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ABNAK
02-10-19, 11:28
Think about it: the M-1, M-2, and M-3 carbines were based on the old WWII design. The XM177(E1 or E2) was actually next in the carbine lineage. While it was not a widely issued weapon it nonetheless had a nomenclature and was a carbine after all. I propose that what we all commonly know as the M4 nowadays should actually be called the M5. The XM177 should have been the original M4.
MorphCross
02-10-19, 11:34
XM177e2 was specifically listed as being a submachine gun by the Military per every technical document; not a carbine.
Firefly
02-10-19, 11:52
No. Plus M5 sounds lame.

Besides they were going to call the next gun the M8.
El Cid
02-10-19, 12:00
No. Plus M5 sounds lame

Ahem...

https://icdn2.digitaltrends.com/image/2018-bmw-m5-review-21-640x640.jpg
Firefly
02-10-19, 12:09
Like I said....
ABNAK
02-10-19, 13:36
XM177e2 was specifically listed as being a submachine gun by the Military per every technical document; not a carbine.

Yep, now that you mention that it was indeed considered a "submachine gun". I recall reading that in The Black Rifle.

Oh well, so much for a Sunday mental exercise.