View Full Version : Georgia candidate for Gov., Stacy Abrams, "I'll ban the AR-15"
FlyingHunter
11-01-18, 19:24
Video of remarks here:
https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/30/stacey-abrams-ban-ar-15-confiscation/
The race is very close:
The newest NBC News/Marist College poll shows that Republican Brian Kemp and Democrat Stacey Abrams are virtually tied in the Georgia gubernatorial race. Kemp is leading Abrams among likely voters 46 percent to 45 percent, in the poll. Libertarian Ted Metz garnered support from 4 percent of likely voters.
morbidbattlecry
11-01-18, 19:57
Video of remarks here:
https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/30/stacey-abrams-ban-ar-15-confiscation/
The race is very close:
The newest NBC News/Marist College poll shows that Republican Brian Kemp and Democrat Stacey Abrams are virtually tied in the Georgia gubernatorial race. Kemp is leading Abrams among likely voters 46 percent to 45 percent, in the poll. Libertarian Ted Metz garnered support from 4 percent of likely voters.
Oh i see the Democrats don't want to win.
The_War_Wagon
11-01-18, 20:01
Georgia candidate for Gov., Stacy Abrams, "I'll ban the AR-15"
I see she's already operating under a "functional brain cell" ban, bless her heart. :rolleyes:
With everything she has said and done I don't understand why this race is so close. No place is safe (2A wise) anymore.
With everything she has said and done I don't understand why this race is so close. No place is safe (2A wise) anymore.
Kind of what I was thinking. It's gonna get worse before it gets better IMHO.
The polls show Morrisey trailing Manchin here in West Virginia. Morrisey has been a damn good Attorney General for West Virginia, and Manchin spent the better part of his term stuck under Obummers desk. I just don't see it being that lopsided, and I'll honestly be shocked if he wins over Morrisey. Myself and a lot of other people I know don't participate in polls. I hope these mid term polls end up being exactly like the 2016 polls! Dead ass wrong and full of liberal tears!
You don't vote for someone like Stacey Abrams just so she can make history and run the state of Georgia into the ground and take away peoples second amendment rights. Put bluntly, she is in way over her head and is incompetent for the job.
Averageman
11-01-18, 23:57
Does she understand how the Constitution works and what powers she will have or is she aware and still feels this lie will get her votes?
Takes a lot of balls to walk into a firearms saturated state and talk about bans.
That's like Republicans going to CA and announcing they are going to outlaw homosexuality.
Business_Casual
11-02-18, 05:20
Does she understand how the Constitution works and what powers she will have or is she aware and still feels this lie will get her votes?
You’ve obviously spent little time around people from Georgia. This is the state where a freeway caught fire.
Does the governor have some executive authority I am not aware of? Last I checked, Republicans were firmly in control.
PatrioticDisorder
11-02-18, 07:24
Takes a lot of balls to walk into a firearms saturated state and talk about bans.
That's like Republicans going to CA and announcing they are going to outlaw homosexuality.
This stereotype of Republicans has always bothered me. I’m sure there are a few of the so called “religious right” that wouldn’t mind outlawed homosexuality, but in 2018 I’m pretty sure 95%+ of Republicans could give less than a shit about homosexuality. This is just another straw man/bogeyman argument the statists make to get mindless sheep to vote for them and the entirety of their statist agenda.
Outlander Systems
11-02-18, 07:42
I'm just going to leave this here:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwrD0QoXAAE2ryH.jpg
The Gap-Toothed Communist ain't gonna win. I distinctly remember when unholy sums of money poured into this state from other states to buy a Congressional Seat for John Ossoff. He got his ass handed to him by Karen Handel.
Socialist Stacey ain't gonna win.
Does the governor have some executive authority I am not aware of? Last I checked, Republicans were firmly in control.
I'm just going to leave this here:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CwrD0QoXAAE2ryH.jpg
The Gap-Toothed Communist ain't gonna win. I distinctly remember when unholy sums of money poured into this state from other states to buy a Congressional Seat for John Ossoff. He got his ass handed to him by Karen Handel.
Socialist Stacey ain't gonna win.
I sure hope you're right... Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
Kemp is leading by 1.1% according to RCP. Based on the dumb shit she has said it should be 11%, but it ain't.
Outlander Systems
11-02-18, 09:29
Daily reminder that polls are a weaponized form of Information Operations.
They're aren't intended to inform, but to influence.
Kemp is leading by 1.1% according to RCP. Based on the dumb shit she has said it should be 11%, but it ain't.
Daily reminder that polls are a weaponized form of Information Operations.
They're aren't intended to inform, but to influence.
Yup, make Rs feel comfortable and motivate Dems to show up. Just another tool they try to use.
This stereotype of Republicans has always bothered me. I’m sure there are a few of the so called “religious right” that wouldn’t mind outlawed homosexuality, but in 2018 I’m pretty sure 95%+ of Republicans could give less than a shit about homosexuality. This is just another straw man/bogeyman argument the statists make to get mindless sheep to vote for them and the entirety of their statist agenda.
Wasn't stereotyping. Just saying it would be AS unacceptable.
Straight Shooter
11-02-18, 19:58
MY DUDES- CHILLAX. WE..GOT..THIS.
She won't win. Gun control is a losing platform. Every time a Dem jumps up and down shaking their fist about gun control, they lose. Ask Hillary. Even most Dem voters don't want you taking their guns away. I've run across quite a lot of closet gun owners in recent years. Shhh... They don't want anyone to know.
I've spent several weeks working in Georgia over the summer. I don't see how this woman has a chance in hell.
MountainRaven
11-03-18, 00:08
She won't win. Gun control is a losing platform. Every time a Dem jumps up and down shaking their fist about gun control, they lose. Ask Hillary. Even most Dem voters don't want you taking their guns away. I've run across quite a lot of closet gun owners in recent years. Shhh... They don't want anyone to know.
I've spent several weeks working in Georgia over the summer. I don't see how this woman has a chance in hell.
Nancy Pelosi keeps getting re-elected, though.
BoringGuy45
11-03-18, 00:35
Nancy Pelosi keeps getting re-elected, though.
In a hyper leftist district though. Gun control is usually a kiss of death for Dems running in swing or conservative areas.
FlyingHunter
11-03-18, 08:28
What most non residents of Georgia and even many residents of Georgia don't understand, is the political reality of Georgia is two different voting blocks. It's like two states under a singular geography. The urban areas which have seen significant population growth, especially from blue states, will vote liberal communist demoncrat. The rural and to some degree, the suburban areas, will trend conservative America first values.
Georgia is the 11th largest state by population and the fastest growing state in the south. Source: https://cis.org/Report/Shaping-Georgia-Effects-Immigration-19702020
It will come down to voter turnout. Blue state immigration at some point will bleed Georgia purple to blue. We may sneak past this election but the writing is on the wall and they know it.
The fact that the Democrats who live outside the state are pouring Billions into the race has to have an influence.
When Oprah Winfrey tells the Black voters that they are betraying their ancestors if they don't get out and vote (implied - for the Black candidate) and Hollywood turns out to knock on doors, it will have an effect.
It's a shame that people forget that those folks on the left coast and New England think they are all backwards rednecks and ignorant bare footed field workers.
Also, Atlanta's entertainment industry is huge because of Detroit and Hollywood. Why in the world would the Georgia based entertainers wish to bring the same crap home?
I don't have any ties to GA, I'm just so tired of outside influences in politics.
Andy
What most non residents of Georgia and even many residents of Georgia don't understand, is the political reality of Georgia is two different voting blocks. It's like two states under a singular geography. The urban areas which have seen significant population growth, especially from blue states, will vote liberal communist demoncrat. The rural and to some degree, the suburban areas, will trend conservative America first values.
Funny. You just described CA to a "T". Get rid of San Fran, L.A. and San Diego, and we would be the reddest state on the map. There are more conservative voters in CA than in any other state in the entire Union. We are just outnumbered by the idiots living in the big three cities. This same sort of thing seems to be happening all over the country. Geographically small cities with a stranglehold on setting laws and policy for entire states that don't want their BS.
Everyone I know that has left CA over the high taxes and insane liberal non-sense, is not moving to red states and voting blue. They are leaving their homes to get away from the blue non-sense. Further, why would liberal voting people leave their Mecca, and move to a red state like Texas or Georgia where they abhor the people, policies and politics? No. I think something else is going on. I think what we are seeing is the most successful propaganda machine that has ever existed in action. Its a war of words and we've been losing for decades.
What most non residents of Georgia and even many residents of Georgia don't understand, is the political reality of Georgia is two different voting blocks. It's like two states under a singular geography. The urban areas which have seen significant population growth, especially from blue states, will vote liberal communist demoncrat. The rural and to some degree, the suburban areas, will trend conservative America first values.
Georgia is the 11th largest state by population and the fastest growing state in the south. Source: https://cis.org/Report/Shaping-Georgia-Effects-Immigration-19702020
It will come down to voter turnout. Blue state immigration at some point will bleed Georgia purple to blue. We may sneak past this election but the writing is on the wall and they know it.
Welcome to Virginia...... I've been trying to tell people this is how they captured Virginia and will capture the rest of the east coast.
Virginia they have a kicker though in that they have Northern VA as well. But after that it's Richmond, Roanoke, Petersburg, Norfolk... Those Metro Urban areas are BLUE. The suburbs are now Purple at best now. Only the vast majority of the physical State is RED but that gets rural.
It's very easy for them to transplant BLUE people from other cities here. You get your sports, college, public transportation, some sort of recreation, and boom. If you create a job they can come from anywhere. ..... and guess what the radical Leftist Mayor of Richmond wants to do right now..... rebuild the whole central city to create jobs and housing.
There is not going to be any fighting this is a few short years. Once it's all BLUE, it's all GONE... forever.
Funny. You just described CA to a "T". Get rid of San Fran, L.A. and San Diego, and we would be the reddest state on the map. There are more conservative voters in CA than in any other state in the entire Union. We are just outnumbered by the idiots living in the big three cities. This same sort of thing seems to be happening all over the country. Geographically small cities with a stranglehold on setting laws and policy for entire states that don't want their BS.
Everyone I know that has left CA over the high taxes and insane liberal non-sense, is not moving to red states and voting blue. They are leaving their homes to get away from the blue non-sense. Further, why would liberal voting people leave their Mecca, and move to a red state like Texas or Georgia where they abhor the people, policies and politics? No. I think something else is going on. I think what we are seeing is the most successful propaganda machine that has ever existed in action. Its a war of words and we've been losing for decades.
Ditto Florida, we have so many people from the NE who winter in FL it's not funny and guess when voting happens?
why would liberal voting people leave their Mecca,
Taxes and cost of living.
Tell me how many people you know of that feel they are too rich and under taxed.
When the Liberal rich get very rich.... They devour their own. They run them out of the nice little Democrat neighborhoods that opened up mom and pop shops with hard work, .gov grants, and loans. All they have to do with their new money is roll up and take over. Like the song goes... "And he's peeling off those dollar bills.. Slapping them down.. One hundred, two hundred"
If it's not happening in your town, it will. But it's happening everywhere. Hell it's happening in San Fransisco and Northern Virginia. You can't get any Bluer than that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IJgrcEAZ9s --- I can show you this in many places. The people moving in are not moving there because it's a shit hole. Notice the density of the new construction. They are fitting 2x to 3x what was there.
Where I live there were a lot of warehouses, old businesses, churches, whatever.... they convert those to apartments and condos. All they wait for is an area to develop a 'cool factor'. Then it's game over... time for a Liberal mecca.
Why the hell the hard working people that got it to the 'cool factor' point don;t realize who is screwing them, is beyond me. I guess it's because it takes a generation for it to work. It's basically forgotten.
Propaganda? Sure. ... and yes, it takes decades to work.
Taxes and cost of living.
Tell me how many people you know of that feel they are too rich and under taxed.
When the Liberal rich get very rich.... They devour their own. They run them out of the nice little Democrat neighborhoods that opened up mom and pop shops with hard work, .gov grants, and loans. All they have to do with their new money is roll up and take over. Like the song goes... "And he's peeling off those dollar bills.. Slapping them down.. One hundred, two hundred"
If it's not happening in your town, it will. But it's happening everywhere. Hell it's happening in San Fransisco and Northern Virginia. You can't get any Bluer than that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IJgrcEAZ9s --- I can show you this in many places. The people moving in are not moving there because it's a shit hole. Notice the density of the new construction. They are fitting 2x to 3x what was there.
Where I live there were a lot of warehouses, old businesses, churches, whatever.... they convert those to apartments and condos. All they wait for is an area to develop a 'cool factor'. Then it's game over... time for a Liberal mecca.
Why the hell the hard working people that got it to the 'cool factor' point don;t realize who is screwing them, is beyond me. I guess it's because it takes a generation for it to work. It's basically forgotten.
Propaganda? Sure. ... and yes, it takes decades to work.
Not to mention when they start buying up ranches in Western states as well.. Look at all the blue counties on this map, notice how they've taken over just about every ski resort and surrounding national parks in the West... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/49/2016_Nationwide_US_presidential_county_map_shaded_by_vote_share.svg/1280px-2016_Nationwide_US_presidential_county_map_shaded_by_vote_share.svg.png
You do realize she is from CA and the area she represents is a complete democratic lockdown right? Literally the dumbest democrat in the country could run there and get elected.
Nancy Pelosi keeps getting re-elected, though.
If the American people don't send the socialist packing in a big way, then we will have 2 years of soap opera politics.
If the socialist ever get back in power and start implementing their agenda, gun confiscation, open boarders and free money for all. Life for everyone will get interesting.
I watched an interview of Milton Friedman last night talking about the Israeli economy in the 1970's. He spoke of a conflict of Jewish traditions one that was about 150 years old, that of socialism. The older tradition that goes back 2000 years from the time we lost our country. Jews were spread out around the world and by law prohibited from many jobs and activities. Friedman stated this started the free market mind set of capitalism among Jews.
The socialist Jews along with all other socialist are enemies of the Constitution. They must be dealt with as enemies of the Constitution that fall under the domestic label.
Straight Shooter
11-04-18, 06:40
If the American people don't send the socialist packing in a big way, then we will have 2 years of soap opera politics.
If the socialist ever get back in power and start implementing their agenda, gun confiscation, open boarders and free money for all. Life for everyone will get interesting.
I watched an interview of Milton Friedman last night talking about the Israeli economy in the 1970's. He spoke of a conflict of Jewish traditions one that was about 150 years old, that of socialism. The older tradition that goes back 2000 years from the time we lost our country. Jews were spread out around the world and by law prohibited from many jobs and activities. Friedman stated this started the free market mind set of capitalism among Jews.
The socialist Jews along with all other socialist are enemies of the Constitution. They must be dealt with as enemies of the Constitution that fall under the domestic label.
I ALWAYS look forward to your posts, sir. Spot on.
PatrioticDisorder
11-04-18, 06:41
Funny. You just described CA to a "T". Get rid of San Fran, L.A. and San Diego, and we would be the reddest state on the map. There are more conservative voters in CA than in any other state in the entire Union. We are just outnumbered by the idiots living in the big three cities. This same sort of thing seems to be happening all over the country. Geographically small cities with a stranglehold on setting laws and policy for entire states that don't want their BS.
Everyone I know that has left CA over the high taxes and insane liberal non-sense, is not moving to red states and voting blue. They are leaving their homes to get away from the blue non-sense. Further, why would liberal voting people leave their Mecca, and move to a red state like Texas or Georgia where they abhor the people, policies and politics? No. I think something else is going on. I think what we are seeing is the most successful propaganda machine that has ever existed in action. Its a war of words and we've been losing for decades.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/13/cal-3-plan-divide-california-three-states-would-cr/
On a side note I’d be really excited to see this proposal actually happen. San Diego all the way through Orange County is absolutely gorgeous, I’d strongly consider relocating to this newly formed “Sourthern California” state, assuming it truly had a truly conservative government (low taxes, shall issue, stand your ground, no NFA restrictions, etc). A better proposal would be to lump the Bay Area with “California” but that would yield 2 new red states (north and south Cali) so I doubt voters in Cali would approve it.
Averageman
11-04-18, 08:19
Words, words words.
I will believe these Politicians stating they will "Ban" and "Confiscate" the first time I see one actually suit up and start kicking doors. Until that happens it's simply fodder for the folks who are willing to believe such tripe is actually truth.
The sad truth is all of this feel good rhetoric is simply low level drama played out for those who don't know how our .gov actually works.
Socialism and the Constitution can not exist in the USA.
I have lived in a socialist country for most of my adult life, then moved back to the USA and found it was well down the path to socialism.
Capitalism has done more good for more people than any other economic system. Capitalism sparks freedom, which sparks mans creativity. Creativity that cures illness, that makes life easier for the people that live under capitalism.
Socialism on the other hand, brings us Venezuela.
Israel could not maintain the strict socialist system that started the country and become the Start Up nation .
It took 2 things to build Israel into what it has become, first a new IDF unit was created post Yom Kipper war to develop our children's minds to maintain a technological edge over our enemies. Second we modified our economic system from Marxist socialism to capitalism.
All this to say my friends, never fall for the lure of socialism, it robs people of dignity and will stop economic growth faster than $21 trillion in debit.
FlyingHunter
11-04-18, 09:12
Words, words words.
I will believe these Politicians stating they will "Ban" and "Confiscate" the first time I see one actually suit up and start kicking doors. Until that happens it's simply fodder for the folks who are willing to believe such tripe is actually truth.
The sad truth is all of this feel good rhetoric is simply low level drama played out for those who don't know how our .gov actually works.
I respectfully disagree. Ask Australia, Great Britain, Chicago, etc...I think the demoncrats passionately believe the words they speak and are simply awaiting the political strength to deconstruct our constitutional rights, all of them, to enable their ability to control the subjects (not citizens). Today, police in England are arresting people for Facebook post. I bet you could ask the average Brit 10 years ago if they would believe this reality today... they would laugh. Our 2A rights are the gate key for ALL of our other constitutional rights. Our founding fathers knew this.
she was on Meet The Depressed for some free advertising today. Both her and Chuckie forgot to mention that little aspect of our lives she wants to infringe upon. Apparently Atlanta registrations are way up.
.. and somehow one of these brilliant Sunday news show talking heads decided all suburban white women hate Trump. Also that they are stupid and afraid, so they vote the same as their husbands.
Man I would just love to see Georgia destroy her on Tuesday. I don;t know what F. Chuck Todd was talking about but he said there is some crazy law in Georgia that she can keep campaigning until Dec.. Something about a run-off election? I guess that translates to: Even if she loses, she has until Dec. to try and steal it?
She is actually quite well spoken. I wish she was not so persuasive sounding in her comments.
With everything she has said and done I don't understand why this race is so close. No place is safe (2A wise) anymore.
True of a lot of races, Texas (Beto), Arizona (Sinema), etc.
Funny. You just described CA to a "T". Get rid of San Fran, L.A. and San Diego, and we would be the reddest state on the map. There are more conservative voters in CA than in any other state in the entire Union. We are just outnumbered by the idiots living in the big three cities. This same sort of thing seems to be happening all over the country. Geographically small cities with a stranglehold on setting laws and policy for entire states that don't want their BS.
Everyone I know that has left CA over the high taxes and insane liberal non-sense, is not moving to red states and voting blue. They are leaving their homes to get away from the blue non-sense. Further, why would liberal voting people leave their Mecca, and move to a red state like Texas or Georgia where they abhor the people, policies and politics? No. I think something else is going on. I think what we are seeing is the most successful propaganda machine that has ever existed in action. Its a war of words and we've been losing for decades.
That is not what has happened in TX, CO, FL, VA (an outlier because of proximity to DC), and NC. In those states we have seen the job sector bring immigration of liberals from other parts of the country who vote democratic. Case in point, my wife follows a mom blog on Bookface in our city in NC. A group of moms were discussing concealed carry with the added logistics/safety factor of carting around small kids. A group of northeastern transplant moms chimed in at how strange the conversation was to them. Red states that have nice climates and jobs in tech and finance bring these Democrat transplants. And they are screwing up our politics.
If we have to start dividing up the USA. .. If the Georgian Liberals want to move to VA to be closer to DC and the people they so love, I would trade and move to GA.
VA (an outlier because of proximity to DC), and NC. In those states we have seen the job sector bring immigration of liberals from other parts of the country who vote democratic.
VA actually gets a double whammy. We get DC sprawl + Liberal influx. The vast majority of new housing around here has gone to transplants. I'll tell you what else often goes unnoticed. Old school very rich Dems. They are sometimes referred to as apologists for slavery. Not that I condone slavery but times change. We get to live in a segment of it, read about the past and wonder about the future.
Things are not looking good for what I have always known to be the true spirit of America.
WTF!! -- I don;t know of any serious job application that doesn't want a background and credit check. --- How can she not be considered compromiseable and with all her accomplishments why can't she pay her bills?!! WTF!!!
Abrams is one of six children born to Reverend Carolyn and the Reverend Robert Abrams originally of Mississippi.[5] Her sister, Leslie Abrams, is a federal judge in the Middle District of Georgia .[60][61]
In April 2018, Abrams wrote an op-ed for Fortune revealing that she owes $50,000 in back taxes and holds $170,000 in credit card and student loan debt.[62]
This is not some Walmart speaking crack head. She is a liability to this nation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacey_Abrams She is very well educated and ---should not--- have those type debts.
I guess Oprah will pay off her bills though.
And there's the most racist comment on M4C for the day.
QFT. Too much of that BS around here of late.
Fixed it for you... ;)
https://i.imgur.com/RE9iwnIh.jpg
Lol.. you win today!
And there's the most racist comment on M4C for the day.
QFT. Too much of that BS around here of late.
I didnt see race mentioned anywhere. Can you explain the how this is racist?
That is not what has happened in TX, CO, FL, VA (an outlier because of proximity to DC), and NC. In those states we have seen the job sector bring immigration of liberals from other parts of the country who vote democratic. Case in point, my wife follows a mom blog on Bookface in our city in NC. A group of moms were discussing concealed carry with the added logistics/safety factor of carting around small kids. A group of northeastern transplant moms chimed in at how strange the conversation was to them. Red states that have nice climates and jobs in tech and finance bring these Democrat transplants. And they are screwing up our politics.
I have not seen what you are referring to here in CA, so thanks for pointing it out. I suppose only a local like yourself and your wife would see this aspect, while I'm only seeing all my friends leave the criminal politicians behind and moving to better areas like yours. Your explanation gives a lot of insight into what people are talking about, and I understand the problem a little better now.
What you are seeing then is another side effect of the lunatics running my state and all of their ridiculous anti-business policies here. So many companies have fled the state, and rightfully so. I'm sorry to hear that the dummies moving to areas like yours still haven't figured out why they had to leave CA in the first place. I hope that people like you are able to educate/convert them once they are out of this insane asylum that I still call home.
Hilariocity- New Black Panther Party members demonstrate while armed for a gov candidate that...wants to take the very guns they have.... *facepalm* :rolleyes:
https://media.breitbart.com/media/2018/11/black-panthers-main-image-640x480.jpg
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/11/04/armed-black-panthers-lobby-for-democrat-gubernatorial-candidate-stacey-abrams/?fbclid=IwAR1Tx_NEuEdERdLwIpL-2EnR_pl5h8hBHCwyEKsISpGmGLccM4qzPFiLrTM
@Buletdog there is yet another aspect you haven't considered and we haven't mentioned.
CA to VA means a 2X to 4X trade in living experience. $1M cracker box in CA buys you a top line home here OR... a really nice home in a really nice community PLUS a cottage on the river for the weekends if you want. Or a kickass boat .. .or whatever a spare quarter Mil will buy you.
@Buletdog there is yet another aspect you haven't considered and we haven't mentioned.
CA to VA means a 2X to 4X trade in living experience. $1M cracker box in CA buys you a top line home here OR... a really nice home in a really nice community PLUS a cottage on the river for the weekends if you want. Or a kickass boat .. .or whatever a spare quarter Mil will buy you.
Of course that all depends on where in VA... I was stunned at the prices for homes in Arlington.
MountainRaven
11-04-18, 23:10
Hilariocity- New Black Panther Party members demonstrate while armed for a gov candidate that...wants to take the very guns they have.... *facepalm* :rolleyes:
https://media.breitbart.com/media/2018/11/black-panthers-main-image-640x480.jpg
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/11/04/armed-black-panthers-lobby-for-democrat-gubernatorial-candidate-stacey-abrams/?fbclid=IwAR1Tx_NEuEdERdLwIpL-2EnR_pl5h8hBHCwyEKsISpGmGLccM4qzPFiLrTM
What did he do to that SCAR!?
What did he do to that SCAR!?
Spike’s Tactical 37mm flare launcher with a vertical grip directly behind it. Something initially appeared off on the stock and made it seem like he removed the rear sling loop but I just pulled the higher resolution images from their Facebook page and it was just the way he had the sling mounted to it. Other than the flare launcher it actually isn’t a horrible setup.
Hilariocity- New Black Panther Party members demonstrate while armed for a gov candidate that...wants to take the very guns they have.... *facepalm* :rolleyes:
https://media.breitbart.com/media/2018/11/black-panthers-main-image-640x480.jpg
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/11/04/armed-black-panthers-lobby-for-democrat-gubernatorial-candidate-stacey-abrams/?fbclid=IwAR1Tx_NEuEdERdLwIpL-2EnR_pl5h8hBHCwyEKsISpGmGLccM4qzPFiLrTM
Why the "facepalm"? She is not going to take their guns away, just ours. As I have said on other posts the Communist Democrats are not against guns, they are against their opposition having guns. They are perfectly fine with their own personal guards and BP/BLF/ANTIFA thugs being armed.
Why the "facepalm"? She is not going to take their guns away, just ours. As I have said on other posts the Communist Democrats are not against guns, they are against their opposition having guns. They are perfectly fine with their own personal guards and BP/BLF/ANTIFA thugs being armed.
need like button :) YUP THIS ^^^^
What most non residents of Georgia and even many residents of Georgia don't understand, is the political reality of Georgia is two different voting blocks. It's like two states under a singular geography. The urban areas which have seen significant population growth, especially from blue states, will vote liberal communist demoncrat. The rural and to some degree, the suburban areas, will trend conservative America first values.
Georgia is the 11th largest state by population and the fastest growing state in the south. Source: https://cis.org/Report/Shaping-Georgia-Effects-Immigration-19702020
It will come down to voter turnout. Blue state immigration at some point will bleed Georgia purple to blue. We may sneak past this election but the writing is on the wall and they know it.
Funny. You just described CA to a "T". Get rid of San Fran, L.A. and San Diego, and we would be the reddest state on the map. There are more conservative voters in CA than in any other state in the entire Union. We are just outnumbered by the idiots living in the big three cities. This same sort of thing seems to be happening all over the country. Geographically small cities with a stranglehold on setting laws and policy for entire states that don't want their BS.
Everyone I know that has left CA over the high taxes and insane liberal non-sense, is not moving to red states and voting blue. They are leaving their homes to get away from the blue non-sense. Further, why would liberal voting people leave their Mecca, and move to a red state like Texas or Georgia where they abhor the people, policies and politics? No. I think something else is going on. I think what we are seeing is the most successful propaganda machine that has ever existed in action. Its a war of words and we've been losing for decades.This is probably true of most states. It's the same in PA. We call them anchor cities. Philadelphia on the east and Pittsburgh on the west. Everything in between is referred to as Pennsyltucky. The further outside those cities one goes the more red it becomes. Based on the results of the presidential election my area is about evenly split......but then again it's hard to tell since many people didn't so much vote for their choice as they voted against the other guy
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I think that's now literally going to be the rally call of the left from now on. Several Dems are making that s claim.
Why the "facepalm"? She is not going to take their guns away, just ours. As I have said on other posts the Communist Democrats are not against guns, they are against their opposition having guns. They are perfectly fine with their own personal guards and BP/BLF/ANTIFA thugs being armed.
^ This...All day long and twice on Sunday.
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-05-18, 15:32
Gun confiscation was 'just a way to start a conversation'. That's like having a civil rights discussion starting with putting people back in chains.
The DEm Mantra:
-I own guns
-I hunt with guns
-I believe in the second amendment
-I want common sense gun laws
-We have to protect the defenseless
None of which they believe.
The DEm Mantra:
-I own guns
-I hunt with guns
-I believe in the second amendment
-I want common sense gun laws
-We have to protect the defenseless
Don't forget one of the newer trends that's been catching on in the last few years: "I carried an AR in combat so I know better than most that no civilian needs a weapon like that."
Don't forget one of the newer trends that's been catching on in the last few years: "I carried an AR in combat so I know better than most that no civilian needs a weapon like that."
We have a couple of those in CO this year. Our new rep is going to be a gun-hating former Ranger who made gun control a cornerstone of his campaign and has been flaunting his "F" rating from NRA.
When we officially flip blue tomorrow, I have no doubt that a full "assault weapon" ban will be rammed through as the first order of business next session.
Gun confiscation was 'just a way to start a conversation'. That's like having a civil rights discussion starting with putting people back in chains.
The DEm Mantra:
-I own guns
-I hunt with guns
-I believe in the second amendment
-I want common sense gun laws
-We have to protect the defenseless
None of which they believe.
Don't forget one of the newer trends that's been catching on in the last few years: "I carried an AR in combat so I know better than most that no civilian needs a weapon like that."
Spot on. They are certainly consistent in their dishonesty and contempt for the average person.
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-05-18, 17:13
When Dems tell me that they understand the 2A because they own guns, I tell them that is their version of me saying “I have black friends and I know what it means to be black in America”.
BoringGuy45
11-05-18, 21:08
We have a couple of those in CO this year. Our new rep is going to be a gun-hating former Ranger who made gun control a cornerstone of his campaign and has been flaunting his "F" rating from NRA.
When we officially flip blue tomorrow, I have no doubt that a full "assault weapon" ban will be rammed through as the first order of business next session.
Combat vet with the 75th, or a POG who graduated Ranger School?
When Dems tell me that they understand the 2A because they own guns, I tell them that is their version of me saying “I have black friends and I know what it means to be black in America”.
well I have a half spanish/black gay trans friend who is muslim :)
so yeah I hear ya :)
OH sarcasm for this being so true is sad !
What did he do to that SCAR!?
Everything, apparently.
What did he do to that SCAR!?
wait till you see his car :)
WTF!! -- I don;t know of any serious job application that doesn't want a background and credit check. --- How can she not be considered compromiseable and with all her accomplishments why can't she pay her bills?!! WTF!!!
This is not some Walmart speaking crack head. She is a liability to this nation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stacey_Abrams She is very well educated and ---should not--- have those type debts.
I guess Oprah will pay off her bills though.Oh, she explained her debt away.
The short version is it's our fault, white privilege, underpaying her parents, credit card companies fault for sending her those pieces of plastic, etc.
She ran up over a hundred K in credit card debt. Let that sink in a bit.
That after Yale degree and a job as a lawyer.
Outlander Systems
11-06-18, 07:21
She can’t even manage her weight or household finances; how in the hell does she think she can manage Georgia?
Oh, she explained her debt away.
The short version is it's our fault, white privilege, underpaying her parents, credit card companies fault for sending her those pieces of plastic, etc.
She ran up over a hundred K in credit card debt. Let that sink in a bit.
That after Yale degree and a job as a lawyer.
FlyingHunter
11-06-18, 07:32
She can’t even manage her weight or household finances; how in the hell does she think she can manage Georgia?
You win this thread I started. Great comment. I'll vote after work today to help our freedom.
You’ve obviously spent little time around people from Georgia. This is the state where a freeway caught fire.Yep, we build our freeways out of wood down here... (Said while finger picking a banjo sitting on the front porch of an unpainted ramshackle house, clearly inbred)
Or maybe some construction equipment parked under an overpass caught fire with the help of an urban outdoorsman, and was hot enough to destroy the structural integrity of the FEDERAL specified and funded Interstate.
Condescending prejudicial comments about entire state populations, yeah, that speaks more about you than the state.
I'm guessing the very common blue leaning high-density Metro Center surrounded by red leaning suburban and rural counties situation is a bit too subtle for you to understand.
Much easier and fun to insult the entire state. For what it's worth I was not born in Georgia and could live in any state I want. Or country for that matter. And I remain in Georgia by choice.
Don't come here, you won't like it.
She can’t even manage her weight or household finances; how in the hell does she think she can manage Georgia?
She won’t. She will fatten her wallet and those of her cronies.
Outlander Systems
11-06-18, 08:03
No joke. Go to the Northeast, and then come back to Georgia, and let's talk about roadway infrastructure lol.
Our roads here are marvelous.
Yep, we build our freeways out of wood down here... (Said while finger picking a banjo sitting on the front porch of an unpainted ramshackle house, clearly inbred)
Or maybe some construction equipment parked under an overpass caught fire with the help of an urban outdoorsman, and was hot enough to destroy the structural integrity of the FEDERAL specified and funded Interstate.
Condescending prejudicial comments about entire state populations, yeah, that speaks more about you than the state.
I'm guessing the very common blue leaning high-density Metro Center surrounded by red leaning suburban and rural counties situation is a bit too subtle for you to understand.
Much easier and fun to insult the entire state. For what it's worth I was not born in Georgia and could live in any state I want. Or country for that matter. And I remain in Georgia by choice.
Don't come here, you won't like it.
She won’t. She will fatten her wallet and those of her cronies.Following the pattern of four decades plus of black good old boy politics, cronyism, and corruption that replaced the white good old boy politics, cronyism, and corruption that proceeded it.
I don't understand how groups who unfairly suffered under that type of situation up through the 60s and early 70s so rapidly embrace the exact same political dynamic in their current leadership.
It's sad, but seems impossible to change. Which is why you see black families fleeing the city to the outer counties if they can. I'm glad the curse of gentrification is taking place in some areas as otherwise they would be razed like has happened in other big cities. (Square miles of razed areas north of Dearborn as an example)
I don't pretend Atlanta's a great City. But I also am well aware it's not near as bad as a lot of other cities it's size. And that's in spite of the efforts of its leadership for the past four decades.
One thing's for sure, if Stacy happens to win it's going to be an interesting few years.
You’ve obviously spent little time around people from Georgia. This is the state where a freeway caught fire.
http://i.imgur.com/TWmsgIU.jpg
No joke. Go to the Northeast, and then come back to Georgia, and let's talk about roadway infrastructure lol.
Our roads here are marvelous.Don't even have to go that far north, just drive I-85 North into North Carolina and keep going. Worst Interstate I've ever been on outside of the northeastern metro areas.
Outlander Systems
11-06-18, 08:20
Winning!
:sarcastic:
#RootersGonnaRoot
http://i.imgur.com/TWmsgIU.jpg
Winning!
:sarcastic:
#RootersGonnaRoot
The kicker is he wasn’t a rooter. Just a crackhead.
Outlander Systems
11-06-18, 08:54
https://pli.io/2X11XY.jpg
Combat vet with the 75th, or a POG who graduated Ranger School?
Bronze star recipient and combat vet with the 75th. Exited as a Captain.
He wants our guns...
AR15 is a weapon of mass destruction, it must be banned and confiscated.
Bronze star recipient and combat vet with the 75th. Exited as a Captain.
He wants our guns...Kinda like that West Pointer commie.
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Well, she won't be banning AR-15s anytime soon! :)
Why the "facepalm"? She is not going to take their guns away, just ours. As I have said on other posts the Communist Democrats are not against guns, they are against their opposition having guns. They are perfectly fine with their own personal guards and BP/BLF/ANTIFA thugs being armed.
Like most people here (I hope) I am well aware of their two-faced stance on the 2A.
However, the point I was trying to point out (hah) was more this:
Following the pattern of four decades plus of black good old boy politics, cronyism, and corruption that replaced the white good old boy politics, cronyism, and corruption that proceeded it.
I don't understand how groups who unfairly suffered under that type of situation up through the 60s and early 70s so rapidly embrace the exact same political dynamic in their current leadership.....
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-06-18, 23:31
So, she is getting hosed pretty much?
So, she is getting hosed pretty much?
Pretty much. She's losing pretty good, but I still don't understand how some candidates get any traction at all.
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-07-18, 00:56
Looks like it will have to go to the lawyers to get a run off.
Grand58742
11-07-18, 07:17
Looks like it will have to go to the lawyers to get a run off.
More like stomping their feet and throwing a temper tantrum because they didn't win. It's the Democrat way.
Pretty much. She's losing pretty good, but I still don't understand how some candidates get any traction at all.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/07/politics/georgia-governors-race-stacey-abrams/index.html
50.5% Brian Kemp GOP 1,962,547
48.6% Stacey Abrams Dem 1,887,161
0.9% Other 36,706
Averageman
11-07-18, 08:26
I don't understand how groups who unfairly suffered under that type of situation up through the 60s and early 70s so rapidly embrace the exact same political dynamic in their current leadership.
It's sad, but seems impossible to change. Which is why you see black families fleeing the city to the outer counties if they can. I'm glad the curse of gentrification is taking place in some areas as otherwise they would be razed like has happened in other big cities. (Square miles of razed areas north of Dearborn as an example)
There is a term for kissing the hand of the Master who used to beat you, but who has now put the whip in to your hand to whip your own people in to blind and broken obedience to an unfair and unjust system.
I believe it was referred to as being an "Uncle Tom".
But bear in mind, I probably am applying that term in a non-politically correct manner.
ramairthree
11-07-18, 10:03
Combat vet with the 75th, or a POG who graduated Ranger School?
I have made some fairly in depth posts/comments in the past regarding the statist/control freak nature of many in the military.
Some are horrible people.
Some are good people.
FlyingHunter
11-07-18, 11:23
This race is split. Much like our country. It's likely reflective of 2A freedoms...about half for and half against.
Can we just go ahead and peacefully Balkanize yet?
This race is split. Much like our country. It's likely reflective of 2A freedoms...about half for and half against.
Can we just go ahead and peacefully Balkanize yet?I'm afraid if we balkanize we'll have a Man in the High Castle type scenario where our foreign enemies take advantage. In this case, I see China taking over east of the Rockies.
I'm afraid if we balkanize we'll have a Man in the High Castle type scenario where our foreign enemies take advantage. In this case, I see China taking over east of the Rockies.
That's actually one of my primary concerns with a "Civil War 2" scenario. I mean, a foreign power would have to be stupid to not capitalize on large scale instability in the US.
ThirdWatcher
11-07-18, 12:33
That's actually one of my primary concerns with a "Civil War 2" scenario. I mean, a foreign power would have to be stupid to not capitalize on large scale instability in the US.
+1. Been thinking that for a long time.
I don't want to make the mistake of the last civil war and think one good battle and it is over. It was naive then and just criminal stupid now.
Having said that.
I would say the vast majority of the military and police excluding a few NE cities are conservative, and the same holds true for gun ownership in the USA.
But anything less than major blood letting, would not solve anything.
In order to prevent outside powers from capitalizing on it, violence must be massive, brutal and swift. Time frame from start to finish must be less than a month, or we are going to end up in a worse situation than we are in now.
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-07-18, 14:48
That's actually one of my primary concerns with a "Civil War 2" scenario. I mean, a foreign power would have to be stupid to not capitalize on large scale instability in the US.
Ever tried to interfere in a fight between brothers?
Ever tried to interfere in a fight between brothers?
Are they both billionaires with lots of people ready to inherit their wealth?
Coal Dragger
11-07-18, 21:48
Ever tried to interfere in a fight between brothers?
Well... in a way. I went to Iraq.
This notion of a foreign power taking over in the event of a civil war here, relies on ignorance of our own efforts to interfere in and prop up our preferred side in civil wars in the Middle East, in Afghanistan, in Vietnam to name a few.
Those are all smaller populations and land masses than CONUS.
Moose-Knuckle
11-08-18, 01:08
This notion of a foreign power taking over in the event of a civil war here, relies on ignorance of our own efforts to interfere in and prop up our preferred side in civil wars in the Middle East, in Afghanistan, in Vietnam to name a few.
Those are all smaller populations and land masses than CONUS.
I see what you are saying, but . . .
The Democrats don't even try to hide their radicalism any longer, they actually run their campaigns on it. Many in this country would welcome a Russia / CHICOM invasion and work alongside them as collaborators.
I see what you are saying, but . . .
The Democrats don't even try to hide their radicalism any longer, they actually run their campaigns on it. Many in this country would welcome a Russia / CHICOM invasion and work alongside them as collaborators.
Bill Clinton provided hard drives of classified military secrets to China, how much more collaboration do you need? It's not a matter of "would", many are already doing stuff that we killed the Rosenburgs for doing. The only reason China isn't rolling tanks is because they are getting stuff for the asking.
Not saying if China and / or Russia did try and roll tanks it would be a slam dunk. But it would be problematic, we couldn't even stabilize Iraq after we completely took it over. If this country factionalized in a serious way AND a foreign military showed up "to help", it would be a shit storm. And it would be one that NOBODY wants to actually see. Fantasies of "rounding up the communists and restoring the republic" are as delusional as their fantasies of "rounding up the nazis and creating a workers paradise."
Everything would be up for grabs and the best case scenario would probably be a more pure democracy where nothing is certain and majority rules and when you discover you aren't part of the majority opinion then you become a threat to that democracy. And if you feel like that's already happened, you ain't seen nothing yet...wait till somebody decides to fix things.
The gapped tooth socialist is getting ready for a court fight:
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/minute-by-minute-votes-still-being-counted-for-several-key-races/868364574
This looks like the new tactic for the socialists.
Outlander Systems
11-08-18, 07:31
She's mad because they haven't tallied the votes from all of Georgia's Cemeteries yet...
The gapped tooth socialist is getting ready for a court fight:
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/minute-by-minute-votes-still-being-counted-for-several-key-races/868364574
This looks like the new tactic for the socialists.
The gapped tooth socialist is getting ready for a court fight:
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/minute-by-minute-votes-still-being-counted-for-several-key-races/868364574
This looks like the new tactic for the socialists.
Her legal team is on the toad chasing (faking) ballots as we speak. If it’s that close it will be up for an official recount and possibly a run-off election.
On the news the other day someone mentioned she would have a runoff chance. Then the beginning of day there were 'issues' at the polls. Now they need to manufacture votes. This was planned from the beginning. As Pelosi says we're just going to push it through.
I think she will end up winning.
The Dems seems to have elected quite a few unqualified people this go round.
Except she is going to file Federal suits to 'fix the system' so she wins next time.
I have come to believe she is simply a professional speaker / community organizer. I still don't understand how you can be that deep in debt and have her verbal skills unless that's all she does. Which is basically 'talk talk talk' but not really have a solid concept of being able to 'do do do'.
Watch her non-concession speech. Hopefully she is washed up now and will be even deeper in debt.
How is it that Republicans vote on election day and Democrats vote til they win.. Well, we dodged this one but then there is this a$$hole.
https://therightscoop.com/idiot-dem-now-pushing-for-gun-confiscation-then-threatens-gun-owner-with-nukes/
How is it that Republicans vote on election day and Democrats vote til they win.. Well, we dodged this one but then there is this a$$hole.
You might remember in the other thread I mentioned that the very large Chesterfield County had "issues" and basically put the ex-CIA agent over the top to unseat Dave Brat. They opened polls late, handed out wrong ballots, blocked parking with tow trucks... but get this one...... A Judge had to allow two places to stay open late in a basically RED area of the county. When the Election Official was asked about the situation... .the answer was.... Well the Democrats said they didn't care about that particular place.
People can't vote and the Election Official figures it's all ok as long as the Democrats are ok with it.
I'm afraid it's become too late for Republicans to wake up and fight back. Sure we held a key front but it's just a matter of time. The only thing we can hope for now is that the radical Leftist Dems like that idiot you posted and some of the new ones like Ocasio-Cortez will fail so miserably they lose favor. However at some point when the Republicans simply say, hey we don't want to be represented and the Dems say let more of us in..... well it's game over.
The Republicans have two major character flaws.
Apathy - They simply will not vote.
Resentment - They will not vote to 'teach a lesson' or actually vote Dem.
The Dem Party can be considered an army or like minded religion and they go to church on voting day.
The Republican Party is too much about individualism on voting day and often don't attend.
You don't vote for someone like Stacey Abrams just so she can make history and run the state of Georgia into the ground and take away peoples second amendment rights. Put bluntly, she is in way over her head and is incompetent for the job.
She looks like the most competent qualified person on earth compared to Cortez, so it's somewhat relative. Cortez is going to be good for some solid LOLs for a few years at least.
FromMyColdDeadHand
11-17-18, 15:31
She looks like the most competent qualified person on earth compared to Cortez, so it's somewhat relative. Cortez is going to be good for some solid LOLs for a few years at least.
I think that with her district, I’ll be explaining to my grandkids why she was ‘hot’ at one point...
Colorado was interesting, and not in a good way. Colorado isn’t Cali, though it is trying. We went blue for all the statewide seats, and that doesn’t bode well for Garnder in two years. The intetesting thing is that the only state-wide candidate that ran against Trump was the AG, which he had too because the GOP guy was a stone-cold lawyer who was a much better candidate for the AG job. The Dem was all about his ties to Obama and being against Trump.
Watching the ads, when I had to, the Dems ran as moderate republicans. The guy who beat Coffman looked and smelled like a GOP candidate. Polis, the gay gov never mentioned his husband and ran as free market, pro-oil, businessman. The ballot innitiatives- banning fracking and a graduated income tax (even for ‘education’) didn’t pass. The dems control all three house, senate and gov chair, so let’s see how they actual govern. CO still has a libertarian bent to it.
It is interesting that the crazy dems make all the noise and gather attention, but it the dems who look like the GOP that won.
On the Army vet that Coffman lost to. F him. Vets and dems that are anti-2A, but say things like “I hunt” or “I own guns” are like me saying “I have a black friend”.
All this nonsense about "first this" - "first that" is a canard. It's intention is to undermine The Constitution. To at first have it questioned as incapable and finally destroyed.
It is a lie to present the USA as equated to the dregs of the worlds society. The Constitution of the USA has proven itself and basically made the USA the envy of the world. What a clever way to steal it by simply saying our classes of people are equal to those classes all over the world and especially in the most under developed areas. How better to do it than by the richest among us with the most prominent exposure. aka Hollywood and "Journalism".
http://www.pbs.org/independentlens/ -- this is a timely presentation on public access. -- your tax dollars at work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=159&v=kUU9dXhErJY
These wannabes in the USA trying to equate themselves to slaves and silenced women of the middle east. It's absurd. Much of what is being presented by Dem politicians today is tantamount to putting on 'blackface'. They simply have no justification for recent ( decades ) inability to do whatever it is they want. It is not up to the USA to give to them. It is up to them to convince the people they are worthy. A broke ass obese Yale graduate is not my idea of a selling point. She is just like Abigale Spanberger but in VA Spanberger is better looking. Abrams talks and talks about being wronged. Spanberger talks about how she was in the CIA. Both topics are BS. Who cares?! Spanberger could pay her bills and trotted out her three little blonde girls that looked just her. Neither one of those two candidates said anything about making the USA a better place.
Abrams - I've been wronged and you are going to pay for it.
Spanberger - My opponent is a Republican, they are bad. I worked for the CIA. I'm from the government and I'm here to help.
Everything the Dems do starts from the perception of a state of despair as though the USA were the worst place on Earth to live. --- But everyone wants to live here and get free swag.
HA! .. no sooner than I mention it.... Now this is real leadership. This is what we need....
“Can I go in the neighborhood and sell Girl Scout cookies or are people going to feel compelled because I’m now their representative in Congress? Do you know what I mean?” Spanberger asked. “I don’t know what I’m going to do.” -- Abigail Spanberger
“If we’re doing booth sales, do I just put a baseball cap on and hope nobody recognizes me?” she asked.
You see, this is what VA and America needs. This is serious stuff.
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/417270-incoming-congresswoman-questions-whether-she-is-allowed-to-still-sell-girl
Or we could have stayed with an economics professor... nah.... we need 'government mommy'.
Averageman
11-17-18, 19:54
All this nonsense about "first this" - "first that" is a canard. It's intention is to undermine The Constitution. To at first have it questioned as incapable and finally destroyed.
It is a lie to present the USA as equated to the dregs of the worlds society. These wannabes in the USA trying to equate themselves to slaves and silenced women of the middle east. It's absurd. Much of what is being presented by Dem politicians today is tantamount to putting on 'blackface'. They simply have no justification for recent ( decades ) inability to do whatever it is they want. It is not up to the USA to give to them. It is up to them to convince the people they are worthy. A broke ass obese Yale graduate is not my idea of a selling point.
This narrative plays well in the Urban environment, not so much if you're speaking to college educated people who have occasionally traveled outside of the U.S. and to some real oppressive backwater Socialist Utopia's.
The reality of this being the most advanced society and with the richest economy in decades is lost on those folks who have been tuned in to "Poor Me' narrative of the Democratic Party's Plantation.
This is why I really believe we need to surgically remove as many "Bennies" as possible in order to force these people outside of the apron strings of Socialism. Paying taxes on the money you earn has a remarkable effect on who you'll vote for.
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