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Milspec78
04-14-19, 13:52
On Friday I received from Valhalla tactical(excellent transaction!!) a freshly manufactured lmt ebcg.this was for my 14.5” pinned and welded colt.
I was a little Leary to spend that kind of money with all the conflicting reviews going back over 10 years,from multiple forums.i was able to find a few threads saying the production from the last couple years run fine in most 16” and shorter carbines.
I took it out and ran the following ammo through the 14.5” colt m4 barrel yesterday.
Wolf 55gr
Tulammo 75 gr
My 62 gr hornady handloads @ 2,900 fps
M193
M855
Federal 55gr brass

I fired 60 rounds of each,no malfunctions of any kind.bolt locked back with surefeed gi mags,pmags (gen 2&3) and lancer mags.
The only things to report are the 75 grain tulammo had almost no recoil,but ran without flaw and m855 felt like it had the same recoil as it did with the standard colt bcg it replaced.as the sun was setting,I was able to see a slight “flash” out of the corner of my eye,I assume from the additional gasses being vented?
The bolt hand cycled a little tougher than any new bolt I have ever used,but smoothed out nicely after the 4th or 5th magazine.
Machine work on the bolt was beautiful,the bolt itself showed plenty of evidence of being test fired.
The carrier showed no evidence of even being in an upper.machine work was evident on areas that had no contact with any other moving parts,the rest of the machine work was impeccable.
Gas key was of the machined type and chrome lined as well as the bore of the carrier itself.
My take away from my experience so far,was this was an excellent purchase for my 14.5” colt m4 profile barreled carbine.i wouldn’t hesitate to buy another if I had the need.the rest of my guns are mid length and seem to be ported appropriately,so thank god for my bank accounts sake I only had one carbine the could benefit from this excellently executed bcg.
I do feel it slightly lightened the recoil impulse and the carbine did feel smoother in operation.
Hope this helps other members considering what most call a waste of money or claim this bcg to be ammo sensitive.
Ymmv...

ABNAK
04-14-19, 14:39
Good to know. I have two older EBCG's in carbines already and they run fine. I also have two new Gen EBCG's I have not used yet. Good to see it function with Wolf and Tula; not that I shoot that stuff but good to know the EBCG will still work with weaker ammo.

I have a Hodge Defense barrel I'm sending out to get the GB pinned. It is a 14.5" mid-length and gas ported to [reportedly] .074" or .075". I only shoot 5.56 NATO pressure ammo (the exception being 64gr Gold Dots I have stashed) so I was wondering if using one of my new EBCG's in the build would present a problem.

ALCOAR
04-14-19, 15:35
Bought a new E-carrier a month or two back, and it's beautifully crafted. I wish they would put their MWS carrier's finish on them though.

Milspec78
04-14-19, 17:17
I very rarely shoot steel,99% of the time I only buy brass(for reloading purposes).i was really surprised how well the 75gr tulammo shot...
I went ahead and ran some of the 55gr and 75gr in my 18” rifle length gas spr,they ran it also.

556Cliff
04-14-19, 19:00
So LMT is using normal phosphate and chrome gas keys now? Do they still round out the hex slots in the screws?

prepare
04-14-19, 19:39
What were the mixed reviews/concerns over?

Pappabear
04-14-19, 20:54
I’ve never heard anything bad about them. People can easily argue the cost benefit ratio, but never “ are they good”.


PB

sig1473
04-15-19, 00:43
I had a bolt chip on a lug ~2000rds. It took awhile but they replaced it. I have yet to shoot the new one.
Pic of bolt:
56833

Rogue556
04-15-19, 03:42
So LMT is using normal phosphate and chrome gas keys now? Do they still round out the hex slots in the screws?I was surprised about the chrome carrier key as well, considering mine from 2017 is not chrome lined. It's good to see LMT make that change. For what its worth, the 2017 version I have had the correct carrier key screws and were not rounded. I ended up swapping mine for a chromed gas key and Neds Optimized Carrier Key Screws.
I had a bolt chip on a lug ~2000rds. It took awhile but they replaced it. I have yet to shoot the new one.You may be the first person to ever break an enhanced bolt. At least you're the only one that I know of. Did they give you any indication as to why it broke?

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Milspec78
04-15-19, 05:56
Mainly pertaining to the carrier dumping so much gas that the guns run unreliable

Milspec78
04-15-19, 05:57
These are the types of posts that made me have reservations...

sig1473
04-15-19, 06:15
Did they give you any indication as to why it broke?
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Nopers

sig1473
04-15-19, 06:16
These are the types of posts that made me have reservations...

I wouldn't let my experience make you have any concerns. I like all my LMT stuff. Shit breaks and they replaced it.

1168
04-15-19, 06:45
Was there ever an issue with insufficient extractor tension on these bolts? If so, has it been fixed?

TMS951
04-15-19, 08:22
Was there ever an issue with insufficient extractor tension on these bolts? If so, has it been fixed?

I have had failures to extract on two enhanced bolts. It was fixed replacing the extractor and the springs.

The first one was at maybe 5000 rounds, that gun saw a lot of steel case ammo and training classes.

The other was a brand new enhanced bcg in a new centurion barrel. It had consistent failures to extract (case still in the chamber) I replaced the springs and extractor and it has worked since.

The extra extractor and springs is absolutely something you need with one of these bolts. I suggest keeping it in the guns grip or something. They are expensive which adds insult to injury.

Neither removed extractors, including the 5000 round one showed much ware.

Milspec78
04-15-19, 08:35
Do you remember off hand the cost of an extractor and springs?
Thanks

TMS951
04-15-19, 14:17
56.80$ for extractor and springs from operation parts befor shipping.

556Cliff
04-15-19, 14:34
56.80$ for extractor and springs from operation parts befor shipping.

LMT direct seems better.

Milspec78
04-15-19, 15:07
I was being lazy,from lmt,lobster tail extractor and springs are 41.00$

technician
04-15-19, 16:17
What denotes a "latest generation" Enhanced Bolt Carrier? I made a purchase early 2019, and it has a chrome lined gas key.

Milspec78
04-15-19, 17:05
I guess I just meant,I got one that had freshly arrived at Valhalla tactical.

Milspec78
04-15-19, 18:07
56$ with shipping,trying to decide if I really need them?im thinking the parts will be discontinued long before I ever need them?the carbine the bcc is in has only had around 2,500 rounds through it since I bought it in 2017...

ABNAK
04-15-19, 18:48
What denotes a "latest generation" Enhanced Bolt Carrier? I made a purchase early 2019, and it has a chrome lined gas key.

The easiest way to tell is that the bolts don't have the shinier finish that they used to. It is more of a "satin" silver color, like hard chrome.

Lamented
04-17-19, 11:35
For people having extraction issues have you tried using a standard bolt with the e carrier? I plan on running an Enhanced carrier with a standard BCM bolt in a 11.5”. I have had several people tell me they have had no reliable issues with this set up.

Milspec78
04-17-19, 16:53
My extractor in my lmt ebcg does seem like it is easier to “lift” than the one in my spare (new) colt with insert and o ring as it shipped from brownells.
I ended up ordering extra ebcg springs on Monday,just to have.i’m going To put a few hundred handloads through it next weekend,i’ll Post back with results.

Iraqgunz
04-17-19, 18:12
I run standard bolts in all my E-Carriers, with exception of the latest one I scored. I know several others who do the same thing. No issues at all.


For people having extraction issues have you tried using a standard bolt with the e carrier? I plan on running an Enhanced carrier with a standard BCM bolt in a 11.5”. I have had several people tell me they have had no reliable issues with this set up.

ALCOAR
04-17-19, 18:42
I run standard bolts in all my E-Carriers, with exception of the latest one I scored. I know several others who do the same thing. No issues at all.

Yeah this is how I run mine. Hopefully down the line I'll pick up a E bolt to try out, but up til now standard bolts from known suppliers have worked perfectly.