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I own a vehicle that I wish to share with another person who struggles with alcoholism. This person cannot be trusted to drive soberly. I know some will simply say that I should not share my vehicle. I get that. That's what I'm currently doing, but it's not working out very well for my current situation.
I am interested in voluntarily installing an ignition interlock device, or IID (I should say having the device installed by a professional) in my car. What kind of cost would I be looking at (vehicle is an 06 RAV4), and does anyone have a recommendation for the Chicagoland area?
everready73
06-20-19, 20:29
No recommendations and not sure what cost would be if just purchasing one
My brother got 2 DUIs years ago (sober now) and had to get an ignition interlock system for 6 months or so to restore his driving privileges really.
Cost was sound $180 a month and he basically "rented" it for the time he had it
I would suggest googling ignition interlock and your area to find places that install them. There where several options in our area and it isn't a big city. You could also probably call a probation office and ask them who does it
Alcolock might be an option to buy one from but I just looked at their website and they said leasing is cheaper (not sure if accurate
We have a big DUI problem in New Mexico, and I have heard the interlock system costs around $1300 installed.
eightmillimeter
06-20-19, 22:49
This person cannot be trusted to drive soberly.
I won’t insult your post and just simply say not to do this so here is an answer you don’t want that may help you one way or another.
The quote above says everything you need to know.
You are asking for advice on what is the equivalent of giving Adam Lanza the keys to the gun safe. Interlock or not, if people want to drive, sooner or later they just defeat the interlock, it’s not difficult. Knowingly giving an alcoholic a dangerous weapon could easily find you on the wrong side of a civil action.
I won’t ask details of your situation but obviously your friend needs to get from a to b and not doing so is negatively affecting your life in some way... okay.
1. Sell the vehicle outright
2. Public transportation
3. Treatment
An interlock will not protect you or the car the way you think it will.
I reconstruct fatal crashes involving drunk drivers for a living and put them in prison.
The prices stated so far have all been accurate.
Good luck to you and your friend.
No disrespect, but get him a bus pass. The problem today is that when we help our friends/family, they frequently choose to ignore the lesson and don't make big changes necessary to improve their situation.
Averageman
06-21-19, 08:32
I won’t insult your post and just simply say not to do this so here is an answer you don’t want that may help you one way or another.
The quote above says everything you need to know.
You are asking for advice on what is the equivalent of giving Adam Lanza the keys to the gun safe. Interlock or not, if people want to drive, sooner or later they just defeat the interlock, it’s not difficult. Knowingly giving an alcoholic a dangerous weapon could easily find you on the wrong side of a civil action.
I won’t ask details of your situation but obviously your friend needs to get from a to b and not doing so is negatively affecting your life in some way... okay.
1. Sell the vehicle outright
2. Public transportation
3. Treatment
An interlock will not protect you or the car the way you think it will.
I reconstruct fatal crashes involving drunk drivers for a living and put them in prison.
The prices stated so far have all been accurate.
Good luck to you and your friend.
I read the OP's post and then scrolled down to find this which I believe is 100% correct.
I wouldn't touch this issue with a ten foot pole.
sundance435
06-21-19, 09:25
I own a vehicle that I wish to share with another person who struggles with alcoholism. This person cannot be trusted to drive soberly. I know some will simply say that I should not share my vehicle. I get that. That's what I'm currently doing, but it's not working out very well for my current situation.
I am interested in voluntarily installing an ignition interlock device, or IID (I should say having the device installed by a professional) in my car. What kind of cost would I be looking at (vehicle is an 06 RAV4), and does anyone have a recommendation for the Chicagoland area?
I respect what you're trying to do, but in my experience, interlock devices are a hinderance to the person and nothing more. There are plenty of workarounds for them if they want. You're not being honest with yourself if you think it will make a difference.
Whiskey_Bravo
06-21-19, 10:37
I won’t insult your post and just simply say not to do this so here is an answer you don’t want that may help you one way or another.
The quote above says everything you need to know.
You are asking for advice on what is the equivalent of giving Adam Lanza the keys to the gun safe. Interlock or not, if people want to drive, sooner or later they just defeat the interlock, it’s not difficult. Knowingly giving an alcoholic a dangerous weapon could easily find you on the wrong side of a civil action.
I won’t ask details of your situation but obviously your friend needs to get from a to b and not doing so is negatively affecting your life in some way... okay.
1. Sell the vehicle outright
2. Public transportation
3. Treatment
An interlock will not protect you or the car the way you think it will.
I reconstruct fatal crashes involving drunk drivers for a living and put them in prison.
The prices stated so far have all been accurate.
Good luck to you and your friend.
Difficult or not, please listen to the above. You are not helping things by allowing your friend with a serious problem to drive your car.
Without knowing more about the OP's situation it's difficult to offer advice. I'll be the first example. I have a couple or three drinks every night. I don't drink before 5pm and get up every morning at 5:30 without an alarm clock. I don't go anywhere where alcohol may be served except by taxi/uber yet my mother and youngest brother label me a hopeless drunk! Is there a such a thing as a responsible alcoholic?? Not when it comes to loaning him a car.
Would insurance be tough to get and/or expensive in a case like this? Just curious.
I own a vehicle that I wish to share with another person who struggles with alcoholism. This person cannot be trusted to drive soberly. I know some will simply say that I should not share my vehicle. I get that. That's what I'm currently doing, but it's not working out very well for my current situation.
I am interested in voluntarily installing an ignition interlock device, or IID (I should say having the device installed by a professional) in my car. What kind of cost would I be looking at (vehicle is an 06 RAV4), and does anyone have a recommendation for the Chicagoland area?
So they just get somebody else to blow in the breathalyzer. If you can't trust them, you can't trust them.
I won’t insult your post and just simply say not to do this so here is an answer you don’t want that may help you one way or another.
The quote above says everything you need to know.
You are asking for advice on what is the equivalent of giving Adam Lanza the keys to the gun safe. Interlock or not, if people want to drive, sooner or later they just defeat the interlock, it’s not difficult. Knowingly giving an alcoholic a dangerous weapon could easily find you on the wrong side of a civil action.
I won’t ask details of your situation but obviously your friend needs to get from a to b and not doing so is negatively affecting your life in some way... okay.
1. Sell the vehicle outright
2. Public transportation
3. Treatment
An interlock will not protect you or the car the way you think it will.
I reconstruct fatal crashes involving drunk drivers for a living and put them in prison.
The prices stated so far have all been accurate.
Good luck to you and your friend.
Great advice. I have a family member who was hit by a DD and spent almost 6 months in a hospital and 2 in rehab. Had to sell his business and retire early. The driver circumvented the interlock. Another friend had a child killed getting off a school bus in front of her home. Get this person help, the last thing they need to do is drive.
As someone who has had an alcoholic in the family - DO NOT let this person drive.
john
LowSpeed_HighDrag
06-23-19, 11:47
I have arrested many drunks driving with interlock systems, just FYI.
I have arrested many drunks driving with interlock systems, just FYI.
I was once driving home from work and saw what I thought was a guy getting a hummer driving down the street. Girl sat up, erratic driving continued, I'm on the phone to 911. By the time the dispatcher got through her rigamarole the guy was turned into his driveway.
I parked in the street, got out and approached, asking 'are you okay sir?' He was obviously impaired, his wife thanked me, told me he was okay, just got too much sun at the lake, and told him to come inside. Unit hadn't got there yet, so I didn't detain (I had retired a year earlier). Apparent what I saw was the wife blowing into the interlock so it wouldn't register as a violation.
A lot of folks don't know that once the car is started, the operator still has to give periodic samples. If the guy is over, the interlock doesn't shut the car down, that would be unsafe in traffic, it just registers the violation.
In this case, I'm sure the wife thought hubby was okay to drive - probably easy to do if your used to someone that runs at .10 all the time. It is also easy for an officer to miss the cues of an alcoholic who maintains a constant buzz, versus a fall-downer.
OP - Don't enable this person. They don't need to drive.
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