View Full Version : Boulder Co. passes strict assault weapons ban!
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/b2ddde55-4481-3c01-8cbd-7c402e7d8a1a/ss_boulder-passes-sweeping.html
The city defines assault weapons as "semi-automatic firearms designed with military features to allow rapid spray firing for the quick and efficient killing of humans."
Included in the definition are "all semiautomatic action rifles with a detachable magazine with a capacity of twenty-one or more rounds," as well as "semiautomatic shotguns with a folding stock or a magazine capacity of more than six rounds or both."
Those possessing assault weapons already can keep them under the law, but owning bump stocks and high-capacity magazines will be become illegal in July. Certain law enforcement and military personnel are exempted from the ordinance.
Moose-Knuckle
05-17-18, 04:21
"....to allow rapid spray firing for the quick and efficient killing of humans."
Okay, I lol'ed at that verbiage. :lol:
Colorado used to be more libertarian and the more they ignore the coming wave of Left leaning the more issues that they will face, tourism and business will fall. Hopefully this will help benefit surrounding states with a better understanding of cause and effect.
Okay, I lol'ed at that verbiage. :lol:
Me too.
FromMyColdDeadHand
05-17-18, 10:34
Lawsuit filed by local gun club and Jon Caldera and a person under 21. THink a gun store too.
Based on 2A issues. THere are also CO 'Home Rule' issues with the law.
BrigandTwoFour
05-17-18, 11:42
Odd that their definition of high capacity magazines started at 21 rounds when the state already did a 15 round limit.
FromMyColdDeadHand
05-17-18, 13:07
Odd that their definition of high capacity magazines started at 21 rounds when the state already did a 15 round limit.
State was grandfathered.
They are looking to do tweaks to it later. Don’t know if that is to head off lawsuits or appease the Blooming-idiots.
titsonritz
05-17-18, 13:17
No shit, with verbiage like that, hope they never see Bob Munden or Jerry Miculek at work or there go revolvers too. Some more of the typical common sense.
Moose-Knuckle
05-17-18, 13:22
No shit, with verbiage like that, hope they never see Bob Munden or Jerry Miculek at work or there go revolvers too. Some more of the typical common sense.
Jerry shoot'n a wheel gun is the first thing I thought of when I read that shit.
Some of the fastest pistoleros achieve their feat with Colt SAAs.
BoringGuy45
05-17-18, 14:26
I don't know how Colorado works exactly, but at least here in PA, local ordinances can only be enforced by fines. That means there's next to zero chance that non-compliance will lead anywhere.
SomeOtherGuy
05-17-18, 15:24
The city defines assault weapons as "semi-automatic firearms designed with military features to allow rapid spray firing for the quick and efficient killing of humans."
1) They forgot to include "and has a shoulder thing that goes up."
2) I'm not aware of any current firearms that have a "rapid spray firing" feature. I realize this sounds like preamble language rather than part of the operative definition, but perhaps this level of idiocy could be used to show that the people who voted for it lack the basic intelligence needed to engage in legally valid legislative functions.
titsonritz
05-17-18, 16:26
Jerry shoot'n a wheel gun is the first thing I thought of when I read that shit.
Some of the fastest pistoleros achieve their feat with Colt SAAs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGZC60PCaiM
FromMyColdDeadHand
05-17-18, 16:28
I don't know how Colorado works exactly, but at least here in PA, local ordinances can only be enforced by fines. That means there's next to zero chance that non-compliance will lead anywhere.
I don't know the details, but I picture the Boulder jail as having non-GMO, gluten-free, vegetarian meals with child-labor free bedding materials and uniforms that are all unique with affirming messages written on the tags.
titsonritz
05-17-18, 16:30
The full version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GflTkHaigo
Okay, I lol'ed at that verbiage. :lol:
I almost spray fired my keyboard with my drink :)
Moose-Knuckle
05-17-18, 17:13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGZC60PCaiM
Yeah that was the gent I was thinking of.
For him I surmise single action wheel guns are "assault weapons" lmao.
FromMyColdDeadHand
05-17-18, 17:34
This law is a great example of the Gun Grab of '18. It is being done at the state and city level. The national level has not borne fruit for them, so they are counting on local progressive collectivist people to push it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGZC60PCaiM
Holy smokes I haven't seen that guy before. I swear I heard one shot and both balloons broke at the same time. He must have one of those spray features on that SAA.
PatrioticDisorder
05-17-18, 18:29
This law is a great example of the Gun Grab of '18. It is being done at the state and city level. The national level has not borne fruit for them, so they are counting on local progressive collectivist people to push it.
Local level bans have no teeth.
Holy smokes I haven't seen that guy before. I swear I heard one shot and both balloons broke at the same time. He must have one of those spray features on that SAA.Must be that barrel shroud that gives him that edge
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BrigandTwoFour
05-17-18, 18:51
Local level bans have no teeth.
But they don't have to.
Local level bans "normalize" restrictions in the minds of people, which makes less resistance to broader restrictions at more-than-local levels since most people will hear that they already had such and such law at the local level. The fact that it was toothless is irrelevant to that end.
I don't know the details, but I picture the Boulder jail as having non-GMO, gluten-free, vegetarian meals with child-labor free bedding materials and uniforms that are all unique with affirming messages written on the tags.
My girlfriend lived in Boulder for a couple of years. Her assessment on the place is pretty much summed up in your analysis except for everyone drives hybrids.
This law is a great example of the Gun Grab of '18. It is being done at the state and city level. The national level has not borne fruit for them, so they are counting on local progressive collectivist people to push it.
I think your right, if many local cities and states start doing it, the liberals in the senate will feel as though they fell asleep at the wheel and begin to take immediate action saying that they are far behind to movement.
The full version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GflTkHaigo
Wow, just wow. No other words.
SilverBullet432
05-17-18, 22:01
Someone please explain to me, how this is constitutional...
titsonritz
05-18-18, 00:14
Someone please explain to me, how this is constitutional...
After all, the Constitution is a list of suggestions, isn't it?
Moose-Knuckle
05-18-18, 02:04
Local level bans "normalize" restrictions in the minds of people, which makes less resistance to broader restrictions at more-than-local levels since most people will hear that they already had such and such law at the local level. The fact that it was toothless is irrelevant to that end.
That and if a home owner or other such good guy utilized such a firearm in a self-defense situation within city limits they would be treated as the criminal.
I don't know the details, but I picture the Boulder jail as having non-GMO, gluten-free, vegetarian meals with child-labor free bedding materials and uniforms that are all unique with affirming messages written on the tags.
Don't forget large helpings of soy with every meal.
FromMyColdDeadHand
05-18-18, 07:50
Local level bans have no teeth.
The problem is that they do. It is up to $1000 and 180 days in jail, with a minimum 10 days. Now I don't know if that is per mag or just for having any number. How many standard cap magazines do you have? You could rapidly get to a level of punishment of NFA violations. Of course, they have to find them, but that is like living like an illegal alien. Sure it probably won't get picked up, but if you do....
I mean, you are right. These laws aren't designed to catch people and punish them, but they are more like a snake under a log, who knows when you could get bit.
PatrioticDisorder
05-18-18, 08:58
The problem is that they do. It is up to $1000 and 180 days in jail, with a minimum 10 days. Now I don't know if that is per mag or just for having any number. How many standard cap magazines do you have? You could rapidly get to a level of punishment of NFA violations. Of course, they have to find them, but that is like living like an illegal alien. Sure it probably won't get picked up, but if you do....
I mean, you are right. These laws aren't designed to catch people and punish them, but they are more like a snake under a log, who knows when you could get bit.
Well, everyone needs to make a decision on whether they comply or not comply with blatantly unconstitutional and unjust laws. That said, I reside in Florida, we have local preemption, someone of the leftist strong holds are challenging it, it will be interesting to see what happens. I left my the state I was born in (NY) to get away from this shit. I’m done fleeing, what ever happens, so be it but I will not comply.
If the left gets its way, those "hands and feet registered as deadly weapons with the FBI" jokes won't be jokes anymore.
Looks like I'm not moving to Boulder County. Darn.
Colorado has preemption except for the City/County of Denver because of a court's interpretation of their form of government. Boulder does NOT have this escape clause, therefore this "should" be overturned.
I used to live in Colorado, not too far from Boulder, but I just avoided the damn Hippie place.
Little by little the politician and government employee crime gang will get guns banned.
RetroRevolver77
06-18-18, 00:38
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Incrementally, a nationwide boiling point is approaching. When the boilover occurs, I truly fear what the outcome will be.
My mind is already made up. I won't turn anything over or register anything I own. A felony is a felony. In for a penny, in for a pound.
When you have law abiding citizens suddenly turned into criminals by government at the stroke of a pen, that to me is tyranny.
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Democracy => Tyranny of the majority.
Most of the residents of Boulder think you and I are dangerous, unstable people and don't really care if we get made felons or are murdered by their police department.
Moose-Knuckle
06-18-18, 15:13
I just watched a film about the Armenian genocide in Turkey circa 1915.
A million and half murdered Armenians wished they had small-arms.
Colorado has also started a program in which you can anonymously report someone's ownership of assault weapons to police and receive a $500 reward. You get the reward if your snitching leads to a conviction.
I think this might be how to confiscate guns, offer a $500 reward to those who oppose gun ownership. Basically, pay one half of the country to rat out the other half. Its smart and cheap and required no additional law enforcement.
I know most of us, including myself, only have 1 and only 1 gun because that is all we need. But there may be people out there who own several weapons, or guns that accept detachable 30 round clips, so $500 could, in reality, take 3-5 assault rifles off the street. 84k members on this forum, lets say only 70% own a gun that is evil, that is 58,800 members which would cost roughly 29 million to take any wear from 58,800- 295,000 (average of 1-5 per member) guns off our streets.
I think the liberal progressives are going that direction. Calling on there own supporters to be snitches and rat out law abiding citizens for a small reward. I don't think this will stop with guns. It will continue on for Christians, bible owners, those who are pro life, those who stand up for the national anthem etc.
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-18-18, 22:17
Colorado has also started a program in which you can anonymously report someone's ownership of assault weapons to police and receive a $500 reward. You get the reward if your snitching leads to a conviction.
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You are going to have to source that one for me. There actually aren't any AW bans in Colorado- just mag bans that look like AWBs; not counting the Boulder thing which isn't fully in place yet.
Moose-Knuckle
06-19-18, 00:35
Colorado has also started a program in which you can anonymously report someone's ownership of assault weapons to police and receive a $500 reward. You get the reward if your snitching leads to a conviction.
I think this might be how to confiscate guns, offer a $500 reward to those who oppose gun ownership. Basically, pay one half of the country to rat out the other half. Its smart and cheap and required no additional law enforcement.
I know most of us, including myself, only have 1 and only 1 gun because that is all we need. But there may be people out there who own several weapons, or guns that accept detachable 30 round clips, so $500 could, in reality, take 3-5 assault rifles off the street. 84k members on this forum, lets say only 70% own a gun that is evil, that is 58,800 members which would cost roughly 29 million to take any wear from 58,800- 295,000 (average of 1-5 per member) guns off our streets.
I think the liberal progressives are going that direction. Calling on there own supporters to be snitches and rat out law abiding citizens for a small reward. I don't think this will stop with guns. It will continue on for Christians, bible owners, those who are pro life, those who stand up for the national anthem etc.
That's Marxism 101.
People were so paranoid under Stalinism that they would falsely accuse their own immediate family members to escape torture, a Gulag, and or death.
We have people in this country that would turn their fellow countrymen in at breakneck speeds.
I was actually talking about Boulder and not Colorado as a whole, my bad, but here is some links to other aggressive tactics.
ERPO-Oregon
https://www.courts.oregon.gov/programs/family/domestic-violence/Pages/Extreme-Risk-Protection.aspx
https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2017R1/Downloads/MeasureDocument/SB719
ERPO- Colorado
https://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb18-1436
Reward for info on "illegal guns" - New York:
http://www.keepandbeararms.com/images/NYOpGunStop.jpg
I cannot find the link about Boulder offering a $500 reward for snitching on a banned items but I know I read it. I read it on Yahoo! months ago and I usually save those stories. How else is Boulder going to enforce these new laws? They are counting on the locals to help identify "illegal gun owners".
You have to be careful. The progressive/liberal government is smart to use catch phrases and words designed to make people take action. Words like "Illegal", "Extreme Risk", "Unstable", "Dangerous" and "Mental Illness". Those are the words that the liberals are using to describe you and me. It makes the left feel as though they are doing good by reporting you to authorities. Then the liberal go on and encourage there followers to "get involved" and be "apart of the solution", "lets make a better tomorrow".
These ERPO laws are not designed to report a person at extreme risk to himself or others because of mental issues. ERPO is designed to report those that are thought to take the 2nd Amendment just a little too literal. Or those that have the ability to resist authority. When was there ever laws to report those who had aids? Or ISIS sympathizers? These laws only deal with firearms. Not one of these laws even mention a knife. So I can say with confidence that it has nothing to do with safety, it has everything to do with disarming and control. And the kicker is, ERPO doesn't even require much evidence except a testimony from someone close to the individual in question. And "close" is not even defined. I am led to believe that ERPO is nothing more than a kangaroo court set up by liberals who are claiming "public safety" but in reality want to confiscate firearms.
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-19-18, 01:11
Actually, the Boulder law had some wording in it about 'talking' to people with AWs and not arresting them straight out. The bigger picture is that the left doesn't want these laws enforced. That would create conflict. They want to pass the laws and don't really care about enforcement, now. That is why they ban stuff before they have a registry. You can never really come close to a ban with out a registry to work off of. Look at the bump stock and mag bans. All self enforced. Plus, $500 would have to come from somewhere and the last thing they want to do is go spend money on something that doesn't put money some support groups pocket.
SomeOtherGuy
06-19-18, 08:02
Colorado has also started a program in which you can anonymously report someone's ownership of ****
I think the liberal progressives are going that direction. Calling on there own supporters to be snitches and rat out law abiding citizens for a small reward. I don't think this will stop with guns. It will continue on for Christians, bible owners, those who are pro life, those who stand up for the national anthem etc.
Pretty standard totalitarian, hell-on-earth 1984 Orwellian stuff. Widely practiced in communist regimes throughout the 20th century.
To quote from a recent mediocre movie, "this is not going to go the way that you think." Among other history of interest, study the Northern Ireland situation from WW2 through nominal peace. And note that the UK had to use non-local troops in a multi-decade COIN operation that ultimately didn't succeed, and there was not the slightest respect for any kind of civil rights of the locals.
To quote from a recent mediocre movie, "this is not going to go the way that you think." Among other history of interest, study the Northern Ireland situation from WW2 through nominal peace. And note that the UK had to use non-local troops in a multi-decade COIN operation that ultimately didn't succeed, and there was not the slightest respect for any kind of civil rights of the locals.
My current boss is Belfast Irish. Still makes references to "the troubles", and has an innate dislike / lack of trust of Brits.
IMHO, unless they stop making all ammo and ammo components, any and all gun bans will fail. Just like the war on drugs was and is a huge failure, so will the war on ** ALL** guns be a total failure. The genie has been out of the bottle for to long, and is not going back in the bottle. Acquiring ammo in the future could become much more difficult and expensive, but nobody knows for sure how this will play out .
Averageman
06-19-18, 09:43
Generally if I have a problem, I look for a solution.
The difference between that and a Socialist is that the Socialist wants the .Fed.Gov to step in and fix their problems and in turn, they will turn over the control of their lives to avoid finding a solution and fixing their own problems.
In return for fixing all of your problems, the .Fed.Gov wants more of your money in the form of taxes and more control of your life in the guise of regulation and law.
For some people who stumble fecklessly through life, this is necessary and appreciated. They enjoy the illusion of safety in cases like this, but it is just that; an illusion.
Have fun with that because the people determined to do you harm haven't given up their guns, you have. The .gov locally cannot guarantee your safety and will usually only arrive to clean up the mess after you've called 911. In the meantime, under the false assumption of safety you've neutered your only hope of defending yourself by giving up your gun.
Oh, you're now paying the wages of those who will impinge on your freedoms to provide that false sense of safety in the form of higher taxes.
See how that works?
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/3/boulder-colorado-assault-weapons-ban-met-mass-non-/
Even loony hippies say **** you to these gun grabbers.
https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jan/3/boulder-colorado-assault-weapons-ban-met-mass-non-/
Even loony hippies say **** you to these gun grabbers.
The loony hippies are the ones who voted for their communist city government yet suddenly they are seeing the error of their ways? It will be interesting to see what happens the next round of elections in Boulder.
The loony hippies are the ones who voted for their communist city government yet suddenly they are seeing the error of their ways? It will be interesting to see what happens the next round of elections in Boulder.Exactly. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
This has less to do with people "changing their minds" or "seeing the error of their ways" and more to do with the vocal minority voting and, after it's too late, the silent majority not being happy with the results.
Moral: keep up to date with what bills are being presented and VOTE VOTE VOTE! Otherwise making shiny stickers that do nothing is all you can do if you don't get off your ass to prevent it from happening.
The loony hippies are the ones who voted for their communist city government yet suddenly they are seeing the error of their ways? It will be interesting to see what happens the next round of elections in Boulder.Don't worry that's a small minority fringe. Most all commie hippies are happy about this new law
Don't worry that's a small minority fringe. Most all commie hippies are happy about this new law
This is even more accurate. The "silent majority" phrasing I used above was greatly exaggerated to try to make a point. In reality, Boulder's people largely reflects it's laws and government.
Colorado has also started a program in which you can anonymously report someone's ownership of assault weapons to police and receive a $500 reward. You get the reward if your snitching leads to a conviction.
I think this might be how to confiscate guns, offer a $500 reward to those who oppose gun ownership. Basically, pay one half of the country to rat out the other half. Its smart and cheap and required no additional law enforcement.
I know most of us, including myself, only have 1 and only 1 gun because that is all we need. But there may be people out there who own several weapons, or guns that accept detachable 30 round clips, so $500 could, in reality, take 3-5 assault rifles off the street. 84k members on this forum, lets say only 70% own a gun that is evil, that is 58,800 members which would cost roughly 29 million to take any wear from 58,800- 295,000 (average of 1-5 per member) guns off our streets.
I think the liberal progressives are going that direction. Calling on there own supporters to be snitches and rat out law abiding citizens for a small reward. I don't think this will stop with guns. It will continue on for Christians, bible owners, those who are pro life, those who stand up for the national anthem etc.
that would be awesome go bury stolen guns in the lefites garden and call it in :) hahahahahah
m1a_scoutguy
01-05-19, 22:05
Colorado used to be more libertarian and the more they ignore the coming wave of Left-leaning the more issues that they will face, tourism and business will fall. Hopefully, this will help benefit surrounding states with a better understanding of cause and effect.
No matter how you feel about it they have LEGAL POT,, who friggin cares !!! The stoners will follow who and whatever they are told to !! ;) And under the heading of "You ain't Seen Nothing Yet: in New York, once Legal Weed hits NY this year we will be even farther down the shithole !! 2 more years and I'll be out of here,,thank God !
platoonDaddy
01-06-19, 11:47
1st Jersey shooters in mass ignoring the magazine ban and now some resistance in Boulder.
Saw a sign recently: More patriots than you have handcuffs
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