View Full Version : Talk me into, or out of, buying a 10mm
Guys, help me out. I don't "need" a 10mm. My .45s are good for the range, and I carry 9mm for self-protection.
But I just "want" a 10mm. I know ammo's expensive, but I could afford to shoot it occasionally. I've just never hd one and it sounds cool.
So can y'all weigh in?
Hey, I hear you brother...
If you want to experience the 10mm without spending a small fortune...get yourself a Glock in 10mm. They are awesome. I had no need for one. No practical use for one, but I got on and enjoyed it and then...sold it.
Life is short. Enjoy.
what will it do that your current pistols won't? Do you like .40S&W? if you don't then don't buy a 10mm as it is .40S&W on steroids(when loaded as 10mm should be). Originally I bought one as a woods gun, but found my .357 magnums did just as good if not better as a field gun and cost a lot less to shoot. If you are simply buying it as a range toy then why even ask? No need to dignify range toy purchases, just buy it and shoot it.
Why not? Not every gun has to be justified if you can afford it. I have several arms "just because." Mainly for historical or family significance, and a couple just because they are fun. Shooting can be a hobby like anything else. Otherwise all us would own Glocks and 6920s and STFU. :D Enjoy it!
I have a S&W 1006.
Shooting it is literally the happiest a firearm has ever made me feel. Sharp but comfortable recoil, lots of noise but not ear shattering, and a chest thump that makes you smile without getting that "wtf?" (but still great) feeling a .50 Deagle gives you.
They're range toys - no way I'd want a plastic fantastic G29, I want something with mass and spring rates to offset the power, but I think everyone should own at least one. If you don't like it, I promise you can sell it for a good price.
I have 3 10mms, a 29, 20 and a Delta Elite. I LOVE them all. They are just plain fun to shoot. I bought them as woods protection/ hunting guns. They are a ton of fun, the power and accuracy of a 10 is something to behold. I am of the opinion that everyone should have atleast one magnum caliber handgun, and IMHO, the 10mm qualifies. If you are getting it for a just because, I would get the Glock 20, or 40. My 20 has less recoil than my Delta, it is lighter, and holds 2x the ammo. If you must have a 1911, the Delta would do fine. It is one of the most versatile cartridges in an auto-pistol platform. If you are willing to deal with the cost of ammo, I reload, there really isn't a down side. Good luck, with your decision.
Achilles11B
04-13-18, 08:29
As others have stated, it really is a lot of fun to shoot. Available ammunition runs the gamut of power levels, from .40 to hand howitzer. Reloading will soften the blow of ammo costs. I’m working on a 10mm Glock project and am looking forward to being able to hit the range with it.
It is a urban myth today that 10 MM ammo is expensive:
https://www.sgammo.com/catalog/pistol-ammo-sale/10mm-auto-ammo
You need to know though that most of the ammo available today is not the fire breathing dragon loads that were available when it first came out.
It is a urban myth today that 10 MM ammo is expensive:
https://www.sgammo.com/catalog/pistol-ammo-sale/10mm-auto-ammo
You need to know though that most of the ammo available today is not the fire breathing dragon loads that were available when it first came out.
IMHO, if you are not going to shoot full power ammo and use it for hunting, why really bother with it, as it still always goes back to bullet placement.
I was just in the same boat and I bought a Glock 40 10mm. Knowing I can run 40S&W through the Glock 10mm will ease my ammo cost concern. And before anyone says you can't fire 40 S&W in a Glock 10mm a lot are doing it without a glitch. (Not endorsed by Glock and my opinion only).
I have a G20. It's huge and I rarely shoot it. But it's powerful and capable.
I'm hanging on to it for now, but doubt I would buy one again if I had it to do over.
10mm's are awesome. Semi auto equivalent to .357 mag. Buy one, and buy some Underwood ammo and have a blast!
I have a S&W 1006.
Shooting it is literally the happiest a firearm has ever made me feel. Sharp but comfortable recoil, lots of noise but not ear shattering, and a chest thump that makes you smile without getting that "wtf?" (but still great) feeling a .50 Deagle gives you.
They're range toys - no way I'd want a plastic fantastic G29, I want something with mass and spring rates to offset the power, but I think everyone should own at least one. If you don't like it, I promise you can sell it for a good price.
Nice, I picked up a 1066 a couple years ago and love it. It did cost a pretty penny though.
A hot load through a 10mm is actually more powerful than a .357. It can approach a weak. 44 magnum.
Correct, most commercially available ammunition isn’t pushed to the extreme. You either need to handload, or go with underwood or buffalo bore. The good commercial 10mm stuff still does pretty well though compared to the usual auto calibers.
Edited: There IS a good reason the 10mm with hot loads is becoming the “bear gun” of choice up in AK. A hot load with a 200-220 grain hard cast lead round is pretty potent. It kicks less than a .44 Mag so you have good shot placement if you have to dump several rounds in a charging Griz.
I got a G20 and have no regrets. It is my camping, and walking in the woods gun.
MY biggest mistake in getting that, is that I still want a 1911. Now... rather than just going with the flow in buying a .45, I’m thinking of getting one in 10mm. Sigh. It never ends.
A hot load through a 10mm is actually more powerful than a .357. It can approach a weak. 44 magnum.
Correct, most commercially available ammunition isn’t pushed to the extreme. You either need to handload, or go with underwood or buffalo bore. The good commercial 10mm stuff still does pretty well though compared to the usual auto calibers.
Edited: There IS a good reason the 10mm with hot loads is becoming the “bear gun” of choice up in AK. A hot load with a 200-220 grain hard cast lead round is pretty potent. It kicks less than a .44 Mag so you have good shot placement if you have to dump several rounds in a charging Griz.
I got a G20 and have no regrets. It is my camping, and walking in the woods gun.
MY biggest mistake in getting that, is that I still want a 1911. Now... rather than just going with the flow in buying a .45, I’m thinking of getting one in 10mm. Sigh. It never ends.
Yep, I carry a 10mm with Underwood 220 hard cast in black bear country. Or my .357 mag with hard casts, or federal jacketed soft points which are actually hard and behave like hard casts.
Honestly though, a 10mm isn't anywhere near .44 mag territory, maybe somewhere in between .357 and a weak .41 mag.
BuzzinSATX
04-13-18, 17:21
I want a 1911 in 10mm.
Ruger, Colt, and Springfield all come to mind as good choices. All are not the same quality and finish, but neither are their prices.
Personally, I want one too. I keep thinking I'm going to get a Glock 20 Gen 4 to match my G21-G4 that I really like for the range and Boonies, but with Underwood 255Gr +P hard cast bullets for the boonies, I have a hard time putting out the money.
So among Ruger, Colt, or Springfield, which one is best?
(Maybe Molly's carrying a 10mm. See avatar.)
I just did it last week, picked up a Glock 20 gen4. Woods gun, I have some old Silvertips for it and some Underwood coming. .40 for plinking.
I want a 1911 in 10mm.
Go nuts. I have 9 10mm guns through so I might not be the one to ask. Only one of them is a 1911 though(colt delta elite).
BuzzinSATX
04-13-18, 20:50
So among Ruger, Colt, or Springfield, which one is best?
(Maybe Molly's carrying a 10mm. See avatar.)
Best? Or most expensive?
The Ruger 1911 series is solid and good value...
The Colt isa great choice...middle ground.. . The SA TRP is sweet but most costly...
All will work...none are best at everything...IMO...
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Lots of 10 mm handguns out there now, the Dan Wesson is a really nice 1911 but pricey, and the Sig 220 is available in 10 also. And the S&W 10xx series is still a viable option but mags are no longer made and getting pricey.
Colt Delta Elite
Dan Wesson RZ-10
EAA Witness P Carry
Glock Flat Dark Earth Gen 4 Full-Size Pistol
Kimber Eclipse Custom II
Para USA Elite LS Hunter
Remington 1911 R1 Semi-automatic Hunter LS
Rock Island Armory TAC Ultra MS
Sig Sauer P220
Wilson Combat Classic
Gunnar da Wolf
04-14-18, 09:13
I carried a 1006 for a few years when my agency issued them. FWIW 10mm Silvertips put injured deer down better than .357 Silvertips did.
I recently scratched my 10mm itch with a Ruger SR1911 and couldn’t be happier. I reload but 10mm ammo is available and reasonably priced compared to .357/.41/.44 which it equates to.
It is a urban myth today that 10 MM ammo is expensive.
Absolutely correct
I got into 10mm after a decade of shooting hot 38 super before it was cool. (Bought my first commander in super around 79 or so). I 2as shooting metallic silhouette pistol, and was playing with semis just for fun. You really see how wimpy 45 gets very quickly, plus drop. Don't even think about 9.
My baseline was to duplicate 4" 357 ballistics in a semi. When 10mm & 1911 had its their first fall from favor when the Wonder nines came out in the early 80s I bought an SS Delta Elite dirt cheap and have been shooting a ten ever since.
People really underestimate the 10mm flexibility, you can go super hot and approach 41 magnum. Go light and hot and you can easily duplicate 357. (Or beat it) Go heavy and slow it down a bit and it shoots just like a 45 with almost identical ballistics.
I get bulk 40 caliber bullets for almost nothing, close to 9mm prices and significantly cheaper than 45. I can use fast powders like the 45 uses for lite plinking loads like 9/40. Use powders like blue dot for a little bit more steam, Or get into the Magnum powders for really hot stuff.
I don't do it because I have a ton of 10mm brass, but even 1911 Shooters are shooting 40 in 10mm 1911 barrels with no problems. I wouldn't advise it casually, and have considered getting a 40 Barrel, but it's just too easy for me to reload 10mm.
We are now in the third rise of 10mm in popularity. I'm sure it'll fall again and rise again my kids get my guns..
The Dumb Gun Collector
04-14-18, 11:30
It is a fantastic addition to any gun collection. 10mm isn’t a great fit for daily carry guns, but man what a gun when you need a gun.
Asking a board full of enablers to stop you from buying a 10......LOL!
IIRC Colt might get hurt with the full power stuff? I would like to try a G20, and a G29 as I am a Glock fanboi. My first 10 will cost less than $400 https://www.ammoland.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Hi-Point-10mm-Camo-600x389.jpg?24c83b
How do you get away with varying the energy of the load so much? If I load it to full house spec, certainly it'll operate the action. But if I download significantly, won't that cause problems with cycling, e.g. stove-piping? What gives here?
How do you get away with varying the energy of the load so much? If I load it to full house spec, certainly it'll operate the action. But if I download significantly, won't that cause problems with cycling, e.g. stove-piping? What gives here?I've downloaded way below 40 velocities with light bullets and 231 and had it not fully cycle. Bumped it up a bit, and no problems. Pretty wide range though with factory springs. I know some go up on the springs.
Back when I first got into 10mm (mid 80s?) all the "no hot loads in colts" stuff was not around, nor were fully supported chambers a thing. I reloaded to maximums, it was pretty much all I shot.flat primers and all.
Now I keep it milder unless hunting or defense loads.
What velocity do you recommend in 180 grain FMJ?
So, if I can choose between the Ruger 1911 and the Colt Delta Elite 1911, which one should I pick up?
ginzomatic
04-16-18, 12:08
Can't help on the 1911 variety, but I have a G20 and love it. Once that Noveske 10mm PDW drops, I'll be buying one and a Ghost-M for it. 10mm is an awesome round, go for it
I am reading claims of 1700fps on 17.5" barrels with the 10mm 180gr
Thanks for all the input. I acquired a Springfield Operator 10mm. Traded around and got it w/o spending much cash. I need to head for the range now!
Cagemonkey
04-16-18, 19:34
Would love to see some REVOLVERS in 10 mm like the S&W 610 w/5 inch barrel. Ruger goes out and puts out a GP100 in .44 Special w/5 shoot cylinder. WTF. How about 10 mm. Just my 2 cents FWIW.
Would love to see some REVOLVERS in 10 mm like the S&W 610 w/5 inch barrel. Ruger goes out and puts out a GP100 in .44 Special w/5 shoot cylinder. WTF. How about 10 mm. Just my 2 cents FWIW.
Chiappa Rhino is available in .40. I wonder if there is enough on the cylinder to go 10mm?
Would love to see some REVOLVERS in 10 mm like the S&W 610 w/5 inch barrel. Ruger goes out and puts out a GP100 in .44 Special w/5 shoot cylinder. WTF. How about 10 mm. Just my 2 cents FWIW.
Was the 610 offered in a 5 inch barrel? When I bought mine on one of the last runs they had just shorter than 4 inches and a 6 inch barrel. I will say the 6 inch 610 is one of my favorite guns. Handles the 10mm great and is very accurate. I ended up buying the ruger when it came out last year and the difference is night and day. The ruger has a shittier fit and finish, is heavier, and has more recoil.
I wish smith and wesson would do anothe run. I'd pick up a 3.whatever inch model and another 6 inch.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/FHUwFN.jpg
Yeah Ruger screwed the pooch with the 10 MM in a Super Redhawk, I don't understand the reasoning of the marketing departments of S&W or Ruger. IMO their idea that people only want huge heavy revolvers in 10 is just wrong, if they could/would make a 6 shot L frame or GP100 it would sell like hotcakes.
Cagemonkey
04-17-18, 19:21
Was the 610 offered in a 5 inch barrel? When I bought mine on one of the last runs they had just shorter than 4 inches and a 6 inch barrel. I will say the 6 inch 610 is one of my favorite guns. Handles the 10mm great and is very accurate. I ended up buying the ruger when it came out last year and the difference is night and day. The ruger has a shittier fit and finish, is heavier, and has more recoil.
I wish smith and wesson would do anothe run. I'd pick up a 3.whatever inch model and another 6 inch.
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/FHUwFN.jpgI don't know about the 5" barrel. Would have to look it up. I feel that 5" is a good compromise between 4 and 6. I agree. Would love to see S&W produce the 610 again.
Cagemonkey
04-17-18, 19:22
Yeah Ruger screwed the pooch with the 10 MM in a Super Redhawk, I don't understand the reasoning of the marketing departments of S&W or Ruger. IMO their idea that people only want huge heavy revolvers in 10 is just wrong, if they could/would make a 6 shot L frame or GP100 it would sell like hotcakes.
My thoughts EXACTLY!!
OK, 10mm / .40 RCBS dies arrived today. Now to secure bullets and some brass (probably Starline) and get to work.
I started in 10mm with a Glock G40 mos. Out of the box it’s set up for hotter loads. Hope to get a 10mm 1911 or P220 one day.
I know a lot of people say if you don’t shoot hot 10mm you’re wasting your time. I personally like having the option of getting cheap 10mm for just a buck or two over .45acp and still being able to run some Underwood out of the same gun.
The biggest downside is the few choices in handguns. Glock, EAAWitness and the 1911s seem to be the most common semi auto loaders. I can get an EAA Witness in 10 mm for under $500 but the cheapest 10mm 1911s are the RIAs for $600 and the Ruger for $800, everything else is a grand or more.
I've noticed that 10mm ammo comes in three flavors, more or less:
1. Full-power hot loads that mimic the original Norma. 700+ foot pounds energy.
2. Mid-level loads. 600+_ foot pounds.
3. Duplicates of .40 S&W loads.
I think #3 is a waste of time, why'd I buy a Springfield Operator to shoot those? I will start out loading around #2 performance and see how it goes. I have a powder that'll work, and when the slugs and brass arrive, I'll get to work on it.
I think 10mm is a fun round, I got a Glock 40 MOS and it’s a sweet shooter. Still trying to find an RMR for a reasonable price to mount on it. I say go for it
Buy a G20. You can't do much better than 15+1 10mm. I love mine.
I know you are working on the reload set-up but have you purchased any factory loads and shot it? I had some underwood loads (an fmj plinker) that I liked through my G20 and carried one of their mid power Gold dot type loads. I loved shooting it, didn't find recoil excessive and...... sold it. LOL. Not sure why. I guess I decided I don't "need" it. I never even bought the stuff to load for it like I usually do. I would have one again. Always considered the 1911 and then the Sig 220 to be sexier, though. Let us know!
Buy a G20. You can't do much better than 15+1 10mm. I love mine.
That, 100%.
Thanks for all the input. I acquired a Springfield Operator 10mm. Traded around and got it w/o spending much cash. I need to head for the range now!
Just quoting since folks seem to miss this.... Although, a glock ALSO isn't a bad idea.
RustyKnifeUSMC
04-29-18, 07:33
This thread is relevant to me as I’ve been a little OCD over the past week or so about getting a Glock 10mm.
I’m leaning towards the Glock 40 MOS since I plan to use it primarily for hunting here in MO during our “alternative methods” deer season.
Question: If I get a Glock 40 MOS can I later get a Glock 20 slide that will work on the Glock 40 MOS?
Cagemonkey
04-29-18, 19:45
Looks like our prayers may have been answered; https://www.ammoland.com/2018/04/ruger-intros-gp100-match-champion-revolver-10mm-auto/#axzz5E70MGk9P
Yay! Bullets and brass arrived. Time to load up and shoot!
I started in 10mm with a Glock G40 mos. Out of the box it’s set up for hotter loads. Hope to get a 10mm 1911 or P220 one day.
Yeah... This is my dilemma now with having a G20. I was looking at a Dan Wesson RZ-10 that I could get at a decent price. I REALLY want a 1911 again, but have all but retired the idea of using a .45 again. Between a primary EDC of either a 9mm, .357 Sig or .357 Mag, I have not carried a .45 in 20+ years. Since I already have a 10mm that actually gets woods carry, I'm thinking a 10mm in 1911 would be the way to go... Oh well, no rush. I have no "need" for a 1911, but you all know how that goes.
Yeah... This is my dilemma now with having a G20. I was looking at a Dan Wesson RZ-10 that I could get at a decent price. I REALLY want a 1911 again, but have all but retired the idea of using a .45 again. Between a primary EDC of either a 9mm, .357 Sig or .357 Mag, I have not carried a .45 in 20+ years. Since I already have a 10mm that actually gets woods carry, I'm thinking a 10mm in 1911 would be the way to go... Oh well, no rush. I have no "need" for a 1911, but you all know how that goes.Shoot a 1911 in 10mm and you'll wonder what all the fuss about controllability was. I don't know what the FBI was shooting 10mm in (1076 or whatever???), But I find 10mm rolls less than 230g 45 does. Might sting the hand a bit more, but less wrist snap, especially with lighter (but much faster) bullets.
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