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What is your general opinion on apparel color for blending into urban settings? Do you think Wolf gray offers anything over black or is just a fad? What is more versatile?
My opinion is black is the worst color in every, time, place and situation.
Black stands out in almost every lighting condition, except total darkness in every environment.
Light olive drab, and tans will be less noticable everywhere. Gray blends far better than black everywhere, city scape, Suburban landscape or in the field as in woods and semi open areas.
Also, in camouflage being too dark is far worse then being a little too light. With lighter colors, just stepping into shadows will darken you up, but no amount of sunlight with darker colors will lighten you up. You will be just a big dark very noticeable blob for all to see.
Or put it another way. Thank deer. Look at how hard it is to see them, in the woods, fields, road, day or night. Because they are a nutrual natural color, shades of tan/gray/brown.
Speaking of deer, the color that stands out the most to me isn't the white on them. It's the black. I see the black first and the fastest.
But what do I know. I just spend alot of time outdoors. Oh and driving in probably the most deer populated county in Kentucky.
mkmckinley
04-17-18, 18:42
Blend in how? In an urban setting you're least noticeable if you look and act like everyone else around you.
Blending into the environment as in concealment? Or blending in with people?
You make some interesting points, where in Ky? Im from Lexington, a few miles from heavy deer population.
PB
HardToHandle
04-17-18, 21:10
What is your general opinion on apparel color for blending into urban settings? Do you think Wolf gray offers anything over black or is just a fad? What is more versatile?
Good example of Urban-specific Camo:
http://soldiersystems.net/2014/01/27/dispersal-dsp-camouflage/
Probably plaids in muted colors in most places.
Pappabear, I'm Oldham/Trimble area. Talking about deer, driving today I spotted ten. What I saw first Everytime? The black. 6 of the 10 in the darkness of the early morning. The other 4, was in day light. The black is what caught my eye first.
Defaultmp3
04-17-18, 21:38
Wolf Grey is probably too cool to work as actual straight urban camo: https://www.milspecmonkey.com/index.php/articles-page/63-articles/454-a-real-urban-grey
Maybe something like SDU Grey would be better. MAS Grey is probably too warm, and pretty close to ranger green as it is. That being said,
And let's face it, the modern urban environment has a lot of variation, simply due to the design of the modern urban environment, along with varying light conditions. MultiCam, Wolf, Ranger, all will probably work.
MI_Steve77
04-18-18, 08:14
Earth tones. Don’t use the same color head to toe. No bright colors or large logos. Subtle prints if you have any print at all. There are generally large solid blocks of color in cities as opposed to leafy woodland environs.
Blending into the environment as in concealment? Or blending in with people?
100% this. Just look normal.
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Outlander Systems
05-15-18, 19:57
Carhartt.
Levi’s.
Done.
I can tell you the best way to stick out is the wear FDE in a place other than the desert. Or anything that screams "tactical".
I just got rid of all my tactical gear and replaced with Haley Strategic gear because it doesn't scream "tactical" nor does it look like it belongs on a mercenary. I got the slim lo-viz plate carrier from Mayflower (Velocity) in black and a minimalistic D3 chest rig and 8X10 flat pack from Hale Strategic in disruptive grey (which might be comparable to Wolf grey). I replaced all the zipper pulls with Haley strategic zipper pulls in blue. My girlfriend actually thought it was some type of Northface back pack because of how minimalistic and non tactical it looks. You can barley see the plate carrier because the chest rig covers it completely. And overall, even though it only carries 3 magazines, it doesn't stick out more than 2 inches which means you can wear a jacket and not give the impression that your are prepared for anything. Great thing about this set up is that the swift clips allow the chest rig and flat back to attach directly to the plate carrier.
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Velocity Sytems (Mayflower) Low Viz plate carrier with Swiftclip system
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Haley Strategic D3 micro chest rig
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Haley Strategic D3 flat pack
With a ceramic level 3 plate, 3 loaded 30 round magazines, sure fire flashlight, camelback 1.5l bladder, my rig weighs in under 14 pounds and virtually unnoticeable under a jacket.
But having said all of that. I will say that I felt gray was a good color. Especially if you spice it up with different color zipper pulls - makes it look as my girlfriend put it " a north face back pack" which I'm sure everyone else would assume the same. Disruptive gray is not too dark yet not too light, its somewhere in between and grays are not too casual or too formal. You can wear it with anything and it goes with everything.
As far as clothes go. I wear Diesel jeans- regular fit, slim- non-tapered- indigo blue with a little distress. I generally wear a Gucci, Ferragamo or Louis Vuitton belt, solid non ironed single color long sleeve shirt- untucked, cuffs unbuttoned and rolled up 1 time, top button open, and To Boot New York designer athletic lace up shoes in gray suede or Cole Haan casual dress shoes. Where I live in Dallas, I look and dress like 98% of the men my age.
Good call on the Ferragamo belt, you'll blend right in! :-)
After watching a 2 hour documentary on Netflix on how they caught the Boston Bombers, it occurred to me how easy it is to stand out in a crowd of thousands. The FBI reviewed hundreds of videos looking for a few things: someone who was wearing a back pack, someone who was not interested in the marathon (standing around, hands in pocket), someone who was seen in multiple locations. Within hours the FBI had a profile on one of the suspects, a man age 25-30, wearing a Bridgestone hat, wearing sunglasses, grey hoodie, black jacket and wearing a backpack.
Rule of thumb: If everyone is wearing a suit and tie- you wear a suit and tie. If everyone is wearing athletic clothes and running shoes, you wear athletic clothes and running shoes. Never wear a large back pack, hoodie, hat and sunglasses in public simply because if something happens, you will be suspect #1.
I'm glad the Boston Bombers were caught but they were caught because they were simply wearing typical street clothes to a marathon that 90% of the spectators were wearing athletic attire.
To me, the way I dress isn't about blending in but about looking the part.
You make some interesting points, where in Ky? Im from Lexington, a few miles from heavy deer population.
PB
Pappabear, I'm Oldham/Trimble area. Talking about deer, driving today I spotted ten. What I saw first Everytime? The black. 6 of the 10 in the darkness of the early morning. The other 4, was in day light. The black is what caught my eye first.
I'm in Frankfort.
I'm in Frankfort.
BBN BBN !
voiceofreason
05-19-18, 09:39
Jeans, flannel or t shirt.
vicious_cb
06-07-18, 00:33
Dress like a 90's operator. Black jump boots, a field jacket, rayban sunglasses and a tactical beard.
http://cdn01.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/bernthal-beach/jon-bernthal-films-the-punisher-05.jpg
And everyone will just think you're a hipster. The perfect camouflage :cool:
http://s3cdn-test-lookbooknu.netdna-ssl.com/files/looks/large/2011/07/25/1435072_vulgaiiiiiiiirejpg.jpg?1311620000
I got my Original SOE EDC belt holding up a G19, & my Levi 559’s, covered by a t-shirt. My Haley Disruptive Grey flat pack carts the rest of my EDC gear. I wear the bag every day for almost two years now. I never get looked at twice. The pack has a small enough footprint that it’s almost unnoticeable in a crowd or in passing.
Only problem is now my wife calls it my purse, which it sadly is pretty accurate at this point. I consider it a urban camo color, and it works damn well without screaming Tacticool.
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