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I have (2) 556 guns and a 556 socom mini2 that goes on either.
I have a 7.62 Ak and will be purchasing a 308 or 6.5 CM bolt gun
May get a 308 semi down the road.
I understand that the 7.62 socom mini is loud on 556.
I understand AKs dont suppress well.
Im looking for a 7.62 supressor mainly for a bolt gun and possibly a 308 semi, that can be used on the ak and 2 556 guns “in a pinch.”
Is the 7.62socom mini a good option? The 300sps would be preferred if it wasnt 8” long
Should I forget 556 compatability and go with a different “platform” for the 308 rifles?
gunnerblue
10-30-18, 20:41
I use a Silencerco Omega primarily in direct thread mode with 6.5 and .300 caliber bolt guns. I also have Dead Air’s KeyMo adapter so I can easily swap the can to my 6.5, .308 and 5.56 AR’s (all equipped with Dead Air flash hiders). Performance is very good across all platforms. I have dedicated 5.56 cans, but the Omega is convient to have in a pinch.
While I do have some dedicated cans, I absolutely love my Optimus for its versatility. Sound suppression on any caliber is decent & POI shift, if any, is minimal.
One thing to note on the AKs before you go too far down the rabbit hole, is the muzzle thread concentricity. I have three AKs & I was set on suppressing them, but after buying suppressor mounts, I quickly learned that the bore alignment with the can was off terribly on all three. A baffle strike was imminent. I tried tweaking a few things to bring it close but wasn’t successful.
You may want to just double check that before you get too far along with it.
While I do have some dedicated cans, I absolutely love my Optimus for its versatility. Sound suppression on any caliber is decent & POI shift, if any, is minimal.
One thing to note on the AKs before you go too far down the rabbit hole, is the muzzle thread concentricity. I have three AKs & I was set on suppressing them, but after buying suppressor mounts, I quickly learned that the bore alignment with the can was off terribly on all three. A baffle strike was imminent. I tried tweaking a few things to bring it close but wasn’t successful.
You may want to just double check that before you get too far along with it.
I've run into this. Seems the 74 and modern 100 series work better with suppressors due to larger threads and even then you still need to run a AK friendly suppressor. I also don't think a "mini" is going to achieve much as a "one for all" suppressor.
The ak is a junk project gun. Im cutting, threading and perming a muzzle device on it myself.
If threads dont turn out coencentric, I wont be suppressing it. Guess I could wait and see. If it doesnt work, maybe Ill just get a thunderbeast7.
I have run my Sandman S with the 30 caliber end cap on all of my 5.56 rifles including sbrs as well as 300 Blackout and a 308 bolt gun. It has not disappointed. I only know enough about AKs to pick one up and make it go boom so I can't help you there. It has been solid across many hosts with either their flash hider or muzzle brake mounts. This was my first can so I went hog wild with muzzle devices so I could try it on everything.
What's your main want out of the can? DB numbers?
I've got a SF 7.62 Mini and a 300 SPS. Both cans weigh 18 ounces on my scale despite the SPS being a little longer... it's not quite 8" either. I really don't use either of them and honestly put together a 8" 300 Blk just so the SPS had a place to live(It does great on the 300 blk)
SF has been passed up and mainly lives on the fact they have the .mil contracts IMO. Keep hoping they come out with something new since I've got a BUNCH of their Socom mounts.
Bunch of good cans to choose from...
DA Nomad, DA sandmans, EA vox, Tbac Ultra 7, Rugged Micro30(Just ordered myself), Sico Omega etc..
IMO the Rugged Micro 30 is pretty hard to beat. But if you want something more precision oriented than I'd look at the DA Nomad, Tbac or Even Sico Omega. My Omega weighs 12 ounces exactly with a Titanium Griffin Taper Adapter and Titanium End Cap and mostly lives on my 6.5 CM Bolt gun.
What's your main want out of the can? DB numbers?
Just looking to get the report at or below 140ish(i know the bullet produces something like that itself).
Goals are:
Poi shift
Durability
Size/weight
Signiture reduction
Db
Zero interest in 300blk
dangrullon87
11-07-18, 07:41
Just looking to get the report at or below 140ish(i know the bullet produces something like that itself).
Goals are:
Poi shift
Durability
Size/weight
Signiture reduction
Db
Zero interest in 300blk
Have you checked out OSS? I just bought the 7.62 helix QD and it rocks on my scar 17. Little to no blowback into the chamber, they claim about 139 at shooters ear but I find it slightly quieter than my buddies surefire RC2 which is supposed to be 137db. We were shooting 147gr standard mil ball. Weight is reasonable and construction is solid. You can also use it on your 5.56/300 BLK. No first round pop noticeable or flash at all.
Have you checked out OSS? I just bought the 7.62 helix QD and it rocks on my scar 17. Little to no blowback into the chamber, they claim about 139 at shooters ear but I find it slightly quieter than my buddies surefire RC2 which is supposed to be 137db. We were shooting 147gr standard mil ball. Weight is reasonable and construction is solid. You can also use it on your 5.56/300 BLK. No first round pop noticeable or flash at all.
I would take the Helix QD over any other suppressor on the market right now, especially for a semi auto.
rakkasangrunt187
11-07-18, 22:00
Might be pricey and doesn’t get much attention but the Sig SRD 7.62 Titanium is worth it IMO.
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Might be pricey and doesn’t get much attention but the Sig SRD 7.62 Titanium is worth it IMO.
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I have a bunch of cans and once they are on the guns and I am shooting, I don't notice much difference. I just put my ancient AAC 7.62SDN on my RPR and it worked fine. I like the Sig cans pretty good and their SS 7.62 is stout and pretty compact in design, smaller but heavier than the Ti model. Either would be good.
PB
The 7.62 Mini is surprisingly OKish on short 5.56's I think, but you're not going to mistake it for a larger or 5.56-specific can.
I'm going to cough up what might be an unpopular opinion: Sico has historically great customer service, and I hope and expect they continue to. But ...
- Their build quality took a huge nosedive with the 41F rush and the subsequent slump, although I haven't seen any of their most recent stuff to get an idea if it's recovered. Cans with fingerprints in the cerakote, soft muzzle devices, etc. Comparing the same model can made a year or two apart is pretty telling.
- I am extremely unimpressed with the Omega in particular. It sounds great on a lot of rifles, but I honestly think they told people "X barrel length" and "full auto rated" knowing that most people wouldn't actually use them that hard, and if they did the design would facilitate relatively easy warranty service. It would be nice to swap mounts without the outer sleeve coming off, and what is under the sleeve looks like it was finished with a belt sander. I think it would be a decent value for a light, good-sounding can if it was $500-some bucks. At $800+ plus stamp, I don't see how the value is there when compared to other options on the market.
I bring this up because a lot of people like their Omegas, and it's hard to have a .30 cal can discussion without them coming up.
The 7.62 Mini is surprisingly OKish on short 5.56's I think, but you're not going to mistake it for a larger or 5.56-specific can.
I'm going to cough up what might be an unpopular opinion: Sico has historically great customer service, and I hope and expect they continue to. But ...
- Their build quality took a huge nosedive with the 41F rush and the subsequent slump, although I haven't seen any of their most recent stuff to get an idea if it's recovered. Cans with fingerprints in the cerakote, soft muzzle devices, etc. Comparing the same model can made a year or two apart is pretty telling.
- I am extremely unimpressed with the Omega in particular. It sounds great on a lot of rifles, but I honestly think they told people "X barrel length" and "full auto rated" knowing that most people wouldn't actually use them that hard, and if they did the design would facilitate relatively easy warranty service. It would be nice to swap mounts without the outer sleeve coming off, and what is under the sleeve looks like it was finished with a belt sander. I think it would be a decent value for a light, good-sounding can if it was $500-some bucks. At $800+ plus stamp, I don't see how the value is there when compared to other options on the market.
I bring this up because a lot of people like their Omegas, and it's hard to have a .30 cal can discussion without them coming up.
It was an interesting can at the time and for it's modularity. That being said, I agree with everything you said and believe the market has moved on. It would not be on my list today unless you need the modularity.
Im not considering modular cans for this purpose.
Im leaning heavy towards SF due to poi shift, and durability, and compatability.
To go another direction, I need a good, use-based reason- like significant weight reduction with no drawbacks.
I guess some comes down to sound. I hear horror stories about the mini being loud with 300blk, but no complaints for 308.
Is the signiture/sound reduction competitive on 20”+ barreled 308/6.5 guns?
Fwiw, Im happy with my mini556 on an 11.5” barrel.
Furbyballer
11-13-18, 05:47
I would definitely go after either a sandman s or the new nomad from dead air. Both will give you predictable poi, durability through the roof, and both work great on 556 guns; especially if you change out the end cap. The nomad reminds me of a Q can but I dont need to hold my nose to purchase. Also, the tone on the dead air cans is very hard to beat.
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The sandman S looks good. Then again its similar weight/size if the 762 minisocom.
I like the idea of stelite baffles on the sandman.
Nomad is SS and Ti. I thought those materials for light duty silencers. I wont be doing multiple mag dumps, but could a Ti silencer stand up to FA?
The sandman S looks good. Then again its similar weight/size if the 762 minisocom.
I like the idea of stelite baffles on the sandman.
Nomad is SS and Ti. I thought those materials for light duty silencers. I wont be doing multiple mag dumps, but could a Ti silencer stand up to FA?
No idea with the dead air but my SIG 762 Ti has been beat to hell with multiple mag dumps and classes through it (556, 300blk, 762). No worse for wear at all. Definitely one of my all time favorite cans that has an excellent tone.
Tbac looks interesting. Id be willing to give some ruggedness for half the weight.
The sig is still 17oz, besides db, what does it offer over the socom?
Interesting
Tbac looks interesting. Id be willing to give some ruggedness for half the weight.
The sig is still 17oz, besides db, what does it offer over the socom?
Interesting
Db and tone.
Furbyballer
11-13-18, 10:32
The sandman S looks good. Then again its similar weight/size if the 762 minisocom.
I like the idea of stelite baffles on the sandman.
Nomad is SS and Ti. I thought those materials for light duty silencers. I wont be doing multiple mag dumps, but could a Ti silencer stand up to FA?Check out capital armory's review of the nomad. They dumped multiple full auto mag dumps through it and only fried some cerakote haha. I think it will handle anything semi you throw at it. DA also claims their new baffle design will handle back pressure even better, Especially with 556.
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