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Doc Safari
02-08-19, 15:55
...but luckily you noticed something horribly wrong just in the nick of time.
Mine was a near mint Polytech Legend milled pre-ban AK47 at a gun show. I all but had my money out to hand to the man when I picked it up to look at it and---could not open the breach with every ounce of strength I had.
The guy just stood there and stared at me as I tugged and tugged at the charging handle.
"It's stuck." I said as I handed it to him.
He practically yanked it out of my hand, saying, "That CAN'T be! I just shot it a few days ago."
He proceeded to try to pry the bolt handle back, even resorting to trying to kick it open with his boot like a recent anecdote from the History Channel series "Tales of the Gun" had related.
It wouldn't budge.
Of course I told him I couldn't buy it in that state, and he frantically tried to reassure me he'd get it open. He knew that filthy lucre was getting ready to walk away.
I probably spent another hour at that gun show.
On my way out the door, I passed his table again. He was hitting the charging handle with a large ratchet, and had the bolt carrier open maybe an inch or so (if that).
"It's coming," he said, looking up at me while he continued to pound away on it.
"I think I'll pass," I said, as I continued out the door.
Those Galils that aren’t out yet.
Stoli, 80s pulp novels, and boredom are a sad mixture.
Trying real hard NOT to buy that weird three barreled "coach gun" that showed up at SHOT.
Trying real hard NOT to buy that weird three barreled "coach gun" that showed up at SHOT.
Don’t.
I doubt seriously you will be fighting the undead or surviving the nuclear aftermath.
Well I’m not sure if the adjective “worst” can be applied here but I was about to buy a 6920 in 2011 off Gunbroker and had to cancel. The seller said he was pretty sure it was made with the small trigger pins. Pretty much insisted they were...but I got skeptical. I asked him for the serial number and he sent me a picture. So I called Colt and they informed me that it did indeed have the larger pins. I told him I had to cancel the order and he took it pretty well.
Almost bought an original M1842 Springfield. Asked the guy to take the barrel bands off to see if there was rust under it. Turns out the stock was cracked so bad the bands were holding it together.
ramairthree
02-08-19, 17:22
Yeah, I am a sucker for wanting to SBS one of those,
And I want a shock wave version of a lever action 12 ga
Don’t.
I doubt seriously you will be fighting the undead or surviving the nuclear aftermath.
yeah, you are not wrong.
The one I looked at was blued with wood, so more super fudd than zombie ninja.
ramairthree
02-08-19, 17:25
I have a PSL that will do that on n a casino after shooting the old school surplus ammo. You miss any of the gun on the piston or in the gas tube, and it wants to harden and adhesive.
And a safety harbor mag fed bolt action 50 upper on a single shot AR with A1 stock. Some batches of AE will be a bear to open the action and extract.
...but luckily you noticed something horribly wrong just in the nick of time.
Mine was a near mint Polytech Legend milled pre-ban AK47 at a gun show. I all but had my money out to hand to the man when I picked it up to look at it and---could not open the breach with every ounce of strength I had.
The guy just stood there and stared at me as I tugged and tugged at the charging handle.
"It's stuck." I said as I handed it to him.
He practically yanked it out of my hand, saying, "That CAN'T be! I just shot it a few days ago."
He proceeded to try to pry the bolt handle back, even resorting to trying to kick it open with his boot like a recent anecdote from the History Channel series "Tales of the Gun" had related.
It wouldn't budge.
Of course I told him I couldn't buy it in that state, and he frantically tried to reassure me he'd get it open. He knew that filthy lucre was getting ready to walk away.
I probably spent another hour at that gun show.
On my way out the door, I passed his table again. He was hitting the charging handle with a large ratchet, and had the bolt carrier open maybe an inch or so (if that).
"It's coming," he said, looking up at me while he continued to pound away on it.
"I think I'll pass," I said, as I continued out the door.
...but luckily you noticed something horribly wrong just in the nick of time.
Mine was a near mint Polytech Legend milled pre-ban AK47 at a gun show. I all but had my money out to hand to the man when I picked it up to look at it and---could not open the breach with every ounce of strength I had.
The guy just stood there and stared at me as I tugged and tugged at the charging handle.
"It's stuck." I said as I handed it to him.
He practically yanked it out of my hand, saying, "That CAN'T be! I just shot it a few days ago."
He proceeded to try to pry the bolt handle back, even resorting to trying to kick it open with his boot like a recent anecdote from the History Channel series "Tales of the Gun" had related.
It wouldn't budge.
Of course I told him I couldn't buy it in that state, and he frantically tried to reassure me he'd get it open. He knew that filthy lucre was getting ready to walk away.
I probably spent another hour at that gun show.
On my way out the door, I passed his table again. He was hitting the charging handle with a large ratchet, and had the bolt carrier open maybe an inch or so (if that).
"It's coming," he said, looking up at me while he continued to pound away on it.
"I think I'll pass," I said, as I continued out the door.
I'm betting the bolt was off the rails. Why he didn't remove the top cover first is beyond me. He probably screwed the Poly up forever.
For me the best gun I didn't buy was the Vz61 when they first came out as a pistol version for $999 or something like that. I was in a money crunch and just couldn't make it happen. About 8 months later the exact same firearm was down to $599 and I was able to grab one of those plus a Vz 58 rifle for $399 if I remember correctly. Got the 61 SBR'd and I was one happy camper.
Don’t.
I doubt seriously you will be fighting the undead or surviving the nuclear aftermath.
Well, it could happen......... ;)
Well, it could happen......... ;)
...all right it could, but still that gun is going nowhere.
Actually, A gun I thought I regretted but realized that I didn’t was my SPAS 12. Bleeding edge of late 70s design. It really isn’t a bad gun and always retains value but a. It’s a shotgun and b. Does nothing a Mossberg can’t do.
There are replacement parts that give it new life. And as an autoloader with the correct power shells; it is more than reasonable to shoot.
Plus it looks menacing and them velociraptors yo...gotta stay strapped.
I still wish they had an 80s themed 3 gun where you could only use guns of the era. Like if it wasn’t on Miami Vice, it’s a no go. Should be easier with the retro craze. IIRC I think even the very first Super 90s were shown on Miami Vice. I know the Glock was.
...all right it could, but still that gun is going nowhere.
Actually, A gun I thought I regretted but realized that I didn’t was my SPAS 12. Bleeding edge of late 70s design. It really isn’t a bad gun and always retains value but a. It’s a shotgun and b. Does nothing a Mossberg can’t do.
There are replacement parts that give it new life. And as an autoloader with the correct power shells; it is more than reasonable to shoot.
Plus it looks menacing and them velociraptors yo...gotta stay strapped.
I still wish they had an 80s themed 3 gun where you could only use guns of the era. Like if it wasn’t on Miami Vice, it’s a no go. Should be easier with the retro craze. IIRC I think even the very first Super 90s were shown on Miami Vice. I know the Glock was.
Bren 10 or go home. :)
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Bren 10 or go home. :)
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I still have my Bren 10.
What chu talkin' 'bout Willis?
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You know its not the same but I want a Witness 10mm as it is the closest thing to a Bren Ten you can get.
Unless Brownells wishes to crank out BRN TEN handguns. They make CAR15s and AR-10s and AR180s so why not?
Vltor has all kinds of tooling, receivers and parts; they even bought the name. I don't know why they chose to not produce the gun.
...all right it could, but still that gun is going nowhere.
Actually, A gun I thought I regretted but realized that I didn’t was my SPAS 12. Bleeding edge of late 70s design. It really isn’t a bad gun and always retains value but a. It’s a shotgun and b. Does nothing a Mossberg can’t do.
There are replacement parts that give it new life. And as an autoloader with the correct power shells; it is more than reasonable to shoot.
Plus it looks menacing and them velociraptors yo...gotta stay strapped.
I still wish they had an 80s themed 3 gun where you could only use guns of the era. Like if it wasn’t on Miami Vice, it’s a no go. Should be easier with the retro craze. IIRC I think even the very first Super 90s were shown on Miami Vice. I know the Glock was.
I loved my Franchi SPAS 12 (top folder with umbrella handle), UNTIL they came out with the Benelli M1S90. Sold the SPAS, grabbed the Benelli and never looked back.
To this day I hear dealers filling gun buyers with a sense of wonder when they talk of "pump / auto combo" and how if the semi auto feature ever fails you just engage the pump action like on some fantasy Rambo movie. And all I can think is WTF would I even want a semi auto that might fail and needs a pump backup?
Of course the truth is dual feature to handle low powered rounds like bean bags and other LE loads. And that is also why Benelli makes the M3, but gun show people eat up that nonsense all day long. Like the SPAS 12 is the AK of shotguns, of course from a modern perspective it might now be accurate.
Loved the look of the SPAS, would prefer to have a USAS 12, but even 30 years later the Benelli reigns supreme. I have 870s because they are 870s, but they don't see much use.
Super 90s will always have a special place for me. At one point I took a 14" M1 over any SMG. This was before Benelli M4s were so readily available (still want one at some point, the M4).
Straight stock, bungee sling, surefire and that campaigner saw a lot of use.
Still I think SPAS 12s are neat. I want a mossy retrograde trench gun.
I have had enough time on 870s that while I respect them...I am sick of them. Still....I want an 11-87 or a 20" 1100.
Desert Tech MDR 7.62, narrowly escaped dumping too much on that rifle.
Grand58742
02-09-19, 08:30
Bushmaster M17S.
Not that it's a bad rifle (most folks seemed to like them) but I was just getting into the scary rifle scene at the time and almost pulled the trigger on it instead of an AR.
Years ago now, I almost put a Sig 556 SWAT on layaway. Ended up deciding against it.
Honestly I stopped paying attention to the 556 series not long after so aside from Sig's QC issues, I dunno if they were ever really a bad gun, but I did get the impression they were at least underwhelming.
Back before I owned any ARs I also once almost ordered a Bushmaster M4gery. I had had a Vector Arms underfolding AK on order for months from them but had gotten sick of waiting and was going to cancel the order and get the Bushmaster instead, however at like the last minute Vector suddenly shipped the underfolder, which I still have.
There's actually a much longer list of guns I almost bought, and later regretted not buying them. Such as $265 German Sig P225s.
I almost bought an AK last year.
Never been more ashamed than to admit that.
Outlander Systems
02-09-19, 13:24
I want a Remington TAC-13.
I want a Remington TAC-13.
Why are you like this
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I want a Remington TAC-13.
I'll be honest. I kind of want the semi-auto.
Why are you like this
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I sometimes believe what the anti-vaxxers say about autism.... :p
I almost went down the AK path. I’m glad I didn’t. The more I shoot friends AK’s the more I love my AR’s.
Before i knew better I almost bought a Rock island 1911 from my cousin who swore by them. I shot it and it FtF’d and FTe’d a few times and said, no thanks. Cheap 1911’s are just good looking Expensive paperweights.
That mini 14 almost got me at the gun show. Walked by it and handled it a few times. Glad it didn’t feel right to me.
There are more. I’m glad that I take my time and don’t just impulse buy. I’d have a lot of junk.
LowSpeed_HighDrag
02-09-19, 15:14
I spent all of my 17th year waiting eagerly to buy a DPMS Panther when I turned 18. Glad that didn't happen.
Outlander Systems
02-09-19, 16:24
Do you know how many Aarons a Mike Miller could burn down with a TAC-13!?
I sometimes believe what the anti-vaxxers say about autism.... :p
Do you know how many Aarons a Mike Miller could burn down with a TAC-13!?
I googled that thinking like you meant some youtube guy shooting A/C units and saw something cruel and....
wished I hadn't....
One minute a woman has a husband. The next she doesn't.
It wasn't your fault but I just can't handle certain things anymore like I used to.
This is why events unnerve me. I've seen it all, the same old story
Before I was really into guns both on a professional level and for recreational reasons, I was almost successful in avoiding a lot of pitfalls in firearms. That being said Ive shared my bad experiences in owning a Mini30, FNP-45, off brand ARs and a SKS that was tinkered with by a previous owner waaaayy to many times. There are some others also that bite me in the ass so to speak. The ones I luckily avoided were a Charter Arms in 44 that a guy at my range was selling for a steal which I passed on.My reasoning was Ive "never heard of Charter Arms, S&W yes, Colt yes, Charter a big fat no!" It came apart in the new owners hands luckily, not injuring him. A NIB Tec-9 for rap videos yo...PASS. A Hess HK91 copy(?) that looked like a monument to aluminum cans. While waiting and saving for DSA FAL, an Enterprise FAL came up with low round count. A buddy bought it and literally had to rebuild the thing from the bottom up to get it to work correctly. Olympic Arms PCC in 9mm with these super funky mags, not the Sten ones. A lever action (forget which make) that was mint on the right side but a bucket o rust on the left side...real cheap, PASS as you could push in on receiver side with a finger. A multitude of the WSM/ WSSM chambered bolt guns from 90's that have been offered up for cheap.
I almost bought a first generation “collector edition” MSAR faux AUG clone when they were very first released. Thank goodness I dodged that one.
I almost bought a first generation “collector edition” MSAR faux AUG clone when they were very first released. Thank goodness I dodged that one.
I remember those! I too almost fell for it. It came out at a time when Factory New Steyr AUGs were vaporware and empty promises.
So glad I held out.
You can add Tavors to that as well. I remember that one Rainbow Six game for the original Xbox and it was like "the gun" and all those pictures of IDF girls posing stoically with wind blowing through their hair were floating around. Then Resident Evil Apocalypse came out and the Umbrella guys had them. It seemed like the ultimate rifle.
Then I held one and it just felt icksome. It felt like physical nope.
Still....I sometimes sort of want a Galil ACE 556....sort of. Kinda. yeah
Went to a gun show today. Very nearly bought a Beretta M9a1 compact, and a 92 compact. Good prices on them. But in the process, I walked past two M240 grip/trigger assembly’s in original USGI packaging. As in probably not procured legally. Also several stripped uppers in the same type of packaging. And then, there was a guy selling “solvent traps”, which were threaded tubes with baffles that had no central hole yet, or which accepted fuel filters.
After someone offered me a RPK 74 mag for $120, I was done.
When saving for my first ar during college, I had a dream about DPMS and thought it was a sign.
My best friend talked me out of it (and Im the gun guy- not him).
We remain best friends to this day.
I almost bought a first generation “collector edition” MSAR faux AUG clone when they were very first released. Thank goodness I dodged that one.
Talked to Pete Athens at Shot Show that year and was ready to roll. Then he called me personally to let me know about many of the production changes that happened at MSAR and that he was no longer involved in the project. I was able to get some of the first "production" rifles (after the Beta test "collector edition") and even though they were rifles built when Athens still was affiliated with MSAR they were quite a disappointment in terms of accuracy compared to my A1s.
I was fortunately able to sell them before the reputation of MSAR rifles really took a hit and the values dropped out the bottom and later snagged an AUG A3.
an Enterprise FAL came up with low round count.
God, I grabbed one of those when they were like $599 from Classic Arms and it was a horrid POS. Did everything I could to make it run but the fatal flaw was the receiver itself with those crappy feed lips. Tried in vain to sell it for $599 without success. Finally chopped the receiver and sold the Steyr "parts kit" for $750.
ramairthree
02-11-19, 11:34
I have usually not avoided bad guns.
I was all excited about 20 years ago to get an HK clone, with a rail on the top instead of having to mess with the claw mount.
It was the FA aluminum receiver one. The charging hand would bind up. It seemed to be loosening in other places. I don’t think I went over 1000 rounds with it. I trashed the receiver and used it as a parts kit on a PTR receiver.
I also saw a couple of Henry survival pistols for sale. Basically a pistol version of the AR7. I am a sucker for pistol rifle combos. For the love of god now though, I can’t come up with a single reason why I had to have some cartoonish, oversized Han Solo looking pistol with typical AR 7 reliability.
I don’t learn though.
Oh look, an enforcer m1 Carbine type pistol, I should get that.
Etc.
Nightvisionary
02-11-19, 12:29
In 1997 I was saving every dollar I could scrounge up for a pre-order deposit on a Todd Bailey Special Weapons SW-3 HK-91 clone. After about 3 months of saving I discovered the relatively dirt cheap (At the time) hobby of FAL kit building and never looked back.
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