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Doc Safari
06-17-19, 14:14
https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2019/06/17/donald-trump-revives-no-welfare-rule-green-cards-process/


President Donald Trump is shaking up the nation’s green card process by warning legal immigrants and citizens not to recklessly “sponsor” foreigners who cannot pay their way in the United States.
The warning reflects the White House’s emphasis on curbing the award of green cards and citizenship to unskilled and poor migrants who will burden Americans by consuming more government aid and welfare than they produce in taxes.

Under prior presidents, including Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush, migrants in the United States have been allowed to freely apply for green cards via the “Adjustment of Status” process.

This “AoS” process is a continuous, unrecognized amnesty because it gives green cards to roughly 550,000 people each year, including many illegals and people who overstay their legal visas. Illegals also use the AoS process to get temporary work permits. In 2018, for example, 257,376 work permits were handed out to a variety of people who applied for AoS.

One of the few curbs on the AoS amnesty is a requirement that applicants find a sponsor who will repay the taxpayers for any aid and welfare consumed by the AoS applicant. This curb, however, is unused because officials rarely require the sponsors to repay taxpayers when the would-be immigrants do not earn enough wages to stay off welfare.

But officials will now enforce the sponsorship rule, says Ken Cuccinelli, the new head of the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services. On June 14, he issued a warning statement on Twitter (emphasis added):

On May 23, 2019, the President issued a Presidential Memorandum on Enforcing the Legal Responsibilities of Sponsors of Aliens.



Officers will now be required to remind individuals at their adjustment of status interviews of their sponsors’ responsibilities under existing law and regulations. Our officers must remind applicants and sponsors that the Affidavit of Support is a legal and enforceable contract between the sponsor and the federal government. The sponsor must be willing and able to financially support the intending immigrant as outlined by law and regulations (see INA 213A and 8 CFR 213a). If the sponsored immigrant receives any federal means-tested public benefits, the sponsor will be expected to reimburse the benefits-granting agency for every dollar of benefits received by the immigrant.

Over the next several months, federal agencies will develop and implement guidance on the presidential memorandum to make sure that agencies enforce these requirements.

The policy may deter immigrants and citizens from sponsoring unskilled migrants, thus reducing the scale and cost of low-skilled immigration that is imposed on Americans, said Jessica Vaughan, policy director at the Center for Immigration Studies. “A normal person will think twice and say ‘Whoa, I don’t think I want to take on that [financial sponsorship] responsibility,'” she said.

“This is a really good change. … It is about making people qualify [for green cards] based on their likelihood of being self-supporting, and [about] not approving people who will go to the nearest welfare office,” she told Breitbart New Tonight on June 14.

My take: It's about damn time. This somewhat makes up for the disaster of the migrant crisis on the border, but not enough.

Dienekes
06-17-19, 14:46
Well, the Greatest Generation could. Which tells me better than anything else that our recent glorious leaders should have been tarred and feathered long ago. The phrase "Alter or Abolish" comes to mind.

https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/how-eisenhower-dealt-with-americas-first-illegal-crisis

Doc Safari
06-17-19, 14:49
The stuff that dreams are made of. I just started a thread where Trump is going to start enforcing the "No welfare" rule for green cards.

Maybe we should send him this article and give him more ideas?

SteyrAUG
06-17-19, 15:32
Well, the Greatest Generation could. Which tells me better than anything else that our recent glorious leaders should have been tarred and feathered long ago. The phrase "Alter or Abolish" comes to mind.

https://thefederalistpapers.org/us/how-eisenhower-dealt-with-americas-first-illegal-crisis

Eisenhower enjoyed popular support from the people and Congress on this issue. Not to excuse anyone in Congress or otherwise in office, but in the last several decades propaganda has successfully presented illegals as victims who are being targeted due to race or ethnicity.

Firefly
06-17-19, 15:55
They can all starve and die

Dr. Bullseye
06-17-19, 16:00
They can all starve and die

They can all starve and eat each other.

Dr. Bullseye
06-17-19, 16:03
What is needed is exactly the same tactics, seal the border and begin comprehensive deportations. Operation Wetback 2

docsherm
06-17-19, 16:10
This will totally send the left over the edge...... :jester:

Doc Safari
06-17-19, 16:12
This will totally send the left over the edge...... :jester:

Probably within 24 hours some liberal activist judge will find a contorted reason block it, but we can hope Trump has done his homework and it will be implemented.

Rifleman_04
06-17-19, 16:55
This is the right wing equivalent of the gun show loop-hole. This article is as bad, poorly researched and same style as anti gun drivel.

MountainRaven
06-17-19, 17:01
This is the right wing equivalent of the gun show loop-hole. This article is as bad, poorly researched and same style as anti gun drivel.

Are you seriously suggesting that people are people and prone to the same stupid political masturbation just on different issues?

Because if you are, you're right. Not that it will stop the political masturbators from ignoring or slandering you, but hey.

Doc Safari
06-17-19, 17:10
This is the right wing equivalent of the gun show loop-hole. This article is as bad, poorly researched and same style as anti gun drivel.

You seem to have some knowledge. What specifically is wrong with it? Is it quoting the law incorrectly? I'd like to know.

chadbag
06-17-19, 17:17
Probably within 24 hours some liberal activist judge will find a contorted reason block it, but we can hope Trump has done his homework and it will be implemented.

The good thing is, is that it is already the law / regulation, and this is just an emphasis that it will be enforced. Not something new that Pres. Trump is trying to do through executive decree or anything like that.

flenna
06-17-19, 17:30
Now if we can keep the millions of illegal immigrants off welfare that will really be something.

Rifleman_04
06-17-19, 17:49
Very extensive knowledge. My wife is an immigrant and I've been through the process. An Adjustment of Status isn't just allowed because someone said so or a previous administration was trying to flood the country with new Americans. It is normal and necessary for the process of obtaining a lawful permanent residency (i.e. green card) if you are eligible.

flenna
06-17-19, 17:54
Eisenhower enjoyed popular support from the people and Congress on this issue. Not to excuse anyone in Congress or otherwise in office, but in the last several decades propaganda has successfully presented illegals as victims who are being targeted due to race or ethnicity.

This can be used to sum up most of the problems in our country today. The Leftists who have infiltrated our government, press and educational systems have successfully convinced 50% of Americans that the socialist/communist nanny state is really what is needed to fix all our ailments.

Honu
06-17-19, 18:05
when my wife got her green card we were told no way can we apply for any kinda welfare on top of it they did not like what I did for a living and said without a regular paycheck they wont approve and will flag her if I did not get a REAL JOB as they called it ? even though I show I earned quite a good living with my own business and had savings and so on
then having to hire a immigration lawyer etc..

they were the worst people in the world to deal with

I keep saying would be good to get all folks who did it legal to go and sue the gov for giving away so much to those that broke the law and demand restitution for doing it legal :) hahahahahaha would be funny and something the left would do

Dienekes
06-17-19, 18:09
That “public charge” was one of the many possible deportation charges when I was cramming to pass the law course in the Academy way back when. Even then it was never enforced. As my old mentor told me: “There is the law; then court decisions; then administrative law. After that, policy; followed by discretion.”

The wonder is that anyone is ever deported for anything.

SteyrAUG
06-17-19, 18:20
They can all starve and eat each other.

They will be in your kitchen long before that ever happens. Criminals don't rob other criminals, they go to the nice neighborhoods.

Rifleman_04
06-17-19, 18:24
They will be in your kitchen long before that ever happens. Criminals don't rob other criminals, they go to the nice neighborhoods.

So now legal immigrants that obtained an Adjustment of Status and are lawful permanent residents are criminals?

titsonritz
06-17-19, 19:01
Throw in piss tests and we'll be getting somewhere.

Diamondback
06-17-19, 19:48
This can be used to sum up most of the problems in our country today. The Leftists who have infiltrated our government, press and educational systems have successfully convinced 50% of Americans that the socialist/communist nanny state is really what is needed to fix all our ailments.

Largely because of huge amounts of financial and propaganda sponsorship from the Soviet KGB in the '50s and '60s. If you look into the Venona Intercepts and the Mitrokhin Archive, it's truly scary how pervasive the Communist influence within both the bureaucracy and academia really was then, and it has only gotten deeper with their ideological children and grandchildren.

This country owes Senator McCarthy an apology... #StrikeABlowForTailGunnerJoe

Uni-Vibe
06-23-19, 21:07
Now . . . if we had a no welfare rule for farmers, oil companies, and Wall Street banks . . .

Uni-Vibe
06-23-19, 22:17
Throw in piss tests and we'll be getting somewhere.

I would agree, but only if we also mandate drug tests for execs and board members of corporations and banks that receive welfare in the form of bailouts, contracts, subsidies, etc.

Betcha a lot of those fat cats would test positive! Then we'd be getting somewhere.