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decodeddiesel
11-08-08, 18:42
Looking for pics and opinions on this setup. I am looking at getting an E2D with the upgraded LED head in a LaRue mount on the 9:00 rail with the light at 10:30. I would just get an M600 of some type, but I prefer the offset config.

Thanks!

Chooie
11-08-08, 18:55
I would recommend against the E2DL unless you can find an older single stage model. The current production model has both 5/120 lumen modes, and can switch modes unexpectedly when bumped, dropped - or possibly upon recoil. You can get the same optic and LED in the Surefire X300, or you can get the KX2C head (identical to the single level E2DL except no strike bezel) and put it on any 2 cell e-series body (E2e, E2L, E2D, E2DL).

decodeddiesel
11-08-08, 23:38
I was going to use the KX2C head. I should have been more clear in my first post. I am interested in peoples thought about using the LaRue mount in this specific configuration.

flyawaychen
11-09-08, 03:15
I'm not sure if this position is what you were talking about.

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk205/flyawaychen/KISS_10-18.jpg

Failure2Stop
11-09-08, 06:25
While I am a supporter of LaRue products I find the VLTOR Offset Scout mount to provide a superior placement of the light, tighter to the rails and FSB.

I have no opinion on the E2D as a mounted light.

IroquoisSnakePlissken
11-09-08, 10:04
I didn't think VLTOR's offset mount would work with the E2D?

I also didn't know there was a tape switch tailcap for it as well...Anyone know which one will work with the E2D?

Shit fire!

subzero
11-09-08, 11:40
The Vltor offset mount does not work with the smaller body lights. The new VTAC will, with an insert. There's a thread about the new VTAC on here somewhere.

For those of us who want to run a smaller body light, the only rings available now (AFAIK) are the Vltor (NON-offset), Surefire (again, non-offset) and LaRue (offset).

I would echo chooie's warning about a 2 stage light for use as a weaponlight.

I use a LaRue mount for my light in the style shown in the pic above. This is an older pic, but you get the idea.
http://i13.tinypic.com/6l48ozp.jpg
http://i19.tinypic.com/72v0eth.jpg

I would prefer the light to be tucked in a bit more like the VTAC mount (and the Vltor offset) put it.
http://i15.tinypic.com/80ph9iv.jpg
http://i7.tinypic.com/6urcgwk.jpg

But really there's very little actual difference in the light placement between the two. The LaRue gives me the ability (if I wanted to) to swap lights a bit more easily due to attachment via throw lever vice screws. But really the reason I got it was so I could use a small body light in an offset mount. I wanted a light (in weight) light setup with the ergonomics I've come to prefer. But a G2 LED in a VTAC or Vltor offset mount would be close in weight, and certainly much less in cost.

flyawaychen
11-09-08, 14:41
That the picture I post was a E2D with UE07 tail switch cap.
UEXX tail switch cap can be used with all kinds of E2D, L series.

IroquoisSnakePlissken
11-09-08, 15:24
Flyawaychen: Many thanks!

I didn't know a setup like that was possible.

Now I just need to get a head, and decide on a mount.

I'm wanting to get the LT double-stack, for the possible future addition of a laser, but I don't think there are any decent lasers available that will fit in the LT double-stack's diameter. At least to my limited knowledge.

flyawaychen
11-10-08, 00:46
LaRue double stack mount is always my favorate light mount.

you can consider Surefire laser head with body and tail cap assembly.

here are examples of them setup by LaRue:

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk205/flyawaychen/LD.jpg

http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk205/flyawaychen/FUG_Dual.jpg

decodeddiesel
11-13-08, 14:28
OK bear with me here as this percoset is starting to kick in, but I have been sitting here musing about the benefits and drawbacks of both the offset and non-offset (standard mounting herein) methods. I do feel that using a "pistol light" such as the X300 in a 12:00 mounting method is superior in theory, but for my application it is not an option. Also I have read a lot about accidental activation with this method and I feel some bugs still need to be worked out. As far as discussing the advantages of offset vs standard mount a few points come to mind:

First is that an offset mount such as the VTAC or Vltor placed on the 12:00 o'clock rail would place light source closer to the sight axis. This would have the benefit of reducing the effect of shadowing (making the shadowing occur in the bottom of the beam pattern). Also this would allow less of the weapon to be exposed from cover in order to use the light.

Second is this method would allow easier activation of the weapon light from the support hand going "across the top" of the rail during a weak side transition.

Still though, even with these advantages in mind many still use the standard mounting at 3, 6, or 9 O'Clock. In Iraq during both of my tours I ran my M951 at 3 O'Clock without the tape switch. This was back in my "chicken choker" days when I would activate the light with my support hand thumb. It seemed to work well for me at the time, but it was really the only option for me due to sling placement and the physical design of the mount. Now with all of the options available it seems foolish to limit myself to an arcane mounting method.

decodeddiesel
11-13-08, 15:12
Well a little poking around on ebay paid off. I found an original E2D defender (non-led) for $50 buy it now, then I found a KX2C LED replacement for $125, but I used the 25% cash back. :D I am a happy ebay shopper for today! OK now the hard part, figure out a mount...