Ted Nugent; too much? Not enough?

[wetidlerjr]

Ted Nugent says Parkland students calling for gun control have "no soul"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ted-nugent-says-parkland-students-calling-for-gun-control-have-no-soul-nra/

Let me know. Not just on the above comment but the man in general. Love him, hate him or don't care?
Does he speak for you or does he speak too much? Does he help or hurt?

[RetroRevolver77]

Insulting children always goes over well with the public but I wouldn't exactly call them children- more like goose stepping fascists.

[Honu]

but kids who insult adults also need to learn some respect ? so cuts both ways

today's kids are like nazi youth that think its there job to insult stupid adults and do not need to show respect etc..
cause adults are stupid and do not know anything compared to their world views

again would love to drop those kids in Honduras :) see how they fair in Ceiba or San Pedro Sula for a week with the mouths they have hahahahahahahahahha :)

if that punk fl kid is doing what he is doing its fair play the left attacked trumps kid who is what 12 or something ? and he was not putting himself out but that was OK for the left to do etc..

sorry kids who try to think they are being big boy adults then try to hide behind I am just a kid
needs to have a serious humiliation in public somehow :) and hope he gets his soon

[R6436]

Didn't use the link, I only deal with CBS when I'm being paid to at work so going by the sub-title of the thread.

Personally I'm tired of both sides being hyperbolic, not just on FL but the majority of coverage of just about everything. When everything is sensational then nothing is. Outlets that use over the top language often I stop listening to/watching anymore. The Constitution is too important of a topic IMHO for either side to keep playing up the emotional responses from people. I don't feel there can ever be a reasonable, sensible discussion if both sides continue trying to get reactions to support their side from people. The Bill of Rights is just that, but I don't think there will ever be agreement not to touch it (and remove ALL restrictions on it) until people stop sensationalizing and think clearly about it.

I also feel that the double standards are getting nauseating. If kids want to play in the adult arena then they and the adults supporting them need to understand they are as fair game as opposing adults are. That being said, adults need to act like adults and stop being childish in "attacks" on the kids.

Just my two cents, my apologies for the text wall.

[Averageman]

I think he has a very valuable point.
I think opinion without the experience, study and the intellectual sweat invested is useless to the point of being counterproductive.
The Left in it support of both Socialist and Communist ideals fly's in the face of history and reality.
The history of the twentieth century is filled with examples of how the push toward a totalitarian government can only be achieved when the citizens are disarmed.
These demands in any form should be fought at any and every level.
Pushing forward teenage spokesman and then demanding that they are above reproach only speaks to the weakness of their argument.
Yes, you may think Mr Nugent abrasive, but life isn't easy. When you stand up, puff out your chest and go all anti freedom someone needs to call you out on it.
Always remember, in a time of emergency and when people needed help, when he actually could have been key to making a horrible situation a little better,...Hogg left the scene to get a camera and didn't return to the scene until several hours later.
That's no "Hero".

[Bubba FAL]

One lesson David "Camera" Hogg could stand to learn is if you're going to talk smack like a man you should be prepared to get smacked down like a man. Impudent little boy...

[Hmac]

I don't dislike him...he speaks his mind and makes some good points. But yes, too much.

[Boba Fett v2]

I support a lot of the ideals he stands for, but for the most part he's a douche.

[hotrodder636]

I am just tired about seeing Hogg and his prison guard girlfriend every time I see any news.

Is Uncle Ted over the top sometimes? Yes. Does he say what many of us think? Yes. Is he brash and coarse? Yes.
He is out there saying it though and I do agree with much of what he says just maybe not how he says it.

[LMT Shooter]

....... The Constitution is too important of a topic IMHO for either side to keep playing up the emotional responses from people. I don't feel there can ever be a reasonable, sensible discussion if both sides continue trying to get reactions to support their side from people. The Bill of Rights is just that, but I don't think there will ever be agreement not to touch it (and remove ALL restrictions on it) until people stop sensationalizing and think clearly about it.

I also feel that the double standards are getting nauseating. If kids want to play in the adult arena then they and the adults supporting them need to understand they are as fair game as opposing adults are. That being said, adults need to act like adults and stop being childish in "attacks" on the kids.



I agree with you 100%. The problem is that all anti-gun arguments require ignoring the facts regarding the Second Amendment, and rely heavily on emotions & feelings, so I don't believe we'll ever get there. Most pro-gun folks are highly emotional about it as well, I know I sure am.

And if these youngsters wanna play political games, they'll have to deal with the shitty parts of it. Nobody forced them to be activists.

[Hmac]

Is Uncle Ted over the top sometimes? Yes. Does he say what many of us think? Yes. Is he brash and coarse? Yes.
He is out there saying it though and I do agree with much of what he says just maybe not how he says it.
Which makes him, in some ways, counterproductive.

[Defaultmp3]

Here's a couple of old Tactical Forums posts from a respected source (a personal friend of Stephen Hilliard over at BFG) about some negative interactions a SEAL had with Ted Nugent:

Two years ago my wife and I attended the SHOT Show in Orlando, FL. After a couple days of walking the show Mrs. Frogman was a little sluggish getting up in the morning. It was strongly suggested by her that I go get our morning coffee while she caught a few more Z's. I cautioned that she may miss something by sleeping in as more often than not I had run into someone interesting; a celebrity or whathaveyou, at that particular Starbuck's. This mere tantalizing factoid would not budge the woman, however, and so I was off to retrieve caffeine alone. I ordered our drinks and stood at the drink pick-up area patiently awaiting our elixirs when Ted Nugent, his wife, and someone I presumed to be his daughter walked in. Never one to fawn on celebrities I feigned ignorance as to who he was and continued my vigil waiting for the drinks.

As I was on leave at the time, I had a couple weeks growth of beard and was wearing average civilian clothing. Ted initiated a friendly conversation about nothing in particular with me after signing a couple of autographs for patrons and sitting with his family next to where I stood. His wife glanced at me from behind her morning paper where she had conveniently hid out while he signed the autograph or two before seating himself and engaging me in idle chit chat. She gave me a brief once over and returned to her paper, intent on dismissing me, as well. About this time Ted asked me if I was in town for the SHOT Show and I told him I was. He said he was, too, and that he was an avid hunter. I told him that that was nice. He asked me if it was the first time I had been to SHOT and I told him, "No", that I had been several times before. He asked why I had been so many times and I simply told him that "my work sent me nearly every year." He pressed me further about what I did and I told him "I was in the Navy".

At this point I was aware of the newspaper dipping slightly behind him and saw only one of his wife's eyes above the paper examining me once more, but more carefully this time. Then the single eye disappeared behind the paper once more, apparently satisfied that something interesting may develop here after all. Oblivious to his wife, Ted extended his hand and said that his name was "Ted". I returned the favor and he began to tell me how he had trained Navy SEALs. I was amazed. "Really?", I said. "What do you do for a living that allows you to train those guys?" The newspaper slowly began to lower again and a curious grin crossed his wife's face. He said nothing of his rock life-style, in fact he never mentioned his full name. But he went on and on about how he had trained SEALs often as well as Secret Service Agents and a whole host of other high speed characters. As his wife crossed her arms and grinned a "I knew this day was coming grin", I began to fill out my mental scorecard by asking....

"Who did you train?" (SEALs, Secret Service, Cops..etc...heavy emphasis on SEALs.

"When did you train them?" (Vague answer.)

"Where did you train them?" (Texas somewhere)

And then came the famous:

"What are some of the SEALs names?" "Oh, you wouldn't know them.", he said.

"Sure, I would", I said. "I've been a SEAL for about 20 years. Lay some names on me."

A look of horror and panic hit his face as he stumbled for words and couldn't come up with a single name. [Embarrassed] His wife beamed in the background clearly amused at this development. I let him dangle, clearly embarrassed for a while until I thought he'd had enough. Then I changed the subject to his favorite pistol cartridge the 10mm and 1911's. He eagerly took that bait in order to drop the previous subject. By then my drinks were up and I departed. I couldn't help it, though, when I got to my car. I fished out one of my official business cards and went back to the store. In front of his wife I gave it to him and said something to the effect of, "Well, if you're ever passing through Virginia and you want to really shoot with a SEAL here's how to get hold of me." His wife was in total bliss as he took my card.

Some of you may remember that this was early 2006 and Mrs. Frogman was busy trying to raise money to help the families of the guys we lost on June 28, 2005. When I told her the story she was miffed at herself for missing it by sleeping in. She also felt like she had an in with ol' Ted because he had grossly exaggerated his affiliation with SEALs and she was hopeful that he would do something to chip in when it came to helping real SEAL widows and such. He never returned her e-mail, nor did he ever call me. But that would NOT be the last time I ran into ol' Ted Nugent. Stand-by for part two....

Frogman
The world moves in a circle, to be sure. Now, I am not a Buddhist, but I do believe what comes around goes around. If that qualifies for "karma", so be it. The thing is, I have also noticed that when it comes around there seems to be a little more energy on it than when it left. Where does the increase in speed come from? I do not know. But I've seen it enough in my own life to respect it. Vent bad stuff into the world, bad stuff comes back to you...just a bit harder than you sent it. That's my motto.

Ted Nugent pushed in a direction before me that sent the energy around the mysterious galactic "sphere" in Orlando during the SHOT Show there in 2007. The energy returned to Ted (and I, for that matter) on April 19, 2008 this very year in Roswell, New Mexico this time (around noon, if you're doing the math Nostradamus-style.., and don't forget the time changes, you slide-rule wielding astrophysicists). Ironically, the setting was another Starbuck's. (Einstein just bumped his head on the inside of his coffin...did you hear that?).

I was in town to work with some local law enforcement folks for a couple weeks. While accompanying a local policeman to a hardware store in Roswell for some supplies I spied a flier announcing that Ted Nugent was going to speak at some fundraiser in the near future in Roswell. After consulting both the flier and my watch I divined that he would be in Roswell to speak the very next day.

I recall my remark to my colleague while we were still in the hardware store, "Say, when we're done here...remind me to tell you my "Ted Nugent Story".

Now, those of you that know me, and probably many of you who don't by now know that I consider a Starbuck's- any Starbuck's, to function as an unofficial embassy for me. That said, it is terribly difficult for me to simply pass one up. I believe at least 2 hours had passed since my last cup of coffee at the time, so I threw the "red star cluster", as it were, and diverted my host to the nearest Starbuck's on Main Street post haste. This, of course, was in order that I might both fulfill my wish to enhance my caffeination level as well as the potential to buy my friend (who was an "espresso newby") a drink which would induce sweat, sudden heart palpitations, and put him at great risk of unduly trusting a fart in uniform.

In record time all of these prophecies were fulfilled ( )...with the curious inclusion of yet one more...that being, the "Ted factor".

Beads of sweat were just forming on the forehead of my new friend as I wrapped up the story I have already related in Part One to you all to him. I happily stepped from the cool AC of the Starbuck's into the hot desert air with my partner picking his steps carefully behind me in the way that only one who has newly acquired a hyper active colon can relate to and what did I spy to my right as I scanned for threats and eye candy?

A monster truck...

...slowly departing the Starbuck's pick-up window...

...driven by none other than Ted Nugent!!!

"Hey, Ted!", I called, as the truck pulled away.

In response, my call was met by the curious melded sound of my gastrically challenged partner shuffling nearby and the chirping of big truck tires.

(Aha!!! I had him. )

The truck backed up a few feet and there hung Ted from the window ledge of the driver's side like a recently expended jack-in-the box. Some Ted-flunky proudly sat in the passenger seat and looked on.

"Hey, fellas. Good to see you law-types around. I've got your back while I'm in town", he said and later repeated several times.

"Golly, Mr. Nugent it is so great to see you,", said my friend, (or something like that).

Today, instead of sporting two weeks of beard growth, I was wearing 8 months of beard hair and replied from behind it....

"Hey, Ted...you don't remember me, do you? I spoke to you at the Starbuck's in Orlando at SHOT in '07. You were telling me how you trained Navy SEALs."

And with that, his mouth went off like it was a race.

"Oh, yeah. I train SEALS all the time."

"I deployed with SEALs to Fallujah and showed them how I could shoot terrorists over 2,000 yards away with a .408 Cheytac (because that's what they use, of course)."

"I actually killed some badguys there....so, you know. I got your back here."

And on and on...until.

"Hey, Ted. You really don't remember me, do you? You don't remember my business card? You know you're full of s^%&, right?"

" ", said his face.

And with that we received a pause, a tip of the hat, a "good to see you law-types", a "gotta go", and the chirp of big tires.

And he was "out".

Now, I don't know about how you all feel. But in my book he still hasn't made this right. Probably not capable. But if someone out there figured out the math for this karmic equation, please PM me and inform me when I'll be running into ol' Ted again.

Apparently, some folks are doomed to repeat the mistakes they've made.

Frogman

[The_War_Wagon]

Ted Nugent says Parkland students calling for gun control have "no soul"

And...???


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[Averageman]

And...???


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And regardless of whatever Mr Nugent might or might not have done in the past, I believe he is on point on this one.
The Right wants everyone with a conservative opinion to have a history that includes spotless integrity and to have lived without a single sin.
We even knock those who would carry our banner forward because of a supposed or perceived indiscretion twenty or more years ago.

But the left, they totally disregard all of that and move the agenda forward as a united front regardless.

And we wonder why were getting our assessment kicked?

[Honu]

I did not vote :) but guess I could care less I believe in ultimate freedom :)

did enjoy the quoted stories above hahahahahah I can totally see that happening to with people like him they tend to live in a personal show state of life and cant seem to break free

the old ya never know who are you are talking with to etc..

[usmcvet]

Ted Nugent says Parkland students calling for gun control have "no soul"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ted-nugent-says-parkland-students-calling-for-gun-control-have-no-soul-nra/

Let me know. Not just on the above comment but the man in general. Love him, hate him or don't care?
Does he speak for you or does he speak too much? Does he help or hurt?

Nugent is a Wind Bag! I tune him out immediately whenever I hear him speak.


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[Dist. Expert 26]

If he wants to be a pro-2A voice that's awesome. I think his offensive nature is refreshing to be honest.

On a personal level he's a douche. His "expertise" with firearms is limited to shooting deer and full auto mag dumps.

[Honu]

he is entertainment :) not to be taken serious

[matemike]

I don't dislike him...he speaks his mind and makes some good points. But yes, too much.

Couldn't have said this better myself!

I have learned some things on his hunting shows, mostly about archery stuff and meat preparation/storage. But I scoff at many other ideals he has and things he says. Although even when I do scoff I am glad that the ideals are on my side of things and not opposite. I'll put it this way, with his radical mouth, I sure am glad he's on our side of things because he is "too much" sometimes. I know the libs hate him...cool I guess.