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omegajb
07-21-18, 05:14
I was just curious where people on YouTube shooting full auto rifles get modern rifles? From what I understand the Hughes Amendment made it so you could only get one manufactured prior to 1986.
Are these considered post - samples or is there another process?

I'm not looking to acquire one I've just wondered how they do it.

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georgeib
07-21-18, 05:25
Dealer demos.

mack7.62
07-21-18, 07:04
I believe Class II manufacturers such as those who make suppressors and other parts can get them for test purposes without a LE letter. After all if you are going to sell a suppressor or magazine for a HK 416 you have to make sure it's going to work, right.;)

Stickman
07-21-18, 10:14
I was just curious where people on YouTube shooting full auto rifles get modern rifles? From what I understand the Hughes Amendment made it so you could only get one manufactured prior to 1986.
Are these considered post - samples or is there another process?

I'm not looking to acquire one I've just wondered how they do it.



Pre-86 weapons from friends or guys who want to help out are one source. Dealer samples are another, and often dealers are more than happy to help out friends. LE weapons see plenty of use in civilian hands when cops who are issued FA weapons swap out the upper with friends. In almost all of the above cases, the individuals responsible are there on hand.

Manufacturers are one of the easier and larger sources, as the weapons can be assigned to any of the employees.

markm
07-21-18, 10:49
Buy a 3D printer. I printed a mini gun last night. :cool:

turnburglar
07-21-18, 11:57
Buy a 3D printer. I printed a mini gun last night. :cool:

I 3D printed a pretty decent neutrino bomb last night....



thats how this stuff works right???

markm
07-21-18, 12:12
Nice. I'll have to post pics in the custom build forum.

elephant
07-21-18, 12:18
I have a transferable 1979 Colt M16 that I inherited from my father, I can swap out uppers if I want. Right now I have a DD Mk18 upper on it. My LGS just sold 3 F/A M60s that were brand new but had registered Vietnam era parts in them. I think they were retrofitted by US ordinance or auto ordinance. Most people will buy a registered sear for $12-18k instead of a registered lower for $25-30k. One problem with a registered sear is that if it gets damaged or broken, its worthless and you cant just replace it. At least with registered lowers, you can replace parts with modern parts and change uppers.


BTW: full auto is cool for about 3 seconds.

markm
07-21-18, 12:56
BTW: full auto is cool for about 3 seconds.

I agree. There's very little appeal for me. I can barely keep up with loading ammo for our bolt guns and regular ARs. When you make your own ammo, wasting it is repulsive.

DarkTemplars
07-21-18, 13:06
I agree. There's very little appeal for me. I can barely keep up with loading ammo for our bolt guns and regular ARs. When you make your own ammo, wasting it is repulsive.

My guess is that for people that can afford FA priced weapons, ammo cost isn't an issue. Similar to people talking about how expensive car insurance on super cars are. If you can afford the car, you can afford the insurance.

elephant
07-21-18, 14:52
I take it out from time to time and let guys experience the "thrill" factor but other than that, there is no use or purpose. If I could trade this straight up for a MP5SD or MP5K, I would do it in a heartbeat. Or I would sell outright and buy a new FN M249 Para but only if someone was willing to sell me a registered and transferable F/A lower parts kit for around $10k.

ST911
07-21-18, 17:21
Believe it or not, you can get bored of shooting FA. Even with other people's guns and ammo.

RHINOWSO
07-22-18, 09:24
BTW: full auto is cool for about 3 seconds.

Especially with ammo costs and knowing what you can do to your barrel.

Thankfully I got my FA fix in the military with fortunate time behind M249, M16, M2, and MK19s at the range. Missed out on the demo day with MP5s and AK47s, but oh well.


Believe it or not, you can get bored of shooting FA. Even with other people's guns and ammo.

Yup. The reason I missed the MP5 / AK47 shoot was I preferred to sleep in that day.

Stickman
07-22-18, 13:54
Believe it or not, you can get bored of shooting FA. Even with other people's guns and ammo.

Agreed, the same thing with suppressors.

Iraqgunz
07-22-18, 21:23
How funny that we actually have an area that discussed NFA Related stuff. Who knew?