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Emily Eakins of The Democracy Fund - Voter Study Group has completed a study of why voters cast their vote for President Trump.
She identified five clusters of voters and identified them as: American Preservationists (20%), Staunch Conservatives (31%), Anti-Elites (19%), Free Marketeers (25%), and the Disengaged (5%).
The study describes each group and compares their similarities and dissimilarities.
She concluded that even though all these individuals chose to vote for Trump in the general election, they hold vastly different views on immigration, American identity, race, economics, and moral traditionalism. They also hold different perceptions of justice in the political and economic systems. Despite these differences, they appear to have four views in common:
1) They share an intense dislike of Clinton—about 9 in 10 of each group has an unfavorable opinion of her.
2) They share some degree of support for the temporary ban on Muslim immigration (Free Marketers are less supportive). The agreement among Trump voters far exceeds support among non-Trump voters.
3) Attitudes about how to handle illegal immigration distinguish Trump voters. For instance, pluralities of non-Trump Republicans, independents, and Democrats all support a path to citizenship for unauthorized immigrants. In contrast, only one Trump cluster reaches plurality support—the Anti-Elites—with 45 percent in support.
Immigration attitudes do not distinguish Trump voters across the board. Free Marketeers tended to take a similar or even more liberal approach than some non-Trump partisans in allowing more legal immigration and in their warm temperature rating toward immigrants.
4) Fourth, Trump voters tend to have a more dismal view of their personal financial situations. About 4 in 10 Trump voters report their economic situation has worsened over the past year compared to about 2 in 10 non-Trump Republicans.
I thought it was an interesting and illuminating study.
https://www.voterstudygroup.org/publications/2016-elections/the-five-types-trump-voters
The_War_Wagon
07-14-18, 20:29
Emily Eakins of The Democracy Fund...
Has the DISTINCT elitist odor of George Soros, who funds ANTI-Americanism. I'd like to know more about this group, before I put any stock in their (HQ lunchroom) surveys... :rolleyes:
And none of those are me, but once again I seem to find myself in the "deplorables" basket to whatever extent.
I don't neatly fit into any of the categories, I voted for Trump for two reasons.
1. He more closely represented my sigline / core values than Clinton.
2. All of the right people, including those in the Republican party and MSM were very concerned he might become President, which is usually a good indicator that he is the right guy.
typical negative lefty thinking article :) hahahhahahaha
how about tired of socialist progressive communists in our gov
how about supports US folks over illegal immigrants
does not hate this country !
does not bow to other leaders and apologize !
so many other reasons but what do you expect from a lefty
I found the "American Preservationists" to be spot on white trash/trailer trash Trump supporters.. right up until they mentioned support of human caused global warming. I know dozens of these types of folks and NONE of them believe in global warming.
Oh well, I kinda fit into a couple categories. They missed one big one, though. Guys like me that just want to see shit burn. I wanted to see a complete upheaval of the media and democrats, and I have not been disappointed.
FromMyColdDeadHand
07-14-18, 22:04
For instance, pluralities of non-Trump Republicans, independents, and Democrats all support a path to citizenship for unauthorized immigrants.
So if you take 40% of the population out- and 1/4 of the US population is foreign born or first gen.... duh.
If we had the demographics of 1980, even 1990, the GOP would never lose a another POTUS election.
AUG says that he is none of those, and I was thinking that I'm all of those. ;) What I really don't understand is how the Progressives still can't understand why women and educated/professional whites will vote for Trump. Mrs FMCDH has to bite her lip at work because everyone assumes that since they are in CO and and have lots of education, that they must be Clinton supporters or at the least Stein voters.
Has the DISTINCT elitist odor of George Soros, who funds ANTI-Americanism. I'd like to know more about this group, before I put any stock in their (HQ lunchroom) surveys... :rolleyes:
Or, you could read it and see what you think.
I thought it was informative, and like Steyr AUG found that I didn't fit neatly into any one category, had beliefs in all of them.
I linked to the study out of an article I read from Real Clear Politics. The article is from American Greatness and you know what a bunch of commie mofo's they are:
https://amgreatness.com/2018/07/11/nevertrump-bait-and-switch-they-hate-the-ideas-not-the-man/
You probably won't read it either. :)
So if you take 40% of the population out- and 1/4 of the US population is foreign born or first gen.... duh.
So are we talking about VOTERS or people? There is a difference.
I believe the numbers on immigrants are 40,000,000 and likely 12,000,000 illegals (well likely 12,075,000 counting them effing Canadian border jumpers :) ) So if the 40 million doesn't include the illegals, lets call it 52,000,000. US population is 326,766,748. So it is actually 1/6 not one quarter.
Annnd, we still haven't figured out how many of them vote.
Plus, there is this little tidbit.....58% of Latino voters support Trump on immigration, even while disliking him its from Fox so you know it is legit! http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/18/poll-58-latino-voters-support-trump-on-immigration-even-when-disliking-him.html
Basically what I'm saying is, I'm sorry, I don't see your point.
FromMyColdDeadHand
07-14-18, 22:50
They imply that there is significance to a plurality of the parties not opposed to it. And they use the phrase " support a path to citizenship for unauthorized immigrants", which could be DREAMERS or it could be the illegals coming across and are not known as dreamers.
You also left out first generation people who are directly related to immigrants.
All I'm saying is that the a plurality of those voters having that view is about as significant as saying that 50% of drivers are below average.
the temporary ban on Muslim immigration
As soon as I read these six words, the writer/researched lost ALL credibility. It isn't and was never a Muslim specific policy.
vicious_cb
07-14-18, 23:50
Wait so leftists are yet again trying to put people into neatly defined categories instead of treating people as free thinking individuals? WHAT A SURPRISE! :rolleyes:
When Obama won the election in 2008, the credit was given to the highly educated, intellectuals, people with high potential for success. It was noted that Obama had given praise to the science community, intellectuals and recognized leaders from various education,environmental, geological, atmospheric and even Islamic communities. But maintained a great distance from the social causes that he claimed to support like: immigration, LGBT, employment, health care and minimum wage. Obama talked about these issues very publicly and even recognized individual leaders within those communities but failed to make an impact or at least contribute much more than a name drop.
When Trump won the election, the credit is given to those who are "anti" or "against" social policies. While Trump focused mainly on economy, fair trade, immigration, peace and strength: he has shown through his actions that he is a man of his word. Trump is not a talker, but a walker. There is no argument that the economy is better now than it was before Trump. Although, he will never receive an ounce of credit. Immigration policies are being set in place. Peace is being negotiated and fair trade is his main focus right now.
Democrats hold on to Obama because of his word, not his action. Trump supporters value Trump because of his actions. Its known to many Trump supporters that Trumps word is just as iron clad as a signed contract.
The left still finds fault in those who voted in favor of Trump and reduced them to a list of anti people, when it has nothing to do with one singular item, but the agenda as a whole.
MountainRaven
07-15-18, 01:14
Trump is not a talker, but a walker.
:laugh:
Its known to many Trump supporters that Trumps word is just as iron clad as a signed contract.
:lol:
As soon as I read these six words, the writer/researched lost ALL credibility. It isn't and was never a Muslim specific policy.
No kidding. I don't think Dems will ever understand why Trump was elected, which is why he won.
I was not a Trump supporter, I saw him for what he was, a NY former liberal, born again conservative, real estate investor who started with millions and turned it into billions and a reality tv show host. But even that was better than anyone offered up by the Democrats, especially Hillary.
I initially hoped Rand Paul would win, but he's something of an expert on the Constitution, has strong libertarian tendencies and talked about issues and proposed solutions. So as a result he didn't stand a chance.
Then I was hoping for Ben Carson, since elections are something of a popularity contest which favor novelty Presidents, and I put a lot of faith in Carson as a clearly educated person who could understand issues and find practical solutions...but then he had to start explaining things like how the pyramids were used by Joseph to store grain and that was the end of my faith in Carson.
After that, I honestly didn't care who got the nomination, I simply hoped for the person with the most appeal who could defeat Hillary. It seemed to quickly come down to Cruz or Trump and Cruz seemed to be slightly more polarizing (no easy trick when the other guy is Trump) and he pulled a few stunts that made me wary of his credibility (again when you are matched up against Trump and having credibility problems, it's a big deal) and I realized the nation was once again going to play celebrity President so like many others I took Trump for the win.
And THAT is why I voted for Trump. Not for a single second did I think he was going to build a wall "and make Mexico pay for it", I had little faith that he'd repeal and replace Obamacare (he seems to have eliminated the mandate one year and that was my biggest problem with Obamacare). I didn't think he'd get a Muslim ban because by definition it's a religious ban and honestly I wish we'd focus more on the people already in the country on terrorist watch lists than trying to solve the problem with blanket travel restrictions that are ultimately ineffective given that we can't even control our southern border.
The Democrats could have ran a moderate and won by a landslide. But they are the only ones worse than Republicans and the Republicans weren't even able to support a Republican health care program that they had been supporting for 7 years when Trump asked for it. The election wasn't about racism or being poor or any of that other shit. It was a repudiation of the current GOP as much as the Democrats and that seems to be totally lost on almost everyone.
I despise Hillary but even more I despise John McCain, Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Paul Ryan and the rest of the GOP cockpit because they are supposed to be on OUR side but you really can't tell. But Democrats will never figure that out, in their minds they lost because most of our country is a bunch of back woods, hillbilly rednecks who are racists and that is why Trump won.
snip....
I despise Hillary but even more I despise John McCain, Mitch McConnell, Lindsey Graham, Paul Ryan and the rest of the GOP cockpit because they are supposed to be on OUR side but you really can't tell. But Democrats will never figure that out, in their minds they lost because most of our country is a bunch of back woods, hillbilly rednecks who are racists and that is why Trump won.
hahahahah OH SO SO SO TRUE !!!!
also the fact so many like them hate Trump makes me want him in there even more since he is not part of the back room everyone is buddies we are in control oligarchy kinda situation we are in
[QUOTE=Honu;2642057]typical negative lefty thinking article :) hahahhahahaha
how about tired of socialist progressive communists in our gov
how about supports US folks over illegal immigrants
does not hate this country !
does not bow to other leaders and apologize !
so many other reasons but what do you expect from a lefty[/QUOTE
^ Pretty much this.
Plus, there is this little tidbit.....58% of Latino voters support Trump on immigration, even while disliking him
Now that shouldn't be surprising, but I'm disappointed it's not higher. "Latino voters" implies they are citizens, and likely the vast majority were born here. Why wouldn't they support cracking down on illegal immigration? 3/4 of my family tree came from Europe at or near the turn of the last century (late 1800's to early 1900's). If there was a sudden bum-rush of illegals coming from Ireland, Slovakia, or Italy I'd want them sent back just like I want those crossing the southern border to be deported. I feel no "kinship" just because they share the same ethnic makeup as myself. Why would American-born Hispanics feel differently? Again, I'm a little disappointed that 58% figure isn't higher but that's not bad considering that 2/3 of Hispanic votes cast are for Democrats.
BrigandTwoFour
07-15-18, 08:43
I’m fairly up front with my circle that I didn’t vote for Trump because I wanted him to win. I just could do not stand the idea of Clinton.
I am also up front that the primary reason I voted for republicans rather than the libertarians I more closely align with was because of the Supreme Court. I figured there would be at least one, hopefully two, and now it looks like the potential for three appointments (if some else drops off). I was willing to sacrifice a little “credibility” in the worlds eye (if that even really mattered) to get a more right leaning court.
The_War_Wagon
07-15-18, 10:46
Or, you could read it and see what you think.
I made my comment AFTER reading it, and I stand by my comment.
Furbyballer
07-15-18, 11:37
The mere fact that this article never touched on the importance of the supreme court to conservatives means this article is not worth considering as the author missed the fundamental reason why clinton lost the election.
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Business_Casual
07-15-18, 12:07
I saw him for what he was, a NY former liberal, born again conservative, real estate investor who started with millions and turned it into billions and a reality tv show host. But even that was better than anyone offered up by the Democrats.
Minor point, but I think he was a Democrat of convenience. In NYC you have to be or are assumed to be. Also, the Democrats have moved so far left that moderates had no place to go but the feckless, compromised GOP of Ryan and McConnell.
I voted for him because Hillary would, in my opinion, have enacted a dictatorship in short order, using whatever pretext was handy and topped it off with a nuclear war with Russia.
Plus who can resist “low energy Jeb” and “little Marco” jokes?
RetroRevolver77
07-15-18, 13:26
I've taken that political test and I fall in the authoritarian extreme far right category.
As far as the five categories for Trump supporters broken down on that website, I'd fall in the "American Preservationist" category.
I've taken that political test and I fall in the authoritarian extreme far right category.
I'm in the low right, just below the line demarking authoritarion/libertarian persuasion and just to the right. Explains a lot, huh?
Business_Casual
07-15-18, 17:13
There’s no right/left libertarian conservatives liberals thing, in my opinion. There’s only statists and freedom. Once you sign up for having people with guns show up at someone’s house because they didn’t pay a tax, you are violating the non-aggression principle point blank.
I’m not stupid enough to think we can abolish government right now, I’m just saying the state is force and being cute about how much force and for what specific instances isn’t a distinction I feel requires a label.
RetroRevolver77
07-15-18, 17:41
I'm in the low right, just below the line demarking authoritarion/libertarian persuasion and just to the right. Explains a lot, huh?
I don't know what it explains honestly. I read recently, the younger kids called Generation Z- are the most far right leaning group since the WWII generation. That gave me great hope for a better future in this country. There should be no room for socialist ideology in our nation.
This is my political compass results that I took the other day.
52902
I don't know what it explains honestly. I read recently, the younger kids called Generation Z- are the most far right leaning group since the WWII generation. That gave me great hope for a better future in this country. There should be no room for socialist ideology in our nation.
This is my political compass results that I took the other day.
52902
I took it and I'm one square to the lower right of center. I do note that there weren't many immigration-based questions.
Kinda scares me that I'm that damn close to the left side of the line! I describe myself as a conservative (NOT an Establishment one) with some Libertarian leanings.
I believe in the RKBA, don't care one way or the other about gay marriage (I will not rally for it though), am 100% against illegal immigration, believe the U.S. should come first in all international situations, do not like random police checkpoints and definitely do not like NSA spying on Americans in the CONUS, and am 200% opposed to the "Swamp" and think it's high time that it be drained.....both parties.
Averageman
07-15-18, 18:39
And none of those are me, but once again I seem to find myself in the "deplorables" basket to whatever extent.
I don't neatly fit into any of the categories, I voted for Trump for two reasons.
1. He more closely represented my sigline / core values than Clinton.
2. All of the right people, including those in the Republican party and MSM were very concerned he might become President, which is usually a good indicator that he is the right guy.
This above is generally my position.
I hate leftist, I hate elitists on both sides of the swamp and we're experiencing the only sure cure.
I've come to conclude that test doesn't really indicate anything of meaning - both the results it produces for individuals and the premises upon which it's crafted.
I've come to conclude that test doesn't really indicate anything of meaning - both the results it produces for individuals and the premises upon which it's crafted.
I tend to agree with that statement.
Averageman
07-15-18, 19:37
Anything coming out of a University study or someone's Doctorial thesis is going to be tainted with some Trump hate.
That's just the way they're going to roll, so read it, understand it and ignore the results as biased.
Five categories is pretty insulting as it is, so F'em.
The_War_Wagon
07-15-18, 19:46
I've come to conclude that test doesn't really indicate anything of meaning - both the results it produces for individuals and the premises upon which it's crafted.
Meyers - Briggs... & other modern horoscopes... :rolleyes:
Anything coming out of a University study or someone's Doctorial thesis is going to be tainted with some Trump hate.
That's just the way they're going to roll, so read it, understand it and ignore the results as biased.
Five categories is pretty insulting as it is, so F'em.
I just didn't take it that way.
What I got was that they ran essentially the same study in 2012 - that was how they got the Hilary comparisons - and ran this study to find out what motivated those who voted for President Trump because his election was so surprising.
I didn't see any bias in the survey, just reporting of the survey results. There are many folks, who just like me, voted for President Trump as a vote against Clinton. I was surprised it worked. I do think overall the organization is left leaning.
Some folks are one issue voters - abortion, gay marriage, 2nd Amendment, immigration, whatever; others have different reasons for voting like they do. I liked seeing what others thought.
I had things in common with every group, no one group totally met my beliefs. But I think that is the way it is with polls in general. For example:
It’s a sad reflection on our society that something as basic as drinking water is now a bottled, branded consumer product.
Strongly disagree
Disagree
Agree
Strongly agree
Well, shit, I want to say I kind of agree, because I think it indicates a degree of slothfulness and wastefulness, but do I strongly agree? And if they mean that companies should bottle water and give it away, tehn I strongly disagree. But damn, I haven't drank tap water, except to rinse my mouth, for years, we refill three gallon containers and have a water cooler upstairs and downstairs. So, WTF do I answer? And how important is it?
FromMyColdDeadHand
07-15-18, 23:25
For sales training we get a lot of these personality trait type testing. While I agree that everyone has an innate personality, especially with something like work personality, it really depends more on what your role is and who you are trying to motivate/influence. Some people have a greater range of tools, but depending on what the facts, people and desired outcomes are wanted I can be everything from a paramour coconspirator to just a bit warmer version of Sgt Hartman. Political view is similar, but most people are in a more rigid/smaller-envelope of views because there isn't really that much riding on what position or 'personality' that you might deploy.
Minor point, but I think he was a Democrat of convenience. In NYC you have to be or are assumed to be.
I agree. My point was he became a Republican of convenience. I still believe that is mostly what he is now, the sad truth is he is still way more Republican than the current Republican leadership.
Moose-Knuckle
07-16-18, 06:24
Originally Posted by 26 Inf View Post
Emily Eakins of The Democracy Fund...
Has the DISTINCT elitist odor of George Soros, who funds ANTI-Americanism. I'd like to know more about this group, before I put any stock in their (HQ lunchroom) surveys... :rolleyes:
Hah! I was thinking the exact same thing.
2. All of the right people, including those in the Republican party and MSM were very concerned he might become President, which is usually a good indicator that he is the right guy.
Quoted for truth!
They missed one big one, though. Guys like me that just want to see shit burn. I wanted to see a complete upheaval of the media and democrats, and I have not been disappointed.
EXACTLY! See my sig line.
Before I read your post I was going to say she missed one, #6 The **** You Cause That's Why voter.
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