View Full Version : DANIEL DEFENSE 30MM OPTICS MOUNT (DOUBLE RING)
I see these floating around but don't see any reviews / experience on them.
Attractive to me because of the (1) light weight @ 5.5 oz, (2) non-QD, and (3) price point $150.
Anyone see / use / play with these?
https://danieldefense.com/components-parts/daniel-defenser-30mm-optics-mount-double-ring.html
TexasAggie2005
01-15-19, 11:04
https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?211069-My-Experiment-with-a-Simple-Lightweight-Optical-Solution&highlight=
Canonshooter
01-21-19, 18:30
Attractive to me because of the (1) light weight @ 5.5 oz, (2) non-QD, and (3) price point $150.
To which I will add well-made, well-finished and without any protruding fastening hardware, very snag-free. No regrets on the purchase.
Yeah, I was unimpressed for serious use. Didn't like how the two screws pinch / bend the bottom to clamp onto the rail. Probably works fine for range use but for snag free bombproof I'll stick with AADMOUNTs and Geissele for easier on / off.
Canonshooter
01-25-19, 18:39
Yeah, I was unimpressed for serious use. Didn't like how the two screws pinch / bend the bottom to clamp onto the rail. Probably works fine for range use but for snag free bombproof I'll stick with AADMOUNTs and Geissele for easier on / off.
The same attachment system DD uses for all of their rail accessories (including their highly regarded fixed irons). I am unaware of any widespread reports of failure or complaints with that attachment system.
IMO, the DD mounts strikes a good balance of weight and cost, and certainly seems robust enough to not break on impact before the scope itself is damaged. If we were discussing Aero mounts I'd agree with your assessment.
Does anyone know the height to center of optic in the DD mount? It looks a bit higher than a 1.5", but DD doesn't have the height spec listed on their site. I would love a 1.75" height mount, but from my research they do not exist, only 1.5 or 1.93.
The same attachment system DD uses for all of their rail accessories (including their highly regarded fixed irons). I am unaware of any widespread reports of failure or complaints with that attachment system.
IMO, the DD mounts strikes a good balance of weight and cost, and certainly seems robust enough to not break on impact before the scope itself is damaged. If we were discussing Aero mounts I'd agree with your assessment.
Yeah, I have no quantitative data to say it's bad, other than you don't see people using DD Optic mounts, Aimpoint Mounts, or fixed irons much any more.
Compared to other systems, it just didn't strike me as robust for only 2 oz less than a Geissele mount.
Does anyone know the height to center of optic in the DD mount? It looks a bit higher than a 1.5", but DD doesn't have the height spec listed on their site. I would love a 1.75" height mount, but from my research they do not exist, only 1.5 or 1.93.
Part of the problem with DD is they post little useful information on the mount and incomplete photos.
But the box says it's 1.5" Height. I didn't measure it, but that is what it says.
Does anyone know the height to center of optic in the DD mount? It looks a bit higher than a 1.5", but DD doesn't have the height spec listed on their site. I would love a 1.75" height mount, but from my research they do not exist, only 1.5 or 1.93.
Badger is making a 1.70", should be able to buy it in March, I believe.
Canonshooter
01-26-19, 06:50
Yeah, I have no quantitative data to say it's bad, other than you don't see people using DD Optic mounts, Aimpoint Mounts, or fixed irons much any more.
Compared to other systems, it just didn't strike me as robust for only 2 oz less than a Geissele mount.
IMO, the Geissele is the standard by which all others should be measured: truly a well-engineered, beautifully-made mount - as one should expect for the price tag.
True on the lack of info on the DD mount on their website. Though I have not measured it, the height is stated as 1.5 inches on the box, which seems correct to me.
In terms of strength, no doubt something like the Geissele (or Aadmount) would take more abuse before bending or breaking, but the scope would most likely be completely destroyed in that process long before the mount. On the other hand, the lightweight Aero is more like a fuse, perhaps bending or breaking first while saving an optic. Regardless of scope or mount damage, the optical sighting system would most likely be out of commission in either case.
For the 6-ounce scope I'm currently using, the DD seems a good balance of weight, cost and strength. If I was running a 38-ounce Zero Compromise optic (http://www.zcompoptic.com/zc527.html) I would undoubtedly opt for a more robust mount.
To which I will add well-made, well-finished and without any protruding fastening hardware, very snag-free. No regrets on the purchase.I totally understand that each person is different for what they want in a mount, but what exactly is snagging to it?
I totally understand that each person is different for what they want in a mount, but what exactly is snagging to it?
Many of the options out there like Geissele / ADM / Larue have knobs / QDs on the left side that are annoying for people using SCARs with a charging handle on that side.
Usually not a big deal on AR15/10s, but I reverse all my ADM mounts to put the lever on the right for use on a SCAR - even with a extended / angle charging handle you can catch your hand on a mounts protrusions.
On to the DD mount, if it had even one fixed recoil lug, I would have been more happy with it and likely used it. But if the photos showed what it is (only 2 screws as lugs), I likely would have never purchased it.
Nice, I'll check that out
brushy bill
03-02-20, 19:29
Will it clear a FSB and can you use a non-offset BUIS? Cannot determine from posts or pics I'm finding. Thanks.
titsonritz
03-04-20, 16:23
Though I have not measured it, the height is stated as 1.5 inches on the box, which seems correct to me.
I've not measured mine either but 1.5" looks correct when comparing it my 1.93" Geissele and Scalarworks mounts.
titsonritz
03-04-20, 16:24
Will it clear a FSB and can you use a non-offset BUIS? Cannot determine from posts or pics I'm finding. Thanks.
With an FSB it is roughly 1/3 lower co-witness.
brushy bill
03-05-20, 18:47
With an FSB it is roughly 1/3 lower co-witness.
Thanks!
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