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recon
11-05-08, 21:50
2010 will be a big year! Congress will be up for relections. I think 34 seats in the Senate will be up. Also 36 states will elect new governors. Could be interesting then! Also get more people to join the NRA!

ddemis
11-05-08, 23:30
Ahmen Brother!

Gunrider
11-05-08, 23:34
They're always talking about 50 to 80 million gun owners -- how come on a little over three million are in the NRA?
If we voted the way blacks and homosexuals did, as a unified block, we would sway EVERY election.

Just stop voting for Ron Paul!

1859sharps
11-05-08, 23:42
2010 is the election people should be focused more on, and preparing for.

Two words for you.... census and redistricting.

ddemis
11-05-08, 23:44
The NRA has about 4 million members the last time I checked. If every member could recruit just one single person the NRA would be the most powerful gun rights org. in the world. Lets all get to work and show the media elite we will never go away. Call the NRA and get pamplets to hand out to everyone you know and lets make the next elections work for us. Like Winston Churchill said; never give up the fight, never!

BackBlast
11-06-08, 10:20
I prefer GOA, but joining any gun lobby is better than no gun lobby.

Charlie Golf
11-06-08, 14:42
OP has the right idea.

What's done is done. Don't panic. Don't lose focus.

And don't forget to vote in Mid-Term elections.

ricko1
11-06-08, 15:44
start now and get involved!

Cruncher Block
11-06-08, 21:05
I agree with a strategy of focusing on 2010. It's a political cliche that the party in the White House tends to lose seats in mid-term election. That effect could be amplified by a large number of gun rights advocates who see an opportunity. Of course, I'm hoping there will be a large number of Second Amendment supporters running for office as well.

Because mid-terms don't get quite the "Super Bowl" media coverage of Presidential elections, they provide an opportunity for those who are serious about political involvement rather than those who vote just because everybody's talking about it. 1994 caught a lot of people by surprise. As I recall, Clinton was actually reasonably popular at the time but the AWB motivated a lot of people to get to the polls and say, "No more."

There are some very important differences between now and the early 90s. Perhaps the most important factor is right in front of you. In the early 90s, there just wasn't a widespread, rapid means of getting the word out like we have with the World Wide Web. Talk radio, magazines, and mailers were about the best that anyone could do at a time when most of the information was controlled by an anti-gun media.

Moreover, I don't have any hard proof, but I think gun rights advocates are more aggressive and watchful now than we were 15 years ago. Look at what's happened since 1994: A majority of states have shall-issue concealed carry. The Heller decision is significant (though it's pathetic we need a 5-4 Supreme Court decision to tell us what the Constitution clearly says). We still have a LONG way to go but the current anti-Constitution Congress is a setback, not the end of the fight.

rly45acp
11-06-08, 21:22
After doing a bit of research on the demographics of this elections, I'm beginning to wonder if folks like us are the minority. 6 in 10 of post graduate, 18-24 and even Catholic voters (considering Obama's stand on abortion, this one really throws me!) going for Obama, I have to wonder if only those in the military and men like me over 50 are the only conservatives left in this country. It appears most folks living in urban and suburban areas went for Obama, while mostly white males in very small town and rural areas went Republican. Women, Blacks (95%), Asians, Hispanics, etc., all went for Obama big time. Just slightly over half of white males went for McCain.

The economy was the deciding factor, but still, these numbers are a bit disturbing. Having said that, the American Revolution was won by only 33% of the population, with another 33% fighting for the British and 33% sitting it out. But then, they weren't voting, they were fighting. We're trying to change things without such drastic measures, and I'm not sure we have the numbers now or in the future. Some pundits fear this could be the end of conservatism, especially if Obama can get an even larger numbers of the population dependent on social programs, virtually ensuring a non-reversible socialist (and Democratic Party controlled) government. Only time will tell. I hope these folks are wrong, but my background is in sociology and these numbers are very troubling.

recon
11-06-08, 21:31
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Senate_election,_2010

Honu
11-06-08, 22:03
rly45acp
I am with ya but I am 45 :)


its a changing world !!!!! and sadly I think the conservatives are on the way out

but also maybe like many of us they grow up and realize values

but then again when kids parents are now the party friend rather than the parent makes me loose hope :(

Cruncher Block
11-06-08, 22:08
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Senate_election,_2010

Interesting.

Seems like Dodd (Connecticut) would be vulnerable but I don't know if anyone will remember his role in the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac collapse two years from now.

From a gun rights perspective, it would be great to see Schumer and Boxer go but I don't know if that's realistic (Cal and NY). Wikipedia suggests Schwarzenegger might challenge Boxer but I don't know that he's a real solid Second Amendment guy himself.

I wonder if Reid (Nevada) is an opportunity. Seems like, given the low approval ratings for Congress, the Senate Majority Leader could be help accountable. Of course, there's no guarantee that "Republican" = "pro-Constitution" these days.

I'd personally like to see Feingold go, given his involvement in McCain/Feingold.

Really, though, a lot will depend on the events of the next two years: economy, terrorist threats, etc. I'd love to see personal freedom and the Constitution become Issue 1 with the American voter every year but that doesn't seem to be where the country's collective head is at.

CarlosDJackal
11-06-08, 23:25
Unfortunately, I have met quite a few members of the NRA, GOA, and other pro-gun groups who proudly voted for Obama because they felt that he had the best plan for saving the economy. Of course, when you ask them what that plan is, none of them could definitively say what it was. :rolleyes:

JLM
11-07-08, 00:22
Unfortunately, I have met quite a few members of the NRA, GOA, and other pro-gun groups who proudly voted for Obama because they felt that he had the best plan for saving the economy. Of course, when you ask them what that plan is, none of them could definitively say what it was. :rolleyes:

Dude, are you serious? WOW.

2010 is where we can start taking it back. Get to work gents!

Submariner
11-07-08, 02:33
... Of course, there's no guarantee that "Republican" = "pro-Constitution" these days.

I'd personally like to see Feingold go, given his involvement in McCain/Feingold.

You forgot McCain.:D

How about, "I'd personally like to see McCain go, given his involvement in McCain/Feingold"?

JLM
11-07-08, 04:30
You forgot McCain.:D

How about, "I'd personally like to see McCain go, given his involvement in McCain/Feingold"?

No doubt.

About all I can say this year is I voted AGAINST Obama :p