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Any word on when dealers will receive new pmags? Seems like almost everyone is out. What is the backlog on these? Thanks magpul.
Iraq Ninja
11-07-08, 17:54
SOG Armory say they have them in stock:
http://www.sogarmory.com/Product.aspx?ProductId=102679&Catid=49&ParentId=49#
They are a verified price gouger:
Bushmaster lowers... $189
Spikes lowers.... $169
DPMS lowers $179
so I won't be supporting them anymore. They made their choice, and I made mine. No hard feelings, but no hard cash for em...
MisterWilson
11-07-08, 18:07
Price gouger my ass. They have a product for which the demand has literally skyrocketed overnight. And you think that they should sell them at the same price out of the goodness of their little hearts? To hell with that noise.
I'm getting really fed up of people's aversion to pure capitalism. For all the folks moaning about the "socialist" takeover, it sure is funning seeing people's reaction to this spike in demand & prices...
There will not be any federal firearm and parts restrictions anytime soon. People are behaving irrationally and we all suffer for it.
I believe in the free markets; however, why pay 29.95 at CTD when you can get them for <$20 at other places? CTD and CDNN have both lost my business.
Price gouger my ass. They have a product for which the demand has literally skyrocketed overnight. And you think that they should sell them at the same price out of the goodness of their little hearts? To hell with that noise.
I'm getting really fed up of people's aversion to pure capitalism. For all the folks moaning about the "socialist" takeover, it sure is funning seeing people's reaction to this spike in demand & prices...
.... because loyal customers will remember once things get back to normal, as they always do......
MisterWilson
11-07-08, 18:37
I believe in the free markets; however, why pay 29.95 at CTD when you can get them for <$20 at other places? CTD and CDNN have both lost my business.
So what you're telling me is that if CTD came out with $12 Glock magazines RIGHT NOW, you wouldn't give them your business? Suuuuuure...
If CTD can continue to sell $1,000 cases of brass .223, then more power to them. There's obviously some rich moron who didn't prepare well enough and it's worth it to them.
Voting with your wallet is fine, but to cry foul over a company being opportunistic is almost communistic. If they can't sell it at that price it'll come down. If not, then we know what Aim Surplus' phone number is...
MisterWilson
11-07-08, 18:41
.... because loyal customers will remember once things get back to normal, as they always do......
So they owe something to their loyal customers??
I swear, on one hand people would complain if they were sold out, on the other hand they'd complain if it was in stock but too expensive for their tastes.
There's just no pleasing some folks.
So what you're telling me is that if CTD came out with $12 Glock magazines RIGHT NOW, you wouldn't give them your business? Suuuuuure...
They won't. In fact, almost everything CTD sells is overpriced (and junk). Soon we will know what the market will bear. I am fine paying the price where AD and AS meet, not any higher.
MisterWilson
11-07-08, 18:46
They won't. In fact, almost everything CTD sells is overpriced (and junk). Soon we will know what the market will bear. I am fine paying the price where AD and AS meet, not any higher.
I know that, and you know that, but that wasn't my question. You said "They've lost my business for good!!" and I call BS.
If they had something priced under what you felt was the fair market value, I'd wager that you would somehow manage to get over your perceived slight and give them your business.
This whole "I'm never shopping there again!" BS attitude is stupid, and frankly reminiscent of the political left.
I'm just waiting for someone to say "There ought to be a law..."
ETA: But you ARE correct, soon we will know what the market will bear, but right now, to SOMEONE out there, S&B .223 is worth $995 a case.
I know that, and you know that, but that wasn't my question. You said "They've lost my business for good!!" and I call BS.
No BS. I will not support any companies that deliberately try to gouge their customers. I will take my business elsewhere. If a business owner repeatedly told you to f*** yourself, would you do business with that individual when his or her prices came back down? I will not. You are more than welcome to.
MisterWilson
11-07-08, 18:58
Good, neither would I...But they're not gouging.
price gouging
noun
pricing above the market price when no alternative retailer is available
do you think they are actually selling any,,, or just asking that price???? i ordered 250 .40 gold dots for 79.95 from ammotogo last sunday, tacked on a 500 rd. case of silver bear for 119$,,,,might of had good timing. i've been buying the "ammo can" specials from scharch's, 1000 primed cases, 1000 fmj bullets for $214, add approx 3 1/2 lbs powder [tac], about $280 per 1000 of high quality ammo.
Price gouger my ass. They have a product for which the demand has literally skyrocketed overnight. And you think that they should sell them at the same price out of the goodness of their little hearts? To hell with that noise.
I'm getting really fed up of people's aversion to pure capitalism. For all the folks moaning about the "socialist" takeover, it sure is funning seeing people's reaction to this spike in demand & prices...
And how did you feel about the gas price gouging after 9/11 ? It was illegal and a LOT of stations got major fines.
Raising prices on stuff they already have in stock? CTD selling PMags at 2x the normal price BEFORE a shortage? Sorry, that's not capitalism, that's rape.
MisterWilson
11-07-08, 19:00
See last post.
I'm just glad I ordered 6 from Bravo 2 weeks ago... $17 (windows) is a site better than $29.95 for non-windows now, IF you can find them. Even though CTD is in driving distance for me, they get $0 more $$ from me. THAT is capitalism.
price gouging
noun
pricing above the market price when no alternative retailer is available
I don't see many alternative retailers. In fact, magpul is out too. I take that back, I see a retailer that has them for 34.95.
Not affiliated w/seller - somebody's willing to pay.....
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=115283643
Fireguy275
11-07-08, 20:14
Not everyone is out. I just bought 10 black non windowed on Tuesday for the cheapest I've ever paid. A little searching on the internet goes far.
If you've waited till just now to stock up you're a little behind the curve.
Not everyone is out. I just bought 10 black non windowed on Tuesday for the cheapest I've ever paid. And how much was that? I know they (non-window) could be had for $13ea two weeks ago.
I just got 4 from Brownells. They were backordered for 3 days. They did say that they have no shortage of there own manufactured mags. Was told there will be NO PRICE INCREASE on the mags due to the current market conditions. Great people to deal with.
Magpul is shipping as fast as they can
Get on the backorder list with firm orders from your favorite dealer. You will get them faster that way instead of trying to find some.
For example I do not charge your credit card until your mags are ready to send.
I am also not raising my prices unless Magpul raises my wholesale cost.
Chad
eguns.com
SwatDawg15
11-08-08, 02:21
Ive said this before... There are 3 major dealers that support this site and have already said they are not going to raise prices. Why not just order from these guys, and then you will get the mags as soon as they do.
They support the site.
We buy from them, so we support them.
The end user, us, get our mags as soon as possible.
Everyone wins.
Just my $0.02 but it seems like it fits.
Fireguy275
11-08-08, 12:52
And how much was that? I know they (non-window) could be had for $13ea two weeks ago.
PM sent
Ive said this before... There are 3 major dealers that support this site and have already said they are not going to raise prices. Why not just order from these guys, and then you will get the mags as soon as they do.
They support the site.
We buy from them, so we support them.
The end user, us, get our mags as soon as possible.
Everyone wins.
Just my $0.02 but it seems like it fits.
Would you mind posting the 3 dealers- I can probably guess, but others reading this will want to know.
Thank you,
Dave
sandpacker21
11-08-08, 14:04
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AwaySooner
11-08-08, 14:09
eguns.com
bravocompanyusa.com
gandrtactical.com
I don't know who has them in stock today, but I literally just received a package this past week (it came on Thursday) with a number of Pmags that I had ordered from GandR Tactical last week. The price I got was around $14 IIRC, and they came right in with no delay and no back orders.
It's not surprising if there's some temporary "hoarding" type buying as an emotional reaction to the election. But I agree with those who expect that Magpul will stay on top of the supply-demand situation, and will quickly catch up. This is just a temporary thing where a short-term surge in demand depleted everyone's stock; they'll be back in supply within probably a few days or at most a few weeks.
I don't think we need to worry about the supply-demand situation: Magpul will keep making them available as long as we're able to buy them. I'm just worried about the stuff that I'm buying becoming banned or illegal, so that I cannot even use it and I'll end up with a bunch of expensive plastic paperweights.
eguns.com
bravocompanyusa.com
gandrtactical.com
http://www.eguns.com/
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/
http://www.gandrtactical.com/
;)
So they owe something to their loyal customers??
I swear, on one hand people would complain if they were sold out, on the other hand they'd complain if it was in stock but too expensive for their tastes.
There's just no pleasing some folks.
Markets work and help prevent shortages. You see this with gas and neccessities after disasters and such where supply routes are disrupted.
But we're not talking about milk or gas here, nor any disruption of supply. In most cases they are not facing any increase in costs; those who have chosen to raise prices are giving us a perfect example of gouging. It's extra pure profit on those between a rock and a hard place.
I in no way think that it should be unlawful, but you also cannot expect us to forget or forgive later.
MisterWilson
11-08-08, 21:23
"Perfect" example of gouging? See sig line below.
These are "wants", not "needs".
Additionally gouging is only a crime during a declared emergency and on specific "necessity" items. Otherwise a company can charge as much for their products or services as they wish.
Sorry, that's not capitalism, that's rape.
I'm with Wilson, even though he's confused "free market" with "capitalism."
Capitalism is about investment. The rapid rise in prices right now is about speculation, not capitalism.
It's a free market. If the price is too high, don't buy.
Anybody seen PMAGs for under $5.00, shipped? I don't really want any, but if the price crashes, then I'll stock up.
Ben
IroquoisSnakePlissken
11-09-08, 09:54
The only local retailer around here that carries PMags, Brigade Quartermasters, sold 200 of them to one individual last week, which cleared them out.
It only takes one dude to ruin the party for everyone.
I have a good feeling I will never be able to acquire another PMag again if people keep flipping the **** out.
Good, neither would I...But they're not gouging.
I agree, it's not gouging, it's just a poor business practice. It just goes to show that some vendors are more interested in making a quick buck than keeping loyal customers. It's short sighted at best, and they may live to regret it when this whole thing dies down or if a ban does come down the pike and they're readjusting their business model from "tactical" to "practical".
Medicine Calf
11-09-08, 12:12
The only local retailer around here that carries PMags, Brigade Quartermasters, sold 200 of them to one individual last week, which cleared them out.
It only takes one dude to ruin the party for everyone.
I have a good feeling I will never be able to acquire another PMag again if people keep flipping the **** out.
That's crazy. People need to calm down.
SwatDawg15
11-09-08, 12:54
Would you mind posting the 3 dealers- I can probably guess, but others reading this will want to know.
Thank you,
Dave
http://www.eguns.com/
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/
http://www.gandrtactical.com/
;)
There they be :D
The only local retailer around here that carries PMags, Brigade Quartermasters, sold 200 of them to one individual last week, which cleared them out.
It only takes one dude to ruin the party for everyone.
I have a good feeling I will never be able to acquire another PMag again if people keep flipping the **** out.
Just get on a backorder list at your favorite dealer. One that does not charge you when you place the order but rather when the order is fulfilled. You will get more PMAGs. Magpul is shipping as fast as possible and dealers will restock but most will sell to their back order list first so get on that list with what you want!
(and for the sake of discussion, most of the orders I am taking are for 10 or less -- very few people want more and the biggest in my MO list is for around 40)
Dr. Quickdraw Mcgraw
11-09-08, 13:56
I don't know who has them in stock today, but I literally just received a package this past week (it came on Thursday) with a number of Pmags that I had ordered from GandR Tactical last week. The price I got was around $14 IIRC, and they came right in with no delay and no back orders.
I ordered 10 OD Green Pmags from grant last week and got an an email on the 5th that they are out of stock and would i like to change to Foilage green. Sucks but what are ya going to do... gotta wait until the OD is back in stock. :(
yea, you do see a lot of "out of stock" signs, but c'mon people... quit being ****in lazy.
i've been buying pmags from various places since before the election and up until yesterday. you just gotta google "pmags in stock" and you'll get a good list of places that have PMAGS IN STOCK... just like that.
DANGER CLOSE
11-09-08, 15:12
2 week backorder on the fde that i just got in and still waiting for the black ones i ordered.
gouging, bad business, whatever you call it. as long as it doesn't exceed the manufacturers retail price then i see no problem with it. some retailers sell anywhere between the retail price and the manufacturers minimum retail price or lower. if the price goes above the msrp, that is when i believe its called any given name above. while some people will buy anything at any price to get what they want. most of us look for the best deals that we can find. finding the best deals also supports the companies that support us. my .02 cents.
2 week backorder on the fde that i just got in and still waiting for the black ones i ordered.
gouging, bad business, whatever you call it. as long as it doesn't exceed the manufacturers retail price then i see no problem with it. some retailers sell anywhere between the retail price and the manufacturers minimum retail price or lower. if the price goes above the msrp, that is when i believe its called any given name above. while some people will buy anything at any price to get what they want. most of us look for the best deals that we can find. finding the best deals also supports the companies that support us. my .02 cents.
there DO seem to be some companies that are definately "gougers"- CTD, for instance (over 100% increase is gouging, free-market or not). but I'm not experiencing the panicked inability to find parts and at decent prices... in fact, I'm finding stripped lowers are still plentiful, and at good prices.. some even listed as "on sale"- anvil arms lowers are one hunna dolla right now, online. seem to be decent lowers.
The only thing I'm stocking up on is pmags, because I'm still finding decent deals on them. But I've resisted the temptation to buy anything else- lowers and ammo- because the GUN SHOW is coming in less than two weeks, and I'll be hot-damned if you can't find better deals at the gun show than online, anyway, as a rule. And by then all the manufacturers who ARE sold out should have a whole new batch of crap ready for market.
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