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Slater
07-12-18, 16:29
It'll be interesting to see if this actually results in a production contract for someone. Can't say I've ever heard of PCP Tactical though:


Under Section 815 Other Transaction Agreements (OTA) authority, pursuant to 10 U.S.C. § 2371b, the U.S. Army Contracting Command - New Jersey (ACC-NJ), on behalf of Project Manager Soldier Weapons, awarded six (6) separate Fixed Priced, Full and Open Competition (F&OC), Prototype OTA's to:

AAI Corporation Textron Systems - Hunt Valley, MD; OTA W15QKN-18-9-1017
FN America LLC. - Columbia, SC; OTA's W15QKN-18-9-1018 & W15QKN-18-9-1019
General Dynamics-OTS Inc. - Williston, VT; OTA W15QKN-18-9-1020
PCP Tactical, LLC - Vero Beach, FL; OTA W15QKN-18-9-1021
Sig Sauer Inc. - Newington, NH; OTA W15QKN-18-9-1022

These Prototype OTA's will be for the manufacture and development of a Next Generation Squad Automatic Rifle (NGSAR) system demonstrator representative of a Technology Readiness Level (TRL) 6 and Manufacturing Readiness Level (MRL) 6. The expected Prototype OTA duration is twelve months after award. The Prototype OTA's were awarded on 25 June 2018.


https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&tab=core&id=fe381e44b02f50305c52b3f9cbd02740&_cview=0
FromMyColdDeadHand
07-12-18, 19:21
Specs?
sidewaysil80
07-12-18, 19:34
It’s going to go to Sig per what seems like Army SOP. I guess these are just formalities.
mack7.62
07-12-18, 19:50
Not for a SAW it's for a Next Generation Squad Automatic Rifle (NGSAR), is Army thinking of going the M27 route? I am beginning to think this NJ bunch is in the business of wasting taxpayer money and trying to get retirement jobs with SIG.
Slater
07-12-18, 19:52
Some general requirements about halfway down:

https://www.fbo.gov/utils/view?id=8f75ca7a236bb4eb35f3215161bc56c3
Slater
07-12-18, 19:58
Not for a SAW it's for a Next Generation Squad Automatic Rifle (NGSAR), is Army thinking of going the M27 route? I am beginning to think this NJ bunch is in the business of wasting taxpayer money and trying to get retirement jobs with SIG.

It's a kinda-sorta SAW replacement:

"The NGSAR is the planned replacement for the M249 Squad Automatic Weapon (SAW) in Brigade Combat Teams (BCT). It will combine the firepower and range of a machine gun with the precision and ergonomics of a rifle, yielding capability improvements in accuracy, range, and lethality."
SteyrAUG
07-12-18, 20:09
LOL. When I see this...

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/6EXvlLy-660x403.png

...all I see is this.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b3/Bushmaster_M17S_right.jpg/800px-Bushmaster_M17S_right.jpg
Slater
07-12-18, 20:12
Maybe the Army should just award a sole-source contract to Heckler & Koch and be done with it :D
SteyrAUG
07-12-18, 22:05
Maybe the Army should just award a sole-source contract to Heckler & Koch and be done with it :D

Could easily do worse.
FromMyColdDeadHand
07-13-18, 00:02
Stoner 63!!!!!
BoringGuy45
07-13-18, 02:43
Stoner 63!!!!!

I'd love to see a revival/update/simplification of that concept!! It seemed like such a great idea that unfortunately never made it past the proof of concept stage (and, also unfortunately, was introduced to combat before proof of concept was solidified).
Mr. Goodtimes
07-13-18, 14:07
I'd love to see a revival/update/simplification of that concept!! It seemed like such a great idea that unfortunately never made it past the proof of concept stage (and, also unfortunately, was introduced to combat before proof of concept was solidified).

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dwhitehorne
07-13-18, 21:08
Reading over the SOW it looks to me like they are looking for some type of caseless ammo SAW. It mentions desire to have ammo 20 percent lighter that brass ammo. David
SteyrAUG
07-13-18, 23:28
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That actually looks pretty amazing.


Reading over the SOW it looks to me like they are looking for some type of caseless ammo SAW. It mentions desire to have ammo 20 percent lighter that brass ammo. David

Did they learn nothing from the G11 project? 20 percent lighter is meaningless when your squad support weapon fails from overheating or starts cooking off rounds unintentionally. Never mind the various overly complex ignition systems related to caseless ammo as discovered by Voere.
Slater
07-13-18, 23:32
Textron claims to have addressed the weight issue with their case telescoped round, but the tradeoff (reportedly) is higher cost:

https://www.textronsystems.com/what-we-do/weapon-sensor-systems/LSAT
FromMyColdDeadHand
07-13-18, 23:38
They are going to figure out the heavy ammo issue, right when robot ammo bearers come on line....
BoringGuy45
07-14-18, 07:59
Textron claims to have addressed the weight issue with their case telescoped round, but the tradeoff (reportedly) is higher cost:

https://www.textronsystems.com/what-we-do/weapon-sensor-systems/LSAT

The thing with telescoped rounds is that, while apparently it's a weight reduction, it looks like it's an increase in bulk. They look like small gauge shotgun rounds.