coldzero4545
10-28-08, 00:53
Greetings,
My current residence is in North Carolina, which is a pretty AR15/M4 friendly area. Before I left for the sand box, where I currently reside :cool:, I built my M4 rifle on a Stag lower and an LMT upper, and I am proud to say that I have ALL the evil features =) Anyway...I will be moving back to NY eventually and therefore being the responsible gun owner that I am, I wanted to look into making my M4 legal to own in New York.
Taking a look at the gun laws from http://www.nysrpa.org/nygunlaws.htm, I noticed that it appears that the gun laws are even more strict than I initially thought...
Not only are you limited by this:
An "assault weapon" means (a) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (iii) a bayonet mount; (iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; (v) a grenade launcher
which means I can only have a detachable magazine and a pistol grip...:mad:
but theres more :eek:...here is some text that follows:
"An 'assault weapon' means...(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm; or (d) any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber, known as (i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (All Models); (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta Ar70 (Sc-70); (iv) Colt Ar-15;(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC; (vi) SWD M 10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12; (vii) Steyr Aug; (viii) Intratec TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and (ix) Revolving Cylinder Shotguns, such as (or Similar to) the Streetsweeper and Striker 12; (e) provided, however, that such term does not include: (i) any rifle, shotgun or pistol that (a) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or slide-action; (b) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or (c) is an antique firearm as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16); (ii) a semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition;
Which when I initially read, made me very mad, because unless I am reading this wrong, I can't "make" my M4 compliant because it is a replica of a Colt AR15 and subsequently is banned by the second quote, even if I took off ALL the evil features.
BUT!... if I'm reading "between the lines" does this mean that I can keep all the evil features on my M4 and make it NYS legal if I DO NOT have a detachable magazine? and use only pre ban or ban compliant mags? and if so...will the bullet button that is so popular in CALI http://riflegear.com/p-58-prince50-bullet-button.aspx suffice to fulfil that requirement?
Thank you in advance for your thoughts and help :D
jerry
My current residence is in North Carolina, which is a pretty AR15/M4 friendly area. Before I left for the sand box, where I currently reside :cool:, I built my M4 rifle on a Stag lower and an LMT upper, and I am proud to say that I have ALL the evil features =) Anyway...I will be moving back to NY eventually and therefore being the responsible gun owner that I am, I wanted to look into making my M4 legal to own in New York.
Taking a look at the gun laws from http://www.nysrpa.org/nygunlaws.htm, I noticed that it appears that the gun laws are even more strict than I initially thought...
Not only are you limited by this:
An "assault weapon" means (a) a semiautomatic rifle that has an ability to accept a detachable magazine and has at least two of the following characteristics: (i) a folding or telescoping stock; (ii) a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; (iii) a bayonet mount; (iv) a flash suppressor or threaded barrel designed to accommodate a flash suppressor; (v) a grenade launcher
which means I can only have a detachable magazine and a pistol grip...:mad:
but theres more :eek:...here is some text that follows:
"An 'assault weapon' means...(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm; or (d) any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber, known as (i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (All Models); (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta Ar70 (Sc-70); (iv) Colt Ar-15;(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC; (vi) SWD M 10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12; (vii) Steyr Aug; (viii) Intratec TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and (ix) Revolving Cylinder Shotguns, such as (or Similar to) the Streetsweeper and Striker 12; (e) provided, however, that such term does not include: (i) any rifle, shotgun or pistol that (a) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or slide-action; (b) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or (c) is an antique firearm as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16); (ii) a semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition;
Which when I initially read, made me very mad, because unless I am reading this wrong, I can't "make" my M4 compliant because it is a replica of a Colt AR15 and subsequently is banned by the second quote, even if I took off ALL the evil features.
BUT!... if I'm reading "between the lines" does this mean that I can keep all the evil features on my M4 and make it NYS legal if I DO NOT have a detachable magazine? and use only pre ban or ban compliant mags? and if so...will the bullet button that is so popular in CALI http://riflegear.com/p-58-prince50-bullet-button.aspx suffice to fulfil that requirement?
Thank you in advance for your thoughts and help :D
jerry