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Slater
01-14-18, 16:02
Considering the roasting that the RP9 handgun has taken over the last year, some thought that Remington might just throw in the towel on the whole thing. Browsing the new catalog, evidently they've decided to proceed with the RP45 variant so maybe things aren't as dire as originally thought. Looks like they're still milking the 870 shotgun and 700 rifle actions for any mileage they can get.:

https://remington-catalog.com/catalogs/remington/2018/

Firefly
01-14-18, 16:06
Poor Remington.

1300s are still the most Chad Pump Action out there. OOP for a while aside from a spattering of special runs. Still sought after

FlyingHunter
01-14-18, 16:17
They still make good electric razors

Slater
01-14-18, 16:18
Winchester is producing the Defender these days, slightly modified from the older 1300's, though.

Firefly
01-14-18, 16:26
Winchester is producing the Defender these days, slightly modified from the older 1300's, though.

True but it doesn't look the same.

Screw Remington upside down and in the ear. Get a Winchester 70 Pre 64 and get a life!

Beridded myself of all Remington anything and life can't possibly be better. They just dont care anymore.

MountainRaven
01-14-18, 22:51
Winchester is producing the Defender these days, slightly modified from the older 1300's, though.

And made in Turkey, instead of New England.

Slater
01-15-18, 08:32
An article describing the newer SXP:

https://www.americanhunter.org/articles/2011/1/7/winchester-super-x-pump/


The SXP is not a Turkish-designed gun with an American brand. It’s a gun made to Winchester’s specifications in Turkey. The new gun combines the lines of the popular Super X3 semi-auto, the old fast-pumping action, and several significant improvements over the old model. Says Glenn Hatt, Winchester product manager: “This gun will function better than any 1300 ever made.”

Available in black synthetic, the 1300 takes styling cues from the Super X3. The stock has the X3’s semi-Cubist pattern of lines and planes. Red W’s here and there decorate the stock and receiver, and it even has replicas of the X3’s Quadra-Vent in the forearm. Of course, gas vents on a pump serve no purpose; they’re like the chromed, fake vent holes on the sides of 1950s cars.

More significantly, the SXP has the X3’s rib profile and stock dimensions, a near-parallel comb arrangement that fits many shooters. It also has the soft “Inflex” recoil pad with a hard insert on the heel found on the X3 and Browning Maxus semi-autos. The barrel is bored to Browning’s standard overbore of .742, and the gun takes Invector-Plus chokes.

Among the changes to improve the durability of the SXP is the elimination of the distinctive “fishtail,” V-shaped joint between the head of the stock and the rear of the receiver. The new straight-line joint is much stronger, while the receiver itself is made of aircraft-grade aluminum that is tougher than the impact-extruded aluminum of the old guns. Inside, the action bars and the plate upon which the bolt sits have been made from three pieces into one. Not only does that make the gun much easier to take apart—you can remove the action bars and bolt as one piece—it eliminates a source of wiggle and wear that was a weakness of the old design.

kwelz
01-16-18, 18:08
So the biggest things I am seeing here is they shoved a Box magazine into their 870s and have a new chassis system for the 700. Still no ACR, still nothing innovative. RIP Remington..

RetroRevolver77
01-16-18, 18:52
So the biggest things I am seeing here is they shoved a Box magazine into their 870s and have a new chassis system for the 700. Still no ACR, still nothing innovative. RIP Remington..


You could say the same thing about the entire US firearms industry. Everyone makes AR's, 1911's, Glock knock-off's, pump shotguns, bolt guns, revolvers etc. It's all the same stuff over and over again. Nothing truly innovative at all it seems other than accessories or optics. That's why I started collecting stuff from over seas- just for something different.

Slater
01-16-18, 19:24
Didn't bolt gun technology peak with World War I?

Kain
01-16-18, 19:32
I think for many they having issues watching what amounts to a washed up actress trying to still be relevant and failing miserably. It is sad and pathetic, and macabrely engrossing in the same way a train wreck is. We want them to stop it, but that little demon inside is too busy whacking off to it.


Didn't bolt gun technology peak with World War I?

Depends I suppose on what model you consider to be the peak of the tech. Either between Beginning of WWI and the mid 30's as far as a general issue fighting bolt action. By the start of WWII I would say they were pretty obsolescent and Obsolete by the end.

Outlander Systems
01-16-18, 19:43
Not gonna lie. I belly laughed at this.


Didn't bolt gun technology peak with World War I?