Your “State of the Art, Cutting Edge” handguns

[ramairthree]

That are maybe a little dated now.

My first intro to the M9/92FS was around 1988 when my Ranger Bn swapped out our M16A1s and 1911A1s for them and M16A2s. Our CAR-15 swap for A2 versions would come later. We also started getting green tip then, which made accuracy with the old twist rate CAR-15s.

Anyways, movies like Lethal Weapon and Die Hard coincided with this time period.

I bought a 92 a few years later.

I bought a 9x21 with compensator barrel and ammo for some matches in the early 90s so I could shoot “Major.” Meets of a dozen guys in a rural area then were not really where you would find a chronograph. In retrospect, I have found that my 9x21 ammo was more on par with 9mm NATO PF and not anywhere near major.

The later laser technologies lights had a switch extension that was stiff and held itself to the grip, similar to the models after They became Surefire. The first were a standard old school wired pressure switch that had to be attached to the grip. They typically became frayed. At some point most would end up without the wire and operated by the mount slide switch by the offhand thumb. Batteries then were a special connected one. They would with two 123s though.

Factory Beretta 20 round magazines used to be much longer than same capacity magazines now.

Anyways, in the mid 90s this was cutting edge.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/LCJuRcYGGplhlMkW2

[The Dumb Gun Collector]

It is funny how all that compensator stuff comes and goes. It seems to run in 5 year cycles.

[HeruMew]

Wow,

The original Roland Special, but without the optic.

Crazy, I will be honest, depending on your "few years later" after 1988, I may not have even been conceived yet. It truly brings to light how spoiled our generation is with technology. Beyond just the pocket computer that doesn't need wires but connects us to a global communications network in 75%+ of the world.

[ramairthree]

I did have an Aimpoint 1000 on another pistol about the time we got the M9s.

The switch finally broke five or ten years ago.

[ramairthree]

As noted in the original post,
The first versions had a typical wire to pressure pad that made an M9 grip even more awkward, and frayed and typically at some point would finally wear enough to break where the fame off the mount body. The light also came with a new takedown pin to hold it on, and a screw that put pressure against the front of the trigger guard.

Then the cable and pressure switch were replace by a rigid one as seen in the next picture.

Then that type of switch was kept, and Surefire put out a new model of light as also seen in the next picture. The take down pin replacement was no longer required. It had a new mounting system.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/JWACNfnxaEX9Xucp2

[ramairthree]

Other mounting systems followed, basically allowing any light to be put on. They essentially consisted of a way to put a rail on the M9.

Beretta started putting out frames with rails at some point.

I believe with the SD “super Dave” or special duty frames.

Also, the Vertec came out with a smaller overall grip also more close to 1911 grip angle, the rail, and a replaceable, front dovetail sight upper.

The 90-two also came with a rail, and updated look, and new recoil system.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/FKiY0ZgltwHfFZTV2

The M9A1 is essentially an M9 frame with a rail. Descended from the M9/92FS.

The 92A1 is essentially the recoil system of the 90-two, in a more M9/92FS styled gun, with a 92SB styled curved trigger guard.

The M9A3 is essentially a Vertec with optional grips to give it M9/92FS shape if wanted.

Compared to the CZ platform, from a similar era, it has little room to further evolve as a platform.
Beretta had trouble getting it to function well with a short barrel/upper,
And the trigger guard is so huge and the mag release so low, a true compact or subcompact frame is not feasible.

(When I say platform, with regards to a pistol, I mean it in the sense that say with Glock, CZ, XDM, etc. you can have a pistol platform with long target/hunting guns, suppressor hosts, game guns, service pistols, true compact carry guns, and subcompacts sharing magazine compatibility, etc.)

[yoni]

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Other than the RMR, it isn't that much different from my CZ.

The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[ramairthree]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/Qcd623vshPILOc522

[ramairthree]

https://photos.app.goo.gl/kmjRWozl7Zxlmx0A2

[RHINOWSO]

My first handgun, a SIG Sauer P220 American in 45, built in 1995 and still marked "Made in W. Germany". It had all the upgrades and was billed as the "most accurate and reliable 45 right out of the box".

Since the AWB was in full effect, it made no sense to go 9MM. The gun spoiled me because the only time in 4-5K rounds it failed were when a spring broke (likely past replacement limit, especially with dry fire). Replaced it and it's been great. I just figured all guns were supposed to work all of the time from jump.

Doesn't get much work these days, but once or twice a year some rounds at the range for nostalgia.

[ramairthree]

You know, I was waiting to see 5 or 6 inch upper 5906s, limited model third gen Smiths with rails, old game guns, early lights, your first Glock with a light, early lasers, and lots of other cool, dated but cool, stuff.

This is kind of disappointing.

I get not all of you are fellow silverback FAGs with old stuff, but come on.

[yoni]

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Now this is even more old school. I still have mine Colt Python6" barrel with a Ruger security six action job by the now out of business Davis company

[RHINOWSO]

You know, I was waiting to see 5 or 6 inch upper 5906s, limited model third gen Smiths with rails, old game guns, early lights, your first Glock with a light, early lasers, and lots of other cool, dated but cool, stuff.

This is kind of disappointing.

I get not all of you are fellow silverback FAGs with old stuff, but come on.

Sorry bro, ain't no silverback but regardless, I keep up with the times. ;)

[Arik]

You know, I was waiting to see 5 or 6 inch upper 5906s, limited model third gen Smiths with rails, old game guns, early lights, your first Glock with a light, early lasers, and lots of other cool, dated but cool, stuff.

This is kind of disappointing.

I get not all of you are fellow silverback FAGs with old stuff, but come on.Sorry man, I'm very basic. I don't typically follow trends and buy stuff that's been long ago proven. My first Glock was in 2010 and my first gun with a light was a early 90s USP I bought in 2013. I do own a basic 5906 but it's more of a collection then anything else. I'm not into all kinds of gadgets. The most I ever do is add nigh sights.

However ....https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180424/44e3579a955453db2c9d2ea7ecc7a5be.jpg

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[Todd.K]

Does a P229 in the new 357SIG count?

It was during the AWB, I was too young to 1911, too poor to buy preban Glock mags, too early to find much real terminal performance info.