Which muzzle device?

[NYH1]

I just ordered a Colt 14.5" SOCOM barrel and I'll need a extended muzzle device to pin and weld on the barrel.

I have experience with A2 flash hiders on 16" carbines and 20" rifle. I also have a BCM BCMGUNFIGHTER Compensator Mod 0 (regular length) on my Mk12ish build. I'm not really sure which one I like better. Any thoughts on that?

Here's what I'm looking at BCM-A2X-Extended-A2-Flash-Hider-Suppressor (https://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-A2X-Extended-A2-Flash-Hider-Suppressor-p/bcm-a2x.htm) or BCM BCMGUNFIGHTER Compensator MOD 1 - 5.56 Extended (https://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-GUNFIGHTER-Compensator-MOD-1-5-56-p/bcm-gfc-mod-1-556.htm).

I don't want to $pend more then what a BCM BCMGUNFIGHTER Compensator Mod 1 (extended) will cost.

Thanks, NYH1.

[opngrnd]

Between the two, I voted for the extended A2. On a general use rifle, I don't appreciate the pros of muzzle breaks enough to outweigh the cons of the blast of a muzzle brake such as the Gunfighter compensator.

[26 Inf]

Are you wanting an A2 style?

Keeping this in mind: I don't want to $pend more then what a BCM BCMGUNFIGHTER Compensator Mod 1 (extended) will cost these are about thirty to forty bucks cheaper and are two of the best rated flash hiders out there:

Smith Enterprises Vortex G6A2: https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/muzzle-devices/flash-hiders/ar-15-vortex-g6-a2-flash-eliminator-22-cal-prod54941.aspx

JP Enterprises 556L: https://www.jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPFH-556L

Ddin't know if anything non-birdcage was on your radar.

[markm]

That's a tough one. I like them both. FWIW there's no concussion off the Gunfighter, but it is a little "barkier". I don't mind a little more bark because I surely wouldn't shoot either option without ears on.

After further review... I voted extended A2 because the SOCOM barrel doesn't need any "comp" type help. It's gassed perfectly, and has enough meat to absorb recoil.

[AndyLate]

I have both A2 and BCM Mod 0 devices on 16" guns and prefer the Mod 0 generally speaking - it does reduce muzzle rise and recoil a bit.

The BCM comps erode noticeably, supposedly stopping after they reach a certain point. The A2X really will never show wear, and it's a "permanent" device; maybe that is a consideration for you.

My Mod 0 comps are a little "louder" than my A2, mainly noticeable when I am beside someone else shooting my guns.

If you want to stay with a closed end unit, there is also the YHM Phantom https://yhm.net/phantom-5-56mm-comp-flash-hider-1165.html

I have a non-mount AAC Blackout pin/welded on my LMT 14.5 - https://www.advanced-armament.com/BLACKOUT-Non-Mount-Flash-Hider-556mm_p_449.html
The blackout is nice, little concussion and it's very effective as a FH.

Not that you asked for more options..

Andy

[arptsprt]

I personally like the BCM A2X. I have two on two pinned Colt 14.5 barrels.


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[NYH1]

Between the two, I voted for the extended A2. On a general use rifle, I don't appreciate the pros of muzzle breaks enough to outweigh the cons of the blast of a muzzle brake such as the Gunfighter compensator.



That's a tough one. I like them both. FWIW there's no concussion off the Gunfighter, but it is a little "barkier". I don't mind a little more bark because I surely wouldn't shoot either option without ears on.

After further review... I voted extended A2 because the SOCOM barrel doesn't need any "comp" type help. It's gassed perfectly, and has enough meat to absorb recoil.
Thanks for the replies.

I too haven't noticed any increased concussion with the Gunfighter muzzle device over the regular A2. I will say that my Colt MT6400 (civ. vers. of LE6920) with a non-muzzle device 16" barrel, has more concussion the my 18" barreled rifle using the Gunfighter. I noticed that the other while my son was shooting them one right after the other. You want to talk about muzzle flash....beach ball size flashes without a device.

NYH1.

[NYH1]

Are you wanting an A2 style?

Keeping this in mind: I don't want to $pend more then what a BCM BCMGUNFIGHTER Compensator Mod 1 (extended) will cost these are about thirty to forty bucks cheaper and are two of the best rated flash hiders out there:

Smith Enterprises Vortex G6A2: https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/muzzle-devices/flash-hiders/ar-15-vortex-g6-a2-flash-eliminator-22-cal-prod54941.aspx

JP Enterprises 556L: https://www.jprifles.com/buy.php?item=JPFH-556L

Ddin't know if anything non-birdcage was on your radar.
Thanks.

Yeah, I want to stay with a A2ish looking type device. Plus JP says they can't ship theirs to NY, which is absolutely untrue.

NYH1.

[Biggy]

Like the above poster said, the Yankee hill closed end one is nice.

https://yhm.net/phantom-5-56mm-comp-flash-hider-1165.html

[NYH1]

I have both A2 and BCM Mod 0 devices on 16" guns and prefer the Mod 0 generally speaking - it does reduce muzzle rise and recoil a bit.

The BCM comps erode noticeably, supposedly stopping after they reach a certain point. The A2X really will never show wear, and it's a "permanent" device; maybe that is a consideration for you.

My Mod 0 comps are a little "louder" than my A2, mainly noticeable when I am beside someone else shooting my guns.

If you want to stay with a closed end unit, there is also the YHM Phantom https://yhm.net/phantom-5-56mm-comp-flash-hider-1165.html

I have a non-mount AAC Blackout pin/welded on my LMT 14.5 - https://www.advanced-armament.com/BLACKOUT-Non-Mount-Flash-Hider-556mm_p_449.html
The blackout is nice, not concussion and it's very effective as a FH.

Not that you asked for more options..

Andy
I appreciate the reply and the added options. Kind of leaning towards the A2X.


Thanks, NYH1.

[NYH1]

I personally like the BCM A2X. I have two on two pinned Colt 14.5 barrels.


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Yeah, I'm leaning towards the BCM A2X.


Like the above poster said, the Yankee hill closed end one is nice.

https://yhm.net/phantom-5-56mm-comp-flash-hider-1165.html
The flat end one looks like the A2X.


Thanks for the replies, NYH1.

[NYH1]

Found these two flash hider shootouts-

Part 1 (https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/06/jeremy-s/ar-15-flash-hider-shootout/)

Part 2 (https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/12/jeremy-s/ar-15-flash-hiding-test-2/)

NYH1.

[arptsprt]

I think I’ve seen that one before. Good stuff.

My takeaway is the old A2 actually competes pretty well.


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[26 Inf]

Found these two flash hider shootouts-

Part 1 (https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/06/jeremy-s/ar-15-flash-hider-shootout/)

Part 2 (https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/12/jeremy-s/ar-15-flash-hiding-test-2/)

NYH1.

Yep, that is upon what I based my recommendations. I hadn't copy/pasted part 2 - thanks!

I wish they had run the SilencerCo ASR Flash Hider through the test - aside from A2's on base builds, they are all I run.

ETS: I have a couple KAW Valley Linear Comps and KAK Flash Cans on pistol caliber builds and the such.

[NYH1]

Yep, that is upon what I based my recommendations. I hadn't copy/pasted part 2 - thanks!

I wish they had run the SilencerCo ASR Flash Hider through the test - aside from A2's on base builds, they are all I run.

ETS: I have a couple KAW Valley Linear Comps and KAK Flash Cans on pistol caliber builds and the such.
Cool, I really appreciate that!

I guess I should have mentioned this in my initial post. My goal is to keep the barrel and MD combination as close to "just over 16 inches" as I can. I noticed some of them are up to and over 3 inches.

Thanks, NYH1.

[1168]

YHM has what you need at a reasonable price. A2X would be my second choice.

[18bravo]

26 Inf has it right if you are looking for the best flash suppressor (plenty of videos available testing flash hider efficiency). I am using the Smith Enterprise Vortex on my Colt MARC 901 (OEM) and pinned on my Colt 6944 (14.5") so I can still mount a bayonet (old school).
57604
The real question is if you want to attach a suppressor - that will narrow your choices considerably. If you do, and SureFire is you choice, then consider the SureFire Warcomp - they have both open and closed tine models.

[AndyLate]

I meant to mention on my earlier post - BRT's Covert Comp (linear compensator) is 1.95" long, looks like an A2 FH without the slots, provides some flash supression, and IME reduces blast and concussion for the shooter and also from the side.

I had one on a 20" and then 18" barrel which I just installed on a 11.3" pistol I plan to shoot today.

Just a thought.

Andy

[arptsprt]

That was my goal too.

The A2X puts that bad boy right at 16.1 and is only about 1/4” longer than a standard A2.


Cool, I really appreciate that!

I guess I should have mentioned this in my initial post. My goal is to keep the barrel and MD combination as close to "just over 16 inches" as I can. I noticed some of them are up to and over 3 inches.

Thanks, NYH1.




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[MWAG19919]

I’ve shot my BCM with mod 0 GF comp indoors and it didn’t seem too concussive to me, but I overheard a guy in the lane next to me ask his buddy what the hell I was shooting. So maybe it’s a bit “barky” but it’s not my problem.

It definitely doesn’t kick up much dust when shooting rollover prone etc.

[NYH1]

That was my goal too.

The A2X puts that bad boy right at 16.1 and is only about 1/4” longer than a standard A2.






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Yeah, I'm gonna order the BCM A2X.

Thanks for all the replies.

NYH1.

[turnburglar]

I think the A2X is actually a really solid choice in muzzle device. The regular A2 outperforms alot of aftermarket devices. However I have actually used a BCM comp mod 0 that came with my BCM upper years ago when they where doing a sale. I love it. It's not blasty like a regular comp, and the rifle IS softer shooting than an A2. I cant say if it's better at flash reduction than an A2, but its not blasty, and does calm things down.

If I was gonna live with a muzzle device because of a pin and weld, then I would spend the extra cash on the Mod 1.

[CPM]

26 Inf has it right if you are looking for the best flash suppressor (plenty of videos available testing flash hider efficiency). I am using the Smith Enterprise Vortex on my Colt MARC 901 (OEM) and pinned on my Colt 6944 (14.5") so I can still mount a bayonet (old school).
57604
The real question is if you want to attach a suppressor - that will narrow your choices considerably. If you do, and SureFire is you choice, then consider the SureFire Warcomp - they have both open and closed tine models.

Not in NY.

Move.

[ViniVidivici]

I'd say standard A2 cage. All you need, and nothing more.

[NYH1]

I'd say standard A2 cage. All you need, and nothing more.
The standard A2 won't make the barrel long enough.

I ordered the BCM A2X. Thanks for all the input, appreciate it.

NYH1.

[sdacbob]

I had the BCM Gunfighter comp on a 10.5'' AR pistol and every round resulted in a fireball, the AAC Blackout (non-mount) FH cured that. I also have the extended A2X pinned and welded on a 14.5 and it looks and performs very well.