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Someone recommend me a good FAK pouch, two MOLLE panels/One M4 Magazine Pouch in width, in OD.
Please and thank you.
HSGI Bleeder/Blowout Pouch
http://www.highspeedgear.com/hsgi/bleeder-blowout-pouch-12BP00.html
Someone recommend me a good FAK pouch, two MOLLE panels/One M4 Magazine Pouch in width, in OD.
Please and thank you.
I'm a big fan of the DARK Angel Medical Kit.
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I'm a big fan of the DARK Angel Medical Kit, though I wish they'd team up with Blue Force Gear for an even better pouch.
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Outlander Systems
07-22-15, 09:50
HSGI Bleeder/Blowout Pouch
http://www.highspeedgear.com/hsgi/bleeder-blowout-pouch-12BP00.html
You, Sir, are a scholar and a gentleman.
That is exactly what I was looking for.
Tornado_Racing
07-22-15, 16:48
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Someone recommend me a good FAK pouch, two MOLLE panels/One M4 Magazine Pouch in width, in OD.
Please and thank you.
https://www.m4carbine.net/forumdisplay.php?101-Emergency-First-Aid
There is a whole forum full of good stuff here:
I've read through 25 to 30 pages of this thread, so I haven't read the whole thing. Maybe this question has been asked and answered, so just kick me if it has. Has anyone used one of the Safariland ELS systems as a first line belt? Is that system just a gamer rig and has no place in the real world?
Thanks for your thoughts.
My agency issues the QLS adaptors with our gear. it has a very strong locking action that you're not going to break off without ripping straps off and cracking holsters. We use them for switching between drop leg holsters, vest carry and duty belt. We were issued three different platforms for it, but only one holster (safariland ALS/SLS with the thumb guard).
The only downside is it makes the holster stick out about 1/2" more than if it was mounted directly to the plate. Been using it for three years now with no problems. It takes a little practice to get it uncoupled (if you have the model with the extra locking tabs) as it takes a squeeze while pulling the tabs into the holster to clear the locks, then sliding the holster up out of the adaptor. Once you have it down, its pretty quick. And having changed it hundreds of times, I havent noticed any softening of the locking tabs, or plastic fatigue that would indicate the locking arms may break after a while.
If you have multiple platforms you want to mount a holster on and dont want to spend the money for multiple holsters, the QLS works. Or the other problem is having one war belt and wanting to use multiple guns. Then QLS system makes it easy to change holsters for your gun of the day without having to rethread molle straps or belts.
When I started taking defensive pistol courses several years ago, I ran the gamut of padded "war belts", finally ending up with a very comfortable Brokos belt loaded with all the gee-whiz cool attachments including IFAK, multitool, flashlight holder, etc. I finally realized that, as a civilian, it was silly to outfit myself thus and now I just go to pistol courses with a BladeTech holster, a dual magazine pouch, and a dump bag on a Speed Belt, or more likely just the holster and mags on the Uncle Mike's Instructor belt that holds my pants up. Those of you that might actually need a "war belt" might have a different perspective, but I've gotten to the point where I felt like a silly wannabe showing up with all that crap hanging of me.
I've got a Vickers rifle course coming up in September. I'll probably dig out the Brokos belt for that after pulling all the unnecessary extra pouches and bags.
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I looked back through January, and I've only seen one HSGI Slim Grip belt. Unfortunately, that one was using the G-Code RTI system. I'm wondering if anyone has attached a Raven Phantom holster with Mini-Pups to the slim grip belt? With only two rows of molle, will that combination work? I called HSGI today and they didn't know.
I looked back through January, and I've only seen one HSGI Slim Grip belt. Unfortunately, that one was using the G-Code RTI system. I'm wondering if anyone has attached a Raven Phantom holster with Mini-Pups to the slim grip belt? With only two rows of molle, will that combination work? I called HSGI today and they didn't know.
I found this thread: https://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?111623-War-Belt-Holster-Question
Post 5 and 6 mention the mini-pups. Maybe those members might be able to help w/your specific question.
Allah_Snackbah
09-10-15, 15:55
My very own first m4c.net post, i can't believe its taken me this long to make an account here. I was going to make an introductory post but i know nobody cares so here's some gear.
Details:
HSGI suregrip with inner riggers belt
Tyr Tactical suspenders
2x HSGI pistol Taco mag pouches
Tactical tailor multitool pouch
2x itw fast mag rifle pouches
Tactical tailor fight light dump pouch
Tear off IFAK
Tactical tailor rifle/pistol combo mag pouch
Esee 3 Mil knife
G-code mule RTI drop
OTG rti holster
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20150907_200550_zpscerux8li.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/riceslayer302/media/IMG_20150907_200550_zpscerux8li.jpg.html)
edmorseiii
09-10-15, 16:18
i know nobody cares
I care Bruh, I care.
Allah_Snackbah
09-10-15, 16:23
I care Bruh, I care.
are you stalking me? or just really really researching that g-code rig?
i guess i can't accuse you of stalking me with that join date. lulz.
edmorseiii
09-10-15, 16:29
are you stalking me? or just really really researching that g-code rig?
i guess i can't accuse you of stalking me with that join date. lulz.
LOL, this is like the only thread I have not removed email notification from. I saw your handle in the email. M4C is where I go when NES is boring me.
Is anybody using a kydex (or just not leather) handcuff case that I could throw on my more "tactical" belt that I wear for classes, training, active shooter, etc?
Is anybody using a kydex (or just not leather) handcuff case that I could throw on my more "tactical" belt that I wear for classes, training, active shooter, etc?
I have a couple Kydex cuff cases that a buddy of mine gave me when he was starting his holster business. If you are interested, shoot me a PM and I'll hook you up if you want them. I think I have a pouch for the ASP chain cuffs and a pouch for the ASP hinged cuffs. I'm sure that I can dig them out of the basement pretty quick.
How do you like the suspenders? I need some and they look like the might fit my system.
My very own first m4c.net post, i can't believe its taken me this long to make an account here. I was going to make an introductory post but i know nobody cares so here's some gear.
Details:
HSGI suregrip with inner riggers belt
Tyr Tactical suspenders
2x HSGI pistol Taco mag pouches
Tactical tailor multitool pouch
2x itw fast mag rifle pouches
Tactical tailor fight light dump pouch
Tear off IFAK
Tactical tailor rifle/pistol combo mag pouch
Esee 3 Mil knife
G-code mule RTI drop
OTG rti holster
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20150907_200550_zpscerux8li.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/riceslayer302/media/IMG_20150907_200550_zpscerux8li.jpg.html)
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss173/tpdavis89/IMG_5713.jpg (http://s573.photobucket.com/user/tpdavis89/media/IMG_5713.jpg.html)
Velocity Systems Operator Utility Belt
HSGI Rigger Belt
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss173/tpdavis89/IMG_5713.jpg (http://s573.photobucket.com/user/tpdavis89/media/IMG_5713.jpg.html)
Velocity Systems Operator Utility Belt
HSGI Rigger Belt
Nice, simple set up. Looks great. What Holster is that?
Nice, simple set up. Looks great. What Holster is that?
T,
Thanks. The holster is a Safariland 7TS with the Mid-Ride UBL.
tmwtrfwler
02-08-16, 19:50
T,
Thanks. The holster is a Safariland 7TS with the Mid-Ride UBL.
Just got and installed buy mid ride ubl for my belt. it places the holster at a can't that places the gun barrel pointing back toward my thigh. does yours do that too and if so how do I fix that?
Allah_Snackbah
02-11-16, 05:49
How do you like the suspenders? I need some and they look like the might fit my system.
I like them alot. I put itw g-hooks on them, cut the plastic clips off the loop of the belt, now I can quickly take the suspenders off if I want to. I still have and really like this rig, lately I've been using this ronin setup though.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20151204_195622063_HDR_zps5cjlhitg.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/riceslayer302/media/IMG_20151204_195622063_HDR_zps5cjlhitg.jpg.html)
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20151204_171130_zpsxpocknyp.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/riceslayer302/media/IMG_20151204_171130_zpsxpocknyp.jpg.html)
Sorry about the crumminess of the photos. New set up for me that is getting put through the paces this afternoon and all day tomorrow.37858
Rickenbacker53
02-26-16, 17:13
I like them alot. I put itw g-hooks on them, cut the plastic clips off the loop of the belt, now I can quickly take the suspenders off if I want to. I still have and really like this rig, lately I've been using this ronin setup though.
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20151204_195622063_HDR_zps5cjlhitg.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/riceslayer302/media/IMG_20151204_195622063_HDR_zps5cjlhitg.jpg.html)
http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l133/riceslayer302/IMG_20151204_171130_zpsxpocknyp.jpg (http://s95.photobucket.com/user/riceslayer302/media/IMG_20151204_171130_zpsxpocknyp.jpg.html) HAVE You Tried G-code RTI mounts with your belt ?
DireStraits
03-03-16, 10:15
http://i573.photobucket.com/albums/ss173/tpdavis89/IMG_5713.jpg (http://s573.photobucket.com/user/tpdavis89/media/IMG_5713.jpg.html)
Velocity Systems Operator Utility Belt
HSGI Rigger Belt
This is exactly what I'm looking for, something simple and doesn't make me look like a mall ninja when I go to class.
As an aside; is that a BCM rifle?
.....VERY nice rifle.
Allah_Snackbah
03-31-16, 17:22
HAVE You Tried G-code RTI mounts with your belt ?
that is a g-code mule on it in that pic
gschoellles
03-31-16, 19:59
This is exactly what I'm looking for, something simple and doesn't make me look like a mall ninja when I go to class.
As an aside; is that a BCM rifle?
.....VERY nice rifle.
Everyone going to class with battle gear and no prior military experience looks like a mall ninja
Everyone going to class with battle gear and no prior military experience looks like a mall ninja
Perhaps, but being up front about it is better than trying to fake it. Battle gear is just practically useful gear for hauling mags, guns, and other gear. It still helps civilian shooters.
It is not called support gear for nothing..
Everyone going to class with battle gear and no prior military experience looks like a mall ninja
Most do, yes. I think that's because they're usually going for a "look" rather than practically addressing what they actually need on the line at a pistol or rifle instruction course. I see guys at these courses with all kinds of really cool (and useless) doo-dads attached to their belt...IFAK (complete with blood-type patch), Leatherman, Admin pouch, big honkin' knife. That's fine if the shooter is training like he fights, but we're more often talking dentists and accountants.
Swapped out my belt and holster.
Esstac double pistol kywi
Esstac double shorty rifle kywi
Tyr Tactical small dump pouch
Tyr Tactical multi-tool pouch
Tyr Tactical flashlight pouch
ICE Tactical belt med pouch
First Spear slim line battle belt
OTG holster w/ G-Code dropped rti mount
DireStraits
04-03-16, 06:46
Everyone going to class with battle gear and no prior military experience looks like a mall ninja
I have prior military experience; 11B & 11BC2 to be exact, but if I defaulted to it I'd be wearing TA-50.
The gear, to include rifles and optics really evolved after I ETS'd and unfortunately I didn't keep up with the times, but that is changing.
superr.stu
04-03-16, 08:55
Everyone going to class with battle gear and no prior military experience looks like a mall ninja
I'm comfortable with that. If I'm taking the time to wear my "battle" belt, or plate carrier there is probably a need. Like the weather sucks and I want to stay warm and dry, or armor as a class requirement.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1528/25947343500_b4b7bbe847_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FwSVeo)IMG_5332 (https://flic.kr/p/FwSVeo) by splittiebus 66 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96653819@N04/), on Flickr
volund micro gen2
HSGI micro grip panel
Persec systems holster
Esstac kywis
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160410/a446a6a6e2ecfdd3cc9846b6b3ae086f.jpg
Tyr Gunfighter belt
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Antonio5005
05-01-16, 12:38
So in an effort to get rid of some bulk from a war belt, I decided to go with an inner outer setup. I replaced my ATS war belt with this setup.
SOE 1.5 rigid belt
Bianchi inner belt (looking for something a little stiffer tho)
HSGI pistol taco X2
HSGI double decker
Maxpedition dump pouch
G-Code RTI belt mount
G-Code Safariland RTI adapter
Safariland ALS holster for G19
And my favorite pieces, which allowed me to attach all of that... Down Range Gear's Pals Belt Platforms. This has seriously been the best part of it. Gave me the ability to securely, and I mean SECURELY, attach molle pouches to the inner loop velcro of the belt.
I was a little worried the 1.5 would be too small but so far it's worked out fine. I used it yesterday for the first time, somewhere around 4-5 hours, and it never was uncomfortable. Even went for a little hike through the woods. The inner belt really helps stabilize everything and possibly stiffened up the belt a little more. I would however like to have an inner belt that isn't as flimsy is the bianchi, something a bit a tiffer that will work well with the SOE.
Check out the G hook belt from volund gear works.
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Split66, how do you like the HSGI belt pad?
Mall ninja checking in.
Gun class / Range / Bump-in-the-night (minus canteen) rig:
USMC war belt with, L-R:
KYWI double pistol mag pouch
Condor M4 double mag pouch repurposed into an IFAK pouch
Condor double pistol mag pouch
ITS skeletonized bottle holder
EGL dump pouch
KYWI shorty M4 mag pouch
Safariland 7377 holster on custom kydex molle mount
Countycomm Personal Carry Case
https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7102/26828042880_3741b71f75_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GSGJts)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/GSGJts) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7270/26828041520_57d728b5d0_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GSGJ51)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/GSGJ51) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7692/26828040430_63ac5f2667_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GSGHKd)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/GSGHKd) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7007/26496486804_9085026d7d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Gnpqpo)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/Gnpqpo) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7235/26496485664_cfbbfb4ab2_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Gnpq4J)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/Gnpq4J) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c8.staticflickr.com/8/7489/26498193863_885e61e621_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GnyaRr)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/GnyaRr) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7219/26496484594_56b46bea05_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GnppKh)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/GnppKh) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7408/26496483324_6f97b94c62_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Gnppno)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/Gnppno) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7488/26498191323_c0f4bf231e_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Gnya6D)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/Gnya6D) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7404/26937605442_c023b60be8_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/H3ogB9)KydexHolsterMount-1447 (https://flic.kr/p/H3ogB9) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7661/27031774325_71ab485953_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/HbGUJz)KydexHolsterMount-1451 (https://flic.kr/p/HbGUJz) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7260/26937594682_637617f9a8_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/H3odpC)KydexHolsterMount-1457 (https://flic.kr/p/H3odpC) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
pyrotechnic
05-24-16, 19:46
Split66, how do you like the HSGI belt pad?
I'm not split66 but I've been running a similar setup for the past week teaching classes.
Same belt with the HSGI belt pad
Safariland 7ts on a gcode rti
Esstac double pistol and double rifle pouches
I got the belt before the pad and it made a big difference in comfort when wearing for 6hrs at a time. The "sticky" material does a good job of keeping the belt from riding up.
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1528/25947343500_b4b7bbe847_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/FwSVeo)IMG_5332 (https://flic.kr/p/FwSVeo) by splittiebus 66 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/96653819@N04/), on Flickr
volund micro gen2
HSGI micro grip panel
Persec systems holster
Esstac kywis
I think this is what I'm after.
What are the advantages of a Volund vs. a padded style belt?
How's the quality, function of the G-Code? Have you used a Safariland? Differences and opinion would be appreciated.
https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13322198_2382519884911_1770498906236227350_n.jpg?oh=32cfc55e1c10c619e2d8d2deba61e4c2&oe=57C5A175
Love my G-code holsters. I have have the "Optimal Drop" RTI mount on my battle belt which sits the holster a little lower off the belt, perfect location for me. Pictured is the light bearing SOC rig with my TRP w/ X300u. I also have the RTI mount in my center counsel so its nice being able to quickly switch my various holsters/guns in between my car and my belt depending on the day.
Updated my belt a bit with a dedicated med pouch. Also threw the dump pouch on there to see how it all fit. Was comfortable around the house, even sitting on the couch.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v296/b0b0o7o7/IMG_20160625_143822_zpso1in4cvp_edit_1466891008325_zpsiwwnprwv.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/b0b0o7o7/media/IMG_20160625_143822_zpso1in4cvp_edit_1466891008325_zpsiwwnprwv.jpg.html)
Straight Shooter
07-09-16, 23:21
Mall ninja checking in.
Gun class / Range / Bump-in-the-night (minus canteen) rig:
USMC war belt with, L-R:
KYWI double pistol mag pouch
Condor M4 double mag pouch repurposed into an IFAK pouch
Condor double pistol mag pouch
ITS skeletonized bottle holder
EGL dump pouch
KYWI shorty M4 mag pouch
Safariland 7377 holster on custom kydex molle mount
Countycomm Personal Carry Case
https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7102/26828042880_3741b71f75_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GSGJts)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/GSGJts) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7270/26828041520_57d728b5d0_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GSGJ51)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/GSGJ51) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c7.staticflickr.com/8/7692/26828040430_63ac5f2667_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GSGHKd)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/GSGHKd) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7007/26496486804_9085026d7d_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Gnpqpo)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/Gnpqpo) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c1.staticflickr.com/8/7235/26496485664_cfbbfb4ab2_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Gnpq4J)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/Gnpq4J) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c8.staticflickr.com/8/7489/26498193863_885e61e621_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GnyaRr)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/GnyaRr) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7219/26496484594_56b46bea05_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/GnppKh)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/GnppKh) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c5.staticflickr.com/8/7408/26496483324_6f97b94c62_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Gnppno)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/Gnppno) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c4.staticflickr.com/8/7488/26498191323_c0f4bf231e_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Gnya6D)Battle Belt (https://flic.kr/p/Gnya6D) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7404/26937605442_c023b60be8_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/H3ogB9)KydexHolsterMount-1447 (https://flic.kr/p/H3ogB9) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c6.staticflickr.com/8/7661/27031774325_71ab485953_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/HbGUJz)KydexHolsterMount-1451 (https://flic.kr/p/HbGUJz) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7260/26937594682_637617f9a8_c.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/H3odpC)KydexHolsterMount-1457 (https://flic.kr/p/H3odpC) by Dan Passaro (https://www.flickr.com/photos/danpass/), on Flickr
Friend- what kind of canteen is that, and whats is the deal on the odd shape on the back?
Its an air bubble. The canteen is opaque/transparent.
Straight Shooter
07-10-16, 01:25
Its an air bubble. The canteen is opaque/transparent.
Wow...talk about an optical illusion..it looks like an indention or something. I feel like an idiot for asking now.
What brand canteen is that, is my last dumbass question.
Wow...talk about an optical illusion..it looks like an indention or something. I feel like an idiot for asking now.
What brand canteen is that, is my last dumbass question.
Yeah it took a second to realize it. As for brand, that I could not tell you sir.
Straight Shooter
07-10-16, 01:39
Yeah it took a second to realize it. As for brand, that I could not tell you sir.
Thanks for the speedy replies! I have never seen a clear canteen before.
I have never seen a canteen on a MOLLE belt before.
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Wow...talk about an optical illusion..it looks like an indention or something. I feel like an idiot for asking now.
What brand canteen is that, is my last dumbass question.
Looks like a nalgene brand canteen
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BrigandTwoFour
07-12-16, 08:54
Looks like a nalgene brand canteen
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Correct. I have 4 of them, and use 2 as part of my daily gear
daddyusmaximus
07-12-16, 19:41
I like them alot. I put itw g-hooks on them, cut the plastic clips off the loop of the belt, now I can quickly take the suspenders off if I want to. I still have and really like this rig, lately I've been using this ronin setup though.
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What holster and rig is this? I like how it sits lower than a normal holster, but not as low as the normal thigh rig.
bsoileau24
07-12-16, 19:56
What holster and rig is this? I like how it sits lower than a normal holster, but not as low as the normal thigh rig.
It looks like the g code mule.
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mikelowrey
07-22-16, 23:54
It looks like the g code mule.
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Correct. Also another one similar is the Safariland Drop Leg DFA.
Rickenbacker53
11-24-16, 12:33
https://i.imgur.com/8F4zNNy.jpg?2
Ronin Belt ,KT Drop plate ,G-Code and HSGI Works great and no added bulk compared with the wide padded belts: No slipping around on your waist either:
acnewman55
11-25-16, 00:55
Question:
If I buy an HSGI riggers belt with Velcro on the inside, does it make sense to match it with both the slim pad for throwing the belt on over what I'm already wearing, as well as the Velcro inner belt, that I can thread through my belt loops to make it more secure for times when I have that option?
Or are the inner Velcro belt and the Velcro slim grip pad used for completely different applications?
My application - just a civilian thinking of taking a carbine course and want to spend some range time practicing/loading mags from belt-mounted pouches, in a configuration I would use at the course.
Setup:
2 x 30rd rifle mag pouches on the left side (The course requires three rifle mags, so I'm not planning to carry more than two, with one in the rifle.)
1 x 15rd pistol mag on the left side
Pistol holster on the right side.
No PC or chest rig. Just the belt and jeans pockets to carry my loadout.
Basically I have settled on the riggers belt and need to know which inner belt to attach it to for the carbine course application. What makes the most sense?
The Velcro belt that you thread through belt loops seems like it would be most secure and prevent the belt from riding up or rotating. The padded inner belt looks like it can be put on more quickly and buckled over whatever you're already wearing for a quick grab-n-go.
Thanks
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Question:
If I buy an HSGI riggers belt with Velcro on the inside, does it make sense to match it with both the slim pad for throwing the belt on over what I'm already wearing, as well as the Velcro inner belt, that I can thread through my belt loops to make it more secure for times when I have that option?
Or are the inner Velcro belt and the Velcro slim grip pad used for completely different applications?
My application - just a civilian thinking of taking a carbine course and want to spend some range time practicing/loading mags from belt-mounted pouches, in a configuration I would use at the course.
Setup:
2 x 30rd rifle mag pouches on the left side (The course requires three rifle mags, so I'm not planning to carry more than two, with one in the rifle.)
1 x 15rd pistol mag on the left side
Pistol holster on the right side.
No PC or chest rig. Just the belt and jeans pockets to carry my loadout.
Basically I have settled on the riggers belt and need to know which inner belt to attach it to for the carbine course application. What makes the most sense?
The Velcro belt that you thread through belt loops seems like it would be most secure and prevent the belt from riding up or rotating. The padded inner belt looks like it can be put on more quickly and buckled over whatever you're already wearing for a quick grab-n-go.
Thanks
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I ended up going with the riggers belt as well. I chose the HSGI micro grip inner belt. I haven't had any issues with it moving too much. The material on the inside of the micro grip is actually pretty grippy.
Rickenbacker53
11-28-16, 13:28
Question:
If I buy an HSGI riggers belt with Velcro on the inside, does it make sense to match it with both the slim pad for throwing the belt on over what I'm already wearing, as well as the Velcro inner belt, that I can thread through my belt loops to make it more secure for times when I have that option?
Or are the inner Velcro belt and the Velcro slim grip pad used for completely different applications?
My application - just a civilian thinking of taking a carbine course and want to spend some range time practicing/loading mags from belt-mounted pouches, in a configuration I would use at the course.
Setup:
2 x 30rd rifle mag pouches on the left side (The course requires three rifle mags, so I'm not planning to carry more than two, with one in the rifle.)
1 x 15rd pistol mag on the left side
Pistol holster on the right side.
No PC or chest rig. Just the belt and jeans pockets to carry my loadout.
Basically I have settled on the riggers belt and need to know which inner belt to attach it to for the carbine course application. What makes the most sense?
The Velcro belt that you thread through belt loops seems like it would be most secure and prevent the belt from riding up or rotating. The padded inner belt looks like it can be put on more quickly and buckled over whatever you're already wearing for a quick grab-n-go.
Thanks
Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkWhy get riggers belt if you are using it for class? What I posted in the picture above from Ronin http://www.ronintactics.com/store/p29/Shooters_Belt_.html Is nicer set up IMO for same Money: I say so having a riggers belt as well . IMO that D ring just adds weight and gets in the way: Or are you scaling walls as well? I wear the inner belt in Jeans and just put the regular shooters belt on when going to practice. I love that belt
I ended up going with the riggers belt as well. I chose the HSGI micro grip inner belt. I haven't had any issues with it moving too much. The material on the inside of the micro grip is actually pretty grippy.
How stable is the belt with just the grippy liner? I was thinking about doing the riggers belt and liner instead of relying on having a ridged inner belt fed through belt loops but I'm concerned it will be somewhat floppy with 2 rifle mags and 2 pistol mags on there.
My other option was the Volundgear 2 inch micro with the grippy liner but that almost seems to stiff to throw on without the inner belt. I don't want it to ride up like I'm wearing a hula hoop
So far it's been good on range trips, but I haven't had a chance to run it in any classes or done any super active things with it on, so I can't say for certain if it'll be super floppy or stable.
I wear Ronin belts every day in A-stan. I have two, one set up for low-pro/FOB wear and one for everything else. Great belts, although expensive.
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I wear Ronin belts every day in A-stan. I have two, one set up for low-pro/FOB wear and one for everything else. Great belts, although expensive.
Sorry about the cellphone pic:
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Do you notice any droop from having too much weight on one side?
I have an esstac belt, it's basically a cobra belt that Velcro's to the inner belt. I believe it's 1.5 or 1.75 inches thick but no MOLLE.
I'm trying to see if I can get away with mounting a double pistol kywi onto a double AR kywi without it dropping from the weight.
Do you notice any droop from having too much weight on one side?
I have an esstac belt, it's basically a cobra belt that Velcro's to the inner belt. I believe it's 1.5 or 1.75 inches thick but no MOLLE.
I'm trying to see if I can get away with mounting a double pistol kywi onto a double AR kywi without it dropping from the weight.
Not much more than normal. It's not exactly a balanced rig, but it doesn't sag as long as I have the inner belt tight.
I'm not a fan of stacking pouches on a belt. I'm not sure why you or anyone else wants stuff hanging off their belt any further than a standard mag pouch, but for what I do, it wouldn't work. I prefer to maintain a lower profile with my kit.
I wear the green belt 90% of the time; the IAP usually holds a smart phone, not an AR mag.
The two main benefits of the Ronin system are that you can't feel the things mounted on the belt (there's 100% Velcro contact) and you can don the belt super fast. I keep the inner belt threaded on my pants. If things go bump in the night, I could quickly throw pants and the belt on.
Not much more than normal. It's not exactly a balanced rig, but it doesn't sag as long as I have the inner belt tight.
I'm not a fan of stacking pouches on a belt. I'm not sure why you or anyone else wants stuff hanging off their belt any further than a standard mag pouch, but for what I do, it wouldn't work. I prefer to maintain a lower profile with my kit.
I wear the green belt 90% of the time; the IAP usually holds a smart phone, not an AR mag.
The two main benefits of the Ronin system are that you can't feel the things mounted on the belt (there's 100% Velcro contact) and you can don the belt super fast. I keep the inner belt threaded on my pants. If things go bump in the night, I could quickly throw pants and the belt on.
That's what I was looking for with my belt. Was going to go with Volund's version but I could a get a Crye MRB faster so that's what I'm trying now. It works well so far. Agreed on the pouches though. I had a double decker taco on my last belt and it just felt too bulky. Plus that is a lot of weight for any belt to support.
Used the MRB for a few weeks now and finally have it setup exactly the way I want. The inner belt is stiffer than I expected, and I assume would work well for concealed carry. I like that the outer belt is flexible so that it moves as I do, though I wouldn't be surprised if it's a little too flexible for supporting a pistol. Since I run mine on G-Code's MULE, it isn't an issue for me. I'm not a big drop leg fan, but it's the best way to clear my plate carrier when I'm running full kit. Overall, I'm very pleased with the setup. The only thing I don't understand with the belt is the two vertical straps at the 4:30 and 6:30 positions. I just don't understand the point.
Three LT tacos, Velocity Micro Diddie Pouch, SORD TQ pouch, BFG Micro TKN, Safariland holster on G-Code platforms, and a BFG Ten-Speed pistol pouch for a handheld light, multitool, or whatever.
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Nice rig. Do you have any feedback on the SORD TQ holder? Have you practiced using it for speed and efficiency? Asking because I was contemplating a North American Rescue CAT Tourniquet Holder which is comparably priced. TIA
Nice rig. Do you have any feedback on the SORD TQ holder? Have you practiced using it for speed and efficiency? Asking because I was contemplating a North American Rescue CAT Tourniquet Holder which is comparably priced. TIA
I don't have much to compare it against, but I am a big fan. Obviously the fact that it protects the TQ more than a strap version is a big plus, but it is still very fast. The only downside is that it doesn't fit the newest CAT very well. I believe it's the Gen 7. I didn't know there was a size difference but the newest one I have has a hard time fitting in the pouch.
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Used the MRB for a few weeks now and finally have it setup exactly the way I want. The inner belt is stiffer than I expected, and I assume would work well for concealed carry. I like that the outer belt is flexible so that it moves as I do, though I wouldn't be surprised if it's a little too flexible for supporting a pistol. Since I run mine on G-Code's MULE, it isn't an issue for me. I'm not a big drop leg fan, but it's the best way to clear my plate carrier when I'm running full kit. Overall, I'm very pleased with the setup. The only thing I don't understand with the belt is the two vertical straps at the 4:30 and 6:30 positions. I just don't understand the point.
Also a MRB fan. First belt I used like this was a BFG battle belt. Too bulky for my liking, I wanted something similar to a duty belt, that I could use keepers with. EMDOM's belt fit the bill for a while, but then this came out which I feel is the lowest profile setup you can buy. Kind of a PITA having the inner attached to the outer already, its not as fast as throwing on the EMDOM or a duty belt, but its more secure. Belt in the sleeve is from 215 Gear.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v669/nf9648/01/IMG_1615_zps10kqrzvv.jpg
Mr. Goodtimes
01-31-17, 10:09
First Spear AGB with low profile 6/12 AGB sleeve. 2x HSGI Rifle Tacos, 2x pistol Tacos, TT roll up dump pouch.
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I don't have much to compare it against, but I am a big fan. Obviously the fact that it protects the TQ more than a strap version is a big plus, but it is still very fast. The only downside is that it doesn't fit the newest CAT very well. I believe it's the Gen 7. I didn't know there was a size difference but the newest one I have has a hard time fitting in the pouch.
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Thanks for the reply - I think in the field a few bungees is efficient, but bouncing around in a car trunk or behind a door in a closet I think I'd rather have it in a pouch.
StevethePirate
02-09-17, 19:20
I'm thinking of switching my TYR Gunfighter belt for a Hill People Gear Recon Belt. It's higher profile, but also usable as a pack belt. A couple box top mag pouches, GP pouches (water, medical), a dump pouch, and go. I really like the look of Velocity Systems jungle kit, and as a civ these days, with kids, pretension beats fast access.
Instaurator
02-15-17, 11:23
Are those the ETS Glock mags?
I wear Ronin belts every day in A-stan. I have two, one set up for low-pro/FOB wear and one for everything else. Great belts, although expensive.
Sorry about the cellphone pic:
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What are the economical inner/outer belt setups? Stiffness is key for me.
thanks.
Edit to add: I think I answered my own question. The AWS Light Assaulter Belt starts at $60, and it appear to be stiff. It looks like quality and is made in the U.S. I saw a bunch of others on Ebay that weren't exactly what I was looking for or were made by unknown folks in who knows where.
Friend- what kind of canteen is that, and whats is the deal on the odd shape on the back?
Delayed response here lol ..........
Nalgene Oasis Bottle LINK (http://amzn.to/2oqxawr)
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The AWS Light Assaulter's Belt arrived and I've been messing with the placement of everything for about 15 minutes and have it set up just about as close to perfect as I can for now. FWIW, I ordered in on April 19th and received it today.
The inner belt includes a small kydex piece that slides between the MOLLE panels and the belt so you can quickly slide the panel where you want it, fine tune it a little, and remove the kydex to lock it in. I was initially worried that getting the pouches set up, but it was roughly a 5 minute task to get the two panels, IFAK, and holster in place. Once done, place the kydex insert back in the inner belt, and it provides more reinforcement to the front of the belt. Smart.
Here's a few pics to show the kydex insert and how it's stowed.
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As worn. I'm a 31-32" waist (depending on breakfast), about 190lbs and the medium more than fits. I imagine it will fit a 30-36 inch waist comfortably.
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I haven't tested how well the velcro holds when using the D-ring. I'll do casualty drags with a RAT strap and report back once I've done it enough to know it holds up.
Outlander Systems
05-02-17, 11:47
@GTF425
Noice. I imagine that kydex backer makes that thing stiffer'an a bull dick.
The AWS Light Assaulter Belt starts at $60, and it appear to be stiff. It looks like quality and is made in the U.S.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQRW0RM4V0k
ExplorinInTheWoods
05-02-17, 17:28
The AWS is nice, from what I've heard is that AWS actually makes the ronnin belt. Like how seekins makes all the spikes rails and smos makes the noveske billet
On the AWS webpage, for the LAB system it says that the under belt is 2", but does not specify the outer belt width. Is it 2" as well? It would stand to reason...
Yes, it's 2" as well.
Thank you GTF425, I assumed, but we all know what happens when one assumes...
The irony is that the LAB appears to be the tactical hotness all of the sudden, and I chuckle because I was looking at them a couple years ago due to their price. (I was ahead of the curve for once!) I never ended up getting one, but I did do some redneck engineering to make a couple MOLLE panels for my gunbelt. I'm about due for a trouser belt and would like a cobra buckle duty belt so I may finally end up getting one.
Glad that the system has gotten such good reviews!
Thank you GTF425, I assumed, but we all know what happens when one assumes...
The irony is that the LAB appears to be the tactical hotness all of the sudden, and I chuckle because I was looking at them a couple years ago due to their price. (I was ahead of the curve for once!) I never ended up getting one, but I did do some redneck engineering to make a couple MOLLE panels for my gunbelt. I'm about due for a trouser belt and would like a cobra buckle duty belt so I may finally end up getting one.
Necessity + ingenuinity.
Nothing beats a homebrew solution!
I was shooting with a friend at 37 PSR many years ago who had, what I assume, was a prototype or early production version of the LAB. At the time, I remember thinking it was pretty slick, but I had a Velocity Systems belt that worked just fine, so I never felt the need to change it up.
This has always been something I've wanted, and truth be told, for the $88+shipping...it was worth trying out. If you pick one up, I hope you get some great use out of it.
bikemike555
06-10-17, 08:23
I have a Ronin Tactics Taskforce belt and an AWS LAB as well. It is pretty hard to deny that they are manufactured in the same facility. I like them both.
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Nightstalker865
06-10-17, 10:53
AWS makes outstanding products. They have been making gear for units a Bragg for quite a while.
Glad to hear you guys are happy with their belts.
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Are those the ETS Glock mags?
Yes. Sorry so late responding to this...
They are the 22rd. mags, loaded to 21. Great mags, drop free better than OEM mags. I've been leaving them loaded for months on end to see if there are any problems. 6+ months, no issues so far.
Everyone going to class with battle gear and no prior military experience looks like a mall ninja
What do you suggest they use for carrying their rifle mags, pistol mags, sidearm, etc. then?
I think this may be the ultimate belt setup. Ronin Senshi outer belt paired with the Crye MRB inner belt, G-Code Adjustable Belt Slide w/ Mule ISS and Safariland 6354DO/6378USN, Blue Force Gear Micro Trauma Kit Now, SORD Tourniquet Pouch, Velocity Systems Helium Whisper Micro Diddie Dump Pouch, and a bunch of the light weight and flexible HSGI Taco LTs. It was not cheap but I'm very pleased with it so far.
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I think this may be the ultimate belt setup. Ronin Senshi outer belt paired with the Crye MRB inner belt, G-Code Adjustable Belt Slide w/ Mule ISS and Safariland 6354DO/6378USN, Blue Force Gear Micro Trauma Kit Now, SORD Tourniquet Pouch, Velocity Systems Helium Whisper Micro Diddie Dump Pouch, and a bunch of the light weight and flexible HSGI Taco LTs. It was not cheap but I'm very pleased with it so far.
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Nice rig. Good stuff there. I run a Safariland 6354DO as well on a UBL low-ride. Scorpion softshells for pistol mags and Estaac KYWI's for M4 mags. Specter Gear dump pouch, C-A-T in a Snake Eater Tactical quick-access holder, Victorinox Swisstool Spirit in a Maxpedition pouch. Recently switched from Mechanix gloves to the Outdoor Research Ironsight gloves.
I haven't moved over to a slim belt and I don't think I will. My HSGI Suregrip has been rock solid for me and I can get it on and off in a second without having to worry about two belts. Never had a problem with shifting either.
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Bitterroot Einherjar
02-22-18, 11:01
Here's what I use for a belt-ESSTAC 1.75" shooter's belt, homemade Kydex holster, ESSTAC 2+1 GLOCK and AR mag carrier, and a BFG mag pouch to hold my TQ. I go back and forth between the base belt that came with this one and the First Spear base belt. First Spear is much easier to cinch down, however I lose some loop to attach the 8"
or so between the front edge of my holster and the Cobra buckle. This rig gets used a lot, and yet everything still looks pretty darned new! 50691
Here's what I use for a belt-ESSTAC 1.75" shooter's belt, homemade Kydex holster, ESSTAC 2+1 GLOCK and AR mag carrier, and a BFG mag pouch to hold my TQ. I go back and forth between the base belt that came with this one and the First Spear base belt. First Spear is much easier to cinch down, however I lose some loop to attach the 8"
or so between the front edge of my holster and the Cobra buckle. This rig gets used a lot, and yet everything still looks pretty darned new! 50691SOE.
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If your life depends on it...
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After reading much of this thread, and many others, I went with a Ronin Shuto belt. It is the same as their task force belt, minus the D ring. My days riding on the pods of little birds are long past, so no need for the D ring. For mag tacos, I got HSGI; 2x pistol, 2x rifle. I have Safariland holsters for all my pistols, so I equipped them with the QLS system and hung a mid-ride UBL belt adapter on the belt. I plan to buy a dark Angel med kit in the near future. This belt will be used at the range and in some classes at the Sig academy. I also picked up the 1.5" inner belt because some of my pants didn't accept the 2" one it comes with. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180608/58c32ca7df855489a75560bf09b48cac.jpg
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My next class is in early July, so, I will post how it performs after that.
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My next class is in early July, so, I will post how it performs after that.
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Nice, I’m sure it’ll work well for you. I’ve been very pleased with my Senshi.
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indianajonze
08-12-18, 18:50
any reason you went with 2x of the separate pistol / rifle tacos instead of the double decker ones?
any reason you went with 2x of the separate pistol / rifle tacos instead of the double decker ones?
More flexibility. I can reconfigure easily, 3 rifle & 1 pistol, ect...
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any reason you went with 2x of the separate pistol / rifle tacos instead of the double decker ones?
Wasn’t directed at me but I used to have double deckers then went to single. I just prefer the stuff closer to my body and as low pro as possible. Plus the only thing I really gave up was one rifle mag and three on a belt is kind of excessive anyway.
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indianajonze
08-12-18, 20:21
you both make sense. thanks!
Rickenbacker53
08-28-18, 10:34
IS Anyone using High Threat concealment 2 belt low Profile belt ? I sold My Ronin Belt because it was to big. Before I re-order I wondered if there was an option that doesn't use Molle. My Mag Holders are Esstac with the Belt Loops : I like them because they set higher then Using them with Molle . Closer as well.
LowSpeed_HighDrag
09-14-18, 01:05
I wear a "first line belt" at work. I'd love to be able to switch from leather to nylon, but it is what it is.
My work loadout:
https://i.imgur.com/e0XHrkk.jpg?1
Glock 21 w/X300
Safariland ALS Lvl 3
TQ
2 Cuffs
2 Mags
Taser X2
OC
Radio
Koga Baton
Esee Izula Knife
LowSpeed_HighDrag
09-14-18, 01:09
My "play" load out is quite a bit simpler:
https://i.imgur.com/N0qM2sD.jpg?1
Ronin Tactics Belt
G19 MOS w/RMR
T Rex Holster on Safariland Mid Ride w/QLS
TQ
Esstac Kywi's in Multicam Black (I have a lowride M4 Kywi enroute right now)
bikemike555
09-15-18, 07:46
I modified a few Safariland holsters to better match my belts. I wanted to be able to run a GLS instead of an ALS sometimes just because it's lower profile. I also wanted a matching holster for the S&W M&P 9 2.O compact I just bought for my belt, and I wanted to try a few of the full coverage Safariland ALS models like the 6390. I also modded some Glock 21 holsters since my Polymer 80 fits them. I think they came out pretty decent. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180915/ece6f890a96ea73c9db00eac6f92ee2f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180915/e41438637fcf0f027bd907e5333f24bb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180915/517c51015fa8b10c4a880bbf8be4ad80.jpg
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bikemike555
09-15-18, 08:13
These are the 6390 for the M&P9 2.0 compact and the Glock 21 holster which fits my Polymer 80. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180915/f16242828d9336b3aecddbeb4092d62c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180915/6c92d827dc5d5b34d01d57c92ed005d5.jpg
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Stranger45
10-01-18, 08:18
Does anyone have any experience with all four of these belts? I would like to know the best/worst features of each belt, like can you attach pouches with TEK-LOK, the Volund is 2” would that be a disadvantage over a 1.75” belt, it also has both horizontal and vertical MOLLE mounting options, is that an advantage?
https://www.raptortactical.com/home/103-raptor-tactical-retainer-belt.html#/5-color-multicam/70-size-l_37_40/76-buckle-cobra_d_mini_25/83-stiffness-3gun
https://www.optactical.com/eainopgunbew.html
http://store.volundgearworks.com/index.php/volund-gearworks/micro-battle-belts/atlas-micro-battle-belt.html
https://www.ronintactics.com/store/p27/SENSHI_Belt.html
Rickenbacker53
10-03-18, 11:20
Does anyone have any experience with all four of these belts? I would like to know the best/worst features of each belt, like can you attach pouches with TEK-LOK, the Volund is 2” would that be a disadvantage over a 1.75” belt, it also has both horizontal and vertical MOLLE mounting options, is that an advantage?
https://www.raptortactical.com/home/103-raptor-tactical-retainer-belt.html#/5-color-multicam/70-size-l_37_40/76-buckle-cobra_d_mini_25/83-stiffness-3gun
https://www.optactical.com/eainopgunbew.html
http://store.volundgearworks.com/index.php/volund-gearworks/micro-battle-belts/atlas-micro-battle-belt.html
https://www.ronintactics.com/store/p27/SENSHI_Belt.html I owned the ronin Belt . Sold it because I ordered it to large. When I re-ordered I went with HTC. For the simple reason that molle on these lower profile belts makes the mag holders sit to far down . So when I would squat they banged into my legs and knees. Other then that the Ronin is super well made : I went with a 2 belt system without Molle and esstac mag carriers with the Belt loops. Tech lock won't work on any of the belts you listed : At least not the smaller one. The larger ones may. I think Ronin has a Video that shows them using Teck'loc . Quality wise I was really happey with the Ronin. But owning the HTC I am happier yet. Plus it's less bulky . I should mention I don't carry alot > 1 rifle and a double Pistol Mag Carrier : Knife and my cell phone.
Here's a system you can order with or without Mollie : Seen good reviews https://bluealphagear.com/collections/range-and-duty-belts/products/double-belt-rig
Stranger45
10-08-18, 13:03
I owned the ronin Belt . Sold it because I ordered it to large. When I re-ordered I went with HTC. For the simple reason that molle on these lower profile belts makes the mag holders sit to far down . So when I would squat they banged into my legs and knees. Other then that the Ronin is super well made : I went with a 2 belt system without Molle and esstac mag carriers with the Belt loops. Tech lock won't work on any of the belts you listed : At least not the smaller one. The larger ones may. I think Ronin has a Video that shows them using Teck'loc . Quality wise I was really happey with the Ronin. But owning the HTC I am happier yet. Plus it's less bulky . I should mention I don't carry alot > 1 rifle and a double Pistol Mag Carrier : Knife and my cell phone.
Here's a system you can order with or without Mollie : Seen good reviews https://bluealphagear.com/collections/range-and-duty-belts/products/double-belt-rig
Thanks for the info. I found a used SENSHI Belt for a good price, going to try it out.
What kind of mag pouches did/do you use?
Rickenbacker53
10-18-18, 08:39
Thanks for the info. I found a used SENSHI Belt for a good price, going to try it out.
What kind of mag pouches did/do you use?sorry for the late reply : I used HSGI with RTI attachments : Way to bulky so switched to Esstac : Much happier
Stranger45
10-20-18, 12:55
Now that I have the belt school me on mag pouches, I am looking at G-Code Scorpion, and Esstac KYWI. Advantages/disadvantages of each. Also best way of mounting.
noonesshowmonkey
10-20-18, 13:26
Now that I have the belt school me on mag pouches, I am looking at G-Code Scorpion, and Esstac KYWI. Advantages/disadvantages of each. Also best way of mounting.
Just look back through this thread, and you'll see a shit load of Tacos & kywis. Tacos have positive retention (a loop that holds the mag into the pouch) while kywis are open top and use molded kydex and friction to hold the mag. I have never had a mag dump out of my open topped kydex, but then again I am not fast roping out of a bird / doing combat jumps / military free fall / falling down a mountain with this shit on.
MOLLE directly to the belt.
Do your own research. It is all right here. If you have specific questions about a specific piece of kit, I am sure someone who has it can step in and advise.
Now that I have the belt school me on mag pouches, I am looking at G-Code Scorpion, and Esstac KYWI. Advantages/disadvantages of each. Also best way of mounting.
I think a lot of it is personal preference. I’ve used Tacos for years and HSGI has just released the LT versions when I was setting up my belt so that is what I chose. Very happy with them. No experience with the Esstac but the Tacos are more versatile, at the expense of sometimes being harder to reinsert a mag. I had one Scorpion but wasn’t a fan, didn’t really have a reason though.
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Stranger45
10-20-18, 14:39
Have my own reason for not using Tacos. Would like to see the Scorpion, and KYWI up close, but nothing around here that I can find.
I like the idea that you don't have to draw the mag straight up with the Scorpion, but am leaning toward the KYWI.
Does anyone know if the KYWI pistol pouch will hold a Leatherman tool?
Now that I have the belt school me on mag pouches, I am looking at G-Code Scorpion, and Esstac KYWI. Advantages/disadvantages of each. Also best way of mounting.
I run Esstac KYWI's for M4 mags and a G-Code Scorpion (softshell version) pistol mag pouch on my belt. I have experimented with several different kinds of carriers/pouches and these are the two I like the best. I don't think you will be disappointed. The KYWI's I run are the short version but they also make mid-length and tall. Although I have never had an issue with the short ones (and I get down & dirty) I might have gone with the mid-lengths but they were not available at the time. With the G-Code Softshell Scorpions I feel like they perfected what HSGI started with the Tacos. My rig below:
https://i.imgur.com/52KMJfQ.jpg?1
Stranger45
10-22-18, 08:33
Thanks, just the info I am looking for.
Why did you go with the Scorpion pistol? Will it hold a Leatherman tool?
bikemike555
11-14-18, 22:04
AWS LAB Belt with Safariland 6390 holster for the G19 with weaponlight. Esstac KYWI pistol and rifle mag pouches, two USGG pouches, a Tactical Tailor dump pouch. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181115/73071c77bea7b052413bb7c8e91e0602.jpg
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bikemike555
11-14-18, 22:06
Knocked out this Safariland holster for the Beretta PX4 Storm. Wrapped in Crye Multicam 330D Cordura. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181115/8023baf5e3c08834d01aaed175afbd51.jpg
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bikemike555
11-24-18, 05:06
Wrapped one for the H&K VP9 with weaponlight. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181124/5bde2f96c7d31a9d0b02d5dbb395e92a.jpg
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bikemike555
12-28-18, 00:18
I think I may have a problem with Safariland holsters and Crye Multicam. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181228/29f05309aac9d051add0ed064e4dd2a6.jpg
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I think I may have a problem with Safariland holsters and Crye Multicam. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181228/29f05309aac9d051add0ed064e4dd2a6.jpg
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Lol, no worries. You're in a judgment free Zone here brother.
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Rickenbacker53
12-30-18, 15:27
I think I may have a problem with Safariland holsters and Crye Multicam. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181228/29f05309aac9d051add0ed064e4dd2a6.jpg
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A problem??? Looks like they are from the same parents : Knowing how expensive The codura option from Safairland is : I'm guessing you have about $10,000 dollars invested : At least $8000
bikemike555
12-31-18, 07:05
A problem??? Looks like they are from the same parents : Knowing how expensive The codura option from Safairland is : I'm guessing you have about $10,000 dollars invested : At least $8000I've been buying clearance / used Safariland holsters and using 3M spray adhesive and Crye Multicam 330D Cordura and wrapping them myself. Only one holster in the photo came wrapped in Multicam from the factory, I did the rest. Most of those holsters / models of pistols aren't currently available from Safariland in Multicam.
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I've been buying clearance / used Safariland holsters and using 3M spray adhesive and Crye Multicam 330D Cordura and wrapping them myself. Only one holster in the photo came wrapped in Multicam from the factory, I did the rest. Most of those holsters / models of pistols aren't currently available from Safariland in Multicam.
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I was wondering about that. I do wish they expanded that option to a lot of other holsters - yours look good, I’m jealous.
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bikemike555
01-03-19, 21:05
Yesterday I took two of these surplus cop holsters, peeled the old basketweave leather off and wrapped them with Crye Multicam cordura. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/1e987c229c4fc6a44efc73b1f40e83ab.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/4ffdad5c605fa928b456394e8548e968.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/591630e0f3e2c05ab6866356335379ef.jpg
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Yesterday I took two of these surplus cop holsters, peeled the old basketweave leather off and wrapped them with Crye Multicam cordura. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/1e987c229c4fc6a44efc73b1f40e83ab.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/4ffdad5c605fa928b456394e8548e968.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/591630e0f3e2c05ab6866356335379ef.jpg
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Damn. I’d pay you to do that for mine.
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bikemike555
01-03-19, 22:51
Damn. I’d pay you to do that for mine.
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I did two S&W M&P9 holsters earlier today. I'll trim them and singe the edges tomorrow. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/fffd9f0e33814eaf6521cc76902ff32b.jpg
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bikemike555
01-04-19, 14:06
Aaaaand done. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/4d75c68d681c726d8334cdfc4a020b80.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/e6a78d7ea29fc8ce1bc2a26228174056.jpg
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Yesterday I took two of these surplus cop holsters, peeled the old basketweave leather off and wrapped them with Crye Multicam cordura. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/1e987c229c4fc6a44efc73b1f40e83ab.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/4ffdad5c605fa928b456394e8548e968.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/591630e0f3e2c05ab6866356335379ef.jpg
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Slick, very slick. Maybe someday you can show us a how to, unless you plan on trying to make some money off your idea, which is totally understandable.
Aaaaand done. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/4d75c68d681c726d8334cdfc4a020b80.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/e6a78d7ea29fc8ce1bc2a26228174056.jpg
Sent from my SM-G960U using TapatalkThis came out nicely.
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Aaaaand done. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/4d75c68d681c726d8334cdfc4a020b80.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190104/e6a78d7ea29fc8ce1bc2a26228174056.jpg
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Slick, very slick. Maybe someday you can show us a how to, unless you plan on trying to make some money off your idea, which is totally understandable.
A bit of a tutorial/instuction would be fantastic! It seems pretty straightforward, but I'd like to hear how you got your results vs the idea I have in my head on how to do it.
Class B setup:
Stuck with gloss until out of FTO and able to wear Class C's. Slowly putting together a belt for that. Also have a Safari on order to replace that junk Blackhawk for the X26P.
https://i.imgur.com/dey1MfW.jpg
Also have a Safari on order to replace that junk Blackhawk for the X26P.
Why? I find the different release mechanism a blessing. If I start to use my thumb I’m getting the wrong tool if I want my taser.
Serpa? Yah, it’s junk. Blackhawk for a taser. Fine by me.
Not saying I’m correct, just something to think about.
Why? I find the different release mechanism a blessing. If I start to use my thumb I’m getting the wrong tool if I want my taser.
Serpa? Yah, it’s junk. Blackhawk for a taser. Fine by me.
Not saying I’m correct, just something to think about.
Very easy to yank out.
The Safariland holster is way better. The blackhawks break all the time and tasers get stuck in them.
The Safariland holster is way better. The blackhawks break all the time and tasers get stuck in them.
I don't like it at all. Another reason I want to replace it is to go non-dominant draw.
Various scenario tests of cross draw versus non-dominant draw show faster transition time in an ambush. One scenario: Respond to a suspicious person. Arrive to a person under the hood of a vehicle. Person gets aggressive after attempt at encounter and then refuses verbal commands at taser point while simultaneously another person rushes from concealment shooting at officer. Officer holsters taser and draws pistol. That compared to dropping taser and drawing pistol, and then non-dominant taser draw and pistol draw. Non-dominant taser took less rounds in reaction.
I'm a Taser instructor.
I carry non-dominant. I took my last instructor re-cert class and did the whole class left handed including reloading. I am a firm believer in it but some officers can't do the ambidextrous thing so I don't require it. I do, however, require the Taser be attached opposite of the gun side. I also purchased a few Blue Tasers and do several non-lethal to lethal transition drills.
I'm a Taser instructor.
I carry non-dominant. I took my last instructor re-cert class and did the whole class left handed including reloading. I am a firm believer in it but some officers can't do the ambidextrous thing so I don't require it. I do, however, require the Taser be attached opposite of the gun side. I also purchased a few Blue Tasers and do several non-lethal to lethal transition drills.
Makes perfect sense having opposite side. Our policy is opposite side at cross draw or non-dominant side/draw. Our transition drills were drop and draw with both hands, with one hand, and with weak arm to simulate injury (standing, kneeling, laying). For taser it just makes sense to non-dominant draw and use; they are easy to operate and I feel some of the manual of arms transfer. All of which I am sure you know.
Practice makes it all easier...
That Surefire is from 1996 and still going strong!
Looks like a lot of crap on my 34 inch waist.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7910/31744160287_cff8dc295f_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Qn87Up)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/Qn87Up) by Cory Fluck (https://www.flickr.com/photos/101418915@N07/), on Flickr
That belt has some stripes and a few war stories.
I wish we had smaller radios like that. We have XTS5000's but sometime this summer they are supposed to be transitioning to a new one with GPS and stuff in them to go with the transition to this Motorola CAD system.
What I am putting together:
Snake Eater duty belt w/ HSGI duty-grip (both on order)
Zero9 double mag case (have)
Zero9 cuff cases (have)
Zero9 OC case (have)
TorchLok flashlight holster (have)
Safariland holster for taser and Glock (need)
Will be using the same PortaClip, baton, and TQ from other belt.
Good deal. Thanks for the responses guys. First time having a taser, took the comments from my TO, taser instructor, etc as gospel. I do want to try left hand draw...
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Not a fan of basketweave leather. Saving for a Volund Gearworks rig.
I recently sold a 3-row MOLLE warbelt in favor of putting together a slimmer, trimmer 1st line that's more practical for my application and significantly less overt. I was originally going to switch over to an inner/outer system like a G-Code Operator or Ronin but decided to stick with the padded style when I found the Wilder minimalist padded sleeve.
https://i.imgur.com/uGLJajx.jpg
I've only been using the new kit for two weeks, but it's very comfortable and stable and have had no issues with sagging, binding or slip so far despite my best efforts. I thought sacrificing almost 2" of vertical drop in my holster was going to be problematic at first, but it has not been an issue at all since I'm not running it under a PC and the drawstroke is practically identical to an IWB at 3 o'clock, which I already carry and train for regularly. Overall the outcome has been better than I expected in both form and function.
Practice makes it all easier...
That Surefire is from 1996 and still going strong!
Looks like a lot of crap on my 34 inch waist.
https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7910/31744160287_cff8dc295f_k.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/Qn87Up)Untitled (https://flic.kr/p/Qn87Up) by Cory Fluck (https://www.flickr.com/photos/101418915@N07/), on Flickr
No OC?
I recently sold a 3-row MOLLE warbelt in favor of putting together a slimmer, trimmer 1st line that's more practical for my application and significantly less overt. I was originally going to switch over to an inner/outer system like a G-Code Operator or Ronin but decided to stick with the padded style when I found the Wilder minimalist padded sleeve.
https://i.imgur.com/uGLJajx.jpg
I've only been using the new kit for two weeks, but it's very comfortable and stable and have had no issues with sagging, binding or slip so far despite my best efforts. I thought sacrificing almost 2" of vertical drop in my holster was going to be problematic at first, but it has not been an issue at all since I'm not running it under a PC and the drawstroke is practically identical to an IWB at 3 o'clock, which I already carry and train for regularly. Overall the outcome has been better than I expected in both form and function.
I am digging it. Same as the HSGI duty-grip I bought. Good to hear it doesn’t slip around as I wanted something for duty use that is easier to don/doff and more comfortable. All while still keeping a more traditional appearance.
I am digging it. Same as the HSGI duty-grip I bought. Good to hear it doesn’t slip around as I wanted something for duty use that is easier to don/doff and more comfortable. All while still keeping a more traditional appearance.
They are very, very similar. I went with the Wilder version because I liked the narrower channel for my thinner belts. I'm only in mine for a few hours at a time, but it just melts on to my hips and I hardly feel it. I'm quite pleased.
No OC?
Strong used to make an awesome OC holster that was also a belt keeper. The problem is that they don't make the small OC can anymore so noting fits in it. So i scrapped OC about 10 years ago.
Strong used to make an awesome OC holster that was also a belt keeper. The problem is that they don't make the small OC can anymore so noting fits in it. So i scrapped OC about 10 years ago.
What OC was it?
What OC was it?
Bodyguard
Bodyguard
Was it one of those small key chain sized one or like MKII or III?
Was it one of those small key chain sized one or like MKII or III?
It was a 2oz MK2.
If I come across the pouch I'll take a picture. I'm sure I still have it in my box of old gear. When they stopped making that size can, I was quite upset. I guess I could have cut the flap off but I didn't.
It was a 2oz MK2.
If I come across the pouch I'll take a picture. I'm sure I still have it in my box of old gear. When they stopped making that size can, I was quite upset. I guess I could have cut the flap off but I didn't.
Ours is the 1.4oz MK2. Almost no one makes small enough pouches for them; the one I have is the smallest and there is still some play. They told us it was MK3, and when I bought an open top pouch for it the can was too loose. I believe Sabre makes a 2oz can, MK3.5 or something.
Now I gotta find that pouch! If I don't sleep all day I'll rummage through the basement. Expecting a lot of snow tonight so that means leaving early for work.
Tonight was crazy, it was the moon or something.
The Chief said we can phase out basketweave so I think I'll start looking for decent belts.
The Chief said we can phase out basketweave so I think I'll start looking for decent belts.
Guys at my PD have started doing that without permission since we moved to land bearing outer vests. I'm running a 5.11 Bravo Sierra belt, currently while I decided if i want another Ares Gear duty belt. My only bitch about the Ares Gear is that it's a 2" belt and all of my stuff is 2.25" and I don't want to have to zip-tie my gear in place.
All HSGI except duty weapon and X26P holsters of course. Single mag pouch holds OC in front of duty weapon. Works great. 7.5 years at the Academy Assit. Range Master, Lead Taser yada, yada, yada. Point is creeping up on 50 yo and 26 yos and this is the most comfortable rig I've ever worn. Granted, a lot of weight on there but I'm a 6' 260lb knuckle dragger with a 38" waist. Lots o "tactical girth".
Oh, and even discounted it's not cheap, but well worth it at my age/wear and tear.
Nice rig Zeus. I went to a HSGI Duty Grip Padded Belt with a 1.75" cobra belt. Best move I ever made. What belt are you using?
Nice rig Zeus. I went to a HSGI Duty Grip Padded Belt with a 1.75" cobra belt. Best move I ever made. What belt are you using?
If I remember correctly, which is pretty hard these days (rig's about two years old) Its HSGI's recommended cobra belt. Has served me well, and like I said, the comfort is off the chain. I come from an era when comfort and "look professional" could not be used in the same sentence. Wonder how many careers would have been saved, longer, or a better enjoyed retirement could have been had if the troop's health were put first. Bet a lot less lower back/sciatic issues...
BrigandTwoFour
01-27-19, 15:53
9 years later, and the VTAC belt keeps going strong. I settled on this configuration last year, seems to work pretty well for me as a training class partner. It's easy to scale up with a chest rig and small backpack as needed.
https://everydaymarksman.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/p1040940.jpg
bikemike555
01-28-19, 09:58
9 years later, and the VTAC belt keeps going strong. I settled on this configuration last year, seems to work pretty well for me as a training class partner. It's easy to scale up with a chest rig and small backpack as needed.
https://everydaymarksman.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/p1040940.jpgI think I saw this pic over on arfcom too. Nice!
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bikemike555
01-28-19, 10:00
I wrapped a few Safariland GLS holsters in Crye Multicam Cordura. I don't think they're as effective against gun grabs, but for active retention and consistent draw they're pretty great. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190128/9caa0562e750244fc1e38fbd076159fb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190128/ab7b8838f73ad20b621858b31d1bd047.jpg
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I wrapped a few Safariland GLS holsters in Crye Multicam Cordura. I don't think they're as effective against gun grabs, but for active retention and consistent draw they're pretty great. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190128/9caa0562e750244fc1e38fbd076159fb.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190128/ab7b8838f73ad20b621858b31d1bd047.jpg
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Nice job on the wrap, looks great.
Start of the C belt (have Safari holsters on order):
http://i.imgur.com/7xhYuYt.jpg
Holsters came in the other day:
http://i.imgur.com/Nx9QvcH.jpg
Endur, you’re going to LOVE that belt pad. I’m never going back! Did you get the HSGI or the Wilder? They look to be exactly the same, I’m curious if the Wilder is just a knockoff.
Endur, you’re going to LOVE that belt pad. I’m never going back! Did you get the HSGI or the Wilder? They look to be exactly the same, I’m curious if the Wilder is just a knockoff.
Mine is HSGI. I believe Wilder makes them in conjunction with HSGI. Similar to Tactical Tailor and Grey Ghost Gear.
The HSGI belt was the start of a whole new fatigue/hot spot free world for me.
The HSGI belt was the start of a whole new fatigue/hot spot free world for me.
Oh yeah, never going back to a regular belt again. Now if I can get my new department to go to outer carriers with storage, I’d be set. Since going back to loaded down belt, my back has been a wreck for the past eight months. The belt pad has helped immensely, but I’d still love to get some more weight off of it.
What belt are you using?
Oh yeah, never going back to a regular belt again. Now if I can get my new department to go to outer carriers with storage, I’d be set. Since going back to loaded down belt, my back has been a wreck for the past eight months. The belt pad has helped immensely, but I’d still love to get some more weight off of it.
What belt are you using?
Belts are HSGI and most everything else... Pics a few posts or pages back
The_War_Wagon
03-24-19, 22:31
After Jay Cunningham urged us at the first PA/OH/WV study group (late '09) to build a battle belt... I finally built one... 9 years later. :eek:
Great thing about being 'tactically-padded' - there's PLENTY of room on the belt!
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc305/The_War_Wagon/New%20build/100_4905-crop_zpsrtq6zqil.jpg
HSGI regular belt (inner) and padded belt (if you don't mind mixing, matching, and oddball colors, you can save a few bucks that way. The forest green belt was a few bucks cheaper than the other colors, and since a padded belt was going over it, I went for the savings!). From left to right - Esstac Quadrunner, stuffed with 4 Wilson 8rd. 1911 mags. HSGI three mag shingle. HSGI single mag TACO, stuffed with an Israeli pressure bandage (I have an ARES 500 IFAK on my chest rig - no room for this bandage in it, so I stuck it on the back of the belt). Gerber mulit-tool (smaller model), L2 PentagonLight :cool: in a HSGI pouch. Code4Concealment kydex holster (SA 5" LW Operator in it), and a CRKT M-16 folder, round out the setup. And everything's attached with HSGI long clips.
Belts are HSGI and most everything else... Pics a few posts or pages back
Zeus, I apologize, I meant to reply to Endur. I saw your rig earlier, looks great! I’m thinking of upgrading to a stiffer belt in my pad, haven’t decided if I was going to keep it 1.75” or move up to 2” and didn’t know how much of a struggle it would be to squeeze one through the loops.
The_War_Wagon
03-25-19, 08:01
Zeus, I apologize, I meant to reply to Endur. I saw your rig earlier, looks great! I’m thinking of upgrading to a stiffer belt in my pad, haven’t decided if I was going to keep it 1.75” or move up to 2” and didn’t know how much of a struggle it would be to squeeze one through the loops.
If it's velcro covered, like my HSGI setup, a good ol' fashioned yardstick, helps get it right through!
The_War_Wagon
03-25-19, 08:01
Zeus, I apologize, I meant to reply to Endur. I saw your rig earlier, looks great! I’m thinking of upgrading to a stiffer belt in my pad, haven’t decided if I was going to keep it 1.75” or move up to 2” and didn’t know how much of a struggle it would be to squeeze one through the loops.
If it's velcro covered, like my HSGI setup, a good ol' fashioned yardstick, helps get it right through!
My inner belt is a Snake Eater 2”. Fit through the pad farely fine. I could see constant inserts and removals causing some wear over time. Other than that good to go. The SE belt isn’t as thick as an Ares which helps; I actually like it better. You’d definitely have some trouble trying to squeeze a 2” Ares through.
Zeus, I apologize, I meant to reply to Endur. I saw your rig earlier, looks great! I’m thinking of upgrading to a stiffer belt in my pad, haven’t decided if I was going to keep it 1.75” or move up to 2” and didn’t know how much of a struggle it would be to squeeze one through the loops.
No worries... if you are trying to stiffen up the outer belt, maybe contact HSGI about acquiring an additional plastic insert?
Blue Alpha hybrid Cobra 1.5" inner belt
Wilder Tactical (http://wildertactical.com?p=SJLg-rFuN) minimalist padded outer belt & MOLLE belt clip adapters
Frank Proctor Performance Gear mag carriers & holster hanger mount
NAR / Rescue-Essentials IFAK/TQ carrier
ESEE 3MIL
Safariland 7TS
Streamlight 1L1AADF
Generic 1.5" aluminum biner
https://i.ibb.co/qDBxK91/IMG-20190319-164952-01.jpg
My inner belt is a Snake Eater 2”. Fit through the pad farely fine. I could see constant inserts and removals causing some wear over time. Other than that good to go. The SE belt isn’t as thick as an Ares which helps; I actually like it better. You’d definitely have some trouble trying to squeeze a 2” Ares through.
No worries... if you are trying to stiffen up the outer belt, maybe contact HSGI about acquiring an additional plastic insert?
My belt is a Shellback Tactical I picked up on the cheap somewhere. The build quality, nylon and cobra buckle are good, it’s just not super stiff. I don’t believe it has a stiffener and there are no extra stitch lines, just the double layer nylon and perimeter stitching. It’s not bad in my rig, I’m just wondering if a stiffer belt would improve anything. What is nice is it’s a little more flexible and broken in.
everready73
03-29-19, 20:35
Blue Alpha hybrid Cobra 1.5" inner belt
Wilder Tactical (http://wildertactical.com?p=SJLg-rFuN) minimalist padded outer belt & MOLLE belt clip adapters
Frank Proctor Performance Gear mag carriers & holster hanger mount
NAR / Rescue-Essentials IFAK/TQ carrier
ESEE 3MIL
Safariland 7TS
Streamlight 1L1AADF
Generic 1.5" aluminum biner
https://i.ibb.co/qDBxK91/IMG-20190319-164952-01.jpg
@outkast
How do you like the Frank Procter holster hanger mount? I just ordered one today just curious if you had any feedback.
Probably going to order a safariland mid ride ubl as well to compare, but the Procter will fit the 1.5'' belt it will be attached to better because they offer that size. It also looks like the design keeps the gun a little further from your body
@outkast
How do you like the Frank Procter holster hanger mount? I just ordered one today just curious if you had any feedback.
Probably going to order a safariland mid ride ubl as well to compare, but the Procter will fit the 1.5'' belt it will be attached to better because they offer that size. It also looks like the design keeps the gun a little further from your body
That's exactly right, the Proctor mount is sized for smaller belts so there's no vertical slip. It sits just a little bit higher than the UBL Mid Ride but pushes the grip a good amount further away from the body. I'm on the fence with whether I like it or not. I'm thinking about modifying the mid ride UBL to work better with my 1.5" belt and sticking with that, or modifying the Proctor hanger to reduce the offset some.
everready73
03-30-19, 16:23
Yeah I have seen people use the 2" ubl mid with zip ties around the belt and through the top slit in it to secure. Prob works ok. I will try that and also a qls or t spacer to offset it a little bit
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Finished my new duty belt.
Grey Ghost Gear belt
G-Code Scorpion tacos
Safariland
Speaking of, belt complete:
http://i.imgur.com/SyvjvDg.jpg
So much more comfortable.
Looks good brother!
We went with molle outer vests so I put my radio, cuffs and TQ on the vest.
Looks good brother!
We went with molle outer vests so I put my radio, cuffs and TQ on the vest.
This setup is unbelievably comfortable. Almost feels like I am not wearing one at all.
This setup is unbelievably comfortable. Almost feels like I am not wearing one at all.
What are the details?
What are the details?
HSGI Duty Grip
Snake Eater 2" Duty Belt
HSGI Duty Pistol Taco (holding OC)
Eleven10 TQ carrier
Safariland 6365 STX w/ G17M & X300U
x2 Zero9 cuff carrier
Zero9 APX6000 carrier
Safariland 6520 w/ X26P
Zero9 dbl pistol carrier
ESP TorchLok w/ Surefire P2X Fury w/ Thyrm Switchback 2.0
Gadsden Dynamics battle-belt.
ATS Tactical triple M4/pistol magazine shingle.
Dark Angel Medical IFAK.
Maxpedition dump pouch.
Comp-tactical holster with pistol.
mechanix gloves.
Might try to squeeze a fixed blade onto it as well.
Satisfied thus far.
58344
Interesting to see so many right handed shooters having AR mags bullets facing forwards. How does that work? Indexing like a pistol mag? :no:
Interesting to see so many right handed shooters having AR mags bullets facing forwards. How does that work? Indexing like a pistol mag? :no:
I tried that for about a year, of r a few reasons. Looking back, I’m surprised I gave it that much time because I was not at all a fan and struggled quite a bit with it.
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Blondes, Brunettes, Boobs or Butts it's all a matter of preference (ok, last two bad example). I will say as an LEO instructor for years that its an easier transition for the many who've never run a rifle. Mostly out of the question and not recommended for those who've professionally carried a rifle for years.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190825/5a2808aee626eeb167040ac1571153d5.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190825/597507ead669219bdc055e1ef27eaa05.jpg New to the forums here and wanted to share my new battle belt set up. Retired law enforcement and USAF veteran, now an armed citizen, this will be used as my home defense and training rig. It contains the following items:
Blue Alpha Gear 1.75 mollie Cobra belt with inner loop belt.
Safariland 6354 DO ALS with DFA drop leg shroud.
Eleven 10 MBOK IFAK.
Esstac KWYI double pistol/single rifle pouch.
T-RexArms dump pouch
T-RexArms tourniquet holder.
Benchmade CBK push blade. (Hidden behind mags)
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I made my first change with my belt in a lot of years, so here goes. Picked up an HSGI tourniquet pouch yesterday at a local shop. Only color options were OD and black. Well, this ain't Nam, and it's not the 90s, so neither color really worked for me. I decided to try my hand at repainting it, and I think it worked out fine.
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I'm not 100% on it's current location, as it's close to being in the way of drawing the pistol, but I'm not sure what to move/remove to be able to mount it elsewhere. One of these days I'll get back out to a class or just go do some shooting on my own at the in-law's range, and see if this works, or if changes need to be made.
I've got a blue force gear, clockwise from the front I have ESSTAC tacos, 2 pistol pouchea, 1 AR15 pouch, blue force gear mini ifak, handcuff pouch and safariland ALS setup for a Glock 19x with inforce compact light and a multitool.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200106/f9ac3babdfe41a1f3b12ae94bb057750.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200106/33dca4876067b877d636a6c712d0231d.jpg
10 years in the Outback and out of focus with new products...bear with me.
LowSpeed_HighDrag
01-07-20, 16:13
Just a simple range setup.
Esstac Duty Belt
Esstac 2x1 Mag Pouch
Safariland 6395 Holster
NAR TQ
https://i.imgur.com/puXzQV2.jpg
Made some adjustments to my call out belt to better handle the Shaolin Sniffles.
https://i.imgur.com/tDi2FeO_d.jpg?maxwidth=1000&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
Shooterman017
03-24-20, 20:27
https://i.imgur.com/sFixwey.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/irwyeUr.jpg
Been rocking spray hand sanitizer (62.5% akahal) and 3 pair of gloves minimum on first line, put mags in for this picture though
daddyusmaximus
03-27-20, 13:51
After years of an old padded Blackhawk, I stepped it up to a modern two piece war belt system with the velcro inner belt. I'm really liking how secure it stays in place. I went with the Blue Alpha. Any number of them would have worked I guess, but I got this one... and it works great.
https://i.imgur.com/odK9LsG.jpg
What’s the best way to get a safariland low or mid ride holster onto a molle padded belt? For. 19/x300. Old school BFG soc-c belt. I keep searching and I’m clueless. Trying to figure out the right holster and molle attachment and if there’s any other pieces I’d need. Clueless.
What’s the best way to get a safariland low or mid ride holster onto a molle padded belt? For. 19/x300. Old school BFG soc-c belt. I keep searching and I’m clueless. Trying to figure out the right holster and molle attachment and if there’s any other pieces I’d need. Clueless.
https://www.lightfighter.net/topic/blue-force-gear-soc-c-padded-belt-system
This may be helpful.
Any other options that aren’t with leg strap (drop leg)
Any other options that aren’t with leg strap (drop leg)
PM inbound.
What’s the best way to get a safariland low or mid ride holster onto a molle padded belt? For. 19/x300. Old school BFG soc-c belt. I keep searching and I’m clueless. Trying to figure out the right holster and molle attachment and if there’s any other pieces I’d need. Clueless.
Which belt do you have exactly? I have the HSGI Slotted Padded belt which has segments that expose the inner belt specifically for attaching things such as holsters. You can see from the photo below how it works with my Safariland UBL. Another option is to modify your belt yourself in order to accomplish the same thing, i.e. carefully cutting away a section of your belt to expose the inner belt.
*EDIT: I see you have the Blue Force Gear Soc-c belt. You may still be able to cut a segment out to expose the inner belt.
https://i.imgur.com/T2Evmsl.jpg?1
I have a BFG SOC-C. Basically sitting in my house unused for years.
ViniVidivici
03-29-20, 02:52
What’s the best way to get a safariland low or mid ride holster onto a molle padded belt? For. 19/x300. Old school BFG soc-c belt. I keep searching and I’m clueless. Trying to figure out the right holster and molle attachment and if there’s any other pieces I’d need. Clueless.
Read that Lightfighter thread, good info, USMC03 is a solid dude, knows his stuff.
I run a BFG SOC C belt with a Safariland 7ts (G17) on a mid ride UBL.
The inner belt goes through the loop on the UBL, under the MOLLE outet section.
Thank you gentlemen! Like with many other holsters, can I buy a G34/x300 holster and have it fit my G19/x300? I ask because I’d like to pick up a G34 in the future.
Yes; if you go Safariland, a G34 ALS holster will fit a G19. The retention point is just forward of the ejection port, so they're pretty versatile.
https://i.imgur.com/sFixwey.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/irwyeUr.jpg
Been rocking spray hand sanitizer (62.5% akahal) and 3 pair of gloves minimum on first line, put mags in for this picture though
Any idea on when BFG will be releasing that belt for sale and will it be available without the handles at the 6 and 11 o'clock?
Hsgi suregrip
Itw fast mags for the AR
Esstec kywi for the pistol mags (just added these)
TAG dump pouch
Home made kydex hoster for the vp9
Was thinking of getting a new one as I have a tlr-1hl for it that I would like to be able to use. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200411/212b3f634240bc12ac7b7d08b91b35a8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200411/84a1a143eee4190a6775d1afbce61e89.jpg
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Shooterman017
04-13-20, 18:46
Any idea on when BFG will be releasing that belt for sale
Working on them as we speak. (Not literally...) But they are coming. Soon.
I ran a class and my thigh rig wasnt cutting it so I got a belt I felt was going to be a great starting point. I haven't ran it yet so I plan on changing it up if needed. Constructive feedback is welcome.
Looks great brians2k, I’m not a fan of drop leg anything but that’s a simple preference. Everything you’ve put together looks good to go! Wish I could find that bfg med pouch in stock.
ViniVidivici
05-05-20, 01:29
That belt looks great, BFG goodness. Looks like everything you need and nothing more. Holster looks like it's hiked up high enough it'll run right.
I finally dumped drop leg holsters after years and put a 7ts on a mid-ride UBL and haven't looked back.
I'm not a fan of having the blowout kit in back, I like it up front about next to where your TQ is, but that's just preferrence.
For my arm length the drop leg works great. Really natural draw for me. I went with bfg cause i can run my 1911 mags in the same pouch and no adjustment necessary
Working on them as we speak. (Not literally...) But they are coming. Soon.
I’m pretty sure that I need that belt.
Shooterman017
05-08-20, 07:04
Wish I could find that bfg med pouch in stock.
Working on this as we speak...also, not quite literally...but soon.
BigTex2000
07-20-20, 12:39
Shooterman, is that an RTI setup for the pistol? If so, what attachment is that?
Shooterman017
07-28-20, 18:49
Shooterman, is that an RTI setup for the pistol? If so, what attachment is that?
Its a G-Code RTI, I think it's a midride of some flavor.
I've switched over for the time being to a Safariland holster direct bolted onto a True North Concepts mount.
New belt set up, had some of these pouches lying around, a few of them are brand spanking new. I just swapped out my Defense Mechanisms dump pouch for a BFG ten speed dump pouch, saved a bit of space, probably not any weight. I recently jumped into the negative cant on my holster and am loving it.
https://i.imgur.com/GC13nEwl.jpg
Blue Alpha Gear belt
Defense Mechanisms pistol and rifle magazine pouches
Blue Force Gear dump pouch
Blue Force Gear micro trauma kit now
True North Concepts holster hanger with a T-rex arms Raptorcock or whatever they call it
New belt set up, had some of these pouches lying around, a few of them are brand spanking new. I just swapped out my Defense Mechanisms dump pouch for a BFG ten speed dump pouch, saved a bit of space, probably not any weight. I recently jumped into the negative cant on my holster and am loving it.
https://i.imgur.com/GC13nEwl.jpg
Blue Alpha Gear belt
Defense Mechanisms pistol and rifle magazine pouches
Blue Force Gear dump pouch
Blue Force Gear micro trauma kit now
True North Concepts holster hanger with a T-rex arms Raptorcock or whatever they call it How do you like the true north concepts belt mount? I was wondering if its uncomfortable when seated in a vehicle. Also i hear part of the concept is to offer rigidity preventing the bottom of the holster from angling outward during draw, does that actually work?
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Sitting with it is no better or worse than if you run a safariland mid or low ubl already. I really like how secure it is on the belt itself since it mounts with two metal strips that screw down clamping the belt. Overall it’s just another holster hanger of sorts made from better materials and with the ability to cant the gun rearward. I’m buying another one tomorrow so I’d say I dig it.
A little bit of an update from a recent low light class, added an Eagle Industries hand warmer as it gets a bit cooler here, tossed some extra chem lights in the front pocket. Still running everything else I have been.
- Blue Alpha Gear belt
- True North Concepts holster adapter
- T-rex Arms Ragnarok holster for M&P with X300U
- BFG Micro Trauma kit now
- BFG TQ hanger
- BFG tenspeed dump pouch
- Defense Mechanisms single rifle mag pouch
- Defense Mechanisms double pistol mag pouch
- Eagle Industries hand warmer
https://i.imgur.com/Y0He6VCl.jpg
battlestage
11-27-20, 18:20
Initial setup complete. I might add a gp pouch of some sort but for now this should work fine.
AWS SMU belt
Safariland holster on a True North Concepts holster adapter
Esstac pouches
Arbor Arms Small Nut Ruck serving as a trauma kit
https://i.imgur.com/YxFMlill.jpg
New belt set up, had some of these pouches lying around, a few of them are brand spanking new. I just swapped out my Defense Mechanisms dump pouch for a BFG ten speed dump pouch, saved a bit of space, probably not any weight. I recently jumped into the negative cant on my holster and am loving it.
https://i.imgur.com/GC13nEwl.jpg
Blue Alpha Gear belt
Defense Mechanisms pistol and rifle magazine pouches
Blue Force Gear dump pouch
Blue Force Gear micro trauma kit now
True North Concepts holster hanger with a T-rex arms Raptorcock or whatever they call it
Ah, I see you have a couple of those Defense Mech pouches I've been debating joining the month or so wait list to try out... :laugh:
So... if you have a second;
- how close are they to BFG ten-speed pouches as far as thickness profile? About the same, slightly plumper, or considerably fatter?
- how well do they stay open when empty and you just laid on one? Do they kind of spring back, or go totally flat like the BFG?
- how big is the "bullet gap" at the bottom of the pouch, since they're not entirely closed-bottom pouches? Pretty tight, or enough for a round sneaking out of a mag to get caught in?
Hello,
I think, maybe, that I finished my gun belt.
Ronin belt
2x HSGI pistol tacos
2x HSGI rifle tacos
Dark Angel Trauma Kit
Tactical Tailor dump pouch
Gloves hanging from a grimlock
Benchmade knife
Safariland UBL with QLS Adapter
ANR Holster for Sig MK25 With x300 and RMR
As always. I will change as I learn. What do you think?
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A little bit of an update from a recent low light class, added an Eagle Industries hand warmer as it gets a bit cooler here, tossed some extra chem lights in the front pocket. Still running everything else I have been.
- Blue Alpha Gear belt
- True North Concepts holster adapter
- T-rex Arms Ragnarok holster for M&P with X300U
- BFG Micro Trauma kit now
- BFG TQ hanger
- BFG tenspeed dump pouch
- Defense Mechanisms single rifle mag pouch
- Defense Mechanisms double pistol mag pouch
- Eagle Industries hand warmer
https://i.imgur.com/Y0He6VCl.jpg
How do you like using those Velcro straps versus malice clips for MOLLE?
How do you like using those Velcro straps versus malice clips for MOLLE?
Not him, and very low on the list of experience.
But I can say I am not buying any more WTFix or malice clips or whatever. I’m also leaning toward offloading my two piece belt with molle, because this method is lighter, thinner, and way the heck cheaper.
LowSpeed_HighDrag
04-25-21, 05:09
https://i.imgur.com/4Wpf1xp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FHL3nhG.jpg
Safariland 6390 wrapped by Spectermods w/RDR TQ Mount
Esstac Belt and Magazine Pouches
Beez Ifak and Dump (not recommended on the dump pouch)
Variant One Ikken
Not pictures is the Wilder Tactical TQ holder mounted to the holster
https://i.imgur.com/4Wpf1xp.jpg
Esstac Belt and Magazine Pouches
How do you like the ESSTAC belt? I’ve looked at that and the AWS as options to go MOLLE-less with one-wrap.
Fatorangecat
04-26-21, 09:51
65654
65654Good Sir,
I know this isn't a pistol thread but could you please tell me more about your setup? Pistol / holster and such?
Thanks!
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Fatorangecat
04-27-21, 06:40
Its a VP9 with a rugged Obsidian 9 and an X300. Absolutely love it. The holster is made by Trex Arms and rides on a G Code ODP. The holster works well it has good retention and a natural draw.
LowSpeed_HighDrag
04-28-21, 03:39
How do you like the ESSTAC belt? I’ve looked at that and the AWS as options to go MOLLE-less with one-wrap.
It's great, rigid enough but not so rigid that an 8-12 hour day will hurt your back. I switched from a Ronin Senshi and I'm very happy.
https://i.imgur.com/4Wpf1xp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/FHL3nhG.jpg
Safariland 6390 wrapped by Spectermods w/RDR TQ Mount
Esstac Belt and Magazine Pouches
Beez Ifak and Dump (not recommended on the dump pouch)
Variant One Ikken
Not pictures is the Wilder Tactical TQ holder mounted to the holster
What type of knife? HFB Subhuman?.....never mind I googled Varient One...
LowSpeed_HighDrag
02-21-22, 16:56
My training/teaching/larping belt setup has changed quite a bit from April of last year, as seen above ^
Esstac Advanced Belt (fantastic belt, rigid and lightweight as it is made from Tegris)
Esstac Pouches
Ferro Mini Dangler (acts as a mini dump pouch, or generally where I carry loose rounds when teaching/training)
951 Tactical Modlite Holster (So far a fantastic light holder)
Safariland 6354 DO, RDR Straight Drop Plate, Wilder Tactical TQ Holder
Plans for future upgrades: VXV Sharpie Dangler, Edgar Sherman Swivlah.
https://i.imgur.com/RsppBu0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/LOR8H9T.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/h4V1t6J.jpg
It mirrors my duty belt pretty closely. Most of my duty gear is on my vest, which allows me to keep my belt pretty light. After 10 years the sciatica was starting to begin, so a light weight belt was a must.
https://i.imgur.com/mfYuoBW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/sEoJ38f.jpg
DefenderAO
10-27-22, 22:35
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constructor
08-01-23, 09:25
If you hate a sagging belt that lets your holster hang at weird angles, especially muzzle toward your leg check out the Lead Devil belts. These belts(Inner-outter combo) are the best I have tried
https://www.leaddevilusa.com/
If you've tried a bunch of belts these are stiffer than the Blue Force gear and half the price.
BrigandTwoFour
08-14-23, 11:58
Updated photos of my current go-to battle belt setup.
- Emdom/MM CM belt, with pad
- Esstac Kywi double pistol mag with gap
- G-Code Scorpion rifle speed reload
- ATS Enfilade roll up dump pouch
- SO Tech Viper A1 Mini IFAK
- Arbor Arms Multi-Function Pouch, typically for a canteen but will work for just about anything
- Dara Level 2 holster on a QD mount with my CZ P07
- [Not pictured] Horizontal TQ mount
My long-standing MOLLE belt got to big for me as my fitness journey continues, so I wanted to rethink what I could. The goal is still maximum flexibility to run any weapon system I have, be it 5.56, 7.62, bolt action, etc. I was tempted to go the popular inner/outer two-piece route, but I had good luck with a 1.75" duty belt and HSGI Duty Grip pad at one point, so I went on the hunt for alternatives. Ended up going retro with the CM Belt. I dig this a lot.
https://everydaymarksman.files.wordpress.com/2023/08/bbn-front.jpeg
https://everydaymarksman.files.wordpress.com/2023/08/bbn-left.jpeg
https://everydaymarksman.files.wordpress.com/2023/08/bbn-back.jpeg
https://everydaymarksman.files.wordpress.com/2023/08/bbn-right.jpeg
My current set up I figured well rounded for civi concerns, courses, etc, vs say dedicated to LEO and such. Belt and pouches are Haley Strategic D3 Belt. I don't have enough experience with battle belts to decide one better than another, went with Haley Strategic as generally well liked gear.
Right left: phone pouch (civi coms, don't judge me bitches!), utility pouch #1/2 (folding knife/multi tool), pistol, (semi pimped out Vp9, Safari Land holster), dump pouch (hard to see in pic), IFAK from T.Rex Arms, AR mag, utility pouch (flash light), 2X pistol mag pouches, anything clip.
https://imgur.com/a/xhbZ457
https://imgur.com/a/xhbZ457
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