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Doc Safari
12-28-18, 13:21
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6535535/Trump-says-forced-close-border-doesnt-wall-immigration-overhaul.html
'We build a Wall or close the Southern Border entirely': Trump demands a wall AND an overhaul of 'ridiculous immigration laws' in the U.S. in latest tirade against Democrats
President Donald Trump returned Friday to a threat to close the nation's southern border if he doesn't get his wall money from Congress.
Trump warned as the weekend began that he'll close every port of entry, if he doesn't see progress not only on his wall, but on a total immigration overhaul.
'We build a Wall or close the Southern Border,' he declared.
He claimed in tweets in the last day that Democratic opposition to his wall is totally political in nature and is untethered from their assertions that his desired border barrier would be impractical. The president said they should work harder to end the current shutdown, because it mainly affects their voters.
Trump also said once more that he could cut off aid to Central America as he raged about the formation of a new caravan.
His incoming chief of staff announced from the White House lawn that he thought the president's threat to close the border at least was serious.
My take: I hope he goes through with it. We should have had Checkpoint Charlie at the Southern Border 30 years ago.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6535535/Trump-says-forced-close-border-doesnt-wall-immigration-overhaul.html
My take: I hope he goes through with it. We should have had Checkpoint Charlie at the Southern Border 30 years ago.
The trick is to make it as painful as possible on those who support Chuck, Nancy and others who support open borders. I'm not sure how exactly that could happen, but this fight will continue until they feel the pain. :(
Do it Donald, don't backstep.
just a scout
12-28-18, 15:44
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6535535/Trump-says-forced-close-border-doesnt-wall-immigration-overhaul.html
My take: I hope he goes through with it. We should have had Checkpoint Charlie at the Southern Border 30 years ago.
There’s still enough of us around that know how to do it the right way.
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Question: all these illegals being dumped by ICE in El Paso.....is that because of a law or a judicial edict? If it is the latter Trump should ignore it until the inevitable appeal gets to the SCOTUS.
EDIT: Okay, did some Googling and it is due to the Flores Agreement, which resulted from a lawsuit in 1997. So it's NOT a law. Trump should ignore it. Once the other side whines enough and files suit it will eventually make it's way to the SCOTUS. They shot down his previous order because the Asylum Law stipulated you don't have to declare asylum just at a port of entry; bullshit, but part of the law nonetheless. However, this Flores Agreement should be ignored until decided by the highest court.
Some on here were critical of Trump for trying to do the port of entry thing. Said it was in violation of the Asylum Law. SCOTUS found it to be so. Some horseshit "agreement" isn't a LAW though. I'm sure someone (one of our resident Trump haters no doubt) will be along shortly to say that the Flores Agreement is like a law, even though it isn't one. I wanna see the spin on this.....
I want Trump to quit talking about shutting the border down, quit talking about cutting off foreign aid, and DO IT, DONALD!!! Quit running your pie hole, and DO IT!!!! DO IT RIGHT FU#$ING NOW!
Whiskey_Bravo
12-29-18, 00:46
Shut it down. Stop talking about it and do it. A compromise will either come quickly or the globalist will push their hand too hard. Either way the bandaid needs to be removed quickly.
Shut the Southern border down, make it look like Berlin in the Mid-1980s with the towers, belt-feds and land mines. Turn off foreign aid to countries that want to see us fall, even with my Poli Sci degree I can't understand paying off our enemies.
just a scout
12-29-18, 04:12
Question: all these illegals being dumped by ICE in El Paso.....is that because of a law or a judicial edict? If it is the latter Trump should ignore it until the inevitable appeal gets to the SCOTUS.
EDIT: Okay, did some Googling and it is due to the Flores Agreement, which resulted from a lawsuit in 1997. So it's NOT a law. Trump should ignore it. Once the other side whines enough and files suit it will eventually make it's way to the SCOTUS. They shot down his previous order because the Asylum Law stipulated you don't have to declare asylum just at a port of entry; bullshit, but part of the law nonetheless. However, this Flores Agreement should be ignored until decided by the highest court.
Some on here were critical of Trump for trying to do the port of entry thing. Said it was in violation of the Asylum Law. SCOTUS found it to be so. Some horseshit "agreement" isn't a LAW though. I'm sure someone (one of our resident Trump haters no doubt) will be along shortly to say that the Flores Agreement is like a law, even though it isn't one. I wanna see the spin on this.....
Should be law or policy that you can only request asylum at the embassy in the country you trying to leave. Period.
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Dr. Bullseye
12-29-18, 11:30
Trump ought to close it down anyway.
Whenever anyone crosses the border illegally and is caught, the entire border should be closed down while we do an investigation as to how they did it, what went wrong, and a fix put in place. Until then, nobody should cross. If we do an "Israeli investigation", each may take a year.
A complete closure is gonna impact the economy tremendously...I worked in Mexico for 15 years & shutting down the supply chain wouldn't be wise. Thousands & thousands of US layoffs due to line down & massive market crash is likely. I'm in the trenches & live / see the need for his border security agenda more than anyone, but a closure imo would end up haunting Don & don't see this happening. No real good answers & Schumer has him by the short hairs.
Maybe trivial the way the MSM reports but Don handled the 'gladly owning' of this shutdown poorly...he should have stated 'if the house passes the $5 billion for barriers & the senate denies, then it's another Schumer shutdown. I don't know if there is another person I've ever loathed as much as this man. The fact he's on record overwhelmingly supporting barriers in the recent past & now putting our national security in great risk all over politics / power is abhorrent. Still, we've had decades to address migration & shouldn't even be in this mess. Total fail by our elected 'public servants' going back to Bush one till today!! Sticks in my craw.
Doc Safari
01-29-19, 11:16
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-29/pentagon-send-thousands-troops-mexico-border-wall-talks-begin
Hours before talks with Dems on a border security compromise were set to begin, the Pentagon announced that it's planning to send thousands of troops to the US border.
The troops will augment the roughly 3,000 US troops that are currently deployed at the border. These troops are serving in primarily support roles like assisting border patrol agents and offering logistical assistance thanks to a federal law that prevents the military from carrying out law enforcement functions within the US's borders.
My take: They may be watching this closely:
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-28/mexico-starting-look-venezuela
(O)il thieves have been drilling holes in Mexico’s extensive network of oil and gas piplelines across the country to steal fuel and sell it on the black market.
State-owned oil company PEMEX found more than 12,500 illegal holes in the pipelines last year.
And these oil thieves went as far as building a 2-mile long pipe themselves to divert oil directly from the refineries.
Selling oil on the secondary market is a highly lucrative business in Mexico. And some farmers who take up a job as lookouts for the thieves can earnmore than five times their regular income doing so.
The work is also incredibly dangerous… more than 80 people recently died in a pipeline explosion north of Mexico City when they were trying to siphon off gas.
But Mexico’s new president has decided to do something about this.
And in typical, political brilliance, he ordered the pipelines to be shut down.
So now, instead of transporting oil and gas via pipelines, they’ll ship everything via truck and rail.
There are only a few TINY issues with that solution: it costs up to 14 times more to send fuel via trucks. And more importantly, it takes weeks longer to arrive at the stations.
The result? Severe gasoline shortages.
Across the entire country, including in the biggest cities of Mexico City and Guadalajara, more than 1,000 gas stations have been closed. Many of those still open have limited purchases of gas up to five gallons per person.
And the lines to get to them can reach up to a mile-long.
People have now started hoarding gasoline and re-selling it on the black market.
So much for cracking down on oil theft.
The result is millions of people with no access to gas. They cannot go to work, see their families, or go about their lives as they did just a few days ago.
It’s almost starting to look like Venezuela – the storybook example of what happens to a country gripped by corrupt socialism.
If Mexico is on the verge of chaos, we certainly want to contain it.
Dr. Bullseye
01-29-19, 12:14
We are in a war with Mexico. Seal the border.
The illegals are job security for the government employees handing out the welfare benefits.
The_War_Wagon
02-19-19, 21:13
Trump ought to close it down anyway.
Whenever anyone crosses the border illegally and is caught, the entire border should be closed down while we do an investigation as to how they did it, what went wrong, and a fix put in place. Until then, nobody should cross. If we do an "Israeli investigation", each may take a year.
And the first two budget-mandated welcome shelters, need to be built in Pe-LOUSY and Schmuckle's back yards. :mad:
So who remembers NAFTA? Remember that great Bill Clinton idea where nearly all of American "production" actually happens in Mexico?
Can anyone figure out the "check mate" ultimatum should anyone dream about enforcing, let alone closing the border?
Of course we could just abandon 2018 production and start making cars, tvs and everything else back in the US. That would be fine with me.
Of course we could just abandon 2018 production and start making cars, tvs and everything else back in the US. That would be fine with me.
Sounds good, but then you have to ask: How long would it take to spool up production? What do we do in the meantime?
Side point
I was having a conversation with a gal from a think tank in DC and she raised an interesting point about us being the largest consumers of other countries resources (steel production, oil, etc) instead of using our own resources and the long term strategic implications of us doing so.
Gave me a little different perspective on some things
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Sounds good, but then you have to ask: How long would it take to spool up production? What do we do in the meantime?
Drive BMWs (made in the US), Sharp TVs are made in the US and things like that. We can create a lot of jobs just by cleaning up Detroit so that we can start making anything there again. Or maybe just move production to Texas.
Drive BMWs (made in the US), Sharp TVs are made in the US and things like that. We can create a lot of jobs just by cleaning up Detroit so that we can start making anything there again. Or maybe just move production to Texas.
Is Texas a right to work state? SC, where BMWs are assembled is. Did you know that BMW makes engines in China? My brother used to haul shipping containers to a KIA plant in (I think) Alabama. For those who don't know shipping containers come off of ships. Ships come from overseas. He said many of the workers in the plant were asian and assumed they were South Korean. So much for made in America!
Is Texas a right to work state?
Yes: https://www2.texasattorneygeneral.gov/agency/right-to-work-laws-in-texas
Mine the border and start turning Latin chicks into heavily armed Right Wing Death Squads with OG-107.
Then we invade Cuba.
Then we institute Shakira Law.
Dead Serious. Now is the time. With all the latin countries destabilized...we declare an American Anschluss. We breed the Latinas in the Wheatfields and we kick out every last Red Chinese, Russian, French, and British from South America.
And then we have 50 years of undisturbed isolation.
ETA Don't forget about the crucifixions and legal polygamy.
Mine the border and start turning Latin chicks into heavily armed Right Wing Death Squads with OG-107.
Then we invade Cuba.
Then we institute Shakira Law.
Dead Serious. Now is the time. With all the latin countries destabilized...we declare an American Anschluss. We breed the Latinas in the Wheatfields and we kick out every last Red Chinese, Russian, French, and British from South America.
And then we have 50 years of undisturbed isolation.
ETA Don't forget about the crucifixions and legal polygamy.
There is always throwing people from helicopters........ that worked in the past.
So who remembers NAFTA? Remember that great Bill Clinton idea where nearly all of American "production" actually happens in Mexico?
Can anyone figure out the "check mate" ultimatum should anyone dream about enforcing, let alone closing the border?
Of course we could just abandon 2018 production and start making cars, tvs and everything else back in the US. That would be fine with me.
I remember NAFTA quite well..After it passed, the big 3 auto makers, and their parts suppliers, could'nt move plants down there fast enough..If I recall correctly, NAFTA cost the U.S. something like 700,000 -750,000 jobs that as far as I know, never came back..So, somebody tell me, exactly how did we (the U.S.) make out on this deal? And while Clinton signed it, and again I'm going from memory here, but, if I remember correctly, the bill itself went through congress with little in the way of "no"" votes..
I remember NAFTA quite well..After it passed, the big 3 auto makers, and their parts suppliers, could'nt move plants down there fast enough..If I recall correctly, NAFTA cost the U.S. something like 700,000 -750,000 jobs that as far as I know, never came back..So, somebody tell me, exactly how did we (the U.S.) make out on this deal? And while Clinton signed it, and again I'm going from memory here, but, if I remember correctly, the bill itself went through congress with little in the way of "no"" votes..
We got more cheaply made products and that's it.
Doc Safari
02-20-19, 12:45
While I would love to walk into WalMart and not see the words "Made in China" on literally everything, it's not all going to come back to the US overnight. That would cause huge price increases and all kinds of other problems. But I do think there's a way to encourage manufacturers to see having plants in China as not in their best interest. I just don't know what they are.
While I would love to walk into WalMart and not see the words "Made in China" on literally everything, it's not all going to come back to the US overnight. That would cause huge price increases and all kinds of other problems. But I do think there's a way to encourage manufacturers to see having plants in China as not in their best interest. I just don't know what they are.
POTUS already has that answer: Tariffs
They do it to us, we're just returning the favor, and winning.
While I would love to walk into WalMart and not see the words "Made in China" on literally everything, it's not all going to come back to the US overnight. That would cause huge price increases and all kinds of other problems. But I do think there's a way to encourage manufacturers to see having plants in China as not in their best interest. I just don't know what they are.
Doc, are you old enough to remember department stores like Woolworths (I am 65)? That's the way modern departments stores would look if it happened overnight. You could fill my childhood Woolworths store with what's on 2 isles at todays Walmart. I don't see American manufacturers coming back in great numbers. We are too used to having a good selection at a reasonable price point. Robotics might change the manufacturing landscape in America but will create an even larger dependent class than we have now. Where and how will it end? It probably won't be pretty.
Doc Safari
02-20-19, 14:11
Doc, are you old enough to remember department stores like Woolworths (I am 65)? That's the way modern departments stores would look if it happened overnight. You could fill my childhood Woolworths store with what's on 2 isles at todays Walmart. I don't see American manufacturers coming back in great numbers. We are too used to having a good selection at a reasonable price point. Robotics might change the manufacturing landscape in America but will create an even larger dependent class than we have now. Where and how will it end? It probably won't be pretty.
Woolworths is a little before my time. But I remember a time when a pair of SWAT boots weren't worn out in six months. I remember when you didn't have to wade through a minefield of Chinese knockoffs of quality products. I understand even a lot of AR parts and accessories are made in China. Sheesh.
Woolworths is a little before my time. But I remember a time when a pair of SWAT boots weren't worn out in six months. I remember when you didn't have to wade through a minefield of Chinese knockoffs of quality products. I understand even a lot of AR parts and accessories are made in China. Sheesh.
Check out this video. How many alphabet agencies would you have to bypass to get away with this in America. This is what we are up against! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMIK_fGCSIM Probably making pots and pans for Walmart.
The_War_Wagon
02-20-19, 15:22
We can create a lot of jobs just by cleaning up Detroit so that we can start making anything there again.
The Packard Factory is STILL standing in Detroit. I'm DOWN for a new 2020 Packard! :cool:
While I would love to walk into WalMart and not see the words "Made in China" on literally everything, it's not all going to come back to the US overnight. That would cause huge price increases and all kinds of other problems. But I do think there's a way to encourage manufacturers to see having plants in China as not in their best interest. I just don't know what they are.
Do you remember when WalMart first started business? It was 'Made In the USA' all the way.
Do you remember when WalMart first started business? It was 'Made In the USA' all the way.
Yep, John Walton (Sam's son) was a Vietnam vet, Green Beret and SOG. "Made in the USA" was a big selling point.
I can also remember Woolworth's.....when I got out of the Army in 1987 my grandfather (a WWII USMC vet) bought me an M1 Garand from there. They were $300, had several cardboard barrels of them to choose from.
Do you remember when WalMart first started business? It was 'Made In the USA' all the way.
Yes, there were signs all over the store that proudly said 'Made in the USA'.
Yes, there were signs all over the store that proudly said 'Made in the USA'.
And it was usually STILL cheaper than K mart and better quality. We have killed so much of our own infrastructure it's not funny. Go try and find a 100% cotton polo shirt made in the US.
I remember NAFTA quite well..After it passed, the big 3 auto makers, and their parts suppliers, could'nt move plants down there fast enough..If I recall correctly, NAFTA cost the U.S. something like 700,000 -750,000 jobs that as far as I know, never came back..So, somebody tell me, exactly how did we (the U.S.) make out on this deal? And while Clinton signed it, and again I'm going from memory here, but, if I remember correctly, the bill itself went through congress with little in the way of "no"" votes..
It was gonna fix the problem of illegal immigration by sending jobs down there remember? That worked out didn't it?
And it was usually STILL cheaper than K mart and better quality. We have killed so much of our own infrastructure it's not funny. Go try and find a 100% cotton polo shirt made in the US.
Here is an article that I read several years ago that gives a good explanation of the issue at hand. Kind of a long read but interesting nonetheless.
https://www.fastcompany.com/47593/wal-mart-you-dont-know
Here is an article that I read several years ago that gives a good explanation of the issue at hand. Kind of a long read but interesting nonetheless.
https://www.fastcompany.com/47593/wal-mart-you-dont-know
Yep, too many people don't see this. Especially these things:
Wal-Mart has also lulled shoppers into ignoring the difference between the price of something and the cost. Its unending focus on price underscores something that Americans are only starting to realize about globalization: Ever-cheaper prices have consequences. Says Steve Dobbins, president of thread maker Carolina Mills: “We want clean air, clear water, good living conditions, the best health care in the world–yet we aren’t willing to pay for anything manufactured under those restrictions.”
It’s Wal-Mart in the role of Adam Smith’s invisible hand. And the Milwaukee employees of Master Lock who shopped at Wal-Mart to save money helped that hand shove their own jobs right to Nogales. Not consciously, not directly, but inevitably. “Do we as consumers appreciate what we’re doing?” Larrimore asks. “I don’t think so. But even if we do, I think we say, Here’s a Master Lock for $9, here’s another lock for $6–let the other guy pay $9.”
Yep, too many people don't see this. Especially these things:
Wal-Mart has also lulled shoppers into ignoring the difference between the price of something and the cost. Its unending focus on price underscores something that Americans are only starting to realize about globalization: Ever-cheaper prices have consequences. Says Steve Dobbins, president of thread maker Carolina Mills: “We want clean air, clear water, good living conditions, the best health care in the world–yet we aren’t willing to pay for anything manufactured under those restrictions.”
It’s Wal-Mart in the role of Adam Smith’s invisible hand. And the Milwaukee employees of Master Lock who shopped at Wal-Mart to save money helped that hand shove their own jobs right to Nogales. Not consciously, not directly, but inevitably. “Do we as consumers appreciate what we’re doing?” Larrimore asks. “I don’t think so. But even if we do, I think we say, Here’s a Master Lock for $9, here’s another lock for $6–let the other guy pay $9.”
Honestly I find myself buying antique household items, not because I collect antiques, but because they will last longer than anything bought from Wal Mart, Amazon or whatever. When my wife wanted a sewing machine I found a complete (and that is the hard part) Singer that was made in the 1980s. Weighed almost 30 lbs and wasn't $29.99 but it was worth it.
Where technology has just advanced too much, I'll gladly pay the price of a SureFire flashlight versus some plastomatic 5 million lumons for $9.99 crap. Walmart prices aren't really a savings when everything you buy is disposable and craps out after a couple months.
Been trying to find a decent Westminster mantle clock. Back in the 80s this would have been a sorta high end item you might pay as much as $75 for. figure triple that for inflation, I'd cheerfully pay $300 for a decent one. But all you can find are z grade stuff that doesn't actually have real bells or chimes and they sound like shit, run like shit because they are shit.
Maybe if I get lucky I'll find a 1950s vintage example with no issues for $400 to $500, problem is nobody throws things like that away or sells them cheap to an antique store because they want to get rid of them.
It is an issue that needs careful balancing. As noted already, it is stupid to require US manufacturers to abide by huge stacks of regulations, then allow space labor items to be imported cheaply. On the other hand it can’t be too protective. I recall in the 70s and 80s Americans were clamoring for quality family cars with decent gas mileage but Detroit was putting out crap while Japan responded.
So US manufacturers should not have so much protection that they feel they can produce crap and we have no choice. But it should be a level playing field regarding regulation burden.
The China crap needs to stop. Just shut down Harbor Freight and Walmart!!
Averageman
02-21-19, 06:00
Honestly I find myself buying antique household items, not because I collect antiques, but because they will last longer than anything bought from Wal Mart, Amazon or whatever. When my wife wanted a sewing machine I found a complete (and that is the hard part) Singer that was made in the 1980s. Weighed almost 30 lbs and wasn't $29.99 but it was worth it.
Where technology has just advanced too much, I'll gladly pay the price of a SureFire flashlight versus some plastomatic 5 million lumons for $9.99 crap. Walmart prices aren't really a savings when everything you buy is disposable and craps out after a couple months.
Been trying to find a decent Westminster mantle clock. Back in the 80s this would have been a sorta high end item you might pay as much as $75 for. figure triple that for inflation, I'd cheerfully pay $300 for a decent one. But all you can find are z grade stuff that doesn't actually have real bells or chimes and they sound like shit, run like shit because they are shit.
Maybe if I get lucky I'll find a 1950s vintage example with no issues for $400 to $500, problem is nobody throws things like that away or sells them cheap to an antique store because they want to get rid of them.
Ironically I had this same discussion with a friend that repairs and sells used appliances.
His take was a thirty year old clothes washer that still works is essentially the best thing you can buy. Simple switches, simple electronics and no real way to go wrong. All of this is easily replaceable with a bit of knowldge and perhaps a soldering iron.
Buy the newest and the bestest, you'll be seeing him in six moths to a year.
Doc Safari
02-21-19, 08:47
Do you remember when WalMart first started business? It was 'Made In the USA' all the way.
Yep. When I was in college. People wanted to go to work for them as manager-trainees just on that alone.
It was gonna fix the problem of illegal immigration by sending jobs down there remember? That worked out didn't it?
Ahh yes, you're right..I'd forgotten about that part.. Yeah, it worked out great....I do remember Ross Perot at the time, telling anybody who'd listen what would happen if NAFTA passed..And, he was right..That giant sucking sound of jobs leaving. I don't think he would've made a good president, though..He was too much of a control freak, Genreally speaking, sucessfull business men who go into politics don't do well, because unlike the private sector, where if sombody tries to stab you in the back, you fire them, you can't fire elected officals, and that for example, is a lesson that Trump's still learning..
Do you remember when WalMart first started business? It was 'Made In the USA' all the way.
I remember that as well, they used to advertise on TV that they had more "made in the USA" goods than anyone else, it was great.. I guess the siren song of cheap chinese goods was too much..
Ironically I had this same discussion with a friend that repairs and sells used appliances.
His take was a thirty year old clothes washer that still works is essentially the best thing you can buy. Simple switches, simple electronics and no real way to go wrong. All of this is easily replaceable with a bit of knowldge and perhaps a soldering iron.
Buy the newest and the bestest, you'll be seeing him in six moths to a year.
Another plus for the 30yr old washer is, they're not "water savers" and will actually wash clothes with about 5gal of water, unlike new washers today which all try to wash 20-30lbs of clothes, sheets, etc, with 2gal of water, or less. IMO, the older machine will give you cleaner clothes..
Another plus for the 30yr old washer is, they're not "water savers" and will actually wash clothes with about 5gal of water, unlike new washers today which all try to wash 20-30lbs of clothes, sheets, etc, with 2gal of water, or less. IMO, the older machine will give you cleaner clothes..
I agree! Our new LG, save the word washer won't get the skid marks out of white underwear. When we first got it I accused my wife of folding my dirty UW and putting them back in the drawer!!
LowSpeed_HighDrag
02-22-19, 15:58
I agree! Our new LG, save the word washer won't get the skid marks out of white underwear. When we first got it I accused my wife of folding my dirty UW and putting them back in the drawer!!
That was the most terrifying post I have ever read.
Doc Safari
02-22-19, 16:00
I agree! Our new LG, save the word washer won't get the skid marks out of white underwear. When we first got it I accused my wife of folding my dirty UW and putting them back in the drawer!!
That's really TMI.
I mean really, really, TMI.
:blink::fie::haha::sarcastic::laugh::lol:
Ahh yes, you're right..I'd forgotten about that part.. Yeah, it worked out great....I do remember Ross Perot at the time, telling anybody who'd listen what would happen if NAFTA passed..And, he was right..That giant sucking sound of jobs leaving. I don't think he would've made a good president, though..He was too much of a control freak, Genreally speaking, sucessfull business men who go into politics don't do well, because unlike the private sector, where if sombody tries to stab you in the back, you fire them, you can't fire elected officals, and that for example, is a lesson that Trump's still learning..
He didn't want to be POTUS. He just wanted to screw GHWB over because of the airport kerfuffle in Texas. Mission accomplished.
Ironically I had this same discussion with a friend that repairs and sells used appliances.
His take was a thirty year old clothes washer that still works is essentially the best thing you can buy. Simple switches, simple electronics and no real way to go wrong. All of this is easily replaceable with a bit of knowldge and perhaps a soldering iron.
Buy the newest and the bestest, you'll be seeing him in six moths to a year.Agree, I see this over and over and over again. My buddys uber washer craps out and his uber hot yet uber dim wife DEMANDS a new uber washer, or else! Then pays top dollar at the fancy local family run appliance store, with a service plan, thinking hes doing it right just by not buying the same brand of uber washer at the big box stores for several hundred less.
Usually within a year there has been an issue and while the technician is a swell guy you see around town, the service plan usually turns out not to cover whatever the issue is, or only labor and not parts... but what the hell, at least you dont have to call a warrantee center in India.
By year 3 its time for a new one and the next one need to been even uberer and costlier than the last... or else.
I rock the decades old appliances, mostly because there isnt a female about to make me miserable about such trivial nonsense but I often wonder on the seldom occasions I buy a new belt, switch, relay, etc all still pretty much all from overseas ultimately.... how much longer will I still be able to get these dinosaur parts for?
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