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I was at a local pizza joint the other day, and it occurred to me that anchovies have disappeared off the list of available toppings in most places (not that I miss it one bit). Has this particular topping gone the way of the dodo or do some places still have them?
I was at a local pizza joint the other day, and it occurred to me that anchovies have disappeared off the list of available toppings in most places (not that I miss it one bit). Has this particular topping gone the way of the dodo or do some places still have them?
They haven't gone away but you won't find them in parlors that have to maintain reasonable prices to stay open. Decent anchovies cost more than shrimp.
As an owner of a pizza joint a long time ago, I can say the cost of keeping anchovies on hand vs the frequency of requests did not make economic sense. I would get a request perhaps once every few months.
Two words.
Millennials.
Yeah, I'm sure that most younger folks aren't even aware this existed. After all there's no app for it :D
Anchovies on pizza are great if done right, and most restaurants don't which is I never order them. Most restaurants use anchovies like pepperoni, which is horrible. My mother is from Sicily so I grew up eating authentic Sicilian pizza. The trick with anchovies is to break them into little pieces and sparingly put them on the sauce under the cheese. That way they melt into the pizza and give it a great, subtle taste.
Moose-Knuckle
09-23-18, 13:05
A local 'take-and-bake' place well sell you a can of sardines along with red pepper flakes and parmesan.
I remember when red pepper flakes and parmesan was FREE with your order.
At most of the national chains such as Little Caesar's or Dominoes, pepper flakes and parmesan are free with your order.
Moose-Knuckle
09-23-18, 13:33
This is an international pizza chain with stores in Canada and the Middle East.
https://www.papamurphys.com/
BoringGuy45
09-23-18, 13:42
I grew up in Connecticut, where pizza is a religion, especially around the New Haven area. There were a number of places that did anchovies, and I'd imagine still do. But in CT, clams are the most common seafood of choice for pizza.
This is an international pizza chain with stores in Canada and the Middle East.
https://www.papamurphys.com/
Papa Murphy's is awesome. There are lots in Utah. I normally just buy a plain pepperoni and then load it up myself. And I like their sauce. Sometimes, when I have a coupon from a youth fundraiser that gives me Buy One Get One Free there I'll get ones already loaded up.
And they are always fresh as they are cooked in my own oven when we are ready.
gunrunner505
09-23-18, 17:54
Anchovies are like eating an eyebrow. Never could have them on pizza.
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A local 'take-and-bake' place well sell you a can of sardines along with red pepper flakes and parmesan.
I remember when red pepper flakes and parmesan was FREE with your order.
It's a take and bake place. You are going home, to put it in the oven. You should have the peppers and cheese at home unless you live on take out.
If you don't, they have plastic jars of cheese and peppers sitting by the register - I'd guess enough to do at least a dozen pizzas.
If you ask they will sprinkle red pepper flakes and Parmesan cheese onto your pizza before they wrap it - at no charge.
If that is too complicated, either get delivery or eat-in.
Business_Casual
09-23-18, 20:05
I’ve never understood take and bake. To get a decent crust, the oven has to be far hotter than your GE Profile will ever be.
LMT Shooter
09-23-18, 20:38
I’ve never understood take and bake. To get a decent crust, the oven has to be far hotter than your GE Profile will ever be.
I make homemade pizza in cast iron skillets, and everyone who has tried it says it's excellent, including the crust. Ever had homemade pizza cooked in/on cast iron?
I make homemade pizza in cast iron skillets, and everyone who has tried it says it's excellent, including the crust. Ever had homemade pizza cooked in/on cast iron?
No, I haven't, how do you go about it?
I make homemade pizza in cast iron skillets, and everyone who has tried it says it's excellent, including the crust. Ever had homemade pizza cooked in/on cast iron?
I had something that sounds similar in Chicago. I asked a group of construction workers where the best pizza was, and ended up in a small parlor that claimed to be "Oprah's favorite pizza". It was delicious, and I've not had anything similar to it since.
LMT Shooter
09-23-18, 21:46
I don't think my pizza crust is all that great, but it's decent. I consider it the weakest part of what I make. I'm surprised at how well liked it is, but I have folks who've eaten it ask me to make it again all the time. I just press dough into a skillet, coated in olive oil, cover it with sauce, and top as I like. I press the dough to a thickness of about 1/4", that gives what I'd call a medium thick crust. I use tons, like 1/2lb in my 12" skillet, of cheese, mozzarella and grated parmesan, and I add basil & oregano to the cheese.
I use packaged crust mix, usually Pillsbury brand. When people ask and I tell them that, they are always surprised. I don't get the same kind of crispy, thin exterior to the crust that you get at most pizza joints. The exterior, on the bottom, is somewhat like the bottom crust on a loaf of bread in texture, thickness, and consistency.
I have no idea how a pizza made on a pre-made crust, or a take & bake, would turn out in a cast iron skillet.
The only places where you are going to find real anchovies that you would be willing to eat are those that make and serve authentic caesar salads. Find that and you are good to go.
We had a couple great ones in FL, it's one of the very few things I miss.
I’ve never understood take and bake. To get a decent crust, the oven has to be far hotter than your GE Profile will ever be.
Whenever I do homeade, I do the crust alone until it just starts to change colors then I pull it, add toppings and finish in the oven. It's really the only way to do a crispy crust at home.
titsonritz
09-24-18, 00:25
I just had a pizza with some last week. I love those salty little bastards on a pepperoni and jalapeno pizza.
I’ve never understood take and bake. To get a decent crust, the oven has to be far hotter than your GE Profile will ever be.
Pizza stones work pretty well. After you try them and get tired of replacing broken stones, you can have a local steel fabricator cut a 16"X16"X1/4" piece of carbon steel. Wash really well, heat it up outside, wash again, and then season like cast iron.
You can do pizza in the grill too, my charcoal grill gives it a nice (to me) flavor.
Anchovies aside, you guy's don't know real pizza. ;)
It's the only good thing about this commie State.
I just had a pizza with some last week. I love those salty little bastards on a pepperoni and jalapeno pizza.
I'm a sausage and anchovie fan.
RetroRevolver77
09-24-18, 12:05
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The three most unique styles of pizza are New York, Chicago, and Italy from what I can see- as I've had pizza in all three places. I like the simpler real Italian pizza straight from a wood burning oven over ones that are just overloaded with toppings. The closest I've been able to find to traditional Italian pizza around here is either Dewey's or Buca Di Beppo's marguerite' style pizza. In Italy if you don't ask for sauce or cheese- it doesn't come with sauce or cheese, made that mistake my first time ordering. I had one in Venice that had calamari and anchovies- it was awesome.
NY pizza is the only real pizza. #truth.
;)
Business_Casual
09-24-18, 12:26
The three most unique styles of pizza are New York, Chicago, and Italy from what I can see- as I've had pizza in all three places. I like the simpler real Italian pizza straight from a wood burning oven over ones that are just overloaded with toppings. The closest I've been able to find to traditional Italian pizza around here is either Dewey's or Buca Di Beppo's marguerite' style pizza. In Italy if you don't ask for sauce or cheese- it doesn't come with sauce or cheese, made that mistake my first time ordering. I had one in Venice that had calamari and anchovies- it was awesome.
I agree. There are a few places around here that have imported ovens from Italy.
There’s one on Rte 9 in Alpharetta too. Just before you get to Windward.
Sh#t! Now I'm craving Pizza.
Moose-Knuckle
09-24-18, 14:11
Papa Murphy's is awesome. There are lots in Utah. I normally just buy a plain pepperoni and then load it up myself. And I like their sauce. Sometimes, when I have a coupon from a youth fundraiser that gives me Buy One Get One Free there I'll get ones already loaded up.
And they are always fresh as they are cooked in my own oven when we are ready.
We like it, with coupon I usually get a large two topping for under $10. Really can't beat that and agree on the sauce as well as the other ingredients.
It's a take and bake place. You are going home, to put it in the oven.
That's how it works alright.
You should have the peppers and cheese at home unless you live on take out.
I have the red pepper flakes at home as well as Parmesan cheese. The wife spoils me rotten and grades fresh Parmesan for me off the block, you'll remember that from our Brussels sprout convo. The jarred powered stuff you buy at the store contains a lot cellulose (saw dust) in it as cheap filler. Food journalist and travel writer Larry Olmsted has done quit a lot of work in this field. He even wrote a book about it and found that one of the most counterfeited foods out there is Parmesan cheese.
Real Food/Fake Food: Why You Don't Know What You're Eating and What You Can Do About It (https://www.amazon.com/Real-Food-Fake-Youre-Eating-ebook/dp/B01B3VMBN8/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1537815176&sr=1-1&keywords=fake+food)
If you ask they will sprinkle red pepper flakes and Parmesan cheese onto your pizza before they wrap it - at no charge.
Now that is a Real Man of Genius pro tip right there. Though I wonder if you can still taste the Parmesan after baking as much as you could if you sprinkled it on top afterwards?
If that is too complicated, either get delivery or eat-in.
I don't do delivery anything when it pertains to food. One of the reasons the Papa Murphy's business model appeals to us, to eat-in. A part from a local pizzeria owned by first generation Italian-Americans we only do Papa Murphys, hate the chains like Papa John's, Pizza Hut, Dominoes. I do pine for the days of my youth where my family could go and dine inside a Pizza-Inn, order soda by the pitcher, and make a salad form their salad bar. I find modernity sucks that way, I miss playing Pac-Man on the table top arcade at the entrance while I waited for my pizza.
NY pizza is the only real pizza. #truth.
;)
Italian-Americans live all over the country. We have several really good places around us, even a Chiraq transplant that makes a killer Chicago deepdish which I prefer.
RetroRevolver77
09-24-18, 14:24
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This is our go to store bought if I'm not making a pizza. They are more consistent than the local shops make. Just add a few toppings of choice, good to go.
https://www.freschetta.com/images/brick-oven/img-products-indiv-brick-oven-supreme.jpg
Papa Murphy's is awesome. There are lots in Utah. I normally just buy a plain pepperoni and then load it up myself. And I like their sauce. Sometimes, when I have a coupon from a youth fundraiser that gives me Buy One Get One Free there I'll get ones already loaded up.
And they are always fresh as they are cooked in my own oven when we are ready.
YESSSSSS. Sadly they are a big reason why I am so GD fat right now. Great Pizza. And a large will feed a single person for days. If I am not getting real Pizza that is where I am going.
Back to the topic at hand. Anchovies are the only thing worse than pineapple to put on pizza.
Italian-Americans live all over the country. We have several really good places around us, even a Chiraq transplant that makes a killer Chicago deepdish which I prefer.
My wife's friend's parents had a pizzeria in NJ. They are a dime a dozen here. They moved to Charleston and opened one up and are printing money. So yes, Italian Americans are everywhere, but the best pizza is still from the NY/NJ area.
NY style pizza is made with moma's traditional corn syrup and condensed tomato paste from a can. My wife is from the up there and we went to all kinds of "Italian" eateries when we were dating but hey your re-processed NY recycled water makes the taste unique. See any tomatoes growing in the Bronx? Me neither. However in Italy the sauce is actual tomatoes ground up with maybe some oregano or garlic for flavor. It's thin, almost like salsa, but has no sweetness to it at all- very simple. To be fair, I do prefer New York style pizza over Chicago's deep dish style pies.
I don't care how they make it, NY/NJ pizza is still the best.
My wife's friend's parents had a pizzeria in NJ. They are a dime a dozen here. They moved to Charleston and opened one up and are printing money. So yes, Italian Americans are everywhere, but the best pizza is still from the NY/NJ area.
I don't care how they make it, NY/NJ pizza is still the best.Very true! NY/NJ is italian american ground zero.
and whats this rubbish 7n6 spewing about no tomatoes in NYC.... BFD, NY is just above NJ, (resting its ass on NJs face) and NJ is flippin FULL of tomatoes. Damn good tomatoes too the likes of which can only be properly grown in polluted socialist soil!
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BoringGuy45
09-24-18, 16:22
NY pizza is the only real pizza. #truth.
;)
New Haven apizza is king! It's similar to, but unique from, NY pizza.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Haven-style_pizza
Back to the topic at hand. Anchovies are the only thing worse than pineapple to put on pizza.
See post #6. I am telling you guys that done right anchovies are great on a pizza.
Moose-Knuckle
09-24-18, 17:09
See post #6. I am telling you guys that done right anchovies are great on a pizza.
I cannot attest to the palatability of anchovies on pizza but I can for pineapple.
I even use pineapple in my stir-fries.
I don't discriminate against pizzas. If it's made of flat-ish bread with things on top I'm up for a slice.
Now that is a Real Man of Genius pro tip right there. Though I wonder if you can still taste the Parmesan after baking as much as you could if you sprinkled it on top afterwards?
I don't know. I don't care for Parmesan myself so I don't use it on anything. I can't take credit for the Pro-Tip :sarcastic: - all that talk of pizza, combined with a special on an XL NY Style for $10.00, got me to Pappa Murphy's last night. I started ragging on them about the containers and they told me they'd put that stuff on if you ask.
Lately my wife has been doing sliced brussel sprouts, chopped bacon (she takes strips of bacon and cuts them with scissors) and, of all things, cabbage. Actually good, I asked her to do it first time on a whim, and liked it. She gets the bacon and brussle sprouts browned up before adding the cabbage. I don't know what she uses for seasoning.
We just started shopping at our local Aldi's and they have fresh bagged brussell sprouts I really like.
MorphCross
09-24-18, 17:24
Different strokes for different regional tastes, add the fact that taste preference is largely formed during an individuals formative years.
Me personally I enjoy Pizza of various styles from regions all over the U.S. Just like my BBQ.
See post #6. I am telling you guys that done right anchovies are great on a pizza.
I need to try this.
I don't discriminate against pizzas. If it's made of flat-ish bread with things on top I'm up for a slice.
When I was in Sarajevo we had a Dutch soldier (who was from Bosnia or Croatia) talk us into trying a tuna and sour cream pizza. It was awesome!
There were a couple places in Sarajevo that had wood fired brick ovens and amazing pizza.
Andy
BoringGuy45
09-24-18, 21:08
See post #6. I am telling you guys that done right anchovies are great on a pizza.
A (former) family friend, who is 1st gen Italian, made a white anchovy, artichoke, and caper pizza for us. It was pretty good.
My favorite non-traditional pizza though is still white clam, garlic, and bacon.
I find that most tomatoes sold here (Pa/NJ) have no taste. Just acidic or completely tasteless. Occasionally a small farm will have some ok ones
NY pizza is the only real pizza. #truth.
;)
It's that fantastic Hudson river water.
It's that fantastic Hudson river water.
Don't care what it is, it's the best. NYC vendor dirty water dogs are also the best hot dogs I have ever tasted. So there :-P
Doc Safari
09-25-18, 10:08
Just speaking generically, the mom and pop pizza joints are still nearly always better than the chains. Having said that, I have been campaigning to get a Godfather's Pizza in this area. There was one in the 1980's, but it closed down.
With regard to anchovies, Papa Johns will still do them in this area, but they lay them across the pizza in strips.
Just speaking generically, the mom and pop pizza joints are still nearly always better than the chains. Having said that, I have been campaigning to get a Godfather's Pizza in this area. There was one in the 1980's, but it closed down.
With regard to anchovies, Papa Johns will still do them in this area, but they lay them across the pizza in strips.
Godfathers did make some great pizza. They've changed hands several times, so not sure about currently. Ours closed in the late 80's, early 90's.
You mentioned Papa John's. Not sure if it is an individual location thing, or a chain thing, but our location discounts heavily for civic/church organizations. So I make sure to stop in once and a while to support them.
MorphCross
09-25-18, 13:20
Still have a Godfathers locally, along with the usual faire Hut, John's, Murphy's, Cici's (trash pizza), Shoppe, Old Chicago but hands down the best is Minsky's with their hand tossed honey wheat crust.
Been a long long time since I have been in to Godfather's, the Hut, John's, Murphy's, or (blegh!) Cici's. Minsky's, Old Chicago, and Shoppe have the better selection, variety, and flavor.
Don't care what it is, it's the best. NYC vendor dirty water dogs are also the best hot dogs I have ever tasted. So there :-P
I was just having fun with you. But honestly, I've had pizza all over the world and there is nothing uniquely special about flour and water in NY. Plenty of NY transplants making excellent pizza in FL that is just as good. There was even a guy who literally was having bottled water from NY shipped to him so he could make "Genuine NY pizza."
Even Anthony's coal fired is pretty damn good and destroys the rest of the chain gang.
There was a time when Pizza Hut and Papa Johns were edible and "ok" but now they are plastic pizza just like the rest, they should have to share space with Taco Bell like KFC so people know it's complete shit.
There was a time when Pizza Hut and Papa Johns were edible and "ok" but now they are plastic pizza just like the rest, they should have to share space with Taco Bell like KFC so people know it's complete shit.
There was a time when families would crowd the lobby and wait up to 40 minutes to be seated in the local Pizza Hut (late 80s), they didnt deliver, as a matter of fact back then I dont think anyone delivered any food around here other than milk. Its hard to belive now that pizza hut was considered good enough to take a family out to wait for... The old location is a crumbling derelict now and the new "carry out " location..... well, the last couple times I tried it, I ended up with some form of gastric distress
#babywipesareyourfriend
#cutegirlsdeliverawfulpizzatoo
#iwantmyeightiespizzahutback
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but hands down the best is Minsky's with their hand tossed honey wheat crust.
Minsky's was started by the guy that started Godfather's after he sold Godfather's.
Local places/chains are the best IMHO.
In the Youngstown, OH area (where I am originally from) my favorite is Wedgewood Pizza. When we go back to visit family for holidays or funerals I always freeze some and bring it back to TN. Have two in the freezer downstairs right now. Cornersburg or Bellaria are close runner-ups from that area.
There was a time when families would crowd the lobby and wait up to 40 minutes to be seated in the local Pizza Hut (late 80s), they didnt deliver, as a matter of fact back then I dont think anyone delivered any food around here other than milk. Its hard to belive now that pizza hut was considered good enough to take a family out to wait for... The old location is a crumbling derelict now and the new "carry out " location..... well, the last couple times I tried it, I ended up with some form of gastric distress
#babywipesareyourfriend
#cutegirlsdeliverawfulpizzatoo
#iwantmyeightiespizzahutback
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Remember the Pizza Hut "Priazzo's" from 1985? Those were amazingly good but for some reason never caught on. It was kind of a cross between a Chicago deep dish and some influences from Italian pizza (where everything more more like a pie).
Of course that was also back when McDonalds fries tasted awesome, Burger King cheeseburgers really did taste like something that came off a grill and KFC usually had the best fried chicken in town. McDonalds also had a fried Hot Cherry pie that was amazing (why couldn't they keep that and shitcan the McNugget crap).
The scary part, when I was eating all of the above my father and uncle would talk about how good "real" McDonalds burgers used to taste back in the 60s and how nothing beat a good A&W drive up.
I've always found good pizza at Greek owned spots. Plus they always have anchovies.
As long as they keep having pineapple then I'm all good...lol
And I miss the old Pizza Hut BBQ pizza. My local one still had it a few years ago, one of the few that kept it. It got to greasy so I haven't stopped in to see if they still have it or not. Wish I could eat it like I use too...
My memory may be suspect, but 30 or 40 years ago I think Pizza Hut was better than they are today (if only marginally).
Local places/chains are the best IMHO.
In the Youngstown, OH area (where I am originally from) my favorite is Wedgewood Pizza. When we go back to visit family for holidays or funerals I always freeze some and bring it back to TN. Have two in the freezer downstairs right now. Cornersburg or Bellaria are close runner-ups from that area.
Here is a tip on reheating pizza since a microwave makes a soggy mess. Put a cast iron skillet on the stove and get it good and hot. Put your pizza slice in it and heat until the crust gets crispy. Then put a half teaspoon of water in the skillet and cover. This will steam the cheese until it melts.
My memory may be suspect, but 30 or 40 years ago I think Pizza Hut was better than they are today (if only marginally).Its vaguely reminiscent but its probably some special "80s flavor" additive theyve engineered to hide the food crimes theyre commiting these days. In my opinion the downfall of the Hut was when the salad bar began transforming into a pizza buffet. At least they didnt go full CiCis.
A big greasy NY slice of pepperoni is as good as it gets for me, but I still jones for some old school Pizza Hut
Anchovies taste pretty good from what I recall but its been ages since Ive had any, Im not sure when I last noticed them on the menu. The earlier analogy to eating an eyebrow was also correct IMHO
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My memory may be suspect, but 30 or 40 years ago I think Pizza Hut was better than they are today (if only marginally).
It was AMAZINGLY better. The pan pizza, when they used to actually cook it all the way to a crispy crust was something you wanted to eat. In the last 20 years, I usually won't even eat it if it's free. When I moved here almost a year ago, I was hoping that a small town Iowa Pizza Hut might not taste as godawful as what was being offered in South Florida, and it was "a little better" but still a long way from what it was in the 70s and 80s, but most things are.
The move to make "fast food" healthy and low calorie has pretty much destroyed everything. Everything tastes like shit for the most part and honestly it isn't any better for you. Now if I want a cheeseburger and fries I need to fire up the grill and drop some fries in a pan because it's just not worth eating McCrap.
While we are on the subject, I can remember when McDonalds breakfasts were awesome. Even the pancakes tasted good and I generally don't give a crap about pancakes. But add some sausage, hash browns and about 5 maple syrups and I was squared away. I could even eat their scrambled eggs. Now I can't eat any of it unless I want to live in the bathroom for the next four hours. It's a shame, used to be really good comfort food.
In the summer, we used to walk 3.2 miles (just googled it) for McDonalds as kids. That's a long trek when you are 12 and spending your own money.
Local places/chains are the best IMHO.
In the Youngstown, OH area (where I am originally from) my favorite is Wedgewood Pizza. When we go back to visit family for holidays or funerals I always freeze some and bring it back to TN. Have two in the freezer downstairs right now. Cornersburg or Bellaria are close runner-ups from that area.
Awesome pizza there. Ive had NY pizza, its good but they dont know what real white pizza is, or briar hill, or fried Italian greens!!! Killing me. Salvatores is my personal favorite, but wedgewood is up there with the best.
Last I checked a lot of the local joints there served anchovies, Ill have to get some next trip in town.
Remember the Pizza Hut "Priazzo's" from 1985? Those were amazingly good but for some reason never caught on. It was kind of a cross between a Chicago deep dish and some influences from Italian pizza (where everything more more like a pie).
Of course that was also back when McDonalds fries tasted awesome, Burger King cheeseburgers really did taste like something that came off a grill and KFC usually had the best fried chicken in town. McDonalds also had a fried Hot Cherry pie that was amazing (why couldn't they keep that and shitcan the McNugget crap).
The scary part, when I was eating all of the above my father and uncle would talk about how good "real" McDonalds burgers used to taste back in the 60s and how nothing beat a good A&W drive up.I dont recall that but I was fairly young then and my world was small. In my teens I witnessed the brief rise and fall of the "Ken-Taco-Hut" 3 restaurants, 1 counter, a third of the seating, a third of the service, and a third of the taste. Probably dreamt up by Pepsi.
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When I was a junior and senior I worked at a gas station in the summer. The owners son and I were classmates and co-workers. Once in a while we would convince the owner to give us a Fri or Sat off early and a bunch of us would drive the 30 miles, catch a movie and then stop at Pizza Hut. All of us guys would eat a large pizza each. It is just not the same now, I only like Marcos pizza or Papa Murphys any more.
LMT Shooter
09-25-18, 22:09
There was a time when families would crowd the lobby and wait up to 40 minutes to be seated in the local Pizza Hut (late 80s), they didnt deliver, as a matter of fact back then I dont think anyone delivered any food around here other than milk. Its hard to belive now that pizza hut was considered good enough to take a family out to wait for...
I fondly remember those days, way back in the mid & late 70's, it was a big deal, and it was awesome pizza.
But, back then, eating out was rare for most everybody, compared to today.
I dont recall that but I was fairly young then and my world was small. In my teens I witnessed the brief rise and fall of the "Ken-Taco-Hut" 3 restaurants, 1 counter, a third of the seating, a third of the service, and a third of the taste. Probably dreamt up by Pepsi.
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I blame Pepsi for everything bad. It's like a race to the bottom of the barrel as a market strategy.
The thought of anchovies on anything makes me sick. Of course I don't eat any sea food except a tuna fish sammich from time to time.
As far as Pizza Hut being good 30/40 years ago, I agree. As mentioned, we'd wait a while for a table to get it when I was a kid. Now we don't do any chain pizza. We have Pizza Hut, Domino's, Little Caesars and Papa Johns locally. It's all garbage.
Give me a pizza from an Italian pizza shop and I'm go to go. There are two really good pizza shops we go to.
NYH1.
MorphCross
09-26-18, 00:37
I blame Pepsi for everything bad. It's like a race to the bottom of the barrel as a market strategy.
You are on to something. Pepsi is a major sponsor of the NFL and with the recent rule changes it makes it harder for defenses to get a clean sack on the QBs. The Half Time show during the Super Bowl is usually sponsored by Pepsi. Yep, you are correct, a lot of what Pepsi comes in to contact with turns to poop.
I was at a local pizza joint the other day, and it occurred to me that anchovies have disappeared off the list of available toppings in most places (not that I miss it one bit). Has this particular topping gone the way of the dodo or do some places still have them?
Anchovies and anchovie paste = Italian MSG. IMO, anchovies are better done as a "secret" ingredient added to sauce. There it makes more sense. Used as a pizza topping, I can't imagine enough people order it to have it makes sense stock wise.
I blame Pepsi for everything bad. It's like a race to the bottom of the barrel as a market strategy.
I can attest to that. I was a manager for PepsiCo for two years and bailed before even having another job. That is one screwed up company.
Local pizza places are the best. Chain anything restaurants suck.
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Local pizza places are the best. Chain anything restaurants suck.
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In Florida Sal's is a chain but pretty decent, better even than some "mom and pops", but as a general rule you are correct. Anthony's is excellent and it's a chain, just eat it there because it doesn't deliver very well.
Moose-Knuckle
09-26-18, 14:28
I was on a lunch break sometime back in '99 and went to my first Pepsi Co. hybrid TacoBell/KFC/Pizza Hut. The mix of the different food aromas was sickening. I walked out and never went into another one.
I'm nostalgic for the old school Pizza Huts and Pizza Inns. Pizza Hut had their iconic stained glass light fixtures above each booth and those iconic plastic red cups. One of my grandmothers even had their holiday glass pitcher and cups set. Talk about your marketing, those images still invoke hunger and thirst in me to this day.
Those light fixtures are collectable now, pics on places like Instagram and Pinterest of people hanging them above their family dining tables at home lol.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1961/29998093067_d09bc79ba7_z.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khSjCF3zTc0
I was on a lunch break sometime back in '99 and went to my first Pepsi Co. hybrid TacoBell/KFC/Pizza Hut. The mix of the different food aromas was sickening. I walked out and never went into another one.
I'm nostalgic for the old school Pizza Huts and Pizza Inns. Pizza Hut had their iconic stained glass light fixtures above each booth and those iconic plastic red cups. One of my grandmothers even had their holiday glass pitcher and cups set. Talk about your marketing, those images still invoke hunger and thirst in me to this day.
Those light fixtures are collectable now, pics on places like Instagram and Pinterest of people hanging them above their family dining tables at home lol.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khSjCF3zTc0
Man I had forgotten about those red cups at Pizza Hut.
LMT Shooter
09-26-18, 21:29
I played my first video game at Pizza Hut, Pac-Man, the kind where the screen was like a table top, I don't know what that's called. I loved those diners out with the family. Those experiences defined what pizza ought to be, to me.
Averageman
09-26-18, 21:38
I played my first video game at Pizza Hut, Pac-Man, the kind where the screen was like a table top, I don't know what that's called. I loved those diners out with the family. Those experiences defined what pizza ought to be, to me.
My HS girlfriend, who is now my Wife was an Ace at "Space Invaders" at the local "Hut".
Best Pizza I ever had was "Don's Pizza" out of Lowell Indiana. great flavors, thin crust and great service.
Fish with hair.....no thanks. Rays famous in NYC or Giordanos in Chicago.....oh, can’t be beat IMO. Table top pac man and galaxia video games bring back a lot of memories.....TRON anyone?
I was on a lunch break sometime back in '99 and went to my first Pepsi Co. hybrid TacoBell/KFC/Pizza Hut. The mix of the different food aromas was sickening. I walked out and never went into another one.
I'm nostalgic for the old school Pizza Huts and Pizza Inns. Pizza Hut had their iconic stained glass light fixtures above each booth and those iconic plastic red cups. One of my grandmothers even had their holiday glass pitcher and cups set. Talk about your marketing, those images still invoke hunger and thirst in me to this day.
Those light fixtures are collectable now, pics on places like Instagram and Pinterest of people hanging them above their family dining tables at home lol.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1961/29998093067_d09bc79ba7_z.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khSjCF3zTc0
Man I had forgotten about those red cups at Pizza Hut.
I remember their stained glass lights and red cups!
NYH1.
I played my first video game at Pizza Hut, Pac-Man, the kind where the screen was like a table top, I don't know what that's called. I loved those diners out with the family. Those experiences defined what pizza ought to be, to me.
Same here with the video game. A quarter a game.
NYH1.
I played my first video game at Pizza Hut, Pac-Man, the kind where the screen was like a table top, I don't know what that's called. I loved those diners out with the family. Those experiences defined what pizza ought to be, to me.
My Dad had an original table top Pac Man in his waiting room (set for free play) going back to 1981 as well as a stand up Asteroids. Every time we took out the trash at his office I probably spent 10 minutes playing video games.
Sadly both got lost related to his divorce.
Yeah, I used to love to go to the "Shakey's Pizza" in New Hampshire as a kid for all the same reasons as here. Pizza, pitchers of root beer, and a small video game room to spend time in when I had a few quarters. Mostly "Space Invaders."
Doc Safari
09-27-18, 15:11
Yeah, I used to love to go to the "Shakey's Pizza" in New Hampshire as a kid for all the same reasons as here. Pizza, pitchers of root beer, and a small video game room to spend time in when I had a few quarters. Mostly "Space Invaders."
My one experience with Shakey's was in El Paso, Texas in the late '70's I think. The restaurant was very run-down. The air conditioning was inadequate for a hot summer day. No ice in my iced tea, and the pizza was only mediocre. I think my dad was pissed that my brother and I had talked him into taking us there.
My one experience with Shakey's was in El Paso, Texas in the late '70's I think. The restaurant was very run-down. The air conditioning was inadequate for a hot summer day. No ice in my iced tea, and the pizza was only mediocre. I think my dad was pissed that my brother and I had talked him into taking us there.
I won't claim the Shakey's pizza was great. I don't remember. It probably was mediocre "chain" pizza. This was the mid to late 70s and for a 10-13 year old boy, pizza is pizza, and they had cartoons and stuff running and video games. And as we did not go out all that often, it was a fun time!
I'm nostalgic for the old school Pizza Huts and Pizza Inns. Pizza Hut had their iconic stained glass light fixtures above each booth and those iconic plastic red cups. One of my grandmothers even had their holiday glass pitcher and cups set. Talk about your marketing, those images still invoke hunger and thirst in me to this day.
They had 3 piece jar candles on every table when I was a teenager. we (kids) might have taken a couple.
The thing I miss most about PH is their old style cavitini, they don't have it at the local locations, don't know about system wide.
I won't claim the Shakey's pizza was great. I don't remember. It probably was mediocre "chain" pizza. This was the mid to late 70s and for a 10-13 year old boy, pizza is pizza, and they had cartoons and stuff running and video games. And as we did not go out all that often, it was a fun time!
'We serve fun at Shakey's, also pizza...'
Doc Safari
09-27-18, 16:40
BTW I think it should be illegal for Chucky Cheese to refer to the crap they serve as "pizza."
There used to be a chain called "Pizza Inn", but they must have folded long ago.
Doc Safari
09-27-18, 17:31
There used to be a chain called "Pizza Inn", but they must have folded long ago.
I remember them. Decent buffet. Not sure what happened to them.
There used to be a chain called "Pizza Inn", but they must have folded long ago.
They're still around, there's one near me. I think I read somewhere they have around 150 locations nation wide, so not a big chain.
http://www.pizzainn.com/locations/
Moose-Knuckle
09-27-18, 18:02
There used to be a chain called "Pizza Inn", but they must have folded long ago.
Yeah I mentioned them earlier, they were our go to place as a family when I was a kid. Pac-Man table top arcade, salad bar, pitchers of Dr. Pepper! Around here they were Pizza Huts biggest competitor.
They closed all their locations that use to be close to me.
In Phoenix in the mid-1990's (ish) there was a chain called "Eatza Pizza". They're long gone now, but (IIRC) it was an all-you-can-eat buffet for $3.99, although the drink was extra. The slogan "you get what you pay for" certainly applied in this case.
I remember their stained glass lights and red cups!
NYH1.
And the Juke Box at every table.
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Wow, I forgot about the lights, these pics caused some flashbacks. I did have a pizza hut cup until a few years ago, I suppose someone at one of my parties felt reminescent of it too. The only old food paraphernalia I have left is a minty burger king ash tray
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Doc Safari
09-28-18, 11:05
I remember Ken's Pizza had a restaurant in a nearby town circa late '70's. This is all I could find of it:
https://www.facebook.com/kenspizza/
I remember it was decent pizza back then. I have no idea what it's like now.
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