View Full Version : HK PSP/P7 Sickness!!
FromMyColdDeadHand
02-09-19, 18:38
https://youtu.be/zq7_w6FWenY
I guess we could link every Forgotten Weapons video in their own threads, but the HK P7/PSP has such a cult following, at least in my house, I thought I'd post it here.
Still love it for the lack of controls. Wish it weren't so ass heavy when trying to carry it.
Strapping my PSP on as I type to head out the door!! (soon as I watch this vid)
FromMyColdDeadHand
02-09-19, 19:28
Holster?
The Dumb Gun Collector
02-09-19, 19:37
Man I wish they would have made an Aluminum or scandium frame.
I carry mine in a Mitch Rosen ESP FD shoulder rig..it's the easiest way I've found to alleviate the PSPs phat a$$!! Lol. I also have a Milt Sparks VM2 IWB that does a fantastic job..
FromMyColdDeadHand
02-09-19, 21:00
Man I wish they would have made an Aluminum or scandium frame.
I now have carbon fiber for my 3D printer. Have always fantasized about a poly frame. I do think I'm going to try a make a heat shield
I carry mine in a Mitch Rosen ESP FD shoulder rig..it's the easiest way I've found to alleviate the PSPs phat a$$!! Lol. I also have a Milt Sparks VM2 IWB that does a fantastic job..
Shoulder rig? Boxer drop. ;)
My question is if someone made a polymer framed new P7 clone, would people buy it. Lets say at a price point of $600.
Owned 14 at one point, now just back to my original M8.
Anyone want to buy an original Alessi SH for a P7M13 to help me fund a new PCC for USPSA?.
Honestly, it would probably be a totally niche item if it were make by "somebody."
If H&K made it, they couldn't keep them in stock, guaranteed.
If HK made a P7 with thumb mag button is have to have one. Maybe one of the higher capacity variants of they did not get thick.
I would love to find another in decent shape, but with prices north of 1500 and magazines (if you can find them) at 100+, not very practical. My M8 is pretty much a safe queen. I have heard rumor that a limited run may be forthcoming from HK, but I'll believe it when I see it
FromMyColdDeadHand
02-10-19, 09:28
My question is if someone made a polymer framed new P7 clone, would people buy it. Lets say at a price point of $600.
The problem is that it would probably be double the price.
I had a nice collection of P7M8's and P7M13's all with DelFatti leather but just recently sold them all. They really are amazing firearms but I lost interest in shooting them and I'm not a collector. I do wish I would have held onto at least one P7M8.
https://news.guns.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/p7-ad-july-1988-640.jpg
There are only 3 things I NEED from ze Germans, a 433.. an optics ready slide for the VP9, & a reissue of the P7...any of those come to fruition on the American market, I will make a credit card weep!!
There are only 3 things I NEED from ze Germans, a 433.. an optics ready slide for the VP9, & a reissue of the P7...any of those come to fruition on the American market, I will make a credit card weep!!
Amen to that brother!!! Add to that ANY of the 9X series of rifles and it will rain US green backs in Germany with a rainbow starting from Columbus, Georgia...!
FromMyColdDeadHand
02-10-19, 22:43
The PSP inherently has such a small slide in terms of height and width and overall length for barrel length, an integral suppressor would be wicked cool. It is going to be a niche and expensive gun anyway.
How much do these bad boys go for in the market? Interesting pistol don’t know much about them.
How much do these bad boys go for in the market? Interesting pistol don’t know much about them.
If one must ask the price... Just make sure you're sitting down. Last one I saw in my LGS had a threaded barrel and the asking price was $2000.00 plus/minus. I suppose if you can afford a custom 1911 you can afford a P7M8.
I bought my P7M8 in 1996 for $600.00.
I was recently offered $2000.00 for it.
I have the box, Manual and carbon scraper.
I think I’m going to hold on to it for a while. I haven’t shot it in several years but it is still a really neat pistol.
I finally found a great one at a LGS last year P7PSP. Every time I bring it to the range, someone asks "What's That?" As soon as I get "HK" out they say I've always wanted one of those.
Walther uses a similar action in the CCP for about $300, but of course it's not the same.
hotrodder636
02-11-19, 17:34
I am looking for a mint P7M13 to go with my P7M8....if anyone has any leads PM me.
yugo308guy
02-11-19, 17:59
I am looking for a mint P7M13 to go with my P7M8....if anyone has any leads PM me.
There is one listed over on TOS for $3000. Not mine, don’t know the seller, just happened to see it listed. It’s been up there for a loonngg time.
yugo308guy
02-11-19, 18:04
I’ve had so many of these, I have lost count. They truly are my favorite handgun of all time, but hard to justify keeping them. I’ve always been lucky to find them fairly cheap(not recently), and someone always wants to pay me a lot more than I paid for it. What’s a guy to do?
If HK were to make the exact same gun as the PSP, but in a polymer frame, it would certainly be my carry gun, but as it is, 9 shots in a very heavy gun, just doesn’t make sense to me anymore.
FromMyColdDeadHand
02-11-19, 20:04
I’ve had so many of these, I have lost count. .
They heat up so fast that you need more than one- maybe even a brace of them. I don't know how many a 'brace' is, but it sounds appropriate....
yugo308guy
02-11-19, 20:15
They heat up so fast that you need more than one- maybe even a brace of them. I don't know how many a 'brace' is, but it sounds appropriate....
Haha, yes they do. And, just for the record, a brace is 2.
The Dumb Gun Collector
02-11-19, 20:32
This P7 thread is causing me pain.
titsonritz
02-11-19, 20:38
I've always liked those squeeze cockers. I almost bought one a couple of times recently but that price tag bites deep.
yugo308guy
02-11-19, 20:45
This P7 thread is causing me pain.
Do it Greg.... You know you want to!
FromMyColdDeadHand
02-11-19, 20:56
This P7 thread is causing me pain.
My evil plan comes together...... mu-hah-hah.
What I like about them is that they peg the 'unusual' and 'useful', throw in some scarcity to amp the cool factor, plus it is an HK. There are a lot of odd guns out there. There are a lot of cool guns out there. Not many cool, odd and useful guns.
Frankly, it is about the only gun that Forgotten Weapons is going to profile that I have a shot at owning....
ETA: Frankly, they seem to be a fairly safe investment, as far as guns go.
The price of admission is steep for certain when it comes to the P7 series.
However, it really is a fantastic piece of machinery, it's almost like a clock that shoots. It's definitively not a burn 100 rounds through it in 30 min pistol, as mine is plenty warm after 3 mags..but they do have amazing triggers, very accurate, & mine have been staggeringly reliable. They do however require well thought out holsters..that short barrel, heavy grip combo makes holster selection extremely important.
I got lucky and found a P7 PSP a few years ago that had been refinished. I traded a Leupold CQT, that I got for free, and $100 for it. Fun little pistol. I had always wanted one because it was mentioned in a Dick Marcinko book I read as a kid. I just need a holster for it.
I had a PSP that I really liked, except for an annoying "tick" in the trigger pull. It was probably correctable but I never got around to it. During a gun poor period I sold it and always wish I hadn't.
If I were to run across one of these at a reasonable market price, I'd be hard pressed to keep myself from making it happen. :p
https://s3.amazonaws.com/mgm-content/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2014/09/21/3520590_01_hk_p7m8_hard_chrome_nill_grips_640.jpg
but they do have amazing triggers, very accurate, & mine have been staggeringly reliable.
My favorite P7 story
And a word on 9mm ammo in a P7. The US Park Police complained that their P7s were jamming so HK bought 10,000 rounds of the ammo the Park Police was using, standard 115 gr., Remington 9mm ball, took a new P7 and proceeded to shoot the daylights out of it. It get very boring shooting 10,000 rounds all at once.
dwhitehorne
02-13-19, 02:51
My favorite P7 story
And a word on 9mm ammo in a P7. The US Park Police complained that their P7s were jamming so HK bought 10,000 rounds of the ammo the Park Police was using, standard 115 gr., Remington 9mm ball, took a new P7 and proceeded to shoot the daylights out of it. It get very boring shooting 10,000 rounds all at once.
We were not shooting Remington 115 gr. It was Ultamax reloads in Remington brass that someone long before me ordered to save money. I still have many cases because you can’t get through a 50 round box without a kaboom. It was used as regular training ammo. I blew one of the grip panels off my issues pistol shooting the Ultramax.
I will say the M13 mags were picky. The follower rides in a grove in the mag body. When we dropped our mags on the ground during emergency reloads they were useless if you got a grain of sand in it.
As for the 10,000 round test, I would like to see how long that would take because of the heat and the carbon buildup on the piston. In a controlled environment the P7 was amazing. The average patrol officer that never lubes his pistol and shows up to quals with lint and donut dust caked around the firing pin collar would not get to 10,000.
I will say the P7 will continue to extract and eject with the extractor missing. Someone I was qualifying with launched their extractor during the qual course and didn’t realize it until cleaning their guns afterwards.
I sent all but a few of our M8’s and M13’s out for destruction a few years ago. David
I sent all but a few of our M8’s and M13’s out for destruction a few years ago. David
You make me sad...
bnanaphone
02-15-19, 09:32
I managed to pick one of the LEO trade in PSP guns years ago and had it refinished by Robar in Electroless Nickle. I don't shoot it very often but it is one of the few pistols I will never sell due to the "unusual and useful" attributes. It is just a unique piece I enjoy having around. A nice trigger and good accuracy don't hurt either.
https://i.imgur.com/NIPrGOw.jpg
dreamcrusher8307
02-16-19, 16:17
I sent all but a few of our M8’s and M13’s out for destruction a few years ago. David
Yet another piece of Bill Clinton legacy that just won't die.
I'm still Down with the P7 Sickness........
I've tried countless times to kick the habit. An M8 or M13 is still my EDC.
Greg.....find your way back to the darkside :cool:
The Dumb Gun Collector
02-21-19, 22:01
I've found myself looking at gun broker ads damn it!
The Dumb Gun Collector
04-02-19, 20:40
I cannot confirm or deny I drunk clicked "buy it now" a P7M8 on gunbroker last night.
I own an M8.....
http://hkguns.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-2/p1519596642-5.jpg
...and a PSP
http://hkguns.zenfolio.com/img/s/v-2/p331254634-5.jpg
Love them both.
My ancient PSP will go to Robar this year for a electroless nickel refinish.
Maybe a set of those gorgeous grips also.
hotrodder636
04-03-19, 13:44
Let’s see pictures when it gets in!
I cannot confirm or deny I drunk clicked "buy it now" a P7M8 on gunbroker last night.
I cannot confirm or deny I drunk clicked "buy it now" a P7M8 on gunbroker last night.
Didn't you already have a P-7M8 or own one at some point?
Falshooter
04-04-19, 04:01
i own a P8 and a P7m13 right now, they are like national treasure to me. the best handguns ever made, i am gonna pass them down to my son.
The Dumb Gun Collector
04-04-19, 11:36
I have owned zillions of P7s. I have sold them all to finance various schemes.
Falshooter
04-04-19, 12:23
I have owned zillions of P7s. I have sold them all to finance various schemes.
I bet you regret selling them all.
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I don't shoot my old PSP that much anymore, but it'd probably be one of the last pistols I parted with.
Wish I'd grabbed a P7 LEO trade in or 3 back in the day when they could be had for $500-ish, but oh well no biggie.
I cannot confirm or deny I drunk clicked "buy it now" a P7M8 on gunbroker last night.
Good to have you back aboard the pain train!
FromMyColdDeadHand
04-05-19, 21:15
I got some NRA email with an article about holsters and mag holders for P&7s. Anyone get that, do they know us?
Get the gun yet Greg?
ETA: just looked on gun broker, are PSP’s really over $1500?
The Dumb Gun Collector
04-05-19, 23:14
It's insane. I just bought one because I felt wrong not having one.
FromMyColdDeadHand
04-06-19, 09:13
The gun definately, in the world of odd and collectible guns, is a value leader- plus it is actually usable. You can show it to a gun new-bie who would see it as cool and alien, and you could shoot it in an IDPA match. Plus, it’s an H&K.
Can you really call yourself a ‘gun guy’ with out one? ��
Falshooter
04-06-19, 10:06
It's insane. I just bought one because I felt wrong not having one.
Whats the Current market Price ?
gunnar4321
04-06-19, 19:22
I'very got a PSP, P7 M13 and a P7 M10 (.40 S&W). Love 'em all, the M10 is stupid heavy but I'll never part with it. Was out today with another favorite, the P9S. Also great!
The Dumb Gun Collector
04-06-19, 22:18
Whats the Current market Price ?
Waaaay too much. 2k and up.
Falshooter
04-07-19, 00:07
Whats the Current market Price ?
Waaaay too much. 2k and up.
i have been thinking of selling one of mine, maybe i'll put it on GB.
FromMyColdDeadHand
06-25-19, 09:11
I had a dream last night that I had two P7s, but I woke up only owning one in reality. Of course I had two in my dream, because one is none and two is one. Makes total sense, even when I woke up. My second one was a beautiful chromed one....
The sickness indeed....
The Dumb Gun Collector
06-25-19, 11:43
It’s a sign from God. You need a Gruber p7
call_me_ski
07-01-19, 23:29
I have been shooting the M13 more often these days. Couple things that really stand out in my mind is that these pistols shoot incredibly flat and fast. Second is that the recoil seems to settle a bit once the piston is a little fouled. Any one else notice something similar?
I hate to bring a thread back to life, but...
Anyone have a kydex IWB holster for P7, if yes who makes it?
I've owned a PSP silver slide for years. I don't know why everyone takes about needing the right holster. I just tuck it in my waste band or stick it in my pocket. This pistol was made for Mexican carry. If it wasn't for the blued finish on the frame and the 8+1 capacity I would still be carrying it today.
I hate to bring a thread back to life, but...
Anyone have a kydex IWB holster for P7, if yes who makes it?
I do, (a PSP) & to my knowledge Bladetech still makes one.
I have one, & it works great.
Last I looked P7s were still on the USPSA Production approved list.
Tempting I kept my original 1996 M8 of the 16 I eventually owned and have 6 mags for it.
FromMyColdDeadHand
02-03-20, 23:00
I hate to bring a thread back to life, but...
Anyone have a kydex IWB holster for P7, if yes who makes it?
Does someone need some help with their P7 affliction/addiction?
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I think they are both Raven holsters. I carried my P7 just for a little bit about 10 years ago, so I am actually foggy on which one I liked better. The P7 is so butt heavy. The one with 'wings' I think I got and I remember wearing a bit because it fit OK, but loops and such would get discombobulated from time to time. Not sure if I ever used the other one, or if I scavenged the belt attachment for another holster.
Both fit pretty snug on my P7. The more standard one has a bit of cant to it so that the butt is more over the rest of the gun. The other is more straight up and down.
I think I have a Kydex/leather Hybrid holster too. Maybe. Or was that for a STI 2011 I carried after this. I went to extremes there for awhile.
If you want to try them, I can drop them in the mail.
Comp-Tac at least used to make them......I still have a few bouncing around in my holster drawer I use if I have a class in a monsoon!
titsonritz
03-06-21, 02:21
Thread bump for this cool classic pistol.
Here is a scaled down version that I was unaware of until today <or long purged those brain cells>, the HK P7K3...it is a .22lr, .32acp, .380acp convertable blowback. This guy does a nice informative video on the little gun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwFN6ITNfkY
He also does a video on the P7 series that is he calling "The definitive resource for these weapons" it is over 3 hours long. I guess the is an up side the covid lockdowns. Here is a link to it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilVWOg_ju8A
I'd carry my P7-M13 if they were still made today and could be repaired/replaced at a reasonable price.
I've been swimming in the 1911 pool for almost a year now but every damn time this thread comes back to life, it makes me wanna backslide like a crack addict.
The Dumb Gun Collector
03-07-21, 10:09
Teufelshund Tactical is the greatest thing for HK guys ever.
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