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Captains1911
10-18-18, 18:05
I’m thinking about putting together a dedicated 300BLK upper for white tail deer hunting. I’m thinking something in the 10.5” to 12.5” length. It will be shot suppressed 100% of the time. Since this will be solely used for hunting, it doesn’t need to be “duty grade”, and so I’m considering some less expensive options.

One maker I found just from googling is MAS Defense, who caught my eye because they offer different barrel options, one of which is a match grade stainless steel, which would fit the role nicely. However, I’ve never heard of them. I want to make sure the barrel has a good 90-degree shoulder and concentric threads, for suppressor use.

Any recommendations for a “budget friendly” option are welcome.

Stickman
10-18-18, 18:11
I’m thinking about putting together a dedicated 300BLK upper for white tail deef hunting. I’m thinking something in the 10.5” to 12.5” length. It will be shot suppressed 100% of the time. Since this will be solely used for hunting, it doesn’t need to be “duty grade”, and so I’m considering some less expensive options.

One maker I found just from googling is MAS Defense, who caught my eye because they offer different barrel options, one of which is a match grade stainless steel, which would fit the role nicely. However, I’ve never heard of them. I want to make sure the barrel has a good 90-degree shoulder and concentric threads, for suppressor use.

Any recommendations for a “budget friendly” option are welcome.

Since you are looking to go for this one on the cheap side, how far are you honestly looking at taking shots? You might find that just about any barrel will do if you aren't taking shots that are very far. I use a pinned 14.5, but I think everything I've taken has been 50 yards or in.

GH41
10-18-18, 18:49
Since you are looking to go for this one on the cheap side, how far are you honestly looking at taking shots? You might find that just about any barrel will do if you aren't taking shots that are very far. I use a pinned 14.5, but I think everything I've taken has been 50 yards or in.

I'm with you Stick. I've been bouncing around a swamp build for a couple of years. Down here 50 yards is a long shot unless you hunt bean fields. 14.5 with a decent flash hider, A2 upper and FSB. Who needs more in the swamp??

Captains1911
10-18-18, 19:01
Since you are looking to go for this one on the cheap side, how far are you honestly looking at taking shots? You might find that just about any barrel will do if you aren't taking shots that are very far. I use a pinned 14.5, but I think everything I've taken has been 50 yards or in.

With supersonic 300BLK, I’d probably limit my max distance to 125-150yds. I’m really more concerned with the barrel shoulder and threads than I am the accuracy. I was burned once before on a less expensive barrel that I wanted to shoot suppressed but couldn’t due to a taper vs. a shoulder where the mount indexes.

joeg26er
10-18-18, 19:05
If you are going with Supersonic rounds at less than 150yds might as well use 7.62x39 upper and go really cheap. Ammo and upper are going to be much cheaper than 300BLK and the 2-3MOA will be fine IMHO...

Captains1911
10-18-18, 19:22
If you are going with Supersonic rounds at less than 150yds might as well use 7.62x39 upper and go really cheap. Ammo and upper are going to be much cheaper than 300BLK and the 2-3MOA will be fine IMHO...

Not interested in 7.62.

DoubleW
10-19-18, 08:22
I’d look at the Aero Precision options. They have quite a few 300BLK uppers. I don’t necessarily trust them for duty grade weaponry, but for hunting they’d probably be great. They have pretty frequent sales.

sycotik
10-19-18, 08:37
I know you said it does not need to be duty grade, but my brother loves his DD barrel I put in a build for him.

26 Inf
10-19-18, 11:42
I’m thinking about putting together a dedicated 300BLK upper for white tail deer hunting.

Any recommendations for a “budget friendly” option are welcome.

Are you open to building the upper yourself?

I have this barrel: http://www.gmriflebarrel.com/gm-m41-12-5-300-blackout-ar15-barrel-1-7-5r-twist/

I'm using a Silencerco Omega with an ASR 3-prong flash hider mount on it with no problems through about 100 rounds. I don't hunt anything but birds, so I'm kinda wondering why I built it. :o

I have used a lot of GM barrels, very happy with their quality.

BFS
10-19-18, 13:03
Faxon has a 10.5 .300 BLK barrel for around $150 if you look around. Gonna be hard to find a barrel cheaper than that if youre looking for a guaranteed correct shoulder and threads.

Bravo Sierra
10-19-18, 13:17
PSA sells 300blk uppers.

Captains1911
10-19-18, 14:59
PSA sells 300blk uppers.

Yep, and they are the ones who I've had shoulder (or lack thereof) issue with.

Iraqgunz
10-19-18, 16:37
You aren't going to play a rich man's game, on a poor man's budget.

Captains1911
10-19-18, 21:12
You aren't going to play a rich man's game, on a poor man's budget.

Most helpful. Thanks.

Blackhalo
10-19-18, 22:13
The green mountain option looked good, also Faxon Or BA. All 3 are good options around $150. Look used to, lots of people part out .300blk out uppers.

kirkland
10-19-18, 23:56
Ballistic Advantage Hanson barrels look good. I am toying with the ideo of building my own .300BLK upper with one of those barrels.

TommyG
10-20-18, 07:38
Yep, and they are the ones who I've had shoulder (or lack thereof) issue with.

I am guessing you may see similar quality in the other options you are looking at in that price range. There are certainly people that think they need the most High Speed Super Ninja SOCOM barrel to sit in their tree stand once a year looking for a whitetail and you are on the money with getting the right tool for the job.

On the other side though, if you save $100-$150 on a barrel and then get baffle strikes on your can or the upper is a total dumpster fire and won't run or shoots 20 inch groups at 50 yards, what did you save? Built by the lowest bidder has a cost all of its own.

TommyG
10-20-18, 07:39
Yep, and they are the ones who I've had shoulder (or lack thereof) issue with.

I am guessing you may see similar quality in the other options you are looking at in that price range. There are certainly people that think they need the most High Speed Super Ninja SOCOM barrel to sit in their tree stand once a year looking for a whitetail and you are on the money with getting the right tool for the job.

On the other side though, if you save $100-$150 on a barrel and then get baffle strikes on your can or the upper is a total dumpster fire and won't run or shoots 20 inch groups at 50 yards, what did you save? Built by the lowest bidder has a cost all of its own.

Rayrevolver
10-20-18, 09:12
My shooting time is limited and if something chokes its a major bummer. I am all about getting a used $300 barrel for $150 as opposed to a cheap barrel to start out with.

You just missed this AAC barrel for $145, which is a steal!
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?209657-WTS-AAC-12-5-quot-300blk-Barrel-BCM-BCG

Use riverofguns.com or the M4C EE and wait for a decent branded barrel to show up.

EDIT:
Just saw this on TOS. I have no idea if KAK barrels are any good:
https://www.ar15.com/forums/equipment-exchange/WTS-SlideFire-Mod-ssar-15-and-KAK-Industries-9-300blk-barrel/25-1796052/?

CPM
10-20-18, 12:33
I bought a dirt cheap 8.5” 300blk upper from PSA just to see if it was something I’d be interested in. It has shot flawlessly, suppressed and unsuppresses with both supers and subs. It’s on a PSA SBA3 lower now.

Renegade
10-20-18, 12:54
Most helpful. Thanks.

You have been given 3 low-budget options, and nixed them all.

If you want higher quality, you are going to have to pay for it. There is no free lunch.

CDR_Glock
10-20-18, 13:00
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Here’s my AR-15 pistol. Without the Suppressor I have about $1200 in it.

The Suppressor is titanium and it’s $1150.

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daddyusmaximus
10-20-18, 14:17
I went with the Wilson Combat 11.3" barrel, and it shoots extremely well. I only shoot it unsuppressed, and with supersonic ammo. I use whatever 147 or 150gr fmj for practice, and 110gr Barnes Vor-Tx as my duty ammo. Mine is a home defense gun, but I wouldn't hesitate for a second to take a deer with it.

https://shopwilsoncombat.com/Match-Grade-Barrel-300-AAC-Blackout-SBR-Tactical-113-1-7-Twist-Stainless/productinfo/TR-300SBRPG11RT7/

Captains1911
10-22-18, 13:38
You have been given 3 low-budget options, and nixed them all.

If you want higher quality, you are going to have to pay for it. There is no free lunch.

The only one I nixed was PSA based on past experience. How did you turn 1 in to 3?

Renegade
10-22-18, 13:41
The only one I nixed was PSA based on past experience. How did you turn 1 in to 3?

You also rejected post #5 and did not respond to post #9.

Captains1911
10-22-18, 14:11
You also rejected post #5 and did not respond to post #9.

Post #5 recommended a completely different cartridge than what I’m asking about, one that requires different mags, bolt, etc. So because I didn’t respond to Post #9 you automatically assume I rejected it?

themonk
10-22-18, 16:34
At the ranges you listed above I dont see a reason to go over a 9". Balistic Advantage makes a decent barrel and the price may be right for what your looking for - https://ballisticadvantage.com/9-inch-300-blackout-pistol-length-barrel-modern-series.html. Cheaper here - https://shop.tacticalshit.com/9-300-blackout-pistol-length-ar-15-barrel-performance-series

Joelski
10-22-18, 16:56
Another vote for Ballistic Advantage, and a vote for Aero Precision (Basically the same thing).

sasquatchoslav
10-23-18, 17:53
I'm with you Stick. I've been bouncing around a swamp build for a couple of years. Down here 50 yards is a long shot unless you hunt bean fields. 14.5 with a decent flash hider, A2 upper and FSB. Who needs more in the swamp??

FL swamp? Sounds little like my back yard palmettos up to your waist, scrub oak and swamp deer. 50 is a reg shot at deer a few of us went to 16" 7.62x39 last year too much fun with subs/can. Crazy cheap for supers, subs not bad on sale still well under a buck...like deer balls. Can't go wrong with either for those ranges 300 or x39. Bow almost over smoke stick for 2 weeks.....then fun time. Good huntin

Iraqgunz
10-24-18, 02:35
You're welcome. I see poor choices in my classes all the time. How great is your low budget choice going to be when you discover the barrel threads aren't concentric and you have a baffle strike?


Most helpful. Thanks.

diving dave
10-24-18, 10:32
Well not sure this helps this thread any, but the other day I took a deer with my AAC SBR.(9.5 inch barrel) Loaded up a Nosler 125 ballistic tip, 78 yard shot. Did the trick.

uncleducky
06-23-19, 04:12
Just curious, what pistol setup using 300 blk would you guys recommend for wild pigs?

joeg26er
06-23-19, 07:20
Depends on size of hogs and shot placement
There’s Several hog hunting videos discussing and showing how different 300 blackout loads behave
They seem to indicate a preference for higher velocity or hard penetrators that are also designed for expansion

ndmiller
06-23-19, 11:15
I bought a DSG Black Friday special 300 BLK upper and have been shooting it for years now, just about MOA with good ammunition. I believe Seekins put it together for them and it was <$500, but my 2 year old recollection could be wrong.

Noah