View Full Version : HBO’s Chernobyl (2019)
Watching episode one now and thus far it’s excellent. Admittedly I geek out on anything Chernobyl related so I have high hopes for this docu-series.
Also lol @ everything Soviet socialism related.
Decent collateral info for those interested
http://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/safety-and-security/safety-of-plants/chernobyl-accident.aspx
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FromMyColdDeadHand
05-07-19, 20:42
Wife was actually interested in it.
Is it about how bad and crazy things got, how people got screwed and it was covered up?
I watched. Fascinating.
How much is dramatized, and how much is documentary-ish?
The problem with shows like this is that one watches the show and thinks they know what actually happened.
I watched. Fascinating.
How much is dramatized, and how much is documentary-ish?
The problem with shows like this is that one watches the show and thinks they know what actually happened.
That I’m going to research more on but if nothing else at it’s core it’s man suffering because of hubris which is made all the more amusing thanks to soviet idealism.
Muh act of god, Muh destroyer of worlds, but set in the context of haphazard Russian state bumbling and ego.
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On the same note, one of the better documentaries I have watched on Chernobyl...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjOJlHULsaM&t=4s
A trailer for the HBO series...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9APLXM9Ei8
Yeah... been there done that... literally.
My Dad was supposed to be part one of the military reservists who were pulling security duty for the May Day parade in Kiev. He had to bribe his way out of it. A few months late, as a Captain in the Soviet AF and an engineer he was ordered to report to Chernobyl, bribed his way out again.
Not sure how much I want to relive this. It took me years and a move to the US to feel safe walking on grass. I remember watching kids play in piles of autumn eaves and think "yup, they are gonna die soon" not a normal thought for a 7 or 8 year old.
On the same note, one of the better documentaries I have watched on Chernobyl...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjOJlHULsaM&t=4s
Agreed. Best documentary I have seen thus far.
was going to come here write about this :) sat down to watch it last night so far very good
have read watched a few documentaries on them some with interviews of some of the survivors that were there that was done some time ago so not sure if they are dead now
going to have to watch the link to this other one
intriguing stuff since the mindset is so radically different and the arrogance of the main guy in charge from real interviews and of course the state and party shows how the brainwashing was so deep and wide etc.. and is still going on
for sure a who you are is the soviet way but then the who you are gets you killed or put to hard labor :)
our country its the who gets you there and then you become teflon where nothing ever happens
that youtube link here did not know how much the French denied anything ! but does not surprise me of the French and their idiocy
Yeah... been there done that... literally.
My Dad was supposed to be part one of the military reservists who were pulling security duty for the May Day parade in Kiev. He had to bribe his way out of it. A few months late, as a Captain in the Soviet AF and an engineer he was ordered to report to Chernobyl, bribed his way out again.
Not sure how much I want to relive this. It took me years and a move to the US to feel safe walking on grass. I remember watching kids play in piles of autumn eaves and think "yup, they are gonna die soon" not a normal thought for a 7 or 8 year old.
Agreed. Best documentary I have seen thus far.I remember that. We lived an 8hr/375 mile drive from there.
My parents used to have chickens and a greenhouse. Remember them talking about possibly stopping using both. I was 6-7 at the time. Don't mind watching it though it was so long ago that whole parts l of my life doesn't seem real. Even thinking back every once in a while it feels like I'm remembering a movie I saw a long time ago
I remember that. We lived an 8hr/375 mile drive from there.
My parents used to have chickens and a greenhouse. Remember them talking about possibly stopping using both. I was 6-7 at the time. Don't mind watching it though it was so long ago that whole parts l of my life doesn't seem real. Even thinking back every once in a while it feels like I'm remembering a movie I saw a long time ago
It's just odd to think back at that time. I should have been playing Cowboys and Indians, but instead I was recreating the radiation detectors I would see the soldiers using on the news out of toilet paper tubes. Like what kind of messed up kid does that? lol I am sure I will end up watching the HBO mini series once I read all the reviews. Just don't want to get pissed if it is inaccurate, so I will lay it finish, then take a look.
I don't have HBO so I can't watch it, but let us know if they talk about how many people were affected. They put out so many conflicting numbers that I don't think anyone knows the truth.
I don't have HBO so I can't watch it, but let us know if they talk about how many people were affected. They put out so many conflicting numbers that I don't think anyone knows the truth.
It is already listed on NetFlix, but you will need to wait for it to be released on DVD or streaming first.
I don't have HBO so I can't watch it, but let us know if they talk about how many people were affected. They put out so many conflicting numbers that I don't think anyone knows the truth.
No one will even know the truth. The only numbers they have are those who died as a result of direct exposure on site during and immediately after the accident. That is the number the USSR used to show how "it wasn't that bad"
Most were effected by the release of Iodine-131, Caesium-137 and Strontium-90. Unless they can trace the specific isotope of Iodine to every thyroid cancer patient we will never really know. My cousin was a toddler when it happened and also in Kiev. Several years ago she had to have thyroid surgery. Sure we can say it was because of Chernobyl, but there is no way to prove, at this time if it was Chernobyl or some other environmental factor.
They would have to do the same isotope testing for Caesium in people with soft tissue and digestive track cancers. Leukemia and bone cancer for Strontium. I don't think anyone has the money to examine all of that, even in the limited area where those isotopes were deposited in quantities which increase risk.
sundance435
05-09-19, 15:48
No one will even know the truth. The only numbers they have are those who died as a result of direct exposure on site during and immediately after the accident. That is the number the USSR used to show how "it wasn't that bad"
Most were effected by the release of Iodine-131, Caesium-137 and Strontium-90. Unless they can trace the specific isotope of Iodine to every thyroid cancer patient we will never really know. My cousin was a toddler when it happened and also in Kiev. Several years ago she had to have thyroid surgery. Sure we can say it was because of Chernobyl, but there is no way to prove, at this time if it was Chernobyl or some other environmental factor.
They would have to do the same isotope testing for Caesium in people with soft tissue and digestive track cancers. Leukemia and bone cancer for Strontium. I don't think anyone has the money to examine all of that, even in the limited area where those isotopes were deposited in quantities which increase risk.
It is quite interesting, the after effects. There's still ongoing research into it because no one's quite sure of the long-term effects, due in large part to the fact that no one really has an accurate picture of what and how much fallout was released. Even if you had full access to the USSR's documents on it, you would have to assume that they appreciated the full scale of it at the time for their work to be really meaningful, which I don't think they did because of shear recalcitrance/ignorance.
Anyway, I'm hooked on this mini-series.
Wow, streamed the first episode last night. I can't imagine what the budget for this series. Hooked on this one too.
Just watched a show about Chernobyl exclusion zone. Amazing how wildlife returned and flourished despite the radiation. Many animals have radiation 100x the normal limit and yet perfectly healthy
I would wathc some of the documentaries before watching the series, just to get the facts straight first.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cc-vvhWXL9Q
Just watched a show about Chernobyl exclusion zone. Amazing how wildlife returned and flourished despite the radiation. Many animals have radiation 100x the normal limit and yet perfectly healthy
Because they don't live long enough for it to effect them.
Because they don't live long enough for it to effect them.No these were full grown Moose, Bears, deer, adult mise...etc...
Episode 2 off to a good start.
Also, radiation is terrifying.
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HardToHandle
05-13-19, 20:58
Radiation is scary? Like most of other similar attempts of man to harness nature, there is risk in tickling the dragon.
Have you read the SL-1 reactor meltdown story? That is horrifying. However, the US tragedy led to improving safety standards the world over. Even the supercritical incidents involving the Demon Core of the Manhattan Project meant that lives lost would push safety developments.
The Russians or China will sell the reactors, but well-heeled Middle Eastern countries still want the US’s nuclear safety culture. The tragedy in Chernobyl was the similarity to Three Mile Island in the US. The fact the Ukrainian operators made similar mistakes meant they were playing Russian Roulette by not learning from the mistakes of others.
Radiation is scary? Like most of other similar attempts of man to harness nature, there is risk in tickling the dragon.
Have you read the SL-1 reactor meltdown story? That is horrifying. However, the US tragedy led to improving safety standards the world over. Even the supercritical incidents involving the Demon Core of the Manhattan Project meant that lives lost would push safety developments.
True but in both of those incidents the resounding response is DUH
Like given how SL1 was designed nobody had the foresight to think hey, you know what maybe we shouldn’t design this thing in such away that pulling the MAIN control rod just a little to far will cause the reactor to go critical.
As for the plutonium core in the Manhattan project those incidents read like hubris and really smart people combining. Like here let’s see how close I can get to cheating death and oops, to far.
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No these were full grown Moose, Bears, deer, adult mise...etc...
None of those animals live as long as humans. IIRC, the upper end of life expectancy for moose is 25 years. Consider that the general expected lifespan for a human is 79 years.
MountainRaven
05-14-19, 14:19
None of those animals live as long as humans. IIRC, the upper end of life expectancy for moose is 25 years. Consider that the general expected lifespan for a human is 79 years.
Well, 69.79 years for someone born in Ukraine in 1986.
Well, 69.79 years for someone born in Ukraine in 1986.
What about born in Ukraine in 1982? :lol:
MountainRaven
05-14-19, 19:56
What about born in Ukraine in 1982? :lol:
68.90. :P
68.90. :P
Shit... I'm middle aged. Time to buy a Corvette.
HardToHandle
05-14-19, 22:27
Wow, I just saw the scene where they pick the swimmers to drain the tanks. Intense.
Also speaks to the courage and sacrifice made to save millions of lives.
Favorably impressed with the writing, production and acting. Fitting to tell the story.
Worth the watch, totally.
I just want to see an epilogue with dudes in gas masks shooting mutants with LR-300s
There I said it
There's also an accompanying podcast that goes a little deeper into events and the making of the series.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-chernobyl-podcast/id1459712981
sundance435
05-16-19, 08:41
Wow, I just saw the scene where they pick the swimmers to drain the tanks. Intense.
Also speaks to the courage and sacrifice made to save millions of lives.
Favorably impressed with the writing, production and acting. Fitting to tell the story.
Worth the watch, totally.
I like that aspect of the show - contrasting the inhumanity/stupidity of the regime with individual acts of bravery. The little speech by the Politburo guy to get volunteers really summarizes what I know of the Russian ethos.
No one will even know the truth. The only numbers they have are those who died as a result of direct exposure on site during and immediately after the accident. That is the number the USSR used to show how "it wasn't that bad"
Most were effected by the release of Iodine-131, Caesium-137 and Strontium-90. Unless they can trace the specific isotope of Iodine to every thyroid cancer patient we will never really know. My cousin was a toddler when it happened and also in Kiev. Several years ago she had to have thyroid surgery. Sure we can say it was because of Chernobyl, but there is no way to prove, at this time if it was Chernobyl or some other environmental factor.
They would have to do the same isotope testing for Caesium in people with soft tissue and digestive track cancers. Leukemia and bone cancer for Strontium. I don't think anyone has the money to examine all of that, even in the limited area where those isotopes were deposited in quantities which increase risk.
Alex, do you mind describing what you went through when this happend?
Episode 3 is brutal. I was an NDT level 2 tech in the late 70s and have some idea the effects of radiation poisoning. That episode really put it into perspective. First responders and tech crew passing away horribly. I'm guessing the minors did not fair so well either.
So the scene where the three "divers" had to go into the basement and open the valve in order to drain the water that had accumulated beneath the reactor. In the scene the radiation is so intense that it causes the batteries to fail in their flashlights - according to the Chernobyl Podcast this actually happened. The divers then pull out a dynamo powered flashlight that would stay on as long as they kept squeezing it - according to the podcast, in real life the divers didn't have the dynamo flashlight. In reality they had to feel their way in the dark in order to find the valve and open it. The series creators used the dynamo light so the audience would know what was going on.
sundance435
05-23-19, 16:31
So the scene where the three "divers" had to go into the basement and open the valve in order to drain the water that had accumulated beneath the reactor. In the scene the radiation is so intense that it causes the batteries to fail in their flashlights - according to the Chernobyl Podcast this actually happened. The divers then pull out a dynamo powered flashlight that would stay on as long as they kept squeezing it - according to the podcast, in real life the divers didn't have the dynamo flashlight. In reality they had to feel their way in the dark in order to find the valve and open it. The series creators used the dynamo light so the audience would know what was going on.
I wondered about that. Also, did the podcast mention what the fate was of those 3? I honestly wouldn't think there is a suit we could make that would withstand that kind of immersion in highly radioactive water for any period of time. I was also surprised to learn that Dyatlov survived.
The series has given me a new appreciation for the Russian people - some truly hard MF'ers.
HardToHandle
05-23-19, 20:14
I wondered about that. Also, did the podcast mention what the fate was of those 3? I honestly wouldn't think there is a suit we could make that would withstand that kind of immersion in highly radioactive water for any period of time. I was also surprised to learn that Dyatlov survived.
The series has given me a new appreciation for the Russian people - some truly hard MF'ers.
My understanding is the three plant workers survived the mission of wading through the water. Certainly there was lots of radiation but they had protection from the alpha and beta radiation in suits/respirators. The tunnel they needed to drain was to prevent another steam flashover if the molten core broke through the concrete above them. Consequently, the tunnel likely had some radioactive run off but wasn’t exposed to direct fission materials.
None of that takes away from the bravery. No one knew for sure the circumstances, especially what had been damaged in the explosions. Since the core temperature was “melting” concrete, there was immediate risk of being blown out of the tunnel like gun barrel by steam or massive structural collapse. Those were men who should never pay for another drink.
It is like the bravery of the Fukushima 50 - gambling their own future for thousands of other lives. It is an educated guess on the risk in those situations.
Man... the bit with the dogs is just sh**ty
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MountainRaven
05-27-19, 22:10
Man... the bit with the dogs is just sh**ty
Don't leave your dogs when you evacuate.
At least those dogs got a bullet and got it over quickly. Better than radiation, like the firefighters in the last episode. And better than the dogs that get left behind in other situations; left to starve or drown or end in a number of other horrible, slow deaths.
Don't leave your dogs when you evacuate.
At least those dogs got a bullet and got it over quickly. Better than radiation, like the firefighters in the last episode. And better than the dogs that get left behind in other situations; left to starve or drown or end in a number of other horrible, slow deaths.
they were not allowed to take them and forced to leave them in that case
but I would expect that considering the Russian gov did/does not care about human life why animals
but many folks sadly do treat pets/animals like crap still
I hate that !
they were not allowed to take them and forced to leave them in that case
but I would expect that considering the Russian gov did/does not care about human life why animals
but many folks sadly do treat pets/animals like crap still
I hate that !
I think during the evacuation scene they actually did show a girl having her dog taken from her by a soldier while waiting to board one of the buses.
The dog shooting scene was unpleasant. And when the new recruit found the pups and their mother in that building, were they eating the corpse of an old woman?
I found the obvious light-recoiling blanks and anemic gunshot sound effects from the cull team's 91/30s to briefly interrupt my suspension of disbelief, as with live ammo a 91/30 is not the casual shooting experience it was depicted as onscreen, but that's just a minor gun nerd nitpick.
MountainRaven
05-28-19, 23:27
they were not allowed to take them and forced to leave them in that case
but I would expect that considering the Russian gov did/does not care about human life why animals
but many folks sadly do treat pets/animals like crap still
I hate that !
Nothing we can do about dogs in 1986.
But if you're evacuating in 2019 (or later), there's something you can do.
Nothing we can do about dogs in 1986.
But if you're evacuating in 2019 (or later), there's something you can do.
oh agree for sure and even moving and other things IMHO they are part of the family and should never be abandon etc.. but sadly some think of them as something to make the kids happy or who knows ?
Crazy good show. You gotta know Hollywood is going to add their spin, but we all now it happened and was bad. Sorry some of our guys were actually there, tuff stuff.
PB
Wife and I love it.
Pappa-10yrs. on M4C coming up!
platoonDaddy
05-31-19, 11:39
For those of you who have watched the show, does the story-line remind you of Trump? !! What possible connection could there be? !!!
Rush just announced that stephan king said the show reminds him of Trump, then the creator of the show claims king is correct.
For those of you who have watched the show, does the story-line remind you of Trump? !! What possible connection could there be? !!!
Rush just announced that stephan king said the show reminds him of Trump, then the creator of the show claims king is correct.
Some of the reports from power plant employees provided during the investigation following the Chernobyl incident do actually refer to a still-unidentified individual known only as "Oranzhevvy" (Orange), who was first seen at the plant on the night of the meltdown.....but was also allegedly seen in the aftermath in the olive drab field uniform of a Soviet colonel, commanding interior ministry troops to grab female Pripyat evacuees by their genitalia as they boarded the buses.
The Russian government has tried to suppress this bit of info though. Now does this mean that Donald Trump personally took measures to initiate the meltdown as part of an elaborate false flag sabotage op by his Russian government handlers (perhaps originally meant to ethnically cleanse the Ukrainian and Belarusian populations before it was understood that the effects of the meltdown would have far broader ramifications), and then returned to the scene in order to help sow additional chaos via unsolicited gropings? I'm fairly sure the evidence speaks for itself.
https://youtu.be/UeVIzHEh7a4
platoonDaddy
05-31-19, 19:44
Some of the reports from power plant employees provided during the investigation following the Chernobyl incident do actually refer to a still-unidentified individual known only as "Oranzhevvy" (Orange), who was first seen at the plant on the night of the meltdown.....but was also allegedly seen in the aftermath in the olive drab field uniform of a Soviet colonel, commanding interior ministry troops to grab female Pripyat evacuees by their genitalia as they boarded the buses.
The Russian government has tried to suppress this bit of info though. Now does this mean that Donald Trump personally took measures to initiate the meltdown as part of an elaborate false flag sabotage op by his Russian government handlers (perhaps originally meant to ethnically cleanse the Ukrainian and Belarusian populations before it was understood that the effects of the meltdown would have far broader ramifications), and then returned to the scene in order to help sow additional chaos via unsolicited gropings? I'm fairly sure the evidence speaks for itself.
Love it, I am still LOL. You the word man!
Good in relation to the show
https://youtu.be/FfDa8tR25dk
This is a decent thread about a good show. Do we really need to ruin everything around here by injecting some sort of social or political commentary?
The more I watch this show the more it is apparent that the horror is predicated on hindsight.
Who remembers this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSQWUZ8a2Ho
A great article.
‘Chernobyl’ And Communism
by Rod Dreher
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/chernobyl-and-communism/
"..The heroes here are ordinary people, like the coal miners and Soviet soldiers who come in and risk their lives to do things that cannot be done otherwise. Why do they do it? Because it’s the right thing to do. These are the people that the corrupt system grinds up, and always ground up, but there they are trying to save others from the consequence of the elite’s actions. I suspect that I’m making this sound moralistic and dull, but trust me, it’s anything but in this series. In episode four, there’s a sequence in which a new soldier has to learn from two experienced soldiers, veterans of the Afghan war, how to kill people’s pets without remorse. They have to do this because the pets, which had to be left behind in the evacuation, are too radioactive to be allowed to live. The young man, Pavel, has to harden his conscience, and the older men teach him how to do it, based on their Afghan experience. That, and vodka.
That sequence shows you how the soul-deadening communist system destroys what is human within people. The whole damn show does that. I can’t stop thinking about it. The radiation that poisons everybody and everything is communism."
RioGrandeGreen
06-01-19, 05:59
I was in stationed in Germany at this time and I hardly remember this incident. But being in the E4 mafia, I was only interested in Bier and Frauleins! I do recall an incident where a "accidental discharge" of a 105mm tank round with depleted uranium was sent into the country side. That was a big deal.
It was not my tank crew.
ThirdWatcher
06-02-19, 05:50
I just finished watching the fourth episode... SAD.
Achilles11B
06-02-19, 22:16
It’s a hard show to watch sometimes but it’s beautifully executed and extremely well-made. Seeing how the Almighty State always flavors the decision-making process is as fascinating as it is horrifying.
Kimda naive but I think if the'd swallowed their pride and asked for an American robot they would have gotten it.
MountainRaven
06-02-19, 22:55
Kimda naive but I think if the'd swallowed their pride and asked for an American robot they would have gotten it.
Whether they would have or not, the American machine would not have served any better than the West German one, if the Americans were given the same (wrong) information as the Germans were. Assuming that any such machine even existed at the time - or exists today.
And it wasn't that America wouldn't have helped - it was that Soviet pride demanded that they not ask the Americans.
ETA: Shades of the sinking of the submarine Kursk.
Very powerful final episode
Great series
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sundance435
06-04-19, 14:29
Very powerful final episode
Great series
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Agreed. The whole series should be required watching for any liberal arts major/minor in this country.
Grand58742
06-05-19, 07:50
I just finished watching the fourth episode... SAD.
I almost had to drop out during the dog scene.
I like dogs more than most people.
Grand58742
06-05-19, 07:52
lol
Nothing like the interwebz to prove to the world you're the village idiot.
https://www.rt.com/news/460958-chernobyl-hbo-racial-diversity-actors/
lol
Nothing like the interwebz to prove to the world you're the village idiot.
https://www.rt.com/news/460958-chernobyl-hbo-racial-diversity-actors/Well.......
https://www.rt.com/news/461078-chernobyl-black-liquidator-hbo/
"Criticism of HBO’s Chernobyl for not casting ‘people of color’ may have caused fallout on social media, but it turns out at least one of the Russian liquidators of the 1986 nuclear disaster was in fact black.
British screenwriter Karla Marie Sweet unleashed a flame war over the weekend, objecting to the HBO miniseries not casting more*“people of color.”*One of the main arguments of those who pushed back was that Soviet Ukraine circa 1986 did not look much like modern-day Britain.
That is still technically true, but the curious case of Igor Anatolyevich Khiryak is the exception that proves the rule......."
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sundance435
06-05-19, 11:10
I don't think it's a stretch to assume there were Central Asian and Asiatic people that were part of the labor force in neutralizing and cleaning up Chernobyl, but none of the main characters were (not speaking of the woman scientist who was a composite character). I mean, they at least had an Armenian in Episode 4, albeit one of the guys shooting dogs. Bothered me not in the least, but SJW's gonna virtue signal.
Well.......
https://www.rt.com/news/461078-chernobyl-black-liquidator-hbo/
"Criticism of HBO’s Chernobyl for not casting ‘people of color’ may have caused fallout on social media, but it turns out at least one of the Russian liquidators of the 1986 nuclear disaster was in fact black.
British screenwriter Karla Marie Sweet unleashed a flame war over the weekend, objecting to the HBO miniseries not casting more*“people of color.”*One of the main arguments of those who pushed back was that Soviet Ukraine circa 1986 did not look much like modern-day Britain.
That is still technically true, but the curious case of Igor Anatolyevich Khiryak is the exception that proves the rule......."
so 1 out of 600,000 ?
That’s cool.
When do we get a Germanic looking blond haired blue eyed Black Panther?
Since I’m going to Hell, was Soldat Khiryak one of the first in his team of liquidators to die and did he at any point say the Russian equivalent of “damn, sheeyit, and that’s wack”?
so 1 out of 600,000 ?Probably one out of 10000000000
That’s cool.
When do we get a Germanic looking blond haired blue eyed Black Panther?
Since I’m going to Hell, was Soldat Khiryak one of the first in his team of liquidators to die and did he at any point say the Russian equivalent of “damn, sheeyit, and that’s wack”?Read the article. Still alive and kicking
Read the article. Still alive and kicking
You sure? I found some recent footage of him ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEpC2EqghG4
(I keed I keed, glad he is alive and not glowing too much)
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VERDAMMT! SCHEISSE! DAS IST DRECK!
The Dumb Gun Collector
06-08-19, 11:05
If I was a SJW I would be more concerned that the Soviets managed to give the only black dude in the USSR a job cleaning up nuclear waste.
Getting away from it all in the exclusion zone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acsjzkBulWg
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Oh I loled
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Russian media is so butthurt about HBO Chernobyl mini series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qngjo4GQjMA
Russian media is so butthurt about HBO Chernobyl mini series
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qngjo4GQjMA
shoulda thought of that when they made the reactor yeet itself
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Haaaaaaa
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I've been referring to mediocre things as ".....not great, not terrible." quite a bit lately.
I even had a dream where I was being kept locked in a basement by totalitarian weirdos in a dystopian future, and I made a crack about my accomodations being "not great, not terrible" to one of my captors and he got the reference and had a chuckle about it.
MountainRaven
07-07-19, 20:58
I've been referring to mediocre things as ".....not great, not terrible." quite a bit lately.
I even had a dream where I was being kept locked in a basement by totalitarian weirdos in a dystopian future, and I made a crack about my accomodations being "not great, not terrible" to one of my captors and he got the reference and had a chuckle about it.
Shouldn't the reference be made to things that are actually really, really bad?
Because, you know, it's not 3 Röntgen. It's 15,000. The 3.6 Röntgen figure came from dosimeters that only went to 3.6 Röntgen. And 3.6 Röntgen isn't great, and it isn't terrible. But the actual figure of 15,000 Röntgen - which was causing the readings of 3.6 Röntgen - is really, really bad.
Shouldn't the reference be made to things that are actually really, really bad?
Because, you know, it's not 3 Röntgen. It's 15,000. The 3.6 Röntgen figure came from dosimeters that only went to 3.6 Röntgen. And 3.6 Röntgen isn't great, and it isn't terrible. But the actual figure of 15,000 Röntgen - which was causing the readings of 3.6 Röntgen - is really, really bad.
Probably, but I don't tend to experience anything other than bleak mind-numbing mediocrity in my day to day existence.
If I do ever find myself in a "15,000 roentgen" kind of problem though, I'll definitely use the line to hilariously understated comedic effect.
MountainRaven
07-07-19, 22:55
For anyone interested, with a streaming Netflix subscription, there's a PBS documentary about the Chernobyl New Safe Containment Confinement (the newer, better, not-Soviet sarcophagus): Building Chernobyl's Megatomb.
For anyone interested, with a streaming Netflix subscription, there's a PBS documentary about the Chernobyl New Safe Containment (the newer, better, not-Soviet sarcophagus): Building Chernobyl's Megatomb.
Thanks. I just heard a july 2 fresh air interview by the author of this:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/40538681-midnight-in-chernobyl
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