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LowSpeed_HighDrag
10-03-18, 00:38
https://www.ronintactics.com/store/p181/Sh%C5%ABto_Belt.html
Specs:
Belt Measurement
Inner Belt- 2"
Outer Belt- 1 3/4 "
Column of PALS- 21
FEATURES:
MFG: Ronin Tactics, Inc.
Military Grade Quality
COBRA Buckle
Tactical Load Bearing Belt w/ PALS Webbing
Hook and Loop Inner Belt
Fully Adjustable for Comfortable Fit
7,000 lbs Tensile Strength for Solid Colors
5,000 lbs Tensile Strength for Multicam
TAA Compliant
MADE IN USA
I've had this belt now for a few weeks, and have worn it on probably ten range sessions for rifle/pistol. I've tried the padded battle belt twice now with HSGI and VTAC and just do not like it. I wanted something that felt like my duty belt at work. Hearing all the rave reviews for the Senshi belt from Ronin, I figured I wanted to go with their company. Then I found their Shuto belt, which eliminated the D Ring (I'll never rappel again in my life). I received it quickly, it was true to size, and the construction and quality was top notch.
The Shuto belt comes with a 2" stiff velcro underbelt. In my opinion, it's too wide. While it will fit into most belt loops, it's a chore to get it into a pair of jeans. I'd traded it out with my duty inner belt which is 1.5", and it's much better. Once the inner belt is weaved through the pants, just attach the Shuto and you're ready to go. It's extremely secure, and does not ride up when moving or riding in vehicles.
The Shuto is very stiff and holds gear very securely. The molle loops are different than standard molle, both in width and spacing. You may have a hard time utilizing some molle pouches. I HATE molle, so everything I bought mounts via belt loops. The thickness of the belt keeps all belt-loop mounted pouches securely in place.
Overall, I am very pleased. I would have liked to have tried some cheaper options, like the Blue Alpha Gear duty belt. However, Ronin Gear is seemingly the top of the line, so I am, happy to own something that will last for a very long time. I like this belt so much that, if my Chief were to ever allow us to go away from basketweave leather, I'd buy another as a duty belt.
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Thank you for the review.
As a side note; for anyone who will not need/does not want the integral MOLLE and is looking for a more affordable alternative, AWS (who also happens to be the manufacturer of the Ronin kit) sell the LAB. It's the same DNA as the various stiff Ronin belts, just without the MOLLE sewn in.
https://www.awsin.com/proddetail.asp?prod=50725
Rickenbacker53
10-04-18, 09:55
Thank you for the review.
As a side note; for anyone who will not need/does not want the integral MOLLE and is looking for a more affordable alternative, AWS (who also happens to be the manufacturer of the Ronin kit) sell the LAB. It's the same DNA as the various stiff Ronin belts, just without the MOLLE sewn in.
https://www.awsin.com/proddetail.asp?prod=50725 What's the wait time for just the belt do you know. I tried to contact these guys a couple years back because the Webpage was a mess to navigate : Looks as though that hasn't improved much. I know the belts a good Product and a steal for $60.00 . Just curious how long it takes to get one : I know with Ronin it's in stock and shipping is usually that same day.
The one I ordered in May 2017 shipped within 24 hours.
You can also call AWS directly at (910) 488-2255 Mon-Sat, 1000-1800 EST.
Rickenbacker53
10-05-18, 12:48
The one I ordered in May 2017 shipped within 24 hours.
You can also call AWS directly at (910) 488-2255 Mon-Sat, 1000-1800 EST.Called they are Out unless I want a rope D Ring : Otherwise 2-4 weeks maybe longer : They weren't all that friendly : I called at end of day with 1/2 hr left : I also emailed 2 days ago No response : IYO are they the quality of the Ronin? do you have a Ronin to compare? I assume that quality probably comes down to stitching so anything with molle loops would be heavier Stitched :
AWS quality is the same as RONIN imo. Same folks. But yea comms suck
I ran my AWS for a year or so in my previous gig. No issues. I like that you can put the molle panels wherever.
But if I were building another I’d look at maybe one of the offerings from GCode. I like that you can adjust pouches lower with their molle mounts.
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Called they are Out unless I want a rope D Ring : Otherwise 2-4 weeks maybe longer : They weren't all that friendly : I called at end of day with 1/2 hr left : I also emailed 2 days ago No response : IYO are they the quality of the Ronin? do you have a Ronin to compare? I assume that quality probably comes down to stitching so anything with molle loops would be heavier Stitched :
AWS makes the Ronin kit.
All of my issued AWS kit was top notch and have had nothing but good experiences with their CS; both in person and over the phone. I had questions about a BTAP I ordered and have nothing bad to say about how they helped as well as their patience.
Rickenbacker53
10-07-18, 09:32
AWS makes the Ronin kit.
All of my issued AWS kit was top notch and have had nothing but good experiences with their CS; both in person and over the phone. I had questions about a BTAP I ordered and have nothing bad to say about how they helped as well as their patience.I asked Ronin and was told that's a false Internet Story : One that hasn't effected them so they haven't bothered to discredit it : I agree construction is probably identical : Other then Ronin uses certified Buckles >(Whatever that means) I took your recommendation and ordered the Aws : To try : Currently have Esstac -G-code and HSGI mag pouches : So will see what goes best. At $60.00 That's 1/2 the price of the Ronin. My Friend ordered a High Threat Concealment Belt : SO will have that to compare : Thanks for your input
I asked Ronin and was told that's a false Internet Story : One that hasn't effected them so they haven't bothered to discredit it : I agree construction is probably identical : Other then Ronin uses certified Buckles >(Whatever that means) I took your recommendation and ordered the Aws : To try : Currently have Esstac -G-code and HSGI mag pouches : So will see what goes best. At $60.00 That's 1/2 the price of the Ronin. My Friend ordered a High Threat Concealment Belt : SO will have that to compare : Thanks for your input
AWS Inc is run by Tu Lam’s father. Tu has absolutely used AWS to manufacture his branded kit over the years, and this is not a bad thing.
Reference pic below, taken from the Ronin Tactics website minutes ago:
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I’m not knocking Tu Lam, AWS, or Ronin. I have been issued and personally purchased a lot of AWS kit over the past decade and I also hold Tu Lam in the highest regards. If Tu was able to source a different manufacturer for his belts, then that’s excellent because it can only mean his business is booming.
I hope you enjoy the AWS belt.
I don’t know anything about the AWS stuff, but my Senshi belt has been fantastic, other than the inner belt that it ships with. I agree with the OP that it’s too wide for an inner belt and don’t like that it’s just an overlap style. I replaced mine with the inner belt from a Crye MRB and the pair has worked perfectly.
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Rickenbacker53
10-07-18, 14:37
I don’t know anything about the AWS stuff, but my Senshi belt has been fantastic, other than the inner belt that it ships with. I agree with the OP that it’s too wide for an inner belt and don’t like that it’s just an overlap style. I replaced mine with the inner belt from a Crye MRB and the pair has worked perfectly.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Which Inner Belt is that ?? I was also looking at High Threat Concealment's Belt : I am gong to be working 2 days a week as Plain Clothes Security in an Area School > I need a Lower Profile. But also want something that will hold up at the range : At the School I won't be carrying a rifle : But would like to carry 1 Rifle Mag as a Rifle will be close at hand : But they are being a little to cautious. Administrators either want the stored rifle Unloaded or Loaded and Locked. So we opted to leave a Rifle in areas that we can get to them . But Carry the first line ammo on Person. All while looking like a School Teacher :) I've old and Sold a Ronin (ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS 1 Size to Big) Great Belt . And it probably will work go . So long as I don't have a D-ring : IMO The D ring would make it slightly less Profile
Which Inner Belt is that ?? I was also looking at High Threat Concealment's Belt : I am gong to be working 2 days a week as Plain Clothes Security in an Area School > I need a Lower Profile. But also want something that will hold up at the range : At the School I won't be carrying a rifle : But would like to carry 1 Rifle Mag as a Rifle will be close at hand : But they are being a little to cautious. Administrators either want the stored rifle Unloaded or Loaded and Locked. So we opted to leave a Rifle in areas that we can get to them . But Carry the first line ammo on Person. All while looking like a School Teacher :) I've old and Sold a Ronin (ONLY BECAUSE IT WAS 1 Size to Big) Great Belt . And it probably will work go . So long as I don't have a D-ring : IMO The D ring would make it slightly less Profile
http://soldiersystems.net/2013/11/17/crye-precision-modular-riggers-belt/
Its the bottom one (labeled) in the second picture and the third picture shows it worn. I'm not aware of them being sold separately, but I found that the MRB inner and Senshi outer makes the perfect pair.
I'm not sure how it would work for plain clothes however. I assume you're trying to keep it all concealed under a cover garment? My guess is that the HTC, or other belt paired with a Raven Copia Combo or BFG pouches would be much more concealable.
Pretty nice review at all
rakkasangrunt187
11-04-18, 11:08
I have the Ronin Senshi belt and everything you mentioned above are spot on. I did have some slight issues when I first bought one which I should’ve paid attention to more. I ordered a medium belt which is good up to waist size 34 but they did have a disclaimer stating that you should go up one size. I sold my medium to a buddy and bought a large one along with their pouches. I like the medical pouch due to the quick access with quick pull out feature. Both orders were sent timely as promised. I highly recommend this product.
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indianajonze
11-25-18, 11:56
I have the Ronin Senshi belt and everything you mentioned above are spot on. I did have some slight issues when I first bought one which I should’ve paid attention to more. I ordered a medium belt which is good up to waist size 34 but they did have a disclaimer stating that you should go up one size. I sold my medium to a buddy and bought a large one along with their pouches. I like the medical pouch due to the quick access with quick pull out feature. Both orders were sent timely as promised. I highly recommend this product.
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThe sizing chart on the Ronin site says medium is for 36" to 38". If you're a 34 you should have been a small according to them...
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I asked Ronin and was told that's a false Internet Story : One that hasn't effected them so they haven't bothered to discredit it : I agree construction is probably identical : Other then Ronin uses certified Buckles >(Whatever that means) I took your recommendation and ordered the Aws : To try : Currently have Esstac -G-code and HSGI mag pouches : So will see what goes best. At $60.00 That's 1/2 the price of the Ronin. My Friend ordered a High Threat Concealment Belt : SO will have that to compare : Thanks for your input
Which would you recommend, Ronin, AWS, or High Threat? Thanks
rangerdave
11-26-18, 20:31
Just got my Ronin Shuto today. Very impressed with the initial feel and look. I've already put my edc stuff on it (1911, esstac double mag pouch, gerber multitool, cat tourniquet) and worn it walking around and driving for a few hours. A little more bulky than I'm used to, but comfortable to wear and doesn't shift around so far. I'll have to give a good review after I've had it a while.
Just got my Ronin Shuto today. Very impressed with the initial feel and look. I've already put my edc stuff on it (1911, esstac double mag pouch, gerber multitool, cat tourniquet) and worn it walking around and driving for a few hours. A little more bulky than I'm used to, but comfortable to wear and doesn't shift around so far. I'll have to give a good review after I've had it a while.
You’re EDC’ing a Ronin belt? Wow.
LowSpeed_HighDrag
11-27-18, 14:43
Just got my Ronin Shuto today. Very impressed with the initial feel and look. I've already put my edc stuff on it (1911, esstac double mag pouch, gerber multitool, cat tourniquet) and worn it walking around and driving for a few hours. A little more bulky than I'm used to, but comfortable to wear and doesn't shift around so far. I'll have to give a good review after I've had it a while.
You've piqued my interest.... How do you conceal all of that?
As someone who has worn a duty belt of some kind for the last 10 years of my life, I can't imagine wearing one all day by choice.
rangerdave
11-27-18, 18:16
I generally wear blue jeans with a flannel or tropical shirt untucked, which covers everything pretty well. Wide shoulders and a small waist work in my favor too.
As for comfort or whatever, I'm used to carrying a lot more than just a little gun belt, so I'm not bothered at all.
Weight of belt with everything on it- 6lbs. Whoopie.
Has anyone compared the Ronin Shuto to the Blue Alpha Gear belt? The BAG inner belt seems better and is 1.5". They're both $140.
https://www.bluealphagear.com/product/molle-1-75-double-belt-rig/
LSHD, are you experiencing any movement of the KYWIs and UBL over the Molle? I'm wondering if I'd be better forgoing the Molle...
LowSpeed_HighDrag
11-27-18, 21:08
Has anyone compared the Ronin Shuto to the Blue Alpha Gear belt? The BAG inner belt seems better and is 1.5". They're both $140.
https://www.bluealphagear.com/product/molle-1-75-double-belt-rig/
LSHD, are you experiencing any movement of the KYWIs and UBL over the Molle? I'm wondering if I'd be better forgoing the Molle...
No, I'm not. Honestly, I probably shouldve bought the BAG instead.
No, I'm not. Honestly, I probably shouldve bought the BAG instead.
For what reasons exactly ?
LowSpeed_HighDrag
11-27-18, 22:44
For what reasons exactly ?
I don't use the molle at all, I really hate molle and the Ronin has weird molle as it is. And the 1.5" belt is exactly what I needed.
GetYourBoots
11-28-18, 06:06
Sounds like you have buyers remorse after what was a generally positive review. I don't think you should dwell on it much.
You have great belt. If the inner belt is too wide, Ronin sells a 1.5" inner belt. You can always try that to see if it addresses useability. The Molle doesn't interfere with anything if you don't use it, and BAG has it too. I have the Shuto and no complaints really except inner belt width.
Sounds like you have buyers remorse after what was a generally positive review. I don't think you should dwell on it much.
You have great belt. If the inner belt is too wide, Ronin sells a 1.5" inner belt. You can always try that to see if it addresses useability. The Molle doesn't interfere with anything if you don't use it, and BAG has it too. I have the Shuto and no complaints really except inner belt width.
FYI, BAG makes one without Molle
bikemike555
01-03-19, 23:15
If you're debating the merits of the Ronin Shuto belt vs the Blue Alpha Gear belt, you'd be remiss in overlooking the very excellent AWS Light Assaulter's belt.
https://www.awsin.com/products.asp?id=164&gclid=CjwKCAiAgrfhBRA3EiwAnfF4tjPfYtqarml4UTh9VL3oZDA7snCVXthhXJnDKqDy0D5xOun0yoj_XBoCl10QAvD_BwEhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/7608f42cf427e155cef17e8e81361be1.jpg
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If you're debating the merits of the Ronin Shuto belt vs the Blue Alpha Gear belt, you'd be remiss in overlooking the very excellent AWS Light Assaulter's belt.
https://www.awsin.com/products.asp?id=164&gclid=CjwKCAiAgrfhBRA3EiwAnfF4tjPfYtqarml4UTh9VL3oZDA7snCVXthhXJnDKqDy0D5xOun0yoj_XBoCl10QAvD_BwEhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/7608f42cf427e155cef17e8e81361be1.jpg
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DO the KYWIS and holster slide laterally along the belt or do they stay in place?
bikemike555
01-07-19, 02:57
DO the KYWIS and holster slide laterally along the belt or do they stay in place?
AWS sells hook and loop molle panels which can be added to the belt. A double pistol mag pouch would take up one panel, a rifle mag pouch would fit one panel. Etc. Panel's are $8 apiece.
The LAB belt is lined with hook inside and the excellent liner belt has loop on the outside. Each panel slides over the belt with the aid of a plastic "spoon" about three inches long which stores in a hidden flap in the liner belt. Once seated with the hook and loop between the outer belt and liner belt, the molle panel is very securely situated.
The UBL belt attachment for my holster likewise is kept more securely in place because the sides are sandwiched between the inner and outer belts. I usually run a thigh strap between the UBL and the holster.
The AWS belt is super rigid and well-made. I have a Ronin Tactics Taskforce Belt and two AWS LAB belts and construction-wise they're more than just cousins- you can't convince me they didn't all come from the same factory.
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