in front and a wing in back to pull the butt of the pistol in a little closer. This does not seem as likely to move either.
The attachment method that moves the least for me are the QMS straps.
dmaxfireman
01-14-18, 10:52
I think the wings pull the holster (or mag carrier) in slightly closer to the body. For me though I notice they also slide back and forth on the belt much easier than the standard loops. It is not an overwhelming problem, and occurs more with the mag carriers, but I have noticed this with virtually every belt I have tried, including Ares.
What I usually do for holsters is a standard loop in front and a wing in back to pull the butt of the pistol in a little closer. This does not seem as likely to move either.
The attachment method that moves the least for me are the QMS straps.
This is how I make use of the wing loops as well.
davidjinks
01-15-18, 10:57
That's how the Milt Sparks 55BN holster is setup. I may look into setting one up like that.
I think the wings pull the holster (or mag carrier) in slightly closer to the body. For me though I notice they also slide back and forth on the belt much easier than the standard loops. It is not an overwhelming problem, and occurs more with the mag carriers, but I have noticed this with virtually every belt I have tried, including Ares.
What I usually do for holsters is a standard loop in front and a wing in back to pull the butt of the pistol in a little closer. This does not seem as likely to move either.
The attachment method that moves the least for me are the QMS straps.
I currently use the standard belt loop attachments, 1.75".
Are the wings better in regards to stability and bringing the gun in tighter to the body?
I'm thinking about changing out the loops to the wings for all of my holsters but wanted some opinions before I did.
For me, I tried it and it didn't offer a huge improvement in bringing the holster closer to the body. I ended up putting the regular belt attachment back on the holster and sold the pancake wings.
davidjinks
01-19-18, 14:41
Sam,
Did the wings add any more stability to the holster?
For me, I tried it and it didn't offer a huge improvement in bringing the holster closer to the body. I ended up putting the regular belt attachment back on the holster and sold the pancake wings.
To me, I didn't see much difference with the wings.
Same here, I was underwhelmed by the wings and think the standard loops do a great job. My Phantom pulls a Glock 22 with a TLR-1 in really close and makes it concealable under a button down shirt (as long as I don't bend over, but I don't think there's a solution to that). I actually thought that the standard loops might have done a better job because there's no flex to them at all, but I can't say I ever objectively measured a difference. One thing the wings have going for them is ease of threading a belt through, especially an Ares ranger belt with it's two pieces.
davidjinks
01-20-18, 19:19
Thank you everyone for your responses. I guess I’ll save the money on the wings and forego them.
Another question for you RCS guys...
Are there specific loops for the light bearing holsters vs. the standard Phantoms? I could’ve sworn I saw on their website they have loops for the light bearing holster but I cannot find where I read that.
I have both l.b. & non l.b. Phantoms, & the loops are identical betwixt both models.
davidjinks
01-21-18, 05:32
Thank you!
I have both l.b. & non l.b. Phantoms, & the loops are identical betwixt both models.
The wings can be mounted a few different ways to control the amount they pull the holster to your side. They make the overall package pretty wide though, so if you have a small waist (I don't) you may be worse off.
Are there specific loops for the light bearing holsters vs. the standard Phantoms? I could’ve sworn I saw on their website they have loops for the light bearing holster but I cannot find where I read that.
My LB Phantoms do have different loops than non. Edit, here are pictures.
Phantom on left, Phantom Light Bearing on right. Notice the taller ramped loop.
https://i.imgur.com/ll0c4Ic.jpg
Both loops of a standard Phantom, notice one is beveled or ramped, one is flat.
https://i.imgur.com/z2wRq8J.jpg
Both loops of a Light Bearing Holster, notice both loops are beveled or ramped.
https://i.imgur.com/VIchpVp.jpg
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